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Who mentioned budget? gdp !=budget.

Part of the reason you seem to think I make things up is because you don't understand what is being said, it appears.

Anyway you can find the lagos gdp # from the economist. Nigeria gdp from tons of sites, wikipedia for one (see the references it uses mentioned there)

To put this figure in perspective, the economy of Lagos State is $40-50 billion. That of Nigeria is $200 billion or so.

Facebook apps alone may add $15 billion+ to the US economy.

Kind of insane if you think about it.

Although the U.S. employment and jobs economic outlook is bleak, a new study released today reports that Facebook is creating a thriving economy around its social network. According to new research from University of Maryland, the Facebook App Economy has added at least 182,000 new jobs and contributed more than $12.19 billion in wages and benefits to the U.S. economy this year. Using more aggressive estimates, the Facebook App Economy created a total of 235,644 jobs, adding a value of $15.71 billion to the U.S. economy in 2011.

The study evaluated jobs created in the app industry (direct employment), jobs created in other sectors of the economy from Facebook’s ecosystem (indirect employment), and the economic value of those jobs, including salary and benefits.

As we’ve written in the past, 2.5 million websites have integrated with Facebook, and Facebook users install 20 million apps every day. Every month, more than 250 million people engage with Facebook on external websites. Especially with the viral growth of gaming apps, as well as the use of the ‘Like’ button used by brands, more and more developers are building off the Facebook platform to tap into the network’s 700 million-plus userbase.

Clearly, the Facebook App Economy is huge.

Internally, Facebook has been known as a job engine of sorts, employing a staff of over 2,000 and growing rapidly. Of course, it would be interesting to see the economies of Google’s APIs and Twitter’s ecosystem evaluated in similar terms for comparison.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/19/study-facebook-app-economy-adds-over-200k-jobs-contributes-more-than-15b-to-the-u-s-economy/

Eko Ile:
ekt bear

lol

Do you really thing the governor of California fit open mouth and say "I can confidently say 80% of black folks in Chicago are are uneducated"?


Abeg lets limit this to the jungle called Nigeria, US is def' the wrong example because by now, the governor go don apologize and say den misquote am or even resign all together.

"80% of black folks in Chicago being uneducated" wouldn't lead to suicide bombing, Boko Haram, polio still not eradicated, governors meeting in Saudi Arabia plotting how to secretly retain power, etc.

In other words, poor education of blacks is not one of the root causes of America sucking as a country. If it were, then I would hope nobody shouts down said California governor.

Let us not bury our heads in the sand.

No offense, but some of ya'll remind me of white people here in the US upon hearing the bad educational statistics of African Americans, shout down anyone who brings it up and calls them a racist (you see this type a lot among white liberal democrats)

Is it better for AAs to deal with reality and the problem they have and find the best way to solve it, or bury their heads in the sand?

If you are actually a friend of the north, then you'll take this statement from Amaechi as a call to action, rather than shouting him down.

Or do you think you southerners who deny the existence of the problem will suffer more than the children who don't get education?

If Amaechi says that someone's foot is on fire and burning, will you also shout him down rather than looking for water to put out the fire? 

hercules07:
Since it is okay for Amaechi to say this about the North, I expect the governor of Zamfara state to come out and say 80% of all southerners are drug peddlers, 419ners and touts, especially those from Rivers state.

If the illiteracy rate of Northern children is close to 80%, what then?

So would all of this have been resolved if he'd provided some sort of reference to back up his #?

We've all seen all see the literacy rates for the NW zone before, right? Take a look here if you haven't: http://www.unicef.org/nigeria/ng_publications_North_West_zonal_fact_sheet_(English).pdf

Given those #s, how are we sure he is just making up the youth number? For all we know 80% isn't far from the truth.

I really wonder why calling a spade a spade is so taboo

David Mark?

Jeez. . .

Research in Motion just delivered another ugly quarter sending the stock into a tailspin.
It's down 17% as investors take a look at these numbers:
EPS was $0.80 versus expectations of $0.88
Revenue was $4.2 billion versus estimates of $4.5 billion
It shipped 10.6 million BlackBerrys versus expectations of 11.9 million units
RIM shipped 200,000 PlayBooks versus expectations of 400,000-600,000
RIM's cash was wiped out: It went to $1.4 billion at the end of the quarter compared from $2.9 billion in the quarter before. It spent $780 million on the Nortel patents, and had $285 million in capital expenditures.
Q3 revenue outlook is $5.3-$5.6 billion which is above the street's expectation (via RBC) of $5.3 billion.
What can we say about this company that hasn't already been said? It's in serious trouble. It's delivering bad quarter after bad quarter. We'll be listening to the conference call to see how the executives explain what happened.

http://www.businessinsider.com/research-in-motion-earnings-2011-9

I don't know what exactly your point is. I posed a question about whether you view two things as equivalent. It looks like you do.

We'll have to agree to disagree, I guess.

logica:
So what happens after you marry 2 sisters? You only sleep with the older one right, while you keep one as replacement in case the older one dies eh? So then, what "general human standards" are you talking about?

Do you not see the distinction between being married to 'em and not? Like, how the standards change after you get married?

I don't see how you are equating one dude boning his wife's sister with another guy being married to two sisters.

logica:
Which "general human standards"? it seems you know little about Middle-Eastern culture where a man can marry 2 or more sisters. I am almost sure this is also permitted in the North.

The Sister-in-law who was impregnated, is she married to Sullivan Chime? if not, then of what relevance is your example?

ezeagu:
It's not really an issue of general human cultural standards, for example the age of consent in Nigeria is as low as 13 in some parts of Nigeria, and polygamy is legal, all these things are an 'abomination' in other countries.

Right. But probably everywhere in the world, sleeping with your sister-in-law is viewed as disgusting, no?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=762880.msg9173257#msg9173257 date=1316384728]even in russia or UK  who would like it in there home city or state

But a city or a state has to take one for the team. that is how it is done in other countries

so why is Nigeria different[/quote]I have zero interest in "taking one for the team." Whatever the heck that is supposed to mean, as if I even like the team.

As far as electricity goes, given that Nigeria has one of the 10 largest NG reserves on earth, there is no reason to bother with nuclear power.

werepeLeri:
and we want Nigeria to be better.

Shame.

There is a time for political games and such, and then there is a time when you cannot play games and pretend any more. When you have to call a spade a spade. A time when the outcome of your decisions lead to life and death.

Do you want a nuclear power plant managed by the Nigerian FG in your home town? Tell the truth and shame the devil!

Read through this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster_effects

And I rate the Soviet gov't as orders of magnitude more competent than than the Nigerian one.

Hell it wouldn't be my first preference to live anywhere near a nuclear power plant even if the plant is managed by the US gov't.

Let alone the frikkin Nigerian gov't

Who wan die?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=762880.msg9173195#msg9173195 date=1316383946]so where is it going to be then

that sort of mentality is bad.[/quote]That sort of mentality is the mentality of survival. Nigerian government in charge of dangerous things that if mismanaged could kill me and my entire people? The same Nigerian gov't that has no track record of managing anything properly? Only a fool would invite such. And my momma ain't raise no fool

i wasn't referring to an 'abomination' by Igbo cultural standards, i don't know anything about that.

Just general human cultural standards.

No to nuclear power stations anywhere in the SW. Especially not in Ekiti.

I don't want to die when inevitably the power plant is mismanaged and a disaster happens

Impregnating your sister in law. . . that is an abomination.

Eesh

What even cracks me up about Jarus's "Sanusi haters are bigots" argument is that Sanusi is probably the most bigoted Nigerian alive. Or at least that I have seen so far proclaim his bigotry publicly.

How on earth are the #1 bigot in Nigeria and his supporters going to then accuse anyone else of bigotry?

Deep, deep hypocrisy. (black) Pot calling the (silvery-gray) aluminum kettle black.

I won't ever address this silly argument again. You'll have to do better than that.

^-- Abi o.

Maybe even in 2500 AD Nigerians will still be blaming colonization.

Or wasn't Singapore colonized too? Are they not wealthier than those who colonized them?

African man and his love of excuse making and scapegoating. . . annoys the hell out of me

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=762526.msg9172823#msg9172823 date=1316379022]I can show you a bigoted post by 98% of the NLers including you, who dislike Sanusi. Jarus'  observations are on point and accurate.[/quote]Show me a single post made by me in which I show dislike for Sanusi purely because he is a Muslim or Fulani.

I dare you.

@OP: Why are you in love with a tin-pot African dictator, dude?

Very weird.

@Jarus: Wtf is up with you always blaming people's dislike on him because he is a Fulani northerner and a Muslim?

Isn't this a bit silly? You think that anyone who doesn't like him is bigoted?  

Hehe, very facile analysis by you, if that is the case.

You are free to admire him all you like, I don't really care anymore. But don't boil other's hatred of the man down to simple bigotry.

How does this "Ijaw" giving land jibe with them being fishermen in ancient days? How could they have given away land that they weren't even using and was probably not even populated by them?

Or were they also settled farmers or something too back in the day?

hercules07:
Public does not mean it is free, someone must pay for it and our taxes and commonwealth are doing that, primary and secondary schools should be public, free and qualitative, it can be done and should be done.

Government run schools, public, free, and qualitative? When it is the state government doing it?

Good luck with that

May as well be waiting for unicorns or flying ponies.

The system doesn't work, is broken, and needs to be fixed if we want to not get outclasses academically by countries 1/2 our size (Singapore 1/30th of our size would kick our @ss in any academic competition.)

hercules07:
So the schools are public schools, why are you now advocating for private schools in Nigeria, the public schools in Nigeria are also funded from property tax among other taxes, I live in a fairly comfortable neighborhood (by naija standards) and my children can not attend the public schools there because of the poor standards, we need to ask on government to use the commonwealth for the true purpose, education being one of the important ones, there are two equalizers in this world, education and the internet.

I don't think the US system of education is the best, tbh. The current system works well for those who live in wealthy neighborhoods, but poorly for those who don't. (This is why I'm pro voucher. . . I want those who go to bad schools here in the US to be able to get vouchers to go to good private ones. But that is sort of a disgression.)

The issues are a lot more subtle than just boiling it down to public vs. private. In any case, the good public schools in the US are not really public like that. If you don't pay property taxes for that particular good school, then you cannot attend.

F*** Sanusi

hercules07:
@ekt_bear

Who is in charge of primary and secondary school education where you live? There are some things the government has to do right, education is one of them, they can not continue to delegate their responsibilities, if the old western region could have good schools, what stops the new ogun state from running a good primary and secondary school?

Where I live, the money for schools is raised from PROPERTY TAXES for a jurisdiction (think town-sized, or a few towns.)

So if you live in a rich neighborhood, generally you'll get a good education. If you live in a poor one, then generally you'll get a bad education.

So the schools are locally funded and locally administrated.

(If you live in a poor neighborhood there are some options though. You can pay for private school education yourself, or if your children are smart enough to pass the entrance exams for the elite public high schools, you can send your kids to one of those. The place where I grew up, the local high school was pretty good but I ended up going to the magnet HS. My little sister also goes to a magnet HS.)

Why should we believe the word of the SSS over Jang?