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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:11pm On Jan 03, 2016
lekkie073:
Valid point.....but for every smalling, there is a vidic....
Its just d right blend of local and import dat guarantees a solid team.

No big club can survive on locals alone...
We need a quick fix. Local players will not need to adapt to the rhythm of EPL.

Foreign players aren't ruled out when available. Quality ones.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:51pm On Jan 03, 2016
patrickmuf:
You're making a case against overseas players and your best bet is Herrera and Martial who overseas import, bravo!
Young apart from the last match against swansea has been a big disappointment everywhere he has played bar the left wing...
If we do an analysis of Overseas and EPL players, you'd realize the local buys have hardly fared better...
But Luke Shaw was out best player before he got injured. Schederline is also a local buy. The local buy might not be so great, but the league isn't strange to them.

If we spent the kind of money we used in bringing players like Di Maria, Martial to source locally, we could get even better players.

You were quick to mention Young who is from the old boys, yet you left out Smalling. Going back you would remember Yorke and Cole who were sourced locally. Cantona, Kean, Rooney, Ferdinand, Carrick. On won't even mention those who came through Academy.

The situation we are now, local buy should help us better. No much adjustment needed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:55pm On Jan 03, 2016
Areas we should address.

1. Our transition of the the ball is too slow. Before we get to final third, our opponents would already have regrouped. We need a forward moving player like Sanchez.

2. Our defence. We need to add at least one more defender. May be we should have left Evans as a squad.

3. Scoring.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:28pm On Jan 03, 2016
weedtaker:
what about wijnaldum of newcastle?
Not monitored him before.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:27pm On Jan 03, 2016
weedtaker:
i don't fancy all dis abroad buys, we should just get the tested n trusted ones, mahrez won't cost more than 25mil, he has 13goals nd 7assist dis season Playing counter attacking football, 25mil would be a steal make we no dull abeg.
I agree. We should solidify our team with best players in EPL then we can upgrade on them later from outside. Mane is already used to the EPL. He has balance on the ball even under tight marking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:25pm On Jan 03, 2016
Instead having no signings at all, we should buy Mane. Once transfer window closes, we will begin to discover again how thin the squad is, and how we lack players that can make things happen.

Sterling
Martial
Mane
Nani

These are the kind of players that are capable of doing something from nothing in the final third when a match becomes deadlock, or when opposition park the bust.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:10pm On Jan 03, 2016
weedtaker:
we'd that type of player in di maria, but van gaal messed things up, do you know any available player who does dat?
Not really. Letting Maria go was a mistake. Arsenal are lucking to have Sanchez.

We need some players who can turn defensive situations swiftly to an attack in the final third.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
patrickmuf:
He can definitely carry the ball forward but the end product is definitely lacking, Tadic and Mahrez can see the pass and they're potential goal scorers much more than Mane...
Overall, the quality of good players has really dropped for us here to be fixated on Mane, Mahrez, Tadic etc
I just spent about an hour watching Mane's clips on YouTube. One clip has all his touches and movements against Chelsea. I think he wouldn't pass as one to carry the ball forward with such pace like Giggs, Valencia, Young and Nani provided. He's very good in utilizing spaces in the final third with accelerations and turning similar to that of Martial. His speed is also not consistent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:54pm On Jan 03, 2016
dopeJemi:
You right, but we also need an upgrade on valencia, we need a winger who can outpace his marker and cross the ball and can also cut in and strike, sadio mane is that guy, not only does he have pace and power, he can also score.... we can make do with Tadic too but mahrez? he's good no doubt but he lacks that power we require on the left wing, that's why I miss valencia
I don't think Mane plays like Val. Mane is very explosive in the final third. Sometimes he's not consistent with his speed. He can turn fast like Martial with a good balance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:50pm On Jan 03, 2016
patrickmuf:
Mane isn't good enough for us, i'd rather have us go for Mahrez or Tadic who have better footballing brains...Another good player out there is that Anderson look alike in Westham utd
Mane is Sterling 0.7

He still has to develop his game. But I like his balance. I think he's more of a Wing Forward than a traditional winger who could use the flanks to provide width. He's played more as an AMC (in the hole) this season.

It appears he thrive more in the final third, but not one to rely on to carry the ball forward with speed from our own half, something I think we also desperately need.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:22am On Jan 03, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Of what use to us is a player who cant stay fit for more dan 3 wks at a time??
It happens. Raphael had similar issues.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:39am On Jan 03, 2016
JayKayMaybachz:
angryElamps no gree us hear word again ... mtchrrreeeew
What are you saying? Show me what I have posted today that warrants this your statement.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:38am On Jan 03, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
If this is true, then Jones should be given away to Charity. We dont need such negative players at United. Dint he just come back from a lengthy injury like last week??
Jones doesn't have a fresh injury, it's same injury that's been affecting him. That's what Gaal said. It just refused to permanently. Perhaps the reason Gaal has been introducing gradually.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:19pm On Jan 02, 2016

Defensively Yaya Toure had a good game today. He stopped two counter attacks even when two Watford forwards were up against him. I was shocked to see Toure did that, not once but twice.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:13pm On Jan 02, 2016

Blind was very terrible today. He just cannot defend, no pace at all. He committed a foul close to the box in a ball that he should he have taken with ease. Even in added time, he single handedly put us in bad situations at least twice.

We need another center back to join Smalling and Jones. McNair seemed nervous. Darmian didn't really cover well.

Young performance on the right should tell Van Gaal why we need to play a fast natural winger there. After our goal we got into the opposition box like 4 tines within 5 minutes. That's how it should be. We created many chances and had many shots today.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:04pm On Jan 02, 2016
Opta, and all the websites that sourced from it got the match formation wrong. In the future when I would be saying this wasn't the formation, people would gang up against me.

Zonal Marking doesn't make this kind of mistake.

Christianity Etc › Re: Apostle Johnson Suleman's 2016 Prophecies by elampiro(m): 1:34pm On Jan 01, 2016
modath:
Jonathan was not reelected, Ngeria did not burn & Mallam is KD state governor contrary to his 2015 postulations So the one for 2016 he can shove up his rectum!! cool


American president seeking for a 3rd term in the 21st century!!! huh Fake fake fake!!
It looks to me Apostle Suleman copied from an American Prophet, John Leary.

Thursday, October 29, 2015:
Jesus said: “My people, you have heard the talking points for both political sides, and it will be hard to pare down all the candidates to only one on each side. This could be another crucial election in 2016. In an older message I mentioned the possibility of a cancelled election. If your current President wants to call a martial law, you could see no election at all, as you would have a dictator leading you into the North American Union. Beware of this possibility because you would have to come to My refuges as a result. Pray for My protection from such a takeover of America.”

Thursday, November 5, 2015
Jesus said: “My people, this election has brought more laws in your states that are accepting euthanasia and marijuana. You have abortion and same sex marriage already on your books, and now your evil laws are getting worse with each year. Your laws, that are against My laws, are only bringing My justice faster against your country, as well as a worse punishment. You will see your disasters increase in number and severity. Pray for the souls in America, because the evil around you is growing worse.”

Tuesday, September 22, 2015:
Jesus said: “My people, you have many hot spots of possible conflict in Korea, Ukraine, and the Middle East. The evil ones want to draw America into another conflict, and there are several places that this could happen. Some possible terrorist attacks in America could cause a reaction to attack ISIS. The one world people are planning some events to draw America into another conflict. They are also planning an internal situation that will trigger a call for martial law. I have told you before that I will send My Warning experience to everyone before your lives will be threatened in the coming Christian persecution in America. Be prepared after the Warning, when you will be called to My refuges for protection from the men in black who want to kill you. Trust in My protection during the coming chaos in your streets.”

Tuesday, November 24, 2015: (St. Andrew and Vietnamese companions)Prayer Group:
Jesus said: “My people, you have a precarious war going on where Russia is supporting Assad, and their planes are attacking the rebels against Assad. America is defending the rebels and attacking Syrian troops and ISIS terrorists. With two superpowers defending opposite sides, you have a danger of a wider war. When Turkish pilots used American made jets to shoot down a Russian jet in Turkish airspace, you now could see more repercussions from Russia. Please pray that these incidents do not trigger a more serious conflict.”

Thursday, December 10, 2015:
Jesus said: “My people, you are seeing Russia bombing mostly the rebels against Assad, and very little, if any, against the ISIS fighters. America is supporting Iraq, the rebels, and even the Kurds. There is a plan to add more weapons and some ground troops to direct your own planes who are bombing ISIS elements. There is some concern that this war could expand because it is hard to determine who is fighting against who. Russia and America seem to be supporting opposite sides, so your countries could be fighting each other in the future. Keep praying for peace in this unsettled war.”

www.johnleary.com
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John Leary is an American and a Catholic. His many messages have come to pass over the years since 1990s. Their are some too that didn't happen, or didn't follow the time line given. Some of the things he said in the 1990s that didn't make sense are becoming real. Like since 1990s he has had messages about chip in the body, one world governance and control. At first some argue that the microchip technology didn't exist. He has for over the decades been telling how religious liberty will be taken away and moral laws unturn, and he appeared to pin this on Obama as the person that would do these things. We have seen homosexual legalized under Obama, and US business owners pay heavy fine when they refuse to bake cake in gay marriage when consulted. He correctly warned the American govt against a possible terrorist attack in 2001.

Back to topic. It looks to me Apostle Suleman reads this man's messages ( or has recently been following his prophecies). I
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:54pm On Dec 31, 2015
Eruditor:
Crystallized hogwash.

1. I assure you more midfielders will have this attribute more than strikers. Frank Lampard will have more of this than CR7 and Messi put together.

2. Also more midfielders will have this. Mikel will have more passes completed. It is a given.

3. Hahahaha, the very 2011/2012 stats say RVP completed more dribbles than Rooney.

Note: Aguero was in city, yet Roberto Mancini famously said that United won the league because they got RVP (a player City had fought so hard to get and even outbidded United for)
Please don't bring up already trashed issues. We have already compared strikers against strikers. Where were you when I did the comparison of Rooney, Suarez, RVP? Whoscored also already told us their style of play. 2011/2012, RVP was playing for Arsenal, so I don't get it. On dribbles, Rooney once done 2.3 per game, something RVP never got close to.

I also have addressed the issue of RVP not winning the league for us in 2012/2013 with stats and facts, if you didn't join the debate then forget it. Am I going to be debating with new people everyday on same issues? Whoscored computer generated style of play has already settled this issue sef.

I am in the Church, and it’s my very last post on the subject.



Happy new year.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:00pm On Dec 31, 2015
tess1:
You call RVP a hyena because of the bold.

Now, in 2011/12 season when RVP was still at Arsenal as their top striker he had 1.1 successful dribble per match while Rooney who you said played from the midfield had 1 successful dribble per match. Meaning RVP as a top striker had more successful dribble than Rooney who played from the midfield as you always say. Who now has low dribbling skill and who is now the hyena?

Another interesting observation in that 2011/12 season was that RVP as the top striker for Arsenal created 2.4 key passes per game while Rooney whom you said played from the midfield or as a number 10 created 1.5 key passes which is lower than RVP. Who between the two was supposed to create more key passes? How can a hyena be creating more key passes than a supposed midfielder or number 10?

One more thing was that a supposed hyena had more assists than Rooney in that same year.

I know you'll come out with another twist as usual.
There are three stats mainly:

1.*shots from outside the box
2. number of Passes per match
3. Dribbling

I told you you have to look at their over all seasons. Not one season.

However, whoscored had settled it all. I haven't time to go through this anymore.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:44pm On Dec 31, 2015
Leyqute:
At least RVP has won the golden boot in his footballing career. Rooney has won zilch. Rooney at best should be used as a squad player at the moment. I appreciate his efforts for the team all through the years though.


Seasons' greetings.
Same to you.

Don't get me wrong on RVP. I know his abilities. However, Rooney has his own awards. I don't want to go into further debates for now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:23pm On Dec 31, 2015
I so much like Aguero. I always wished we bought him, right from his U-20 world cup. Initially I thought he would be nearly as good as Messi.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
chrisley024:
it's no more about traveling with the ball. All these you're yarning are just in revenge of RvP being credited with winning the epl for United.

Most strikers score tap ins. Even Messi and Ronaldo scored more of that. It's about good movement and good finishing. It becomes a tap in goal when it's scored. Rooney has had his like ones against Chelsea and Spurs but missed both.
No, Rooney has not had a tap in like the one RVP scored against Chelsea at 35th minute of that match in the clip provided by Dayo.

Did you see the chance RVP missed on the 12th minute mark, it was easier than what Rooney missed against Chelsea on Monday. Both were crosses, but RVP had no one close to him and the goal keeper was at the other end of the post. Go and review that clip again, few pages back.

Rooney or any United player has not had a situation this season where a player pass the ball past the goalkeeper and there is just an empty net to score. No United player has had the chance to score an empty net from a soft layed pass. This is why we are among the least in big chances created or big chances scored or big chances missed. When you score simple goals, there's the tendency to get your confidence boosted for harder chances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:52pm On Dec 31, 2015
Dadehmola:
If that's your understanding , then your foolishness is well and truly beyond redemption.

The only unfortunate thing is that blindness seems to have been added to your numerous problems.

Seek help fast.

Ntor!

I have exposed the opportunist hyena RVP.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
chrisley024:
Lol. Smh. When everyone knows RvP is now finished or you think you argue with kids here? Roll out that of 2012/2013.
Compare him with Rooney who are both playing badly. The qualities listed are their attributes, three or four years ago they could get 'very strong' on those attributes. The style of play doesn't change too much. If at all, only one or two more attributes to both, like free kicks. Rooney would have dribbling and tackling.

Are you saying Chicharito is also finished? Chicha and RVP play alike somewhat.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48am On Dec 31, 2015
This argument is officially over. See you on match day. God is great!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:37am On Dec 31, 2015
Even Benzema posses a counter attack threat.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34am On Dec 31, 2015
This is for Ronaldo and Messi.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:30am On Dec 31, 2015
This is for Suarez.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28am On Dec 31, 2015
Dadehmola:
Mehn...this gringo is truly deluded.

A player's strengths were listed, you are here talking about "very strong". How does that negate the fact that his qualities contradict the hyena nonsense you have been chatting since??

Dem swear for you??



You are trully silly beyond redemption...

If he's a hyena like you foolishly claimed, why does he even consider the option of laying off numerous chances for team mates instead of shooting on goal to score and cement his hyena status like inzaghi and co?? How can assists be synonymous with a CF hyena?

Your Footballing Orientation needs a reconfig!



Why should I do your job for you??

You talked about assists, didn't you??

Let's see the numbers and please - post your source make you take your own hand rubbish your argument yourself.

Yes the qualities said he's an hyena.

Whoscored gave the players strength, weakness and style of play as calculated in players domestic league stats for this season and last. Only Chicharito had something in common with RvP. Only one item in style of play.

This argument is now over

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36am On Dec 31, 2015
diggz:
Going by this your logic can we also conclude C.Ronaldo to be one of the hyena's?
CR7? Someone who goes deep even into his own half to take the ball singlehandedly 50-60 yards into the bar line? Someone who dribbles and scores solo goals? He's opposite of an hyena. He's a hunter, a killer, etc.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:32am On Dec 31, 2015
Dadehmola:
Rvp doesn't drift and drop deep??

Elampiro..stop embarassing yourself on a public forum.



Drogba is also a hyena??

All hail elampiro the great analyst.



Stop being stone - headed and be reasonable for once. ..

From your description of "hyena" (and the inzaghi example), you are telling us about a player who feeds of chances created by team mates and mistakes by opponents in the box.

I ask again - how would Rvp the "hyena" benefit from situations like this when he is outside the box taking deliveries with the intention of assisting??



I await your stats..
You are going round circles because you are bereft of ideas. I have given you the correct answers the only thing I owe you is the stats of Messi and Ronaldo.

RVP that hates playing outside his 'zone', that hate other players going to his 'zone'. Where has any one said that before in Manchester United or in Europe?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:13am On Dec 31, 2015

Dadehmola, see you much later. May be the afternoon or even night.

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