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Thoh:
read it well and see how the Jo men sold iboe negros

I know you people were never known for your intellect.

Bkayy, Slayer forever, Igboid, Idenna, 9pluto.

Please, I have seen Ijohs distributing this paper around claiming it as an evidence of them being slavers at Bonny.

Just to correct that impression, Jo & Ja Wedderburn are not in any way Ijaw men or anything.

This is rather a company owned by Jo (John) and Ja (James) Wedderburn & Co.

There are numerous evidence of their transactions in history books.

This is an evidence here.

Thoh:
read it well and see how the Jo men sold iboe negros

That's no Jo or Ja men illiterate.

That's a well known European/American brothers who owned slave ships and slave companies
Jo and Ja Wedderburn & Co.

Go school Una no go go.

Thoh:
I don't want to show this in public but you force me to do it.

Come to facebook and see it well not this bias Nairaland.

Jo and JA Waderburn are well known company and brothers of European/American slavers? What's your point?


Here is the description again, comparing the relationship between Igbos and Ijos.

While we were producing, you were busy doing piracy work and worshiping Aros so that your race won't go extinct.

Thoh:
I don't want to show this in public but you force me to do it.

Come to facebook and see it well not this bias Nairaland.

Guy, everyone know that every ethnic group in the south, from Ijaw to Igbos, to Ibibios were victims of the dreaded slave trade... so what's your point.

Here is a book written in 1823 comparing Igbos and Ijos.

You were clearly stated as the inferior race in 1823.

I personally hate to do this...

BKayy:
Ignorance that you don't know when your people joined the Ijaw train?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obolo_people

The joke is on you

Nwanne, hapu ndi apari a.

I understand what is happening.

Do you know IYC is even fuelling the fight?... When you read, you will see what is happening.

Just like they tried in Abia state and failed. They will first try to isolate you and make you fight within yourself and they will come issuing communiques and press statements to show "support" while fuelling and sponsoring fights.

Ilaumoh:
Can you carefully read the attached from Wikipedia and realize is only Andoni and Ndoni the were referring to as ijaw, and that Ibeno and eastern obolo n oron share similarities with obolo but not ijaw

Guy, it is now obvious that you are ignorant. Well, we know that you people do not know... you are busy fighting each other to even know that Ijaw expansionism exist.

Captain8:
obori nama.

If not for Aro Igbo people, you people would be extinct today.
Even by 1900, you were still licking Aro people's ass, hitting your head on the floor with your two hands stretched all to the floor worshipping Aro people for saving you from extinction.

Thoh:
he should go to his village and asked just 5 elders.

Why does he need to ask his elders about who he is?

Have you asked your Ijoh elders about your recent migration from Sierra-leone?

Thoh:
go asked 3 to 5 elders in ibeno and come back and apologize for been ignorant...

You are kind of person who has never stepped feet on ibeno soil since childhood.
I know your type. Travel to your village to know things but you won't agree... Now see your life

Ijoh landgrabbers... How can their elders claim Ijoh? Ibeno people have been existing in that same space before Ijoh people came with their canoes.

Ibeno language is an Ibibiod language.

9Pluto:
Take a another look at those pictures you posted, did you notice the ijos had no King?

Meanwhile, King Pepple was already a King in Bonny at this time.

Your hawk eye yet works it's magic.

Thoh:
IYC was declared at kaiama for the continuation of the Adaka Boro struggle....

Obolos are part of the Adaka Boro struggle...

You mean IYC the political party. Anyone can join and leave. Abua/Odual people sent you guys to court to remove their name the other day.

Obolo are an extension of Ibibio people.

One needs only 100 hungry people to join IYC.

SirBlack999:
Nwanne, biko kee afa akwụkwọ?

Nwanne, le aha ya:

Daryll Forde & G.I. Jones (1950) "The Ibo and Ibibio-speaking Peoples of South-eastern Nigeria".

Thoh:
akwa Ibom Ijaws are part of Adaka Boro struggle

There is nothing like Akwa-Ibom Ijoh... Adaka Boro only fought in Bayelsa with the Ijoh minorities and did not involve any other people.

Ijoh got only 4 LGAs in Bayelsa, how did they extend and fly to Akwa-Ibom?

Yenagoa, Bayelsa state capital is not even ijoh land to start with, now imagine Obolo people who speak an Ibibio language.

Alabo7978:
They were all autonomous (calabari, Bonny, brass, kula, bille, etc) that was why Europeans addressed them by their names and not covering them up as ijo, but they all know that they descended from ijo.

Stop confusing others who know no history.
Here are accounts from same book describing Ijoh people.

The book differentiated Ejo from Wakrike people.

See the last account, Ijos were spoken of as a well separate people.

Thoh:
I don't know what you are saying, Obolos are Ijaws, that's what I know

How and when did Obolo become Ijaw?

When did Andoni and Eastern Obolo leave their Ibibiod language to adopt an Ijoh language? How did it happen? .
When this account was made about Ijohs not having land, Andoni was already a small civilised place fighting with Bonny..

This is a history of Ijohs written in 1800s.

Thoh:
they are Ijaws, nugu

Obolo people ancestors were not murdourous pirates.

Obolo are Ibibio speaking people.

Obolo people speak an Ibibio/Ibibiod dialect and nothing close to Ijoh.

Ijohs were pirates from Sierra Leone to do piracy work and steal.
By the time Ijaws came to that area, Obolo people have established their own small civilisation at Andoni.

Thoh:
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The Obolo (Andoni, Idoni) People, also known as Andoni tribe, is part of the proposed Obolo State. Obolo people are found in Rivers State , Akwa Ibom State and Abia State. They are part of Ijaw ethnic group, and have historical relations with Oron people, Ohafia, Ogoloma, Ido and Ibeno people of Niger Delta in Nigeria.

The Obolo people, put together, occupied the longest stretch of the Nigeria Mangrove Coastline Belt which also houses the largest oil and gas deposits in the Gulf of Guinea. The Andoni people refer to God as Awaji.[1][2]

There is no single Ijaw in Akwa-Ibom, Ijohs are not indigenous to Nigeria. They are from Sierra-Leone.

Obolo are Ibibio speaking people.

Thoh:
it's truth, Obolos are Ijaws.

There is no such thing... That fact only lie in the imagination of Ijoh landgrabbers looking for oil and water.

Do Ibeno and Obolo speak Ijaw?

Here is a colonial census and account of Ibeno and Obolo people. This is what their grandparents classify themselves as.

Thoh:
separate what from what, actually?

Ibenos are pure Ijaws.... IYC chairman is from there....

No, Ijohs are pure Bini people... Bini own Ijoh.

Ilaumoh:
Funnily the fight as nothing to do with Ijaw people .. meanwhile Ibeno is Obolo not ijaw and @kinematics was saying the truth ..

It is clear you guys are innocently and gracefully naive like an infant.

Well, I do not think Captain8, and his numerous monikers like Adakaboro8, ditaridisciple, giftbro and his numerous clan of clowns will agree with you.

Ibeno and Obolo land is too sweet and the oil too precious, and the waters so quenching, that Ijaws have already mapped you guys out for conquest.

All you Ibibiods should settle your differences and forge a way forward for yourselves.

You are lucky you already have governors that are interested in your development.

Igboid:
You need mental evaluation.

The Ibos in Sierra Leone had Igbo union and organized themselves into a caucus in the Island.
Admission into the union was strictly on being Igbo speaking.

If we have people from Kalabari identifying as Igbos in Sierre Leone, it only supports what Captain Crow wrote, which is at that point in time, the King of new Calabar was of Igbo origin.
So the common sense there is that at that point in history, Kalabari was bilingual in Igbo and Ijaw before the Ijaws hijacked the town.
The Igbos from Kalabari who find themselves in Sierre Leone freely identified themselves as Igbos, likewise the Igbos from Eleme.

The Igbos of Bonny and Opobo identified as Ubani Igbos.

Grow a brain.

That is Such a tall order for him to attain you know?

North on North violence.

Anonymous15:
interesting, it is now very clear all of this English men in their journals consult mainly the Ibo slaves aboard ships or in England when writing.

That number 9 is a full prove. look at number 9 (Bom) which is the name the igbos called kalabari.
I will be showing you an excerpt where pepple and Samuel crowther properly detailed the original name and the nickname the ibos call it.
Obani is also a name the igbos call Bonny (okoloama)
It is obvious all of these books you paste here were information gotten from Igbo slaves in England or slave ships.
Now take a look at this report king PEPPLE and CROWTHER was sending to the British archives.
"Bonny is called OKOLOMA by THEMSELVES
Bonny is called okoloBA, OBANI, IBANI by the IBOS
New calabar is called BOM by the IBOS"

And in your Excerpt, number 9 was written Bom,and the last line Obane.
This excerpt below will clarify you.
I will also call Igboid to come and view for his pleasure.
Thicksharon123 and ezecanada you both are also welcome to see.
Now compare it with the Excerpt from koelle Ekealterego brought.
If Bom and Obane were detailed as towns, it was obvious these Englishmen got the information from the slaves they bought.

King PEPPLE himself and crowther clarified it.

Not all Kalabaris were called Bom.. New Kalabar in those days was a multicultural, multi ethnic place. It is a relatively new "tribe" consisting of Ibibios, people around that area like Andoni, Abua, Brass people and then mainly Igbos

That's why People like Asari will tell you full well his fathers and traceable ancestors are the Ediabalis who are Igbos.

The Bom people are people of New Calabar that spoke Igbo

As you can see Koelle's work was mainly about language. That's why his book was titled, "polyglotta Africana".

This guy are you being willfully dumb?

This is the only work done outside of that area that we have used since the inception of this thread. The rest was carried out in the Niger Delta area.

The reason why I brought this at the end is because this was Sierra-leone, a very important place when it comes to publishing of most of the works written and the place of freed slaves.

Kinematics:
Mobil sold to seplat? Damn I don't like indigenous companies taking over anything oil and gas in Nigeria. Their workers welfare is always nonsense. I'm not just talking about seplat alone but anything indigenous in the o&g industry in Nigeria.

However good to know that Ibeno people are now getting wise. Funny thing is Eket people have dominated Mobil than any other people from Akwa Ibom, not even Ibeno people.

Ijaw landgrabbers, already fuelling quarrels looking for solid land, water and oil to grab.

You know quite well, that the severance of ties between Ibeno and Eket is the key to grabbing Ibeno.

IYC and your hungry INC are already sharing 500 recharge card on their Facebook group.

Ilaumoh:
Pls can you be more elaborate cos we don’t understand you ?

Igboid, these ones are not even aware of what is happening at all.

They are busy bickering and fighting each other while Ijaw drunks are swarming around like vultures looking for decaying body to devour.

Alabo7978:
You will never hear something in this life. The ijo connection in Sierra Leone and Gabon were migrant fishermen who didn't mean to go that far, but were lost at sea.
Even now people get lost whenever the fog covers the water. And before it clears, water go dn carry you.
And you keep being daft...my dialect isn't ijo, it is Nembe, Nembe Nembe for the umpteenth time, so you can't tell me which language in the Niger delta is closer to ijo.
Almost every dialect in the Niger delta is closely related to ijo. Every one under the ijo Ethnic group knows this.

Now look at that screen shot,, do you see how far Volta and edoid are placed?

Brother, stick to a topic you are familiar with.

Being Niger Congo in southern Nigeria is not something of special consideration

95% of all the people in southern Nigeria and southern west Africa are NIGER CONGO

Niger Congo is not narrow enough to classify people in southern Nigeria in order to find a relationship.

Igbo, Yoruba Igala are ALL Niger Congo.

You have to narrow it down way more

Yoruba, Igbo and Edo are YEAI people.. they fall are Volta-Niger people.

When you go more narrower, Epie are Edo people based on their mother tongue.

Guy, stick to a topic you are familiar with.

Ijoh is different from any other language in Southern Nigeria. It shows that they are from an entirely different people in West-Africa. They don't match the location there are in.

SaintBishop:
Help me as am.

SAINTBISHOP replying BLACKSAINTS... hahaha..

Joro to Joro.

Alabo7978:
A clan or tribe is a CLOSE KNITTED group of INTERRELATED FAMILIES or A SOCIAL DIVISION in a traditional society linked by blood ties and a dialect.

A clan can be big or small, but the vital thing is blood ties and the interrelated families.
Nembe use to have one king before the the 1690's till bassambiri was founded. then in the 1700s obioku was founded, and there are other kingdoms to which were established.
It is growing, and you might feel it is too big to be referred to a clan, but it is bounded by BLOOD TIES and DIALECT.

Now about Epie-attissa, because of the influex of engenni migrants who brought the edoid language, and it corrupted them a bit; perhaps that is what that guy is trying to say, and the other ones are not correlating with him.
Epie-attissa speaks a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE, ijo too is a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE.

Epie-attissa has another group that speaks the edoid language because of the engenni migrants like I told you, so the other groups who were there before engenni migrants came won't let them pull them.

And let me shock you, do you know a town in engenni has migrants from ogbia? And they speak plain ogbia language which is a NIGER-CONGO LANGUAGE? The name of that town is ogbogolo .
Engenni were conquered by Benin, and they migrated and brought that influence.
This intertwined truth is bigger than you, and it will even confuse you.
Visit the town, stop visiting FACEBOOK
Infact engenni has three languages (one edoid, the other ijoid being the migrants from ogbia)
No matter what, we still hear them to an extent when they speak.
The engenni migrants which even have an ijoid migration faction can not pull the entire Epie-attissa.

Don't try to be clever here.

Most languages in West Africa, except for Northern tribes like Hausa are all Niger Congo. Even Twi in Ghana is Niger Congo.

Ijoh as a language sticks out like a sore thumb. Ijoh is the only different language group in that area. It is more related to Kru in far away Senegal and Sierra-Leone.

More narrowly, Igbo, Yoruba, Edo, Epie and Engenni, Urhobo, Isoko, Akoko are all Volta-Niger people.

Ijoh is different from ALL these languages.

Igboid see this Guy's cunning explainatiin of his version of Niger-Congo. He doesn't know his language is closer to Kru in Sierra-leone than it is to any language in the Niger Delta.

ThickSharon123:
This is interesting. So, Opobo and Bonny were living in a lie. Or did they know all these things but decided to join the scam Ijaw nation or organisation to get derivatives. If that's so, then it's okay. But I hope they never believed in the lie that they were born slaves from Igbo ancestors. That's cruel of Ijaw people. To lie and sniff out their heritage and their pride.

Some know, some do not. They lived under a government that demonised being Igbo for long when Ijaws were in charge of that state.
Even if they know, they were forced to suppress it. Secondly, they supported the Biafran struggle and were punished for it.

Again, the media and everything were in the hands of the government of that day. The false propaganda that their language was the language of the slaves, rather the language of the slave and the king as well have been shouted down their ears for long.
History hidden from them. However, many of them know the truth.

lele007:
What book is the excerpt from? where can I get it

Koelle S. (1854) Polyglotta Africana.

Probably put a search on Google to see if you can get a scanned PDF copy.

Best regards,

Eke

Anonymous15:
Are you serious abi you're joking
??

Are the okoloama people not a clan of the ijo Ethnic nation?

I'ne togubelemo'o
Alendi' o

You better take Time.

This book was published in 1854 by Koelle

Igboid, for your viewing pleasure.

You can see Obani at the end.

Igboid, it seems at some point in history, citizens of Mboli did speak Igbo or at least were dualingual in terms of their mothertongue. Maybe as Aro influence waned, they lost the language.