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Anonymous15:
For your information, Clarke and every other missionaries from 1850 knew of the ijoh Languages and it's numerous DIALECT.
Like I mentioned Sigismund Koelle on his Polyglotta Africana'
Clarke too had finished adding the ijo Languages too.
Samuel crowther had compiled documents on the Bonny DIALECT.
(You yourself mistakenly posted it)
Listen man, to be honest, I am tired of going back and forth.
Quit using obsolete,weeded materials.
Any information you're bringing up from the first or second expedition is mega wrong.
I am even currently reading Daniel Ogiriki (physical copy) who wrote his book in the 1890s primarily on Nembe(but with the other coastal towns too)
Which I snapped and showed you.
Stop decieving yourself. The Bonny DIALECT is different from Igbo.
Even your OKOLOMA(interpretation) gave you up.
If you take this stuff to a court, you'll be thrown out because for over 100 or 200 years, historians and linguists have worked on this. So you coming here to claim a town you can't even interpret the name is absurd.
Go to bed buddy.

What are you blabbing up and down..

I or we the Igbos were the very first to drop these names and upload evidence from them on the previous threads and this and way before.

Stop dropping names as if you know half of what is inside the contents., You sound dumb bro.

Did I not upload polyglotta Africana which showed Bonny as Igbo?
Did I not upload John Clarke that uploaded Bonny as Igbo

Weren't these all part of the evidence we uploaded?

Only for you to come here 100 days later to name-drop the same documents we have been uploaded and you have been refuting.

See mehn, we operate on different intellectual planes... Your booting is slow.

Alabo7978:
Like I always say, and maintain, and you know this to be true
You lots use information that are obsolete and were collected from the first expedition down the niger.
Oga drop me the name of the book and the year this information was COLLECTED.
Stop bringing information from the first expedition because only Igbo DIALECT was collected, and by then the IBO bible has been compiled.
Shebi you said that is Clarke work?
Tell me the name of the book, and the year it was compiled.

I have dropped that reference, I have referenced him more than 100 times... I even uploaded the front cover and posted the links where I generated free access.
Again, like our ancestors over you, I will do my thing on my own terms. You do not tell me what to do.
Clarke wrote only one language collection on African languages except for Fernando Po.

GetMeRight:
Or, Poco Lee already tarnished his own image. He's a cheat

The music industry is deeper than the finished presentation you see on the surface. For that guy to be there, different moves were made, different teams behind the scenes. Poco actually shared the money 200 dollars amongst all the guys who were working behind him coming out with no pay at all. They invested heavy, free time and money for what you see.
However, because they aren't too quick to start breaking things done for you, you might believe it is just by talent alone.

Anonymous15:
That was because during the first expedition down the Niger, only IBO wordings were taken.
They were 1,2,4,5,6 expeditions which revealed other DIALECTs too.

And let me know if that work is Clarke's.

What is the name of the book you're claiming belongs to John Clarke, and
What year was that work compiled?

Stop switching accounts up and down. When you mentioned Clarke, I thought you actually knew what you were saying.

So, you were just name-dropping?

Alabo7978:
God save my soul.
So in all those snapped Excerpt, is it that you couldn't read through a few lines or what?
So John Clarke is the ignorant historian or is it Daniel Ogiriki ockiya?
Or is it Sigismund Koelle?
Or is it Samuel crowther that is ignorant?

Ok if you don't believe the historians, can't you see the subsequent Excerpt collected by linguist??
Don't you know what a linguist is
So Gerrit Dimmendaal
Kay Williamson
Flench
And the other linguists that also said the same thing are ignorant too??
My Goodness God.
People are something else.
No one from the coastal towns need to even waste their energy to clear y'all up there, but most times it's necessary because when I was younger I use to think everyone further up in Nigeria was Hausa until I found out there are several other tribes or ethnic nations like Fulani, KANURI, Nok etc.

Brother man go back and CAREFULLY LOOK, e no go kill you.

Having a conversation with you people is almost like talking to someone with some form of mental defect. This is aggravated further when you desperately grasp at straws.

Now, if we go by John Clarke right, Did John Clarke not classify Bonny being Igbo.. I will furnish you with John Clarke now.

As for Kay Williamson, Williamson we go for linguistic science and not history. Did Kay Williamson tell you that what is in Union Bible (Igbo) the Bonny part is the Ijaw language? let's know when "bia eba" became ijaw.


Is it this same John Clarke you are talking about? Let me upload some of his text in his book.

Anonymous15:
The first bolded statement of yours will be answered by the screenshot of Dr Köler a German doctor who worked at Bonny, and John Clarke a British missionary for the CMS while looking for a way to preach to the coastal inhabitants in 1848.(look closely, don't dissapoint me with your jaundice, it's quite early).

The second bolded on you claiming ijo is being forced on Bonny, will also be addressed by the third and fourth screenshot by a book written by the first ordained priest in the brass region in the 1890's Reverend Daniel ockiya on the ijoid Languages (in the brass region) and even further explained by J.D Garrick.


No one is forcing an ijoid dialect on Bonny,
It has been spoken since time immemorial, as even stated by pepple himself.

My question, is, where was Ijaw mentioned in all of these? I cannot still find Ijo.


Mind you, the subsequent ones are not admissible here. You know we have igno historians who also wrote about Bonny even as early as history but deliberately omitted them so we won't be as if we are biased.

Follow the rules and criteria we all agreed to use.

Putindbutt:
Going by logic from the screenshot, if ibos in Enugu had no king, therefore, ibos in Bonny also had no king. Since ibos are one nation anywhere they are.

To put the unnecessary back & forth to bed, the Amayanabo is a royal title which is totally strange to the ibo culture. But very much cultural to the ijaws.

Low IQ Bonobo. Do not derail the thread, it is making it more obvious that you are dummb. It is also helping Igbos anyway.

Baikie (1854)

[quote author=9Pluto post=108673593][/quote]This is from James Horton right? I have read this before.

This writer, doctor and researcher exchanged letters with People when they were both alive.

Putindbutt:
Last i checked, Obie is not an ibo name.

Yeah...and Ijo is not Ijaw, Dumbdumb.

Putindbutt:
It was Eke who brought up Aro in a bid to twist the fact that ibos never had Kings until oyinbo came. Your ancestors never had Kings not in Bonny or anywhere else in the interior.
The ruiling house in Bonny, their titles & names all belongs to ijaws.

One thing you will take from all these. Igbos are always and will always be more intelligent than you. Know this and know peace. If Aro is no longer Ibo, what of king Obie?

Putindbutt:
1. what was the scepticism about the record?.. why cut it out?

2. When did ibos start having Kings. Ibos never had Kings in pre colonial times, it was the whites who gave your ancestors a semblance of kingship through warrant chiefs. The closest was Eze Nri who was a Chief Priest a.k.a chief herbalist.
so, how would you believe that your ancestors who never had Kings in the interior/ hinterlands but had a ruining house somewhere in Bonny along the coast?
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The first ibo slaves that was made a king by his Ijaw Masters was Jaja, other than that No ibo generation was ever a king until Colonial masters converted warrant chiefs into kings.

When we say you people have low IQs now.... una go say we insult you.

what of the king of Aro?

What of Prince Tschukuma who was even drawn by Baikie? .
What of King Obie who was extensively talked about by Schön, Baikie, Laird and Oldfield?
All Igbo towns didn't have uniform system of rulership. Some ran a democratic system while some had a monarchical system.

However, the ijaws are a different case.
Here, how did IJaws that didn't have a king, "In all their district" now developed a king in Bonny?

9Pluto:
Keep deceiving yourself and your co-drunkards with tales by moonlight authored by Alagoa.

Your criminal ancestors thought they had succeeded when they destroyed the King's Palace and other artefacts during the Nigerian civil war. In their typical ignorance, they forgot that there are century old records beyond their criminal reach.

Yes, they did destroyed evidence not knowing that books stored away in European libraries can still be reached.

They thought Alagoa's fraud will erase everything.

See here, destroying records during the war.

Anonymous15:
My IQ is low because I detected you choking and lieng on trying to tell me what okoloma means.
First screenshot was you in November 22(in the Nembe aiteo spill thread) disregarding the curlew as not a meaning of OKOLOMA but a handsome young man. look at your words carefully in the first screenshot "which stupid curlew"

Second screenshot was you at 10:44pm November 19th telling us curlew is an old English word Corrupted to oculo

Third screenshot was you still on the same November 19th but later at 11:14pm saying it's an old french word flyaway/runaway.
Only you English word and old french word.
Putindbutt ditaridesciple2 robbstark dubailandlord4 captain8 look at this clown.

Thicksharon123
Ezecanada
BKAYY

What will you say of your choking comrade?

Why have you chosen to be dumb.

Did you ask me to translate, "Curlew fly away" or not

Simple question...

What I wrote previously was a well documented version of the name.

I personally did and never believe that the curlew version is true. However, since you are constantly harrassing me to SPECIFICALLY interpret, "Curlew fly away" and I did.

How does this erase my first convinction exactly?

You really have a low IQ.

Putindbutt:
You're so dumb to see Cambridge classified his book under African Journals. You're even dumber than i thought.

Duuumbooo!
It was the "shorter notices" that was published under African Journals.

The shorter notices ended up warning the general public against Alagoa's fraud.

which universe publishes a "book" under "Journals"?

Anonymous15:
Fool.
You were asked to tell what "curlew fly away" in IBO, you said it's okoloma (fine bird fly away)
Whereas in the other side you said (fine young man)

Shame no dey your body like this o
Only you have to meaning of one word.
One in November 22 the other in December 19

So which of them do you Want to kee you first?

"Fine bird fly away"
Or
"Handsome young man" in ndoki land

Your IQ is really really low.
You asked me to translate, "Curlew fly away" more than 10 times

You were mentioning me all over the place to translate "Curew fly away"

That was exactly what I did.

So, why are you acting like a drunk bonobo.
See another place you were harrassing me to spell Curlew fly away. No be you be this?

You were shouting down my ear here self... derailing and messing up the whole thread.

I know you guys are not clever... This is not an ogogoro contest.

Alabo7978:
Ekealterego bkayy Liebermantic
Come and see your clown.
Mkpuru'mmiri drugs is too bad.

In the Nembe aiteo spill thread he had another meaning for okoluma.
JANK23H robbstark dubailandlord4
Would you imagine this fool.

Aren't you the one harrassing me for the past 3 hours telling me to tell you the meaning of "Curlew fly away".

Or are you running the memory of an ant.

I offered you the translation based on that. So why are you running mad all over the place.
You asked me to interpret a specific word and I did.

Alabo7978:
Ekealterego bkayy Liebermantic
Come and see your clown.
Mkpuru'mmiri drugs is too bad.

In the Nembe aiteo spill thread he had another meaning for okoluma

Yes, and I stand by my theory. That is what I personally believe and I stood by it.

However, you have been spamming my mentions to talk about, "Curlew fly away" like 30 places. in one hour.

You asked me to interpret, "Curlew fly away". YOU ASKED ME

So based on that theory, I researched and gave you the answer.

My own is, stop derailing this thread.

Alabo7978:
Ekealterego this is you
JANK23H robbstark dubailandlord4
Come and see this chameleon caught at both sides.

What is caught here. I remember this 100%. I called it to your attention first that we have had the argument.

If you see clearly, I mentioned that if we interpreted it in that sense... that is what it could mean.

On the other hand, I believe Okoloma, means Fine young man.


I remember you told us Okoloma is, "Okolo ama". That was what we were arguing about.

Your theory is also not correct.

Stop derailing the thread. Open another thread to discuss this issue.

BKayy:
Damn. This is something they must answer for after Nigeria.

They see Bonny people as war booty

You know Horton wrote about Bonny in his book in the chapter, "Empire of the Egboes"

I didn't even know Horton exchanged letters with people. The way he wrote about Bonny confidently and comparing them with pepple of Elugu (Enugu)... I was like, this knowledge is deeper O..

Not knowing that even Pepple furnished him with letters and they were pen friend.

Here is an excerpt showing that Igbos in the hinterland supported Bonny with money to execute a war.

The records were with Horton.

Anonymous15:
See confusion."curlew means flyaway/runaway" and someone actually liked that stupidity.

So all this while we have been begging you people to translate "curlew fly away"
And have been refusing since page 11 till 12 because you were craftly inventing a lie, but you came up with that poo up there.
"Curlew means flyaway/runaway"
This fool must think we are children here..
"Okoloma in this sense means fine bird fly away"

But I thought you people say OKOLOMA to mean young handsome man
Alabo, JANK23H robbstark dubailandlord4
Look at these chameleos.

Open another thread and stop derailing our thread please.

Here we are exposing Alagoa fraud.

Liebermantic:
Okulo is a corruption of the word Curlew..Ijaw has no history with Bonny..So, doing the Biafra civil war,they tried burning every recorded history and books about Bonny?
Ijaws are really criminals

Yes
A Bonny native told me his grandfather told him this. I did not take it seriously.
However, you can see a woman who was trying to collect all the original records noticed and was told that many Igbo records were attempted to be wiped away.

Alabo7978:
You must think we are nursery School children typing that stupid lie.
If you want to lie, lie intelligently.

I said you should translate "curlew fly away" to IBO, and you are here telling me french and mixture of IBO.
JANK23H robbstark dubailandlord4 look at this over grown fool.

Do you think we are kids here?
Oga simply translate "curlew fly away" in IBO
The Bonny people say "okuloma" (meaning curlew fly away)

What does the IBO translate "curlew fly away" to and you're here telling me french and ibo.
Shameless fool.
If you want to lie, try and lie intelligently, not this nursery School lies.
Christ!

Goodnight abeg.

Don't commit suicide like your ijaw ancestors though.

Here is what is still written.

living proof!

BKayy:
Your answer from Pepple's mouth. He is the Igbo translation representative here.

Now tell us one single relationship Bonny have with you pirates.

Rapu onye nkwu anwa

He wants to derail the thread.

See, Alagao called out for his fraud.

This woman called out Alagoa here again.

Alabo7978:
Ekealterego and bkayy aren't you ibos anymore?
Simply interpret "curlew fly away"

Bkayy aren't you the person who sent this to me saying this is the last time you'll send anything.

Simply interpret "curlew fly away" to IBO
Make we sleep.

Okay, I will help you. Now that you accepted that they are Igbo.

Curlew means Fly away/Run away.

Curlew is an old French word which means fly messenger.

Okoloma in this sense, will mean "fine bird fly away". which is a mixture of Igbo and the French derivative of Curlew.

Now, tell me where Ijaw is written in all these things?

we have mentioned Igbos and connected them to Bonny. Give us Ijaw let's see.
Give us one single evidence.

Anonymous15:
This is your Excerpt...
Nigga all this thing will end if you simply translate "curlew fly away" in IBO.
The Bonny say "okuloma"

Please I beg you in the name of the Lord thy God mazi nnamdi kanu to please translate "curlew fly away" in IBO.
I have been begging for the past 1 hour
Ekealterego has failed, please don't fail.

This is your except.

Stop being fraudulent. Paste the full excerpt.

At this point, you do not care about truth.

Anonymous15:
LET IT BE KNOWN THIS DAY THAT THIS DRUG CIRCUS HAS REFUSED TO ANSWER SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WILL EXPOSE THEM.

THIS EXCERPT BKAYY DROPPED HERE, WHICH STATES THE BONNY PEOPLE TRANSLATES "CURLEW FLY AWAY TO OKULOMA"

EKEALTEREGO AND BKAYY AND THE REST OF THE CIRCUS HAS BEEN AVOIDING AND MEANDERING AS SEEN FROM THE EXCHANGE.
You all have also failed to tell us why Bonny people use the Wari system and answer AMAYANABO and call their chiefs Alabo instead of ichie.


Just look at how a grown man like Ekealterego was fumbling down the page.
Shame! There's no difference between you and lai Mohammed.

So, this is the full excerpt of the book. In the paragraph, so you can't see Bonny was written as Igbo people? Are you a fraud? See this fraud o.

Anonymous15:
Jesus Christ!
Don't frickin go with anything...
Just look at pure broad day light avoidance.
The ibani people say "okuloma; meaning curlew fly away"
Bkayy provided the Excerpt.

Now tell me how you say "curlew fly away"
There was no corruption of anything. IT IS A DIALECT!
Curlew is still found in the English dictionary, no one corrupted anything!
Fucking tell me what "curlew fly away" in IBO!!!

We see here that Curlew is okulo or Culo . which is how Bonnz was written in the past. I can give zou the meaning... But i want zou to solve it

What does Oma mean in Ijaw? How does it translate? Where do Ijo pirates who who were infesting the water and defecating in them. What is their business here?

Translate Oma in Izon.

Anonymous15:
Nigha you never ever ever ever translated "curlew fly away"
Translate "okuloma-curlew fly away in your dialect.


All this long talk because you can't.
Mind you, I hear igbo very well, so achoro' ke'gwam otuo'unu na e'kwu "curlew fly away" na-asusu'ibo.

okay, let's go with that.

Curlew is an English word and corrupted to Oculo or culo (as written in history book)

Is curlew an Ijo word? What does Ijaw even come in ? I do not understand.

Anonymous15:
Bkayy you're avoiding the question, answer!

Translate curlew fly away!
Ibani-ijaw say okuloma
What does the ibos say

Crafty clown!!

You have been parading this same question for 2 months now. You have been answered 100 times by every single person.

I hope you do not have some other problems.

What does Ijaw got to do with anything here?

Eastlink:
Hi bro wats up.

Here is another Alagoa's fraud exposed.

People saw this pattern of Alagoa rewriting Bonny`s history.
This is Heagreaves who collected extensive letter and original records of Bonny.

She also recorded that the king in Bonny exchanged letters with Horton who also recorded Bonnians as Igbos.

She also mentioned that many records from the Pepple`s (who are the core Igbo royals) were destroyed during the Biafra wars

What was their motivation, wiping out those records?

The records even showed that Bonny got money from their Igbo brothers to execute a war.

CC:
Igboid
Bkayy
Slayerforever
Vintagepipes

Eastlink:
Hi bro wats up.

Good Nwanne. Kedu kwanu?

Putindbutt:
Pls, God gave you a brain for a use, if you cannot use it, then i'm sorry, I can't help you.

Google " the chronicle of Bonny by Alagoa". The results would give you lists of libraries where his book is available for sale.
Aside, Cambridge, the book is also available on worldcat, National library of Australia collection, Africa books Collective, Amazon,etc.whereby there is no such review.

The review of LATHAM was a personal opinion which does not affect the general acceptability of the book on several national & international libraries.
I'm beginning to doubt your literacy level. You talk like a school drop out.

University of Ibadan Press was the publishing company, therefore, its name has to appear on the book. There's no book anywhere in the world that is not published by a publishing company and every book carries the name of its publisher.

There has been no review on other platforms, if you want to review his book, go and register as a member like LATHAM did, so you can give your own opinion just as LATHAM did.

I'm taking my time to explain this much because i realized a lot of you are so dumb.

You are really not intelligent.

Anyone can write a book.50 Cent can write a book today and it will be hosted in the best libraries in the world, but the scholarly properties is a different matter.

Alagoa could or will not make that book into a scholarly journal for instance because as you can see it does not meet minimum requirements. I mean, he did not even reference properly nor make reference to original documents.
Even scholars who sight him make notes down to clarify that that is his own version of history and not the actual truth.

He cannot and never made the book into a journal, which is usually the dream of most scholars who write a thesis.