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sinizia:
I don't even know the benchmark or requirement Goal used to draw up those stats, all I know is that Gaal making Rooney an out-and-out striker is a disaster. Rooney needs a good striking partner. I pray he scores tons of goals or else we go hear am wellu wellu this season.

sinizia:
https://u.goal.com/1903400/1903442.jpg

A stark reality that Gaal couldn't or refused to see. How Plato decided to stick with Rooney with all these shocking facts available to him beats my imagination. If Rooney doesn't improve for us, we are doomed. We can't bank on Martial to deliver the goods for us. He's unproven.

coogar:
so stop asking me to go and pay tribute to rooney.
#caseclosed

coogar:
of course.....you discovered neymar.
you are the first nigerian to ever know about neymar. we hadn't heard of
him until you arrived on NL. you got jokes!

what has your support for neymar gotta do with the fact that rooney is shyte?
so you want me to celebrate 50 goals in 107 games and turn a blind eye to a 23 year old
forward that has scored 46 goals in just 5 years for brazil?

continue to celebrate mediocrity....
na people like you dey kill ram because they managed to buy an i-phone.



nope!
this is about battle-rap.

coogar:
how can you have time for back and forth argument when your lies have been exposed.
rooney played in several qualifying games for euro 2008 where he was practically useless. teams like israel, macedonia, russia, etc sodomised rooney. had england won any of those games, they woulda qualified before the last game against croatia.



the only once in a generation player that has never been in the top 3 players in ballon d'or. even english players like owen and bobby charlton have made it. messi is extremely generous with his comments....I am sure he's laughing his arse off now. rooney? once in a generation player? there are thousands of players better than rooney.



pay should be proportional to performance.....not according to how much the club can afford.
is rooney's performance worth £300,000 per week?



i never knew your half-filled calabash still functions.
the same calabash where you saw roy keane playing in a champions league final and messi's foot getting clipped by hargreaves.



no one gives a damn about rooney on this island.
there are more pressing issues bothering britain now than a striker that took 13 years to score 50 goals for his country. the british public are starting to wake up that rooney is a failure when barney ronay(guardian sports pundit) revealed in his article that neymar wey don born yesterday has 46 goals in 67 games for brazil.

neymar is 23....had his debut for brazil in 2010 and he's only 4 goals behind rooney that had his england debut as far back as 2003. even a goat knows rooney's record is a disgrace.......and you actually think messi meant what he said about rooney being a once in a generation player? what should we say about neymar then? by the time neymar is 30, he would have scored around 100 goals for brazil.

once in a generation player? more like once in a generation fat greedy pig.



i'd rather celebrate neymar.
a 23 year old forward who has already scored 46 goals for brazil. he's 7 years younger than rooney and he's only 4 goals away from eclipsing rooney. neymar had his debut only 5 years ago. it means that youngster averages more than 9 international goals per year for brazil. what a glorious achievement! like i continue to tell you, i don't celebrate mediocrity like you do. my standard is way higher than yours.

coogar:
he has never done that for england in the world cup. he always played as a striker.



this is a lie....
ronaldo never played in the middle for portugal at the world cup. almeida, postiga and eder all started as their main striker with ronaldo/nani occupying the wings. james rodriguez played in the hole just behind guitterez for colombia. a number-10 who has a good shot on him will score goals. ronaldo will find it extremely hard to score from a wide position unlike players who mostly operate in a central position. football is not math.....as you can see, you could only name players who mostly play in central positions.



it was because of rooney's poor form that made roy hodgson relegate him to the wing in the first place.
by then, half of britain didn't even want him in the starting XI. how can a striker that earns a staggering
£300k/week get upstaged by a rookie known as sterling? of course, rooney's poor form meant england were
doomed from the outset. as at 2014, Liverpool(the parent club of sturridge/sterling) hadn't even played in
the champions league for aeons.



england lost against italy.
why is that information missing in your diatribe? balotelli - a bench player for liverpool scored and
mr rooney fluffed his lines again in a big game. costa rica that you deemed as the weakest team topped the
group with 7 points. it appears you don't actually remember what happened in that group.



england weren't poor in 2010 and 2012. rooney's poor form was the koko.
rooney had scored 34 goals that season for man utd and everyone thought england's golden era
was before us until fat rooney ruined it for hi country again. england was booed in virtually all
the games they played in the group. they couldn't even beat algeria in 2010 world cup and they
got quartered by germany's under-21 boys.



lies upon lies.-
rooney played the qualifiers of euro 2008. he played in russia and england lost.
rooney played in israel and england couldn't even score. rooney played in croatia and
england lost. rooney also started against macedonia at wembley in another goalless draw.
so how can you say rooney's injury in the last game against croatia in wembley was the reason england did
not qualify?

abeg......england didn't qualify cos rooney is shyte!

coogar:
except that rooney is a striker for the 3 lions, ronaldo is a winger for portugal.
and we are talking about ronaldo who is the best player for his country shunted wide. rooney has more quality players around him for country than ronaldo does for club. it only takes a lack of form for ronaldo for portugal to collapse. england has proven time and time again that they are better off without rooney. it's only when rooney goes back to the team that england crashes out of tournaments apart from euro 2004 when he was by far the best player in the tournament.

world cup 2006....rooney ruined it for england.
euro 2012......rooney ruined it for england.
world cup 2010....rooney ruined it for england.
world cup 2014....rooney ruined it for england.



rooney woulda been sent back to the midfield when it took him almost 8 years to score 25 goals between 2003 & 2010.
there were other productive english strikers in this period but the moment they suffer drought in terms of goalscoring, the media quickly bring out their knives to shank them back to the abyss. whereas for rooney, he can go 20 games without a goal for england and the media would blame lunar eclipse, the calories of burger, the prime minister or the birth of his baby as excuses for his loss of form. it's one rule for the other english strikers and another for wayne rooney.




how many goals does rooney actually need to score 2 world cup goals?
comparing miller to ronaldo is an insult. ronaldo is a winger for portugal in all the world cup outings....he's never been a striker for portugal. we might as well expect david beckham to have scored more goals than van nistelrooy.



valencia is a striker, ronaldo is a winger and wayne rooney is a striker.
valencia and rooney should be scoring more goals than ronaldo for their respective national teams.



the number of goals is irrelevant if we cannot account for how many games it took them to reach 50.
if baba suwe plays 300 games for the super eagles as a striker, he would score 50 goals for nigeria. the rate is the single most important factor here not the sheer number of goals.

coogar:
how good is rooney overall? why are we only counting his penalty for england?
considering he has only faced shyte goalies from san marino and the likes....even djemba-djemba would hit 100% rate with these teams. rooney isn't even the choice penalty taker in his club.....he would never have been the choice taker if england never had gerrard/lampard.



because he stopped being good as a forward in 2010 circa.
scholes started as a forward before being moved back into the midfield.




hell no....
berbatov has a better record and yet i never even celebrated his achievement.
50 goals for england in 13 years is a poor record.



off the top of me head alone.....i can name 10 players in the club & rooney wouldn't be among them.
how's he a legend? a striker that has only 1 goal in 10 world cup games is a legend? by the same token, ahmed musa is a legend.
does it not embarrass you that each of finidi george & amuneke has more world cup goals than wayne rooney?

Zeusd3:
this is really stupid.... my thanks for your observation.... serious buhari critics are just hating..... get a life n look before you limp....

Kx:
So much for reading skills.


We are a bit too quick to trade blames.
Was Buhari the president in January 2015 when this whole JP M stuff started?

coogar:
how clinical is rooney from the spot? without lampard/gerrard, rooney woulda been a midfielder for most of his career in the 3 lions.

coogar:
i don't celebrate mediocrity.

coogar:
you are basically reaffirming my stance.
so without lampard's retirement from the international games, rooney would still be on 45 goals after almost 13 years?
yes...he scored against brazil! what a proud achievement.....except that none of those games against brazil was a competitive game.

coogar:
rooney hung around longer than lineker so he was always going to score more....
the only issue is rooney should have broken that record about 4 years ago. the retirement of lampard as the choice penalty taker helped rooney get there this season. how many goals has he scored from the penalty spot now? 5 already in this qualifiers? it's a pity that we might not see a league goal from rooney in a while as mata is van gaal's choice penalty taker now(until mata misses).

nyabinghi:
This same moniker was banned for years, nothing mega, go ahead and ban it again, i will open nuff monikers and flout the rules of the site maybe you arrest me with help of MOSSAD, CIA,MI5, ISI, Red beret, KBG, Al-Qaeda,Boko Haram lol.

sinizia:
He ruined it because he doesn't have that striker instinct to hit the ball immediately. He wasted time like he was looking to thread a through-pass from the midfield. As for the last minute gaffe by him, if it was Cr7 or Suarez, they'd have caught up with the ball on time and whip it at the goalie. They take risks and they won't be blamed for taking an aim at the goal post. Rooney caught with the ball a little late but still didn't shoot at the post. I mean, it's the 94th minute, of what value will kicking the ball out for a throw-in bring?

MrTA:
Congrats Elampiro

SailorXY:

sinizia:
I think what's wrong with Rooney are two main problems.

1. Lack of confidence. This factor can ruin any footballer!! It totally ruined Torres' career. Rooney is no longer confident up front or in front of a keeper. The fans, the press, football pundits scrutinizes his every move. He is always looking for a perfect chance to score and doesn't even attempt to strike from all angles. I remember against Aston villa or so, Níhilist pointed out a dumb move Rooney made with the last chance of the match. Rooney was in the 8-yard box near the by-line, with the last kick of the match, instead of Rooney to take a shot at the goalie since he has nothing to lose, the Idíot shot at throwing to avoid the moving ball going in for a goal kick. I mean at 94 mins!! He couldn't even take a risk!! It was at that moment that Níhilist finally gave up on Rooney. I wish I can show you the moment to paint a better picture.

sinizia:
2. And finally, Rooney has lost the essence/knowledge of what it takes to be a lone wolf/striker. I wish I can blame Rooney solely for this, but I can't. Gaal caused this presently. Over the years Ferguson mastered the act of taking the pressure off Rooney and allowing Rooney drop into midfield or behind the main striker by pairing him with an out and out striker. It kept Rooney relevant and no-one could blame him for not scoring much because the main striker did majority of the scoring. Rooney-Persie and Rooney-Saha comes to mind. Ferguson knew Rooney had lost the ability to lead our line and made sure he got Rooney a lethal partner. But moronic Gaal thought it wise to give Rooney the sole striker position and we are paying gravely for it. It was already late when he realized the truth hence over-paying for an unknown Martial. Gaal is a natural bastard!!


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sinizia:
You once posted pics showing other strikers like Klose and Aguero coming outside the 18-yard box to look for services in your defense of Rooney, but what you failed to understand is that those strikers unlike Rooney don't stray too far to the midfield and always double back on time to drag away defenders in order to create chances for others, while also staying off the shoulders of the last defenders in order to grab any through ball, crossings and keep the defenders busy and on their toes. Against Newcastle, Coloccini and co were never troubled because Rooney was busy residing in the midfield. Drogba would have made Coloccini sweat by constantly disturbing him. Rooney has lost the essence of being a lone striker over the years.

sinizia:
You tried o, i couldn't even think of researching for it. No time on top Rooney matter.


Impressive stats when compared to Berbatov. But you have to admit if Rooney was a Bulgarian, he wouldn't be much chanced to square off against top teams like he did with England. Anyway, my anger with Rooney is only on the club level. He can go on a 30-match goal-less streak for England, it's not my fùcking biz; but for ManU, he must deliver. £300K no be moi-moi.

sinizia:
But you know England is a top country too, so you'd expect Rooney to face these countries in tournaments or friendlies. Bulgaria hardly qualifies for top tournaments, so the chances of Berbatov meeting top countries are minimal. BTW, Norway and Slovenia no follow for top footballing countries jare.

sinizia:
List the same for Rooney, let's compare and contrast.

sinizia:
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parrotibaba:
When player A is a striker and he is used as a midfielder for many games at a club, doesn't that imply that he was mainly a midfielder at the said club? Simple reasoning!

Elampiro: "Wayne Rooney played as a winger for many games in his career"

Me: " So u r implying that Wayne Rooney was mainly a winger for most of his career?"

What is hard to comprehend there?







Ayagagayagayagayo! Ayagayagayagayo!

tess1:
What i have said is that he has majorly played as a striker in two striker formation which will always give him an opportunity to score goals.

That's also why i said that the all the goals he has scored in this qualifying has been as a striker.

parrotibaba:
so u r now changing post! Quote where I said Rooney played as a striker in his first two seasons at united? After singing "Wayne Rooney was mainly a winger at united" u r now singing "he is mainly a number 10 for united"







Ukwu!!!!

parrotibaba:
I don't want this argument to drag on for pages so I'd like to end it here. Everyone makes mistakes whether they accept it or not. You goofed up. Sh!t happens. If you delved further into the said argument, particularly between u and coogar, u will see that u were implying that Rooney played mainly on the wings for united n even said that he enjoyed it(playing on the wings). The other day u said Rooney played as a number 10 during the 2011/12 season before Rooney himself cleared the air. EOD

parrotibaba:
on the Moyes/Dortmund issue ,I think u need to go back to school unless u clarify d statement dat I just quoted

on the Rooney/wing issue ,Rooney rarely played on d wing in his entire united career ,his first two seasons he played as an ss behind van nilsteroy n saha ,so I don't know where u got dat idea from

on the zaha issue ,I hv corrected my mistake