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hammerDK:
U SAID ALOT BUT LEFT WITH NO POINT.

I WAS PRECISE AND CLEAR, IF U HAVE A POINT TO MAKE, DO SO CLEARLY.

DONT TRY TO VEER ME OFF POINT, LIKE U EMOTIONAL FOLKS USUALLY DO.


AT THE END, THE GIRL IS STILL GOING TO GET FuCUKED, NO MATTER WAT U DO AND IF U GET IN HER WAY AS A PARENT, NA SLAP STRAIGHT.

WE WILL STILL BE HERE TO DEFEND U WEN DAT HAPPENS AND CONDEMN HER.

Cradle robber... In an ideal world, your type would be wasting in prison with your ass torn consistently till you pass out. So, you want dey drag girl with primary school boy? Distateful!

debbleopto:
Are you aware, that some girls had been promiscuous from jss 1? When the rubber slack, they try handle bigger men.
Was in board school in primary and I saw some boys and girls doing it. It was horrible. One of my classmates in primary 5 was fornication a form 3 girl who was the daughter of our hostel matron.

Shut up!! You are a down-low rotten pig only suitable for castration... How can you even begin to defend this shit? How can you compare a minor and an old adult like Baba Ijesha, you this cradle robber?

Thinkfree:
Sound Sultan - Wikipedia
Sound Sultan is a Nigerian rapper, singer, songwriter, actor, comedian and ... He released his first single "Jagbajantis" in 2000, which was a hit in Nigeria. After independently releasing

Yes, but this particular picture was taken years years later. It was a reshoot for something.

Soundsultan didn't look this old or big when Jagbajantis was made.

chocboi78:
did Sultan remake dis video? Coz the one I saw, the kids were much younger and were not on uniforms.

Don't mind the low budget liar. This picture was taken years years after jagbajantis. That is not the video... That is definitely not soundsultan in Jagbajantis... He was way younger and thinner.

PHijo:
I don't need to name any books! Go and find out the first authors of Nigerian history books, the first indigenous HODs of history departments in Nigeria and stop being silly.

Oga, so all of a sudden, they are all anonymous.. Name them an.. This is why no one takes you guys seriously.. You see how we talk with proofs, names and reference points. You cannot even name one.

PHijo:
Folly that made Omehia never to talk about Port Harcourt until he ousted.

Since when did the introductory page of a self-proclaimed linguist become a source for historical discourse?

You guys are a bunch of jokers!

The first set of Nigerian historians were mostly Ijaw or Itsekiri so what would you as a mislead IPOBISTS tell me?

Abeg park well!

Name the first set of Nigerian historians.. Half education is really bad I swear! Name the first books.

sageb:
Engenni people are Ijaws and they are members of Ijaw youth congress,INC,etc. Burnaboy is from mbiama in ahoada and he affirm it in an interview that he is Ijaw.

Understand that IYC is like Arewa (not everyone in Arewa is Hausa or Fulani as there are many other distinct minorities under the umbrella). It is more of a conglomerate of ethnic groups living in close proximity and Ijaw seem to be the largest or most politically active... Engenni language is not even in any shape or form related to Ijaw... not even in basic words... They are more like Edoid language.. If you go to Mbiama, there are a lot of intermarriages with people from Edo state, they believe (and rightly so) that their ancestors are from Edo state.. To make things even worse, 90% of them speak Igbo as a second language (the older ones 100%) and you can hardly find anyone speaking Ijaw, except one of the parents are actually Ijaw.

sageb:
Engenni people are Ijaws and they are members of Ijaw youth congress,INC,etc. Burnaboy is from mbiama in ahoada and he affirm it in an interview that he is Ijaw.

Guy stop yarning rubbish!! Go to Ogbede village square in Akinima right now and tell them they are Ijaw... You mistake IYC political expansionist move as ethnicity... Go to Jankarama and Akinima, they will be the first one to tell you that they speak an Edolike language and their people migrated from EDo state and still speak an Edo language. Mind you, even historical books from early 1800s rightly showed that they identified as Engenni,, Stop mistaking a political franchise like IYC as an ethnic movement. The cherry on top, all the people from Mbiama, who grew up in Mbiama all speak Igbo language even better than many Igbos but that does not mean they are Igbo, almost none that I met except those with mixed parentage speak or understand a word of Ijaw.

Afriifa:
What you have said here cannot be rebuffed entirely. I want to say you are somewhat correct. But they still identify with Ijaws because they are Ijaws, however, due to the proximity, I would say, that clan or sub-group (Egenni) of Ijaws were greatly influenced by other brothers (Edo) from Niger Delta. There could ave been historical affliations that were not documented presently.
The bottom line is, they're Ijaws, but were culturally influenced by our Edoid brothers to some extent.

Oniso! That is not entirely true.. Mbiama for example, is just by the border with Bayelsa.. I know these people like the back of my hand... Engenni people are a small tiny tribe with not so many communities.... In Ahaoda West, they share with Ekpeye, and in Yenegoa, they share with the closely related Epie.. Everyone knows everyone... Some might identify with Ijaws because there are many intermarriages with Ijaws, but they are also a lot of intermarriage with Igbos and people from Edo state... An average person from Jankrama, Mbiama, for example, speaks impeccable Igbo as a second language, and from my survey, almost none of them speak or even understand Ijaw. Yeah, many from the Riverine side may share that riverine culture, but most are into agriculture. And they refer to Ijaw people as Ijaw people and do not include themselves as being Ijaws... They clearly refer to Ijaw people as a different subset of people.

temptnow:
How on earth did they put an illiterate to represent Nigeria.
The Ghanaian boy made the Nigerian cow look stupid

quota system. Check out the Igbo guy who represented Nigeria around the same time.

Juliusmalema:
You are no different from the op. Tactless has Rubbished most of you on nairaland.
What on earth are you explaining to an antics..?
No wonder you will argue upto 20 pages on nairaland.

Shut up! you and the OP are one and the same people... Please, use another moniker, this new one has been exposed.

Juliusmalema:
You are no different from the op. Tactless has Rubbished most of you on nairaland.
What on earth are you explaining to an antics..?
No wonder you will argue upto 20 pages on nairaland.

Yyseke, Chino, Malezanew, Osageyefo98, arrewa, Abia1stsone, Okpalanambara and your 20 other monikers, nawa for you.. you created a topic just to quote yourself with another moniker to deceive people.. Do you have multi-personality disorder? How do you keep up with all these kayfabe personalities?

This guy is a Northerner, who grew up a lil bit in the East and people should be wary of him. He opened this thread as well.

sageb:
Burnaboy is an Ijaw man(engenni) from Ahoada west

I have Engenni inlaws.. Stop parroting nonsense... Engenni people are more related to Edo people than Ijaw. Their language is like Urhobo.. They are not Ijaws.. No real Engenni man will tell you they are Ijaws.. Their language is not anywhere close to Ijaws.

Divoc:
I just offered him a job...He should come and serve as my PA on public matters(attack dog). I will pay him well.

That is nice of you... He is cheap as well, $55 monthly is too good to be true.

Juliusmalema:
You are no different from the op. Tactless has Rubbished most of you on nairaland.

What on earth are you explaining to an antics..?

No wonder you will argue upto 20 pages on nairaland.

yyeske, under only a few years, only you have got 13000 comments on just one moniker, guy you are old and wasting your future. Go and learn programming, data science or something and make something out of your future. European countries are hiring; instead of wasting your life earning 30k online.

Skylin69:
[s]I'm from enugu born in anambra after my secondary school I traveled to imo. I'm currently in imo state now
I've noticed that ebonyians are most discriminated by follow igbo states
And abia state igbos are mostly what they have in common! Most of my enugu, anambra and imo state friends don't have problem marrying an abian. They see ebonyians as less igbos
But see abians as if they're what they have in common why!!
Is it because abia is in the middle of them or what?? [color=#990000][/color][/s]

There is nothing Igbo about you get out!!!!!The states are all imaginary lines.. Afikpo was an integral part of Abia.. The A in Abia was derived from Afikpo.,... now The great Afikpo is in Ebonyi state and they have a lot of great people in entertainment and education. Go and look for a job..

maasoap:
Ortom is a very dumb person. He likes attention and he likes to make sensational statements all the time.
He was the one who ran 10 kilometres when Fulani herdsmen wanted to assassinate him. Lol. Ask him the last time he engaged in physical exercise, he won't be able to remember. He will die of heart attack if he runs just 500 meters.
He was also the one who told us that Buhari and his Fulani people want to take over all Nigeria.

Mr. man, you guys are only deceiving yourselves... Your heads are trophies in Central African Republic, Mali, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Togo, Benin Republic, Niger, Chad and many other countries... Why only you blood-sucking criminals?
You think people are moved by your deceits, your violence will consume you very soon.

All the BMC zombies chanting SE emergency have all gone silent.. they are nowhere to be found... By the time Herdsmen are done with you, you would wish you lived in the SE.

I thought this man saw a prophesy that Buhari will be the best and everything will be good and dandy?
So Hopeless Uzodingo and Buhari don scam you now, like them scam Nigerians with "change" and "kpor kwulus kpor"..

I dey pity them 30k BMC crew, by the time these ones are dumped after wasting their youthful and productive years, they would wish they accepted the 20k offer by their other N-power scheme launched by ISWAP.

AdakaBoro8:
white men wrote those histories for u igbos.. wonderful! it means igbos existence started from the coming of whitemen.. yet u ibos have no respect for ages long Ijaw..

Your writing is terrible! I do not want to imagine what your spoken grammar will be like...

PHijo:
I don't deal with claims from the 1850s. I don't need those books to know my history. You are referring to Sierra Leone during the time it became a dumping ground for freed people that were being smuggled to slave markets in the Americas. If we are to talk about Sierra Leone from a historical or cultural perspective I will be in a better position to talk about it than your source.

Okay, you do not need documented history with facts, what you need is IYC poorly scripted and factless lies and fictions... Thanks but no thanks.. We will expose your folly... You guys do not know whom you are dealing with.

It is just that we do not have the time for you people yet.. There are mountains of facts.. This is just a tip of the iceberg.. By the time we are done with these facts, you will realise that Ijaw only got six and half LGAs, you will learn to stay within your boundaries.

PHijo:
Do you know what polyglot means to start with?
You Igbos are just too ignorant!
Debating with you guys is like debating with 3 year olds!
Go and check what a polyglot means before you come here to display your ignorance. Being a polyglot has nothing to do with history, even an illiterate can be a polyglot.

Inconsequential minorities that deceived Nigeria to believe they are a majority. Southern Fulani tribe.

You are just basically an offshoot of the Ijaw dunce who represented the Ijaw nation in Sierre-Leone in 1850...
I even mentioned the book and yet you could not even go there to research it.

These were Igbo people in Sierra-Leone then... Sierra-Leone was the academic and ethnological centre for history compilation of African nations during this period. Sierra-Leone had almost all ethnic groups resident there at that point. This research was basically about the different ethnic groups in Africa, the description of the geographic areas and their language. That was a summary, the book also broke down the Igbo subtribes and sub dialects.

In fact there are more convincing ones, but I am not revealing it here rather, I am using it for some other projects.

You did not even thank me for posting your history that you didn't know existed.

T9ksy:
So zik had no political clout in aligbo land? Same way another one of your duplicitous ilk claimed here that Zik was a nonentity by 1953. I wonder if you guys are talking about a different zik who was the president of the Ibo state union in 1948, the first ethnic grouping in the country.

This same zik was the regional premier of eastern region after his mischievous attempt to preside over the affairs of the yorubas who duly rejected him, 1951.

This was the zik who helped formed the most broad-based political party (NCNC) in Nigeria, in 1944 yet we are meant to believe that he was a nonentity in 1953.

Of course, he was not respected.. Read well, to see how he caused problems in the eastern region. The British government dissolved the current leadership structure in the Eastern region in order to install him after he had problems in the Western region.

Azikiwe's problem is that he was neither here nor there when it comes to ethnicity. Read the problems he had in the NYm where he broke away with the Ijebus (Then Ijebus strong sense of independence from the larger Yoruba nation was very strong) from the Yoruba dominated NYM and they went to join the NCNC...
See his history, when he was young, he could not speak Igbo, he only spoke Hausa, his parents had to take him to Onitsha to learn some Igbo but he ended up going back to join his father in Lagos after some years.. Zik could probably speak Hausa and Yoruba more than he did Igbo... He was a confused pan-Africanist and never really had my deep Igbo consciousness except when it benefits him or his pan-Africanist movements...
Nnamdi Azikiwe caused problems in 1953 in the Eastern region, when he could not win the premier, he went crying to the British Governor and the structure and leadership was dissolved in order to make him premier in the Eastern region when his quest in the western region (where he grew up partly).
So, how can someone who spoke more Hausa and possibly Yoruba more than Igbo represent Igbo interest? That is the difference between a Zik and an Awolowo. While Awolowo stood firmly for his people alone and had a deep Yoruba consciousness, Zik did not have any of such sentiments, instead, while his people were in a war, he was busy dining with Gowon. He was a Biafran traitor. In his biography, he claimed he was Bini and his ancestors came from Bini.

MrMaestro:
I'm focused on the bolded. The rest is besides the point.

Why is Zik championed by Igbos then? And why is Awolowo despised? If they both had very similar sentiments?

Despise how? The Igbos might despise Awolowo for his role in the war and his cowardice but of course most admire him for putting the interest of Yorubas first. For his policy of education for the Yoruba nation. Igbos did not have that relationship with Zik... He was more like a Pan-Africanist... Have you ever seen Zik in an Igbo attire?... He will die first than find him in an Igbo attire. He spoke Hausa better than he spoke Igbo. He did not represent Igbo interest and that is why people in the East hate him beyond anything.. they respect Ojukwu way more.

The Nigerian state magnified and glorified Zik and named monuments after him and praised him because he was a traitor. The guy fought against the Igbos during the war. . he singlehandedly went to the British government campaigning against Biafran interest during the war. He doesn't represent Igbo interest, not in any way.

MrMaestro:
So let me get this straight. Igbos started this thread agreeing with Zik, saying a united nigeria was fine as long as it was run properly and each had regional control/autonomy. Yet when asked why they disagree with Awolowo when he said the same thing, they then shift to say Igbos hate Awolowo because he orchestrated the food blockade. But when it was stated that Ojukwus forces were stealing the food, they then shift to say they would never steal the food, they merely rejected the food for "fear of their people being poisoned". So then in that case, why again is Awolowo hated then?!?

And if you all really agree with Zik on this premise, why exactly are people clamoring for Biafra? If you mention the lack of regional autonomy and oil, then why exactly did you all support Ojukwu when regionalism had already existed back then before the war?

THIS IS IDIOCY.

I actually love this thread because it proves the underlying nature of the Igbos. They can never stand in truth and honesty, they will perpetrate deception to fulfill their narrative and ambitions even if it goes against logic and truth. And they will lie, cover up, lie and lie and lie again.

Many people think the Igbos and Yorubas have more in common than the Fulanis. Don't let religion fool you. There's NOTHING similar btw Yorubas and Igbos. Which is why I wholeheartedly support Oduduwa Nation. Sometimes arguing with both Igbos and Fulanis is an exercise in masochism.

You are definitely not very bright... This is a propaganda devised by a paid BMC sponsored Igbo hater... First, Zik was making an analysis in the speech that was highlighted and Zik did not represent anything Igbo... This was the colonial period, and warrant chiefs were still in charge under the British administrators..

What right does Zik, who was born and raised in the North and a Pan-African to decide for the Igbo nation? He doesn't even have any political post, not even in the Igbo region.

The idiot of low intellect now injected his own opinion stating that Zik wanted to breakaway when it was Ojukwu that broke away.

Mind you, these negroes of low intellect, Nigeria was formed by the British people and Nigeria was still using their laws even at independence and there was nothing or room to discuss secession. Only the British had that power to decide.

afonjaheadhunts:
If not for Igbo and Igbo's Ijaws will never have seen civilization let alone cry over drugs that ijaw militants take on a daily

Even see the Ejo (their names were written as udtso in Sierra-leone) in 1850s.. They were just as dull and clueless... Men, nothing really changed...
The ethnologist who did this wonderful work was a Rev father... Kölle is his name, but he could not help but see how dull they really were.
Adakaboro8, this might be your great-great-great-grandfather.. LOL..
@Afonjaheadhunts, these guys did not really evolve much, except for those who were lucky to have a mixed Igbo maternal lineage (An obvious experiment)

afonjaheadhunts:
Why don't you help yourself guy, must you be senseless everytime, even on a Monday morning are you trying to tell me that the water that runs in the homes in European cities or countries are untreated, polluted stream water is that your point oga. Abi you want to still display your stupidity for all to see again.

Make-up or comedian I no sabi, all I am saying is Igbo's in Bayelsa want to be reunited with their kits and Kin, stop crying over that after all Bayelsa was dashed and some people don't see themselves as gift they want out I am sure others will follow suit Ijaws will be left with less than 2 LGA afterwards.

This should put a nail on the coffin once and for all.. this is an excerpt from the single most important book narrating African languages... Polyglotta Africana in 1854.
For the Igbos, these were the representatives from the Igbo country where 2100 words from the Igbo dialects were compiled... You can clearly see, Bonny (Obani or Upani) and Ndoki fully represented in the 1850s.
@adakaboro8 and phijo (take note)... We will finish you with history, we do not have time for minorities yet.

AdakaBoro8:
igbos, confessed and be saved.. this your dodging truth system will do you no better but more woes.

Guy go back to school... @Afonjaheadhunts, how do you read this guy's posts?

theTranslator:
lie
blackpast is not like Wikipedia at all

I'm not a child lol
it's similar to face2faceafrica.com

the underlined is the falsest thing ever Said

The website is an African American website that archives speeches.

You are trying to be clever by half... Whoever posted it inserted a comment at the top of the quote, stating something that has nothing to do with the quote.

You claimed that Nnamdi Azikiwe led a breakaway country and stopped the North from taking session.

Why are you people deceitful and chronic liars?

Ojukwu led Biafra and Zik had nothing to do with it neither did he fight on the side of Biafra.

Zik didn't have any powers do decide who should or should not secede. He had no political post. The power was with the British administrators, so how did Zik put that into law.... The speech you posted was more of an opinion and analysis.

You people are obviously not very bright.

thebosstrevor1:
One of the most sadistic event happened in igboland yesterday, a massacre of fulanis took place in igboland, not only that Ipob terrorists have been attacking the hausa community in igboland and also the police and military installations killing our police and armies on duty, someone should have expected that the highest igbo group in igboland called Ohanaeze Ndigbo would have come out to condemn the attack but they have decided to keep shut and let the killings continue.

But when ipob goes about destroying lives and properties, this same group will come out and tell us that the reason is because of igbo marginalization. If they could condemn the new IG and other appointments of Buhari, why are they silent on violence in their land.

Sometimes, i wonder, if Ohanaeze Ndigbo is now a puppet of ipob terrorist group? Are they scared that if they speak up, they will be a target of ipob. Can this group man up and tell us who they are in support of? Can they man up and condemn the atrocities of Ipob and Nnamdi kanu? Whose side are they loyal to Nnamdi kanu or Igbo people.

You supporters of APC are just very good at lying... No Fulani was killed but rather the other way around...

You people kill without forgiveness. Look at all the carnaged you have caused in the middlebelt. You guys have a curse of death and barrenness. Any land you March into turns to desert... Anywhere you trample turns to desert... In the past, Northern Nigeria was all round green but the place is turning into a desert fast. Why are you people like this? Why are you such a curse to any land you visit?

theTranslator:
blackpast a reputable pan African website wrote that not me

There is nothing overtly reputable about that website, It is similar to Wikipedia.. You can post facts and mix them with opinions. In the speech you posted Zik clearly stating an opinion and was nothing even forceful.. he did not remove secession into law and had no rights... Zik was born and raised in Zungeru, Niger state and even in his book, he stated that he is from Benin. He was more of a pan-Africanist and was never for once in stood solely for the interest of the Igbos... Igbos do not even respect him as of today...

Secondly, Zik was not representing the Eastern region. Ojukwu led the Biafran government and not the Igbos.. Pre-independence, Zik was not representing the interest or opinion of the Igbos nor Igbo people.. Whatever he did before independence (where he had no power) was solely for himself and not for the people of the East... He was more of a Nortzerner than an Igbo man. Have you ever seen Zik in Igbo attire?