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lekkie073:
when fans make such mistake of comparing two players in different positions, I expect ppl like u to know better but no, u show u r not so different from the indomie generation reasoning. Smh

lekkie073:
no football u watched dat I did not watch. Oliseh is not better than Mikel obi, kante, carrick, etc.

In fact oliseh is not even in d same category with d above listed.

lekkie073:
twisting don start again
seriously? So u mean oliseh would be rated higher than pogba? I can't believe this!!!

lekkie073:
so why d comparison with pogba in d first place

Victornezzar:
Lol....let champions league do and come ahbeg,....useless arguments everywhere....choi

Oliseh is better than Pogba....just imagine

lekkie073:
what oliseh achieved in his entire career in club football, pogba has surpassed it.

Or r u still of the view that oliseh is better than pogba

And please, oliseh never PLAYED for juventus.
He was just featured

raumdeuter:
Even if I no dey I fit send my man diggz to come represent me. Na you dey yarn correct pass for here.

raumdeuter:
Oliseh play style is not similar to Pogbas. Pogba is box to box, Oliseh is a DM

raumdeuter:
Elamps my man. You suppose invite me come Benin come flex one of these days

lekkie073:
Elampiro comparing oliseh to pogba even before d Frenchman kicked a ball under jose

SailorXY:
what is the meaning of this one again? na wa oo

In fact wetin exactly you mean? name your "big 6" & back it up with substance?

Leyqute:
You've completely missed my point. Pogba wasn't phenomenal last season but he stands a good chance of being a very important player for us this season. That's the reason I compared his stats with Neymar, Suarez and Messi's stats this season.

You don't have to say the only condition for you to praise him is if he starts scoring or assisting goals in every game like Messi or Neymar.

Furthermore, you've been defending Rooney since ages past even when we all know he's been awful. Can you compare Rooney's stats with the world beaters'?

joeace2020:
No wonder you like Trump.. Argument for another day.

joeace2020:
And therein lies your problem. It's not about winning an argument, but facing facts and truths. Yes i do believe you rated Pogba highly.. even the screen shots show that but you were also quoted as saying "Pogba is the one being shitty". This you said, was screenshot and shown to all but you vehemently denied ever calling him that. That shocked me to be honest. Something everyone with an eye was seeing. Sometimes you just have to agree to facts wether they demean your "i can't be wrong" persona or not. You as well as many here did indeed criticize Pogba extensively when he was playing poorly. No one holds that against you because we are doing same or worse with Mikitaryan and Lindelof at the moment and someday in the future someone might be digging out our posts when we start calling the "best in the league". Every fan does this, why are you worked up over having done it?

Must you have the last laugh?
Must you win the argument?

Mystic1:
Elampiro and claiming the last glory sha.
I remember when it was Martials case. Elampiro claimed to have believed in him from unset whereas screenshot showed uniquegem trying to convince him. No quote me oo

Leyqute:
It is interesting how a discussion about cutting Lindelof some slack owing to his below-par performance on Saturday turned to what it is at the moment.

Everyone here did slam Pogba last season at one time or the other, Elampiro included. There's no need denying this. He was actually mediocre in a number of matches in months towards the end of the year but the quality he brings to the table was there for all to see. However, this season he's improved much, creating, assisting and scoring goals. Dude's got 6 goals and assists in 5 EPL games.



Messi has 12 goals and 3 assists in 12 league games this season. Neymar has 6 goals, 5 assists in 13 league appearances this season. Suarez has had 5 goals and an assist in 9 La Liga games this season. Ronaldo's own is even worse. All these players are strikers.

There's no need over-criticizing one of your own. It is obvious that Pogba will perform much better this season than last season. Expecting him to score/assist more than strikers surrounded by fantastic team mates is just wrong. Even KevinDB's 3 goals and 6 assists in 12 games can't match Neymar or Messi's stats for the season.

lekkie073:
u asked me. Am I a player valuer? Ppl r giving opinions about price and all u can do is to ask for one party's opinion in order to form urs. U go sabi girrafe person work when u dey school o
who did u 'said' it to
by cohorts I take it to mean >90% of the fans here because when it comes to Rooney, na only u waka come

u started scrutnizing d price even before the fee was paid. So the above is a pure lie.
thank God u can do some self-diagnosis

elrony:
Glad Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie can get further interpretation from an independent jury

elrony:
Don't test my tolerance Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie.

At the bolded: is that you making a defense for your cause?...

I hereby call on the plaintiff Mr Lekkie073 of Ikate Elegushi.

dopeJemi:
wrong, you saying ibrahimovic is slow and can't go one on one with a defender or Martial can't do a long distance run with the ball is a general assessment of the players not just on current form, C'mon now, how can you even say it is based on current form, you didn't include any anything to make it look like you were talking of current form

you sef dey listen to the things you say sometimes

elrony:
One more Raumdeuter-ing and I'll have you bundled out of this court room.

"Shiity" was found to be relevant in both the evidence presented and the further allegations levelled against you.

I'll advise you to make a case for yourself on some grounds you might want to hold on to. It's a fair trial.

Buh as for "shiity player".. it's already called in.

What else do you have to say for yourself sir?

elrony:
Silence!!!!!

Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie, firstly let me warn you that in trying to challenge the law and disrupt proceedings you risk being charged with contempt of court, do not make your case more difficult for yourself sir! I will not have any backflip and raumdeuter-ing in my court!!!

A statement is a statement as long as it is on the premise of a subject.

If on Wednesday you say "Funlord is mad" and next two weeks you say "Funlord is sane" ..It doesn't change the fact that you labelled him "Mad".

It is that simple and verifiable.

You called one Paul Pogba a "Lazy player" , yes you did!!!

Or do you mean the evidence provided b4 the court lacks credibility?

funlord:
This is the absolute truth....they both have degrees in senseless amalanomics and take being wrong when discussing football as some sort of death sentence! I can't believe what I'm reading.... Tufiakwa

lekkie073:
the only difference between elampiro and raum is d club each supports.aside that, they r twins mentally .

elrony:
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!!

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:

Oasis007:


After listening to the Defence of the Accused, this Court is convinced that the Accused ain't guilty of the Allegations charged against him by the Plaintiff.

Thus..... here is my Judgment; he, elampiro, is hereby acquitted of all the Charges.

elampiro:

I don't understand the hate for Rooney. The guy played well.

Mkhitaryan will have his time, the season is very long. I actually struggled to see Mkhitaryan on the pitch until injury time and when Southampton had no hope of coming into the game again.

Pogba is money well spent.

I like Bailly's jumping power, but there is some areas he need to mature.

Valencia and Shaw always tucked in while we are defending with Mata and Martial covering the wide for them. Not too sure we did fine with it, but it was okay to put plenty bodies in the box.

Fellaini was good again. But together with Pogba and Rooney, we will need to 'charge' the opponents harder.

elampiro:

Jamie Carragher analysed Paul Pogba's Manchester derby performance on Monday Night Football, describing his first-half display as "ill-disciplined".

Carragher said Pogba's positioning throughout the first half left his midfield team-mate exposed to David Silva and Kevin De Bruyne, who impressed as City grabbed the initiative before holding on for victory.

"I don't think it was so much that Pep Guardiola got it massively right than Jose Mourinho got it tactically wrong," Carragher said.

"He wasn't helped by the performance of his players - he subbed two at half-time - but specifically the performance of Paul Pogba.

"For a central midfielder in a game of that magnitude, I think for the first 40 minutes it was one of the most ill-disciplined performances you will see.
"The only way to describe it was like watching the best player in the schoolyard that runs where he wants and does what he wants.

"Five minutes into a Manchester derby, when you know the centre of the pitch is so important to stopping Man City, he finds himself in a left-wing role trying to receive the ball.
"I never thought I'd say this, but I felt so sorry for Fellaini. He was left on his own in the centre of the pitch and there was so much space [for Man City].

"Pogba has cost what he has cost and he has done what he has done, he's not a kid. He is 23. You find yourself looking at situations where Man Utd are leaving acres of space in the most important part of the pitch against a Pep Guardiola team.
"His job, when you are playing in a two in midfield, is to be disciplined, especially against Silva and De Bruyne. It is either he has got it wrong or Mourinho has given him licence to do what he wants and that is wrong."
Carragher and fellow Monday Night Football analyst Phil Neville also discussed how Man Utd can get the best out of Pogba in the future, with the pair agreeing a three-man midfield is necessary for big games.
"I have criticised Pogba for his performance, but he has great talent and abilities," Carragher added.
"I wouldn't say you would ever build a team around one man, but if you've spent that much money, I think if you are picking your team, you say, 'Where are we getting the best out of him?' Then others can work around that.
www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10575854/jamie-carragher-breaks-down-paul-pogbas-manchester-derby-performance

elampiro:

If everyone is fit, we should line up like this:

........................ DDG

Jones/Bailly.. Bailly/Jones.. Chris... Shaw

................ Herrera/Carrick

..... Valencia.................. Pogba

.......... Mkhitaryan/Mata/Rooney

............Ibrahimovic..... Rashford/Martial


Or


........................ DDG

Jones/Bailly.. Bailly/Jones.. Chris... Shaw

................ Herrera/Carrick

.... ... Valencia.................. Pogba


Mkhitaryan ........Ibrahimovic..... Martial

The idea will be to utilize Valencia to his fullest, very close to what he does for Ecuador. He will offer energy, pace and protection to the midfield. He helps out defence and carries the ball forward fast either through the middle or in the wing.

Even if Valencia overlaps, our defence shape will be intact with Jones pinning the right back.

Pogba will finally be free to express himself while Valencia and Herrera cover his mess. Pogba is given more licence to adventure forward.

Blind fights for the left back position. Rooney, Rashford and Mata fight for the forward roles.

With this we will be hard to beat, and we will easily beat the small teams.

elampiro:
Pogba did well today. He was position conscious. He did well going forward. He created chances for Ibrahimovic.

elampiro:
The potential is there. He will do well. But let him keep it simple and play with the team.