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coogar:
rubbish!
the resurgence of fellaini & young should tell you what you typed above is balderdash. van gaal just cleared out - at that point, he didn't know the players that would fit into his system or not.

who would have thought fellaini would chase rooney out of the hole? who knew young would turn di maria into a complete liability? who knew smalling would later become our best defender? only coogar predicted this last year. you should bow to my superior knowledge of the game.

Fellaini did not chased Rooney out of the hole. Rooney played in front of Fellaini when Gaal finally understood the team according to your logic. Yori Yori. Fellaini can never be a better 10 than Rooney.

All these your stories are for the gods.

coogar:
jones is a brainless dolt!
he's not rated at all. this is why smalling has been given a new contract & jones is rotting away. their contracts were supposed to expire at the same time.

jones has at least 5 errors in him per game. he nearly scored an own goal against arsenal with his idïotic back passes. van gaal would likely sell him. the new CB would partner smalling in the defence.



if rooney was more productive than fellaini, why was rooney doing carrick's job in the middle? would aguero do toure's job? would costa do matic's job? fellaini was 100% better than rooney behind the striker. he scored goals against some of the toughest opponents in the league while there.



he's coming....
make no mistakes about it. let's see if valencia
would bench de pay.



judging by van gaal's reaction, he obviously didn't tell valencia to pass back to de gea. his reaction showed he was pissed at valencia's decision. it was against burnley, not bayern or barcelona for feck sake.

Jones beat Smalling in interceptions and clearance. Your defensive most treasured threat. Smalling is given a new contract only because he has reached 25 years, the ripe age defenders mature.

Rooney played midfield because all our midfieders were injured and he alone could do the job there. Just like Carrick was asked to help out in defence or Blind in left back.

Valencia did the best thing. Gaal's wouldnt have reacted if it happened at the middle of the season haven known the craziness of the EPL. Note:

I am still waiting for Val's 15 matches as a right back. And how many of them we lost. Ukwu!!!. You said you did not list Oviedo? You listed Everton already.

Good night jor. Your wahala is too much. Pappy Water.

More fictions from the forerunner of Van Gaal. Now he says Gaal made a big error. lol

All players started from ground zero under Gaal. They went to preseason. They played a few matches in the EPL. If we had relied on those players who were sold, we would have been battling relegation onto the last day.


See you guys tomorrow.

Those guys that use to dream. Can anyone of you dream thus:

Arsenal 3 West Brom 5

Hull 0 Man United 6.

coogar:
valencia is the worst there, give up!

Is Valencia a centre back? I am talking about using the same CLEARANCES AND INTERCEPTIONS for all our centre backs.

coogar:
you are a pathological liar then.
valencia started as a right back in the league games against stoke, liverpool, fulham, newcastle(home & away), everton(away) and hull. there were other several games where moyes removed the starting fullback & valencia would go to the RB position. this happened in many games in europe & in the carling cup.

Tortoise, try more. You said you could list 15. You listed just 7. And did we lose all these seven matches? Was Valencia responsible for the lost. I am going out. See you tomorrow. to finish the analysis.

coogar:
well, it was obvious van gaal made a big error as the players he favoured at the start of the season were all useless to him. he had to rely on the complete capitulation of liverpool to make the 4th place.

smalling > jones
fellaini > rooney
and a new RB would send valencia to his retirement.

Jones who had the highest interceptions per minutes played and Clearances per minutes played in our team? Coogar, you be hypocrite.

Rooney was more productive in the number 10 than Fellaini. Rooney best matches came from the number 10- West Ham, Arsenal, etc. Fellaini can never beat Rooney in the number 10 if they are to compete for that position alone. Fellaini is easily marked out and often too slow.

Until a new right back comes.

coogar:
van gaal didn't think so from his reaction.
it's not about anyone being open to receive a pass. we had burnley camped in their box - all valencia needed to do was to lump that ball back into the box & cause confusion. even evans was pointing to where valencia should lump it but the idïot passed back to de gea and allowed burnley to get out of the box.

Gaal just came to the EPL, he didnt know how swiftly teams could hit on the counter. He didnt know too no team should be underrated. Some days you just take a draw instead of a losing it in the dead. Like the way Mata committed a foul against Arsenal in the very last minute.

SailorXY:
@elampiro, so Valencia did magnificently well & we are in the market for a RB? the only reason Valencia made the 11 was Rafael's injuries & fitness! once the 3-5-2 was dumped (rightly so) Valencia was destined for the bench - don't be deceived . . .

you don't become a great player 'playing safe'; especially when you, originally, are a forward, only players with limited skill set use it as their excuse.

When last did we play the 3-5-2? Rafael has been fit since December.

coogar:
so you now agree valencia is shyte?

the only thing he does better than rafael is being disciplined. he doesn't jump into tackles or become rash. he's not hot-headed & he's less likely to take risks like rafael does. that seems to suit LVG who is obsessed with possession.

If you know say u be Coogar, bring our central defenders stats on interceptions and clearances.

coogar:
you want me to do your job for you?
i have made my claims. if you have any issue with it, you can disprove it by telling us how many games valencia started as RB under moyes & how many goals we conceded with valencia staring at the ball like a zombie.

if you need a job done for you, hire a dog.

Valencia didnt play even up to 10 matches as RB under Moyes. In all you could only bring one match against Everton.

coogar:
some people are belly-aching because the players they idolise have let the club down. this is why i am doing this.

Let me refresh your memory. At this time last season you said Van Gaal would sell Rooney, Jones and Valencia because they cannot pass. You went on to say Gaal will make Rafael, Kagawa, Nani, Zaha, Anderson, Cleverley, Chicharito integral part of his starting eleven.

Van Gaal's fake forerunner.



As for that gif, Val did the right thing our players were not opened to receive a pass. The only one who could have taken a pass to begin to allow others come into position didnt want any responsibility, so Val did the best thing under the circunstance. Against West Ham, we hurriedly play the ball back into the box and we were countered. Same thing happened against Leicester.

coogar:
valencia would leave büttprints on our bench when clyne or alves arrives. that's set in stone. a new buy would always play debarring injuries.



falcao had fitness issues.
don't compare him to clyne that is fast becoming the best english RB.



it's up to 15.
he didn't start as RB against everton. he only went there after mumu moyes subbed rafael for januzaj before the hour mark. rafael had kept everton at bay until valencia went to RB and conceded a goal via ball watching.



if he did magnificently, why are we looking for another right back? you think van gaal would trust a blind valencia in his defence next season? you better start praying for valencia, he would soon join you in ekpoma to learn defensive skills from amodu shuaib!

Only one thing. List those Valencia 15 matches at left back under Moyes. You have the whole night to do this. I will come tomorrow so we analyse them as regard your 'fiction' that he lost us the games. I have already opened Valencia matches on my devise. See you later at midnight or tomorrow latest 8pm.

coogar:
this is all you need to know between valencia & rafael in the defence. rafael anticipates & reads the game better - this is why rafsel makes more clearances, intercepts more & blocks more shots. he's a natural defender. valencia is just hanging on to save his career.

Can we see these same stats for Phil Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Evans, McNair?

Only the above stats. I want check something.

coogar:
once we buy clyne, valencia would warm the bench. there's no way valencia would start as a RB for us next season.....and he's not even good enough to displace mata in the team. tell your idol to start packing his bags.



that's easy now.
i can name 7 league games in my head that valencia started as a RB last season. even in the games where he was RM, he was the culprit to the goals we conceded. he allowed oviedo to get a win for everton last season due to his ball watching.


https://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/04/Everton_Oviedo.gif

valencia looked like a tourist in the box.



nothing to do with herrera.
if valencia was in position, hazard wouldn't have scored. it's unthinkable to believe midfielders won't lose a battle....this is why we have defenders. hazard ran close to 30 yards before slotting the ball in. where was valencia that was supposed to be marking that zone?



abeggi....
so rafael was the reason we conceded 5 goals against leicester? it wasn't rooney assisting the opponents or blackett brainfarting or mata slipping? you dunno your football.

Even if we buy Clyne, he will have to compete with Valencia. That's football. Chevchenco, Crespo, Torres were all benched by Drogba after they came in as supposed upgrade.

Was Falcao not supposed to confine all our strikers to the permanently to the bench.

Now you said you can list 7 games Val played, no more 15 matches he lost. Hahahaha. Fitionist.

Obviedo scored against Gaal, so also Adebayo scored against Smalling. Benteke ate Smalling in the past. We can go back. Valencia is having his first season as a right back, and he did magnificently well. If u dey vex go hit head for wall.

coogar:
herrera was never in control to start with & we all know hazard would win that particular rat race every day of the week.

valencia was ahead when the play developed & he's the fastest player in europe. with a bit more common sense & the ability to sense danger, he would have reacted quickly to block hazard's path. he pretended he was going to run & then stopped at the edge of the box.

this is all you need to know between valencia & rafael in the defence. rafael anticipates & reads the game better - this is why rafsel makes more clearances, intercepts more & blocks more shots. he's a natural defender. valencia is just hanging on to save his career.

Hahahaha. You are more than this.

Did Raphael play in 3 man defence?
Did Rafael play wing back in successive matches?
What about tackles, and othr dozens of defensive stats.

Abeg carry this dirty comot or my face. You will soon go and fetch gifs.

coogar:
how come young kept di maria on the bench even when it's obvious young is the inferior player? it's all about the style & the players who would adapt to it.

rafael is an all-action type. he carries the attacking threat on the right hand side & fergie lets him take those risks. fergie's teams could care less about possession. it's attack attack attack!

valencia is more disciplined but part of that is because he is extremely limited. he carries no threat, he's painfully one-footed and he has no common sense at all to apply what is required in certain situations.

Valencia will still keep Rafael on the bench next season. Forget all these your stories. You can deceive others not me. All Rafael's 'sense', how many Assists does he have in his career?

coogar:
under moyes, valencia lost close to 15 games due to his ball-watching.



what about the loss to chelsea, everton & west brom? valencia wasn't there too? what about his disgraceful back pass to de gea in the FA cup? what about when we lost to southampton & man city?

Now, it's under Moyes. lol How many games did Valencia play as a right back under Moyes? I doubt if he played up to 5 games because Rafael, Smalling, Jones all play right back.

Chelsea game= blame Herrera's poor pace for Hazard's goal because he read the situation more than anyone. According one one article, that was a reason for United to get a DM like Macherano because even Carrcik wouldnt have stopped it. The report said Busquet had the athleticism to stop such.

Everton= McNair has major fault.
West Bom McNair. RVP missed a penalty.
Southampton= Carrick lost the ball, Herrera outsmarted by Wanyama, and Blackett failed to react fast.



You see how you have become a fictionists?

When I first came here Coogar was trying a little to be an analyst. Now Coolieguy Tortoise would pass more as a fictionist. Also very slippery such that you hold his hand, he says it's leg. When you hold his leg, he says it's head, then tongue.


When we lost to Sawsea and Leicester earlier in the season, Valencia wss not there. When we lost to Swansea again, Valencia did not start the match.

coogar:
rafael is 500% better than valencia
there's no debating about that. i can name 10 different games valencia screwed up in the defence and lost those games. if valencia had reacted quickly & matched hazard's run @ stamford bridge, we wouldn't have conceded. the mumu valencia suddenly stopped tracking back, he was expecting de gea to do his magic.

That was Herrera's ball to track. Herrera was the only one who could have tracked it.

According to you, Valencia lost us 10 matches. How many matches did Manchester United lost all season? Ukwu!!!

If Valencia lost us so many games as you said, how come Van Gaal kept Raphael on the bench for him? What I saw was Valencia saving us in games, making last man tackle off his position against Aguero, etc.

SailorXY:
Rafael is hardly fit enough to play half a season, but he's a better RB.

you don start all these your assumption - what games did Rafael play poorly against Hazard, Silva or Sterling
how did Rafael let us down against Leicester? Nigga was barged out of the way by a baboon & ref became blind bartemeous

There is nothing like assumptions. I have noticed all these even before I joined this thread. In Ferguson'slast season, Rafael and Evra regressed so much in their defensive duties but they were still good going forward. Against City last season, Siva and Nasri ate Rafael for dinner.

SailorXY:
talking about let downs - how about the wonderful through ball that knocked us out of FA Cup?

Mistakes are bound to happen. Rafael has had mistakes in the past, even against Bayern Munich when he was sent off.

However, his overall defensive play is in suspect. He is now shaking. He is easily shaken off the road.

weedtaker:
With the above explanation elampiro gave us about di maria operating as a left handed central midfielder in a midfield 3 (though i'm convinced he operated as an AMF), that means the arrival of depay won't be a problem for him, his link up plays with depay will even be superb, i just pray he picks his best form and become consistent, his battle is with fellaini, juan mata nd d rest.. The problem now, na our abino captain.

Skills don't leave a player over night. Di Maria is still playing well for Argentina and can still win games single handedly. The problem has to be with the philosophy he finds himself, coupled with the players around him, the nervousness in the team and the over expectation from him. Despite all these hurdles, he is by far the most creative and productive player in the team.

You mentioned left handed central midfield. I think that his best position. That was were it's being reported he did his best job in Benfica, he also did his best job for Madrid in that position, and he did his best job this season for Man United in that left side of our diamond midfield. The need to play Van Persie, Falcao and Rooney at same time meant one defender was sacrificed for more forward players- one number 10, two strikers.

Di Maria was the principal victim of such a decision to play all big players. He had more work to do in the massive ground left in midfield because of the one man less at the back. He did his part by creating chances which were squandered principally by RVP and Falcao during the period we played the diamond, although some of the chances resulted in Assists while he himself took the bull by the horn and score a few.

The problem however, was that due to the missed chances, we couldn't kill games early enough, our opponents recovered back into the game when Di Maria got tired from the 60th minute. Gaal needed to address this and at same time play all his big players when they were fit. This meant instead of playing the Diamond with a back four, Gaal went for another formation that will accommodate everyone. Di Maria, our best performer that period was taken off his comfort zone.

With the acquisition of De Pay, Gaal's United next season will play more direct and aggressive like the Holland team of 2014 world cup if we have Di Maria and De Pay starting our games. More like SAF counter attacking football of 2007/8 seson instead of the tiki taka we are currently trying to play. If we are however, going to continue this tikitaka, I am afraid it will never fit Di Maria, just as Madrid style this season wouldnt have favoured him. Di Maria has never been one to get high good pass accuracy, he likes to have the space to use the ball, to run with it, burst forward and hit it for another team mate running. This was why he find Ronaldo, Bale, Marcelo easy to play with. Hit the ball in their front and they will catch it. When they beat Bayern, it was purely from counter started by Modric to Di Maria to forwards, before you know it, Di Maria who started it all is on hand to score again or provide the last pass.


Such a long one. But I needed to explain it.

Nihilist:
But Valencia has turned out to be one of the better rightbacks in the league this season....

Very solid in attack and defence.

This is an objective assessemnt from a neutral point. I have seen many people who said Valencia is the most important player for Manchester United this season. Some of are United fans, some Arsenal fans and some United fans.

As for me, Val is the unsong hero.Valencia was pivotal to Gaal's possession football this season. Every time United held the ball shakily, there was almost immediate calm the moment the ball got to Valencia.

As for all the talk that Rafael would have been more creative, I always ask, what is Rafael's average Assists per season since he joined Manchester United, even playing in Ferguson's champion teams. Rafael has been a weak link whenever we faced big teams with creative players like Hazard, Silva, Sterling, etc. He can be good against straight running pacing wingers, but poor against creative players. He was one of those who let us down against Leicester earlier this season.

Dadehmola:
Like I said earlier, it's good to see you are already admitting your initial goof that Di Maria was primarily a winger last season!

You are now starting to lay emphasis on "central midfield", not "attacking midfield".

We are getting somewhere

No, you goofed. You wanted to prove that Di Maria played in the hole/number 10 like Young. You ended up helping my argument because:

It's easier to make Assists from the wing than central midfield. Our wingers- Valencia, Nani, Giggs have had more Assists than our CMs.

Ramires ever highest Assists from that position has been 2 in 2607 minutes. Just like our Anderson having 1 Assists from a similar position in 2007/2008 and his highest Assists ever is 3.

Young played in the wing and central attacking midfield. Di Maria played in the wing and central midfield where Ramires plays for Chelsea or Javi Garcia played for Man City. Note the difference.

7. His vertical style helps penetrate defences, either through a key pass or by carrying the ball and committing players. He is punishing the smaller teams, but equally performing in the bigger matches. It's now six assists and one goal in his last seven starts as a central midfielder, including a man of the match performance against Atlético in the Copa Del Rey.

8. Against a side like Barcelona, he is vital when attempting to win the ball back and then spring a counter attack. He doesn't possess the physicality of Khedira, but it's his work-rate and mobility that sees him given the job.
Political reasons could yet see the South American leave in the summer.


Dademola, where is the number 10/Central Attacking Midfied in all of these?

5. The tactician revealed how he now views Di María, when trying to explain how is struggling to fit Isco into the side. "It's true that Isco doesn't fit this system that well. He can play in Di María or Modrić's spot, but he's not as comfortable there," said Ancelotti.

The adaptation shouldn't have been that surprising; it's a role that Di Maria is already familiar. At Benfica, he would regularly feature on the left-hand side of Jorge Jesus' midfield diamond. On the right were Chelsea's Ramires and Manchester City's Javi Garcia in the holding position.

Comment. Isco is number 10, he cant fit into central midfield, the position Di Maria is asked to play. A position similar to where Ramires plays for Chelsea or Javi Garcia, a natural DM plays for City. Ukwu!!!

6. That tactical flexibility is illustrated in the way he positions himself throughout matches. With Ronaldo cutting inside, he (Di Maria) drifts out to the flanks to provide width and crosses. His directness and pace causes opposing midfielder's problems if they don't track his late runs into the box.

Dadehmola, did you really read this?

4. Injuries to both Bale and Cristiano Ronaldo meant that Di María was still able to clock up plenty of game time, while Ancelotti used his now custom 4-3-3 a little more. Against Real Sociedad, Ancelotti was able to field a midfield three of Xabi Alonso, Sami Khedira and Luka Modrić for the first time. Real Madrid were 3-0 up within 30 minutes, eventually winning the match 5-1. Khedira was then cruelly ruled out for the rest of the season, whilst on international duty for Germany.
Ancelotti initially decided the 4-2-3-1 was the best option without Khedira, but away victories over Espanyol and Real Betis with Di María on the left of a midfield three caused a rethink. "Yes, for the moment we will keep playing with the 4-3-3 formation," said the Italian in a press conference. "It gives us a good balance because all of our three midfielders work well enough."
Asier Illarramendi and Casemiro are other midfield options, but both are better suited to breaking up the play and making simple passes. With Alonso and Modrić already in the centre Ancelotti wants someone with energy, drive and athleticism. With Di María as a central midfielder, Ancelotti has the right blend
More to come.


The above clearly states that Khedira was injured and that necessitated Di Maria to take his place in three man centre midfield involving Alonso and Modric. I ask you dadehmola, how is central midfield same as number 10 position? Let's continue. To the next stage.

Dadehmola:
www.fourfourtwo.com/features/how-angel-di-maria-went-england-bound-castaway-key-man-real-madrid

I would have liked to highlight certain facts in this explicit analysis of di Maria's final season at Madrid, but unfortunately, it would be too tedious for me.

Elampiro, di Maria was an attacking midfielder last season but I'd agree with you that he had that tenacity to drift out wide (to the left)...shikena!!

Why you con go bring this article wey you take fail yourself?

Let me help you highlight some.

1. When Gareth Bale became the latest 'Galactico' at Real Madrid last summer, it was largely expected that Ángel di María would be the one to make way. The Argentine held down the inverted right-winger position that Bale now occupies.

2. Carlo Ancelotti changed formation continuously in his opening few months at Madrid, though 4-2-3-1 was his predominant selection. When Bale played, Di María didn't. When the wide man did start, it was out on the right; he was essentially an under-study to the world's most expensive player.

3. The brilliant form of young Isco complicated matters further; if Ancelotti wanted a 'number 10' then it was the former Málaga man who would be selected.


From the above, you can see that Isco was the number 10, the AM. While Di Maria was a winger. Now let's look at the next stage occasioned by injuries.

Falcao
53 mins ·
Hacer cambios y tomar decisiones en la vida no es fácil! Pero hay momentos en que hay que hacerlo! Atrévete!
To make changes and decisions in life is not easy! But there are times when you have to do it! Just risk it!


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Wetin bros dey talk?

coogar:
silva didn't camp with nasri or navas!
you are poor with geography. the arrows in that image mostly pointed to the centre. if arrow is coming at you from right hand side & the left hand side, doesn't that mean you are at the centre? look at where the arrows pointed for feck sake.

It's same pointing you will get when you project Ashley Young, Agbonlahor, Downing. Just as you got with Silva, Navas and Nasri.

coogar:
all the sportsites get their data from OPTA!
i am giving you facts & images from OPTA directly, so you can always ignore what you read on ZM. young was a winger in 2010/11 with the license to roam, but his primary role was a winger just like ronaldo did for us in 2007/8 when he nicked 42 goals.

So I should believe OPTA data which are subject to interpretation instead of Ashley Young himself, Villa manager and Sir, Alex Ferguson?

coogar:
i don't even know why this argument is relevant. young had a better season as an out & out winger in 07/08 with 17 league assists in a villa side that paraded the wackest strikers in europe. it was man utd that actually ruined young. he was very very good before he joined united.
this was what opta said about him just before SAF signed him in the summer of 2011

I am not disputing Young that is good. But my point is that 1. He played behind the striker in 2010/2011. .... 2. His utility aspect has always been exploited which boosted his stats even in 2007/2008. Young started his career as a striker in Watford, and that made him easy to get into fluid front when needed.


I rest my case.

Dadehmola:
Atleast you don dey change mouth small small- we are getting somewhere!

Staying central during defence. What havoc can one do in one owns half?

Dadehmola:
Elampawa ,who played on the left wing? Was it Ronaldo or di Maria ?? Or na both of them, with Ronaldo being "more inside" than the argentine?

4-2-3-1 AND 4-4-2 Di Maria in left.

4-3-3. Di Maria operating the way SAF used Fletcher and Hagreaves. Stay central during defence, then on a counter/attacking drift wide. This is even more difficult than staying on the wing all day. See above.

Dadehmola:
Kindly explain this formation to me (as regards di Maria being on the wing).

Thanks

Overall pattern

The pattern was as expected – two counter-attacking sides playing out a cautious match, and the only two goals coming from corners. There were few clear-cut chances in open play, and despite the intention of both sides, relatively few dangerous counter-attacks either.

Atletico started with their usual 4-4-2 shape but moved to 4-1-4-1 after the break, while Real’s system initially seemed a hybrid of 4-4-2 and 4-3-3, although looked more like a simple 4-4-2 the more the match continued.

Di Maria had a burst of pace and whipped in a stream of crosses from the left, which was Real’s zone of strength. Marcelo supported him effectively and played some neat combinations, while Ramos also moved forward from centre-back to help down that side. Although Atletico were reasonably happy defending crosses, this was still Real’s best hope of getting back into the game – they didn’t seem to have enough space to break down Atletico’s defence from central zones. Marcelo to Di Maria was the game’s most frequent passing combination, despite the fact they were only on the pitch together for half of the 120 minutes.

Real’s long wait for a tenth European Cup is over, although it’s difficult to pinpoint precise tactical reasons for the triumph in this final. Ancelotti’s changes were broadly effective and Di Maria was superb, but their star players were underwhelming.

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You can see from above that Di Maria takes the ball forward, starting a counter. As they move into attacking Zone, Ronaldo moves inward joining Benzema while Di Maria goes to the wing. Something similar Fletcher and Agreaves have done for us previously.

Dadehmola:
Kindly explain this formation to me (as regards di Maria being on the wing).

Thanks

No that is a second striker. Ukwu!!!

coogar:
this is stupidity of the highest quality.
so if young is camped on the left with agbonlahor, how is he deployed centrally? how did he operate centrally? he was stationed on the left - you have said so yourself so why are you disputing with opta?

Just as Silva was deployed centrally but camped with either Nasri or Navas on the flank to exchange passes.

coogar:
against west brom, van persie swapped places with fellaini. it would be silly of anyone to say van persie played as a striker towards the end of that match. van persie went to camp with rooney in the midfield. all the passes young received were on the flanks......so how was he a number-10 for villa?

Ashley Young said he was number 10 in September 2010.
Ashley again said he was number 10 in March and confirmed he played same position when he scored for Denmark in February 2011.

SAF said Young played the number 10 for Villa in 2010/2011.

In February 2011, Villa coach and reports has it that Young was still playing behind the striker. Need not mention the ZM and whoscored reports throughout the season.

Dadehmola:
I meant to ask : which wing did di Maria play at Madrid last season?

Di Maria played in the wing, or you may see whoscored arrangement.

4-2-3-1
..........Lopez/ Casila
Cavazal- Pepe- Ramos- Marcelo
.......Khedira- Modric
Di Maria.......Isco......Di Maria
.......... Benzenma

4-4-2
..........Lopez/ Casila
Cavazal- Pepe- Ramos- Marcelo
Di Maria-Khedira-Modric- Isco
.......... Benzema - Ronaldo.


4-3-3
Lopez/ Casila
Cavazal- Pepe- Ramos- Marcelo
Modric- Alonso- Di Maria
Bale- Benzema -Ronaldo