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Foreign AffairsRe: Israel Bombs Sudanese Rockets Factory by ektbear: 2:08am On Oct 29, 2012
I am impressed by these Israelis though.

Flew nearly 1200 miles in a mission, completely undetected.

And notice how they are neither confirming or denying the attack.

Nifty.
Foreign AffairsRe: Israel Bombs Sudanese Rockets Factory by ektbear: 2:05am On Oct 29, 2012
PoliticsRe: Is USA better than Nigeria??? by ektbear: 1:39am On Oct 29, 2012
ummm
PoliticsRe: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by ektbear: 10:12pm On Oct 28, 2012
Where does it say that only a government can take Gowon to the ICJ?
PoliticsRe: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by ektbear: 10:04pm On Oct 28, 2012
ikeyman00: ^^^
@@@@ and u think we all s tupid

i think before its get to that let that silly gowon stop speaking in codes

clear mind fear no. . . plz complete

una Yoruba really need to change for good
Can you translate this post into standard English? Something understandable and that relates to what you quoted?
PoliticsRe: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by ektbear: 9:40pm On Oct 28, 2012
Gowon has offered to stand before the ICJ, since he believes that he is innocent of any war crimes.

What more do you want from him?

The ball is in your court now.

So stop complaining, and act.
PoliticsRe: Fashola/acn Award. Why PDP Was Bitter With Me - Iwuanyanwu by ektbear: 9:28pm On Oct 28, 2012
Interesting.
PoliticsRe: A Man Witch Was Caught This Morning As He Plan To Distroy Ozoro With Flood Water by ektbear: 9:09pm On Oct 28, 2012
jude33084: Plz throw ♍☺re light on that smiley
Wizard or even warlock is the term I'd expect someone to use for a male magician. Witch, 99% of the time before I started visiting Nairaland, referred only to female magicians.

So this is why I find the OPs title kind of interesting.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:51am On Oct 28, 2012
Anyway all of this is cheap talk.

The luxury we have since we don't have to do hard manual labor for a living grin

If you are ever unfortunate enough to hurt your back badly one day, then you will understand what I am saying, and be able to sympathize with the common man.

Back pain is not a joke.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:45am On Oct 28, 2012
onatisi: NOONE PAYS UNSKILLED LABOURER 40K A YEAR IN USA .MAYBE A MASON OR STEEL BENDER OR CAPENTER BUT NEVER AN UNSKILLED PERSON.and ironically those are the jobs u term to be suffer suffer job in nigeria.outside nigeria ur certificate is worthless the first question anyone will ask u is what can u do,do u know whoopi globerg was one a bricklayer?
Well, let's look it up.

https://i50.tinypic.com/2yxrqee.png
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction-and-extraction/construction-laborers-and-helpers.htm


So the median across the USA was ~$28k as of 2010. $13.66 per hour. Given that the median in different across different states, it seems plausible that one could make $40k annually in the industry.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:36am On Oct 28, 2012
Ikengawo: lol blue collar work is more respected in the US than white collar work.
So the plumber you call to fix your toilet, the garbage man who picks up your trash and the illegal Mexican guy who mows your lawn in the US is more respected than say a software engineer at Microsoft huh

What on earth are you taking about?

the underdog is the hero in america. These people respect soldiers, farmers, factory workers etc.
People enjoy giving LIP SERVICE to soldiers, farmers, auto workers, etc. It is propaganda. You don't get any special prestige in Yankee for being an auto worker dude.

There are fathers, especially back in the day, that would yell at their sons if their sons wanted to be a banker because as they see it they're not making an 'honest living with their hands'.
Today? In the USA? Do you live in America, or just read about it?


Why do you think John Mccain and Mitt Romney both worked so hard to hide their wealth. John Mccain didn't want the news to report that he had 9 homes. If it was nigeria they would be selling you Tshirts with all 9 of their homes on it.
So that the typical Democrat strategy of painting Republicans as elitists doesn't work? What is so hard to get about this?

Or is Obama also hiding his wealth, bragging about he worked at an ice cream shop as a teenager?
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:29am On Oct 28, 2012
naijaking1: Have you done any project in Nigeria lately?
None personally myself. But my father completed his house in our town recently, and I was there for part of the construction.


I speak from a personal experience constructing a small house in Nigeria. First, the labor rate is almost at par with US, considering the need to continously supervise them, give them 1-2 hours break, and they have 4-6hr work days.
I do agree with you that Nigerian labor is quite annoying in this respect. But...I can assure you that labor costs are far higher in the US for construction.

1) Workman's comp
2) Safety standards, government regulations
3) Minimum wage
etc

Second, if labor work is the only skill they have, why complaint?
So. If you in 2012 are doing the same lowly job your ancestor did in 1812, you would feel no unhappiness or dissatisfaction?

Be honest with yourself. Look, you and I have the luxury of education and skills beyond manual labor. We should try to be a bit more sympathetic to their position.

The idea situation, would be to learn a trade or go to school so that your future would be brighter, instead those people sit there and grumble year-after year.

There's something evil about an unemployed worker who begs, pleads, and applies to work for you, and the first thing that comes to their mind after they settle in an agreed position is to feel "being used"
From that feeling comes all sorts of criminal activities: stealing, vandalizing, sabotage, and even stopping the whole same project they'd begged to be hired for.
I agree with most of this paragraph. But the point is, you should try to understand where they are coming from.

@naijaking1, have you ever had debilitating back pain before? I have. And I suffered this injury in recreation, not from a job. I can imagine how angry and unhappy with my life I'd be if I was in a career where this sort of physical risk was par for the course.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:18am On Oct 28, 2012
Standing5: Bar/club? That's cos they are out to meet the 'highest bidder'.
Hmm...I'm not sure if by 'bar/club' you think I mean a place to pick up prostitutes or something. I mean any social setting where there are single guys and girls.

It does not affect the fact the average American/Non African regards and respect decent hardworking individuals more.

The fact that their politicians are lying tell us infact that Americans regard and see such people (farmers, mechanic etc) as decent and hardworking. It paints a gøod image of the personality in the eyes of Americans. I agree we are not suppose to be doing certain things our Fore-fathers did the exact way they went about it.
I guess that this was addressed by the latter part of my post above.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 9:11am On Oct 28, 2012
onatisi: my guy u are missing the whole point up,noone is disputing the fact that some jobs are better than others,it has alwys been that way,but what the op is saying is that many nigerians that are unemployed will prefer to stay unemployed ,beg or even steal than to do any dirty job or hard labour job all on the excuse that it is suffering,
I am not saying that gainful employment, even in an unskilled labor job is worse than unemployment. But my point is that is only a step up.

And personally, for me? I would much rather kill, steal or become an armed robber than to ruin my back farming in the bush somewhere in Nigeria. Maybe I'm a bad person or something, but that is just me.

but take these same of ppl to another country they will do the job,the money they will be paid their will be of little value in the economy so why cant u do the job here.thtis the op arguement
Do you not get the point that the equivalent manual labor jobs abroad PAY a lot more? That there are minimum wage laws? Possibly health insurance? Workman's comp in case you get injured on the job?

Don't you think there is a big difference making $40k/year in construction in the US and $1k/year doing the same in Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 8:59am On Oct 28, 2012
How many $100 bills will a brick layer be able to stick in any woman's pants?

Of course girls care.

Agreed, not everyone can be a lawyer, accountant, etc. But for those who can only work as laborers, and have to do this in a country like Nigeria where the pay is terrible and the safety standards low, is this something that one should be happy about?

Should anyone be happy doing hoe and cutlass farming in 2012, when their ancestor had the same occupation in 1812?

Let's be reasonable here, and not say that people should be happy about something that is highly unpleasant.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 8:52am On Oct 28, 2012
And the sad thing about these sort of jobs is not only do they physically wear you out, they pay terribly.

In Nigeria, you are competing against a large amount of unskilled labor, there are no minimum wages laws, etc.

At least in yankee, if I'm breaking my back in construction, I'll probably be earning $30-40k/year doing it.

In Nigeria, you won't even make $1000 in a year
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by ektbear: 8:46am On Oct 28, 2012
Harden to Houston.

Cray
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nigerians View Hard Work As 'suffering'? by ektbear: 8:45am On Oct 28, 2012
Ikengawo: In America, jobs that require you to sweat are seen as badges of honor. People brag about working in a factory, lifting bricks, farming etc. They're proud to say they do manly work and a banker is not seen as superior to a farmer.
This is false.

White collar jobs >>>>>>>>>> blue collar jobs.

Visit any bar/club in America, tell 10 girls that you are a mechanic. Then tell another 10 girls you work on wall street...see how your success rate changes.

You never hear candidates in american elections proclaiming their banking credentials, but you'll hear many, if they've had the experience, telling you about their life on the farm because it tells people you're humble, you're hardworking, and you have good values.
Politicians lie all the time. It is propaganda meant to make blue collar folk feel close to them.



Regarding the rest of your post, I think your typical Nigerian is pretty rational. Should he be happy about backbreaking manual labor, the sort of unskilled job his illiterate great grandfather probably did? That is not the sort of thing that makes one proud.
PoliticsRe: Taraba Gov Plane Crash: Thugs Storm Govt House, Sack Deputy Governor by ektbear: 12:25am On Oct 28, 2012
CrazyMan: Nigerian politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason.
grin
RomanceRe: Man Sues Wife For Being Ugly, Wins Lawsuit by ektbear: 12:16am On Oct 28, 2012
[quote author=na2day!][img]http://localtvwghp.files./2012/10/wife-again.jpg?w=402[/img][/quote]Crazy. Plastic surgery is powerful stuff, it seems. Turned a peasant-looking woman into a hottie.
PoliticsRe: A Man Witch Was Caught This Morning As He Plan To Distroy Ozoro With Flood Water by ektbear: 12:07am On Oct 28, 2012
There is something about referring to a male as a witch that I find so fascinating.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by ektbear: 12:03am On Oct 28, 2012
Celtics and Spurs are just too old.

Neither has a real shot imo
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by ektbear: 11:58pm On Oct 27, 2012
[quote author=Mynd_44]Not when the Lakers are packing the beat offensive team this year. But lets wait for the season to start first[/quote]I'm scared of the Lakers...I hope it takes them some time to gel. Or bad chemistry ruins their team.

Lakers and OKC are both scary teams...I am glad that LeBron is in the East cheesy
PoliticsRe: The Average IQ Of Nigeria Is 69 by ektbear: 11:55pm On Oct 27, 2012
My personal belief is that even if the black man is intrinsically less intelligent than other peoples, the difference is not large enough to ruin him. E.g., on the order of 3-5 points.

It is unfortunate that we don't have any successful black nations right now though. That would make things a bit easier for people who believe as I do.
PoliticsRe: 1914 Amalgamation - A Historical Mistake? : Nairaland Political Debate by ektbear: 11:49pm On Oct 27, 2012
Regarding this "largest power in black Africa" argument...a few comments:

1. As others have already stated, this ignores the right to self-determination.

2. Unless this size actually delivers benefit to the nation involved, then what value does it have? Implicitly, this argument relies on the premise that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. But in the case of Nigeria, does anyone actually believe this to be true? There are no special synergies created from us being together. There weren't any in 1914 either.

3. Moreover, can't this argument also be used in favor of merging all of Africa into one country? The US and Canada? All of the world into one nation?

Sometimes bigger isn't really better, when it comes to nation-building.
PoliticsRe: 1914 Amalgamation - A Historical Mistake? : Nairaland Political Debate by ektbear: 11:25pm On Oct 27, 2012
Interesting discussion. Good job, guys.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Had A Chance To Live In The Biblical Times; Who Would You Be? by ektbear: 10:16pm On Oct 27, 2012
Julieccentric: I pity your wish, I think you should ask Lucifer for the genesis of his problems.
Well, he lead a rebellion in order to achieve his goal.

The OP does not say that you have to travel back in time and kill whoever's spot you desire to take...
PoliticsRe: Eze Ndi Igbo Election 2012 - And the winner is ... by ektbear: 6:27am On Oct 27, 2012
I want to congratulate Igbo people on NL as well. You chose well in Odumchi. Even me as a Yoruba guy, he is a guy who seems hard to dislike, no matter how hard one tries cheesy


Very well done.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Had A Chance To Live In The Biblical Times; Who Would You Be? by ektbear: 6:24am On Oct 27, 2012
I would choose to be baba God if I could cheesy
EducationRe: Maths Tricks, Questions And Brain Teasers by ektbear: 2:07am On Oct 27, 2012
What do you mean by midway?
PoliticsRe: The Average IQ Of Nigeria Is 69 by ektbear: 1:36am On Oct 27, 2012
I think that this suggests that IQ tests don't measure intelligence well, then.

Isn't the cutoff for retardation like 70?

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