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tess1:
I can't just understand how somebody will say RVP didn't win us the EPL in 2012/13. Most of his goals were crucial goals for us to win or draw.

*His first game at Old Trafford was against Fulham who took an early before RVP scored to equalize before we went ahead to win the match.

*Against Southampton who took lead twice at 1 - 0 and 2 - 1. RVP scored a hat-trick to win the match 3 - 2 late despite losing a penalty earlier in the game.

*Against Liverpool, RVP scored the penalty that won the game 2 - 1.

*Against Chelsea at the Bridge, RVP's shot made Luiz score an own-goal before RVP scored the second. We won the match 3-2.

*Against Arsenal, RVP scored the first goal. Rooney missed a penalty but we won the match 2-1 with Evra scoring the winner.

*Against Westham, RVP scored the only goal to win 1 - 0 away.

*RVP score a goal which was the winning goal in 4 - 3 away win against Reading. Rooney scored two goals (One penalty) It was this game that made Man Utd to establish three points gap ahead of Man City.

*Against Man City, Rooney Scored two early goals, City leveled up. RVP scored a stoppage time deflected free kick to win the game 3 - 2, the team established a 6-points lead ahead of Man City and ended City's almost two years unbeaten run at home...............

These are his goals during that season.

Dadehmola:
Elampiro (The Good-joe), wetin you dey find for here again?

Ignaz:
can you tell me why fergie signed him in the first place? tell me the result in the match before he was signed

Ignaz:
you love argument! Nani and val and young were having a poor season yet kagawa is the cause? wow! what analysis!

funlord:



Spy360 is right! Stop embarrassing yourself mate and look down!


m.bbc.com/sport/football/22259910

news.sky.com/story/1081844/ferguson-praises-van-persies-impact



Or maybe you are practising to become a lawyer? If so god help you!!!

elrony:
elamps I wouldn't be quoting you if u did make a reasonable array of statements. ..

how can a striker who was signed to score goals and possibly get us points (which he did... topping the charts), and contributed to winning the league be said to have destroyed the team structure? ??

what structure are you even talking about

Man City leapfrogged us to the title , courtesy of goals or have u forgotten? ??...

so what are you now saying bro

Spy360:
Guy, without RvP, Man Utd would not have won the title. It was very obvious, even Fergie admitted it.

Unless of course you just wanna argue.

Ignaz:
so in the matches that kagawa didn't feature in, assists came? is this how you do your analysis? van persie was almost reaching his end and fergie wanted a one touch, one goal striker. what did Costa do outside the box for Chelsea? a striker's duty is to score and rvp did that to the best of his abilities. take away his goals and you'll find united languishing in the second half of the table.

funlord:
Do you know the meaning of INFLUENCE at all? You were trying to belittle RVP's influence in winning the league! I now dropped a dime on you on how other equally influential players including those of even 'your team' have also scored under 26 goals and won the league by being the stand out performers in their squads and you are busy flogging and beating around the bush with this your reply?

Is a team made yp of 1 individual? Were you arguing about the teams effort or RVP's? You need to sue every school you have ever been to! Seriously!

chidexxy007:
oga this one n lie oooo... chei.
we lost the league the previous season on goals difference. The plan was to outscore our opponents and their was no other way than to hijack the best striker/hottest striker in the land as at then to the ones already on ground..
RVP's signing was a stitch in time.... Remember d game against West ham?..
Mancini even said RVP was the difference that season, dude won us games we would have lost or drawn the previous campaign.

Ignaz:
can you explain this more? bring facts. like when ronaldo scored 17 goals or so
remind me who won the league and who got golden boot



common sense should tell you that the absence of Paulie exposed the team's defense a bit. what's the difference between 86 & 89
just 3 goals and rvp is the cause? didn't you see the problem came from the back?

funlord:
A list of a few influential players who won the league with less than 26 goals!



"Dwight Yorke: Manchester United 18 goals [1998-99]


Thierry Henry: Arsenal 24 goals [2001-02]



Ruud van Nistelrooy: Manchester United 25 goals [2002-03]"



I guess you just made your latest "pointless analogy!"

AdeLaNa1:
His goal drught doesn't change the fact that we won d league solely bcoz of RVP's goals. SAF's plan dat season was to get the ball to RVP and ensure we scored more than the opponents. How many matches did we win 2-1, 3-2 & 4-3?? With RVP not having a hand in at least one of those goals?? I still cant forget dat boxing day match against Newcastle at OT(4-3)!!

elrony:
yea... Rooney was Damn awesome in 2011/12 (I wish he can just show half of that currently)....
RVP still outscored him sha... (total EPL season goals) .

my question is how did RVP destroy Man United structure? ( according to you ). ..

just explain that to me with validity.

PietroRico:
Nyabinghi and elampiro on rampage

Na situations like this dey Make me miss coogar

AdeLaNa1:
RVP was the reason we won d league dat season. He was one of the most clinical finishers in Europe dat season alone.
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AdeLaNa1:
Was it his freekick against City?? Or his hattrick against Southampton?? Or his goals against Liverpool?? Or his goal against Reading?? etc....
He might be an oppourtunist. But he came at the right time to win us our 20th title.

Danhumprey:
elamps dey busy offline compiling stats to come flood this thread with.



nyabinghi just dey display a hybrid of madness.


i wish coogar were here. he just know how to handle them both.

elrony:
bro, I'm not up for any Rooney vs Anybody argument. ... I loved the "real Rooney with the no 8 jersey" not this current lazy impostor!

I was only correcting elampiro's blasphemous notion. ...

This same injury ravaged Robin flew higher than Wazza in the same EPL with back to back golden boots...

He came to United "an ageing ninja" and still pooed on our dear United god. .. He stole the "trident" from "fat poseidon".

Rooney maybe might have more goals and trophies than van persie. .. buh he ain't gonna get a FIFA world cup medal. ...
deal with it homie

elrony:
RVP an opportunist, according to you !(got the job done)....

Bro, how did RVP destroy man United structure? (by out scoring everybody in the whole EPL and being asset towards our league winning campaign?) .... I guess you are implying that Fergie was a dunderhead for signing him then....

RVP was signed because our "assumed threat" in front of goal (Rooney) wasn't productive as he used to be. .. Fergie couldn't trust Rooney to deliver anymore! !! #truth!

Elampiro you can make sense sometimes, but when you wan yan Opata u tend to skyrocket the damn thing!

MrLouisVanGaal:
Elampiro reminds of those noisemakers in class who despite being moved from their noise making crew to another corner of the class will either infect the quiet people in their corner or start throwing paper at their crew as if to say i still dey with una in spirit. Dude must miss coogar so very much. Elampiro i know you and coogar do talk... Wats happening to coog, i hope that girl was just fooling around then and he isn't being bent over somewhere in Alcatraz oo

SailorXY:
I agree LvG's methods has made the team impotent. The urgency the team show these days are forced cuz they fear backlash from the OT faithfuls & I sense a couple of players & perhaps Giggs have been urged to deviate from the "philosophy" somewhat!
Where the problem lies now as far as I'm concerned is team selections & substitutions. The set up that I can bet my azz will be guaranteed victory 95% of the time they step onto the pitch in the EPL even with his philosophy is not rocket science but it seem a jagged puzzle to the gaffer.

Where I don't agree tho is saying RvP didn't win the last EPL title for Man United. He was head & shoulders above every other player that season.

chrisley024:
hahaha. So it's now by offsides when we know Chicha can cop more offsides in a game than some strikers do in 5 games. Maybe Val, Nani and Evra also played more forward going by your logic. Fact remains he has played majorly as a striker in a 4-4-2 under Fergie and my conclusion is he cannot be depended on as the focal point(doesn't mean CF) in our attack. End of this discussion from me.

weedtaker:
okay lets just agree that he [berba] failed us that season, but the nxt season [2010/11] berba won us the league with his golden boot winning 21league goals, how many wey rooney don win for us?

chrisley024:
Lame excuse. So how did he score all those goals '09/10? No one is disputing the fact he wasn't an integral part of our attack.

The fact is why we were shouting for the reinforcement of the midfield, Fergie, knowing he'd go trophyless again with Rooney as the point man in attack, took a big risk by paying a huge fee for an old injury prone striker. He Knew he needed more goals to win the title. Unless you now know better than him then you should replace LvG.

weedtaker:
ere is usually no strong person to do all the laborious work behind him as he did for others. The support is usually weak. But he supports others well when playing behind. and the only season chicha and berbertov sparehead our attack, we won our 19league title, berba even won de golden boot that season, rooney should bury his head in shame.

SailorXY:
so who is blocking Rooney now? I still observed from highlights of the last game Martial playing right wing, so why is Sir Rooney not scoring?