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afonjaheadhunts:
PHIjo don't be shy come back, I can see someone that is dragging stupidity with you. Atleast you can string one correct sentence together, not this slowpoke.

Olodo Ijaw was the first tribe to do what? Maybe in Togo sha.

Have mercy on them.. If your ancestors were documented as a wild, rude and treacherous race, you also will be binging on ogogoro like these guys.

tender justice with mercy.

AdakaBoro8:
the whole of south east can boast of any beauty city like this.. yenagoa u too much. jealousy wan die

The number of mansions in my village alone will swallow the whole of Bayelsa. Oga dey know your mate.

This is the height of disgrace!!! So, this is what the 8 LGA, 75% of which are Ijaws can come up with?

Mehn! Guy don't even talk again, you are a disgrace. Even the Ohambele and Azumini area wey una dey hustle for better pass all una city combined.

Guy, I can't even look at you the same again.

AdakaBoro8:
wow! can a city be this beautiful!... mean while some pipu wey jealousy don finish their reasonings will compare dea dust-bin dust-bin aba city to yenagoa..mtchew.. mostly nigercity and Ekealterego .

So, even with all the veil effects of the forced beautification with an uninspiring roundabout, this brown roofed swamp is the best the whole of Bayelsa can muster to promote the state to the world... Disgraceful..

I thought you would be ashamed... Even Abiriba and Afikpo villages will beat this hands down.

I thought you would be ashamed. If you could reel at the pictures of this small place, I can only imagine what your creek will look like.

AdakaBoro8:
i have said it that aba, the ibo finest city cant be compared to yenagoa..

When you drop that ogogoro and sober up, you can come forward let's have a civil discussion...

AdakaBoro8:
he talk out anything that just come into his brain.

Dey here dey find land to grab... Look at your Bayelsa village is on front page.

So, Bayelsa is suppose to be your homeland but look out how painfully backward even the most developed town, (the state capital) is.
Shame on you... Don't go and concentrate on how to move your polluted advanced village forward.

So, you conveniently left out the fact that ESN have been at the forefront defending the defenceless villages in Ebonyi you left for dead in the name of politics to please your masters.

You demonise innocent citizens of Ebonyi just to please your masters and blame them for losing pregnant women and innocent children to Fulani swords.

Now, suddenly, you want to take the glory for the success achieved in dislodging the criminals from the forests.

Vinnie2000:
BOOM!! Wat I have been saying since the beginning of dis thread..

Am a Deltan but some persons commenting abt dis issue are not..

Super Eagles Ex Captain Sunday Oliseh(dat name is likely Ukwuani/Kwale) Boldly stated recently dat He is NOT Igbo n does not being addressed as Delta Igbo!!

Dorathy of BBNaija calls herself Delta Igbo n Ikas were very Angry@her!!..
.

As I have said earlier, D Ndokwas/Ikas have stuck to dier guns that they re NOT Igbo n don't even like being cald Delta Igbo!!

It is Aniocha Oshimili pple (Asaba, Issele-ukwu) that doesn't mind.(because of dier closeness to Onitsha..)

So let's end d arguments..D tribes are Igbo-related or Igbo descendants but have Carved a Niche for demselves hence u hear titles such as Dein of Agbor...

thank you!!

To get it well for you, people from Ukwuani LGA are divided on the Igbo issues (Maybe 40:60) but people from Ndokwa East and West (who also speak like people in Ukwuani LGA) would tell you they are Igbo... Nwayiogwashi, the foremost and most respected nairalander from that region will break your head if you tell her she is not Igbo... but people from Ukwuani LGA differ on this.. But they are all called NDOKWA because that is the name of the old administrative district or LGA where these 3 LGAs are carved from.

Yeah, you are right no controversies in Enuani at all...

All the controversies arose after the civil war, It is even recently that Igbos in Cross-Rivers, Benue and Kogi state are coming out to be counted as part of the Igbo nation before they were so under the radar that they seem almost non-existent.

However, all these do not matter in this case since we are talking about language. They all speak Igbo dialect, which is the technical linguistic classification.. Igbo is the language, however, politically or ethnically they can choose to be distinct.

PHijo:
When did Ogbia people become Ibibio?

Ibibio people are not even found in Cross River state then they will be found in Bayelsa? How is that possible?

The only state Ibibios and Annang are indigenous to apart from Akwa Ibom is Abia state.

If only you use logic more often, you would know that Akwa-Ibom was created from Cross-Rivers, and states are arbitrary...
If we go by your logic, Ijaws cannot be found in Ondo state too...

Ogbia people, annang, Obolo, Ibeno, Ibibio are all classified under Cross-Rivers languages based on ethnologues.
Although they all do not have a common political purpose as one people, trust me, when they regain their consciousness, half of Bayelsa will be claimed based off of language alone by people from Akwa/Cross.

jerseyboy:
You are a fair minded person. Everyone should choose freely. Igbo Nation will be great one way or the other. All the grabbing territories here and there is a distraction. It makes Igbos look desperate and feared.

No Igbo person is grabbing territories here... Even the worst of IPOBS will not call non-Igbos Igbos.... It is those who grab territories that are quick to point accusing fingers... We know who and who will ride with us and at the end of the day...
However, those irredeemable Igbophobic Igbo speaking clans will surely be cut off...

PHijo:
If you know the history of Abia and Imo you wouldn't even post it!

Much of Abia and Imo was owned by Ijaws and Ibibio people.

The Ndoki have Ijaw ancestry. This is something we ( Ijaws) in Rivers state know.

So, now you have moved away from Bayelsa, na Imo and Abia your eye dey now..

You are involving Ibibio people whereas right now you have claimed their people (Ogbia) as your own since your population is not more than 1 million.

gregyboy:
Are you talking as an idiot or probably its a family syndrome


Benin fell under 3 moths and guerrilla warfare continued for 2yrs



Modafucker what do you know about bini history,

I expected such from a tribe that had no history prior to the arrival of thr Europeans you fool

Oga, Benin Expedition of 1897 is there is every history book and war LIbrary for any literate person to read... The whole Benin City was stinking. It was the stench of sacrifices that delayed it for 7 days, the actual attack and take over only took a few hours. Subsequently, the oba chiefs were hanged before the market square.

The Oba ran to seek asylum in Calabar, leaving women and children to fight...

What took almost a year was Aro-Anglo wars of 1901-1902... Which transpired to ignite the 30 years Ekumeku war...

You think you are lying to your illiterate minions.

The maps, the names of the soldiers, the size of so called empire is available for everyone to read.

gregyboy:
Nah plan A is benin kingdom

Plan B is Niger Delta


The British cheated us not making our empire a kingdom just to break the oba powers, incase if the empire rise someday

Oga when the British came to conquer you under a few hours, your so called empire did not go beyond your 3 LGAs... Stop living on fictitious glory...

Mrlcredible:
so which river con big like that cos I no there are no large bodies of water in the SE asides from river Niger.

You are very funny. There is no SE state without a very very large body of water. This one is small (That is Ndibe beach by the way)... Many states are named after rivers. E.g Imo state is named after the large river

What of Azumini blue River in Abia state? The blue River is just some minutes away from the Atlantic..

Mrlcredible:
the third picture is river Niger and it's not in afikpo

Sorry bro .. the picture is from a screenshot of video on Afikpo. I took the screenshot myself. That's no where river Niger.

ken6488:
On the long run biafra will suffer the most, inertialy we wanted to give you guys towns like asaba, but it seems like you guys will not be getting anything

And who are you to tell Asaba people, do you guys have brain damage or just plain duuumbbb? It seems you do not know that you are a minority? It seems you do not understand that you can be squashed in minutes? That is why 95% of all your comments have Igbo in it.

AdakaBoro8:
who told u we hate igbo?? It was ur ipob that insult and disregard our identity and ancestors.. They abused our existence.. How on earth, will one leave his father house go drag another family house and properties add to his father house without consulting the people? Ipob underrated ijaw so much.. we will never forgive ipob.. ojukwu did thesame.. u igbos are very stupid o.. thunder fire una.

Of course, an insults them Igbo people go get from una.. I kukuma tell the stupid boy make e go find better other areas snap... All these dumbbbb drunks vermins from the creek.

AdakaBoro8:
dont worry 2moro i will post pics of yenagoa for people to see here.. u go confirm say aba na bush fr wear yenagoa dey.

You do not need to... Even an Igbo boy travelled all the way down to Bayelsa to get a beautiful drone shot to promote your own Bayelsa state... He was not paid for it, he did it in the name of "them be our brother na"... of course he was ignorant not knowing about the hate in your own hearts.

On YouTube, he has the best shots of Bayelsa you could imagine even though he did not receive money in exchange for this exchange.

AdakaBoro8:
go visit aba and see the trash city u cal finest... u cant eat while walking in aba due to it dejected dirt

Okay... bring your screenshots of Bayelsa best city let us compare it with Aba.

This is a video with areal shots... Please, bring your Bayelsa let us see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY1i0EDHn-s

AdakaBoro8:
guy u village wel wel o.. ijaw is an english word for Izon.. when u have not travel out of ur papa village how can u know anything? dialect differences vary from every tribe.. in igbo ebonyi and imo, abia never understand each other.. same to onitsa and imo never understand... anambra man cant understand abia man.. u hv never travel before to know all this.. same thing in yoruba.. so it not crime for izon also to have dialect difference..

Stop typing ignorantly. Dialects are different from languages. The languages in Imo state, Igbo speaking parts of Delta state, Anambara state and so on are all dialects of the Igbo language under the scientific and academically certified Igbo language. No Anambra man will say he does not understand Imo state man, not in the history of this world. They will understand each other but because the dialects differ, courtesy demands they speak a central dialect (which is the Igbo spoken in big Igbo cities or Central Igbo or they adjust their dialect a little bit to the centre (I know you do not understand jack though since you are not Igbo).
However, there is nothing to adjust between Engenni and Izon. first Engenni is an Edoid language and so it is not a dialect of Izon. In fact, Engenni will relate more to Urhobo and Isoko than anything else.
Ogbia, Kugbo, Abureni, etc are Cross-River languages - which means they are more related to Ogoni, Ibibio and Efik than they are to Ijaw... The dialects of Ijaws are clearly separate and defined. Anyone with a tad bit of knowledge of linguistic or ethnology will understand this simple fact.

Okodia for instance is clearly an Inland Ijaw dialect, and no one will argue this with you.. That is what is called a dialect but still almost marginally intelligible, how much more the others which are not even in your language group?

IDENNAA:
You are not lying but I am danm sure nobody from Rivers state will ever defend the Igbo this openly. They don't want our association and that is totally fine with me. I am proud of being Igbo and I will never bend and beg anybody to join be , accept me nor love me.....agaracha must hear am , later. What goes around comes around. I see how Wike is dancing naked publicly to impress his northern masters but I never commented on that and so are many other Igbo. Soon Wike will realize he is nobody and that Igbo is too big for a little Ikwerre rat to mess with.

LOL. Well, do not generalise though, one of my best friends from Etche is even a radical when it comes to pro-Igbo matters. One of the fastest-growing Igbo history group on Facebook promoting Igbo culture was opened and even sustain right now by many Rivers Igbos, and I also think they pushed to have representatives from other non-core Igbo states as strong admins... They also have a strong presence there.... Their issues is a hard nut to crack though cos they have extremist on both ends, while the rest are confused in the middle. So, do not generalise your Rivers Igbo assertions.

Do not get me wrong, I of the opinion, that strong Igboophiles should start showing the self deniers the exit door and kick them out as far as can. They need to be chopped off. The Igbo nation should make an example out of Wike but to my chagrin, most of them seem to treat all these guys with soft hand.

Fooolishbuharri:
Vredo Oniovo!!

I understand all you've said and while I share certain sentiments on your points we should be careful about generalizing. It will be a fallacy to say Urhobo men have failed. The typical Urhobo man looks beyond Ibori and others and whilst I must say some are not upstanding as ought, it's a general problem with Nigeria.

I'll pick certain points you made and touch on them.

1. Yahoo boys and cultists: they are not a problem associated with only Urhobos as a matter of fact, there are more igbo criminals than there are Urhobos in per quota based on population. Cultism is currently ravaging igbo land like wild fire, same as drug peddling. For every 10 Nigerian drug pushers caught outside the country, hardly are they not all Igbos. But you didn’t see me call those out because crime has no ethnicity.

2. Advising about putting infrastructures on ground is a good call but I find it laughable you've not held your own leaders in the SE to accountability. So we don't turn this into a comparison on who has it bad or worse, I'll say no more but at least you can see we all have problems on our various sides of the divide.

To the topic, you said I am pointing fingers at Igbos when we have more problems but did I really say anything out of context? That man I quoted said certain things that were thought provoking and those had to be said. I won't say I'm more igbo than you are, but I can say I share igbo interests more than some Igbos, having spent a great time of my youth in alaigbo.

Biafra hasn't come yet, but they are already discriminating against minority tribes? Heck they even discriminate against themselves. Are those things what we should bother ourselves with now?

Regards

1. Brother, I will not go deeper, but I am sure of what I saw


2. I actually commended your politicians like Ibori and many grassroots politicians for putting Urhobo first in terms of infrastructures. I know what Ibori did in Oghara, although the issues with the youth is a matter for another day.

3. While I was there, I did not meet one Igbo man who hated or showed any hate towards Urhobo people... not one.. They may talk about the culture, (especially the ogogoro drinking culture and how the men treat women or womanise) which are differences in culture but it does not cumulate to hate. Instead, I was on the receiving end of initial "envy" or mild jealousy when I tell them I was Igbo but I must commend that these feelings fizzle out quickly when we interact more). From my experience, the hate was from the Urhobos rather than from the Igbos.

4. Urhobo was never part of Biafra though, I do not even support IPOB when they call Urhobo into the agitation sometimes because the Biafran dream was never their dream. I believe they will go wherever the people in Edo state choose to go.

I really missed the bushmeat (Antelope and palmy) and the cheap crayfish at Koko market...

ariesbull:
Chai.... you know there very well, do not forget Emevor Sapele etc. same mentality

I know the place like the back of my hand... I do not know Emevor though... Even in Sapele that one could call a town, Igbos still own most of the good businesses.. The high birth rate amongst women is alarming.. A women will give birth to like 8 children in this present generation and many kids do not want to go to school, while fathers are busy gulping voluminous amount of Sapele water As at when I was there though, the government tried a lot to refurbish many schools.. Big schools like Okotie-Eboh (I believe) got some attention... Soldiers were stationed at the entrance road into Sapele after the bridge that connects from the Ethiope River.
Some youths have tried to break that cycle to achieve great things though especially people from rich homes.

However, I do not know what the situation is right now, but I do not believe magic happened overnight.

IDENNAA:
Another Igbo man masquerading as a NigerDelata.....shameful

Some of my brothers are quite pathetic

Probably not. Yesterday an indigenous Igbo lady from kogi state was expressing her fears as to why their communities have not started making move to promote more relationship with their Igbo brothers because she cannot afford to be part of the North or wherever Kogi might be when there is a split... She and her other fellows came out to prove beyond reasonable doubt the location and even their exact compound in Kogi because many Igbos thought she and her fellow Igbo kogites were joking or something... Many Igbos were not aware that there are Igbos in Kogi.
What it seems is that you do not understand that majority of Nigerians, even the elite, are already getting the signs of disintegration. The fact that it is stronger on the Biafran side does not mean, others have not seen the signs, although, of course, many are living in denial.
Many who had kept a low profile are realigning themselves... An example of those who have been making that noise lately are indigenous Igbos in Benue state.

Nwanyiogwashi:
Add igbogene people to it,those people don't see themselves as ijaw too.

There are many more.. I gave this as an example.. There are Igbo speaking groups in Sagbama. In g´fact, in Sagbama and Yenegoa LGA, Ijaws are actually the minority rather than the majority. Ogbia LGA is like 50-50, even Brass is not 100% Ijaw..

AdakaBoro8:
hmm! i never knew ignorant one like u still existing... only one single isoko community is mixed up in bayelsa. which means bayelsa is 99% ijaw that speak the IZON language.. unlike anambra with more than 3 ethnics.. or abia, imo, ebonyi with more than 5 ethnicities.

Give this statistic to someone who is not familiar with Bayelsa or know people within Bayelsa... See man I know a very influential man from Mbiama in River state with very strong links to people and in-laws just on the other side of Yenegoa. His sentiments have been how you Ijaws are championing your Ijaw course and failing to acknowledge their right as a people even though they do not speak your language or even understand it and vice-versa... He gave me list and reference to official publications of languages of their people are related people within Rivers State and Bayelsa... He also to me how you people are pressing down other minorities and their ability to stand out from your Ijaw expansionist agenda..
His greatest anger is that you are pushing your Ijaw names forward rather than choosing a neutral name, therefore suppressing their right as a distinct ethnic group with a language that is not even in the same language group as Ijaws nor Ijoid.
I have been to Mbiama myself and environs and I can tell you authoritatively that the main language most people speak is, Engenni (which sounded like Urhobo/Nini to me) most speak Igbo as a second language and then the most popular being Pidgin English,,,

Fooolishbuharri:
It's talks like this that makes the average SS man wary of you Igbos. You people may become the monster you're fighting against if given the chance. I'm an Urhobo man, I have an Igbo wife from Enugu. I have lived in Enugu for over 11 years since and after school.

I have the interest of the Igbos at heart same as I have the interest of the Urhobos and in general Niger deltans. You Igbos have this ego that makes you think everyone should toe your path without question, forgetting others have bigger egos than you. An Urhobo man for example is a very proud man. A Bini man is a very proud man. These men would die first than play second fiddle to anyone.

We should be thinking a way forward for cohesion not back biting the other. All you've managed to say here is point fingers and accuse the other of not buying into your vision of which he doesn't owe you a duty to. We have a larger problem now which is Nigeria and fulanis. Everyone's focus should be tackling that. Not measuring who's dlck is bigger and has more hair around the groin area. Talking about inferiority complex... Who's inferior to whom?

Migwo!!
As someone who worked in community projects around Oghara, Mosogar, Jesse, Sapele (although the Okpe people want to claim a distinct group which I do not understand), Koko and sometimes around Abraka and Ughelli. I believe you should fear more for the future of your people and especially the younger generation. "Ghana burgers", cultists and oil bunkering seem to be the order of the day for your growing youths... petty stealing and promiscuity is on the high.. I know Ibori stole but I must commend his great efforts to establish and build Oghara and Mosogar and also the efforts of grassroots politicians like Amori to promote education within the community and influence the building of infrastructures...
I commend the hard work of the strong women within Urhobo communities too, but the majority of the men have failed as fathers... What is happening in the communities is sad and many are not prepared for the future despite the untapped potentials... I hope you provide stronger community outreach... Business sense amongst the youths is not just there to compete outside of Urhoboland and even within the Urhobo communities, if you find any thriving big well-oiled business, it is mostly run by an Igbo man...

You have a whole lot more to deal with within your community but I am surprised that you are blind to that but rather pointing accusing fingers to Igbos.. In order to stay diplomatic, I will not go in deeper.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100816737]yes. all the boasting people were in way closer to bayelsa.. na jealousy wan kil dem[/s]

What is in Bayelsa state that people are envy with is igbogene, Amasoma. Brass. Kaiama. Koluama. Nembe. Ogbia. Oloibiri. Opokuma?

Well, not even everyone in Bayelsa is Ijaw, some of the minorities there will find it insulting. In fact, 35% of the population do not speak Ijaw as a native language nor do they identify as Ijaws.

ChinenyeN:
I’m a bit confused on why you’ll state that your grouping is not based on an in-depth study, then ask what others think (all of whom have disagreed), yet you disagree with them all.

So on what basis are you disagreeing? Was your grouping actually based on an a deeper study? If so, why hide that? If you’ve got any novel information or considerations that informed your attempt to group the various lects, feel free to share it.

I don’t know about most, but I know there are at least a handful of NL’ders that would be interested in learning how, why and what informed your grouping.

Koell`s Polyglata Africana in the 1840s or 50s formed the foundations of the language and dialect groupings in West Africa. I believe he had the following specimens according to him and grouped the lects thus:

NigerDeltaRep:
I bet you to say one thing without mentioning a tribe... Tribal bastard

It seems you are high on something bad... You have use all sort of ethnic slurs at will then turn around to call someone a tribalist.. this Ijaw man claiming Ibibio.

WorWorBoy:
Okrika ,Kalabari Bonny, Opobo are all clans not tribe. And they fall under the ijaw tribe.

Under which constitution. The last time I checked, these were all counted as distinct people. people were counted according to their mother tongue and unfortunately, Opobo that I know cannot muster one Ijaw word, they all speak Igbo, even in their meetings.

NigerDeltaRep:
lool you think I hate you?. I don't give a fk if you exist or not.. cus I'm just a minority in your flat head... If there's any igbos am concerned about, it's the ones that will call Niger Delta he even after we break out , it extends to every other tribe member that wants to stay!!!! As far as you keep the laws... I think like a democrate.. for a place to grow, all.... Who can eat, live and die must work hard to grow that place,.... That's what makes America what is today...



and for your information I'm an Akwa-ibom man and I'll never shy away from it .. am a proud ibibio man with family ties to oron, igbo and annang... As a 21st century young man, I adopt thinking as a human being not a tribal bastard.... I bet you to reply me without paying significance to tribe it ethnicity? Why is it that when you bastards go abroad you drop ur tribe at home and pick up general black? You don't .about looking for the tribes of people overseas why?? Or is tribalistic confusion the only thing you can do when we say we want NigerDelta Remember the bet

In addition, quite sadly, you cannot be championing a Niger Delta union when sadly (to my chagrin), the big Ibibio group cannot bring all the Cross-River groups together. What is the difference between Anang, Ibibio, Ibeno, Oron and Obolo. Every village wants to be an ethnic group... Sadly, the aggressive Ijaws through their IYC have take over Cross-River or ibibiod speaking groups in Rivers state and Bayelsa and claimed them as Ijaws.. Most of you do not even know that you have brothers in these states because you can seem to put away your differences.
Ibibio used to be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria...but today, Efik, Anang, oron, everybody want to be an oga and at the end of the day, despite all your resources and potentials, many of your children are relegated to being houseboys and housegirls all over Nigeria... For me, this is rather sad. Honestly!

NigerDeltaRep:
lool you think I hate you?. I don't give a fk if you exist or not.. cus I'm just a minority in your flat head... If there's any igbos am concerned about, it's the ones that will call Niger Delta he even after we break out , it extends to every other tribe member that wants to stay!!!! As far as you keep the laws... I think like a democrate.. for a place to grow, all.... Who can eat, live and die must work hard to grow that place,.... That's what makes America what is today...



and for your information I'm an Akwa-ibom man and I'll never shy away from it .. am a proud ibibio man with family ties to oron, igbo and annang... As a 21st century young man, I adopt thinking as a human being not a tribal bastard.... I bet you to reply me without paying significance to tribe it ethnicity? Why is it that when you bastards go abroad you drop ur tribe at home and pick up general black? You don't .about looking for the tribes of people overseas why?? Or is tribalistic confusion the only thing you can do when we say we want NigerDelta Remember the bet

You cannot be an Ibibio man...because to be frank with you, I have been discussing Afikpo, Abriba, Arochukwu and Old Bende, and trust me, no true son of a real born Ibibio man will stand against these groups because they have ancestral and DNA ties... Even the area where I come from, people still bear Cross River names and even in some areas one might not know when you are in Cross Rivers or Akwa-Ibom because they all share the same culture and even the Cross Rivers accent influences the spoken Igbo.... They all dance Ekpe and do the same Oro. In fact, the old men will give you a hard knock if one makes any silly jokes people do against Calabar people.... It is harder to imagine hate from that side.