European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:02am On May 26, 2015 |
coogar: how's rooney an AM when he scored 4 goals as a CF this season? how's rooney an AM when his best scoring record was as a striker in 09/10 & 10/12?
did cantona ever play as a striker for united? He was an AM. We had this argument twice before. He was playing diagonally to wings then run in to score from crossings. His midfield stats tells it too. I can't go into a new argument. I got work doing for a long nite. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58pm On May 25, 2015 |
in 2009/10, Rooney would have won d golden boot and help us win the league etc. He never recovered from his injury at Alianz Arena against Bayern Munich. in s return leg SAF made him play through pains and when our results were getting bad and we were fell from top table, SAF rushed Rooney back not injury free. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:54pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: What do you gain from beating around the bush? Rooney and Eric's comparison is based only at Man Utd, not national team. Stop running away from the truth!! Eric is a god at Man Utd, Rooney's not!! why did u start what u cannot finish? u started it . d national team stuff |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:36pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: don't mind him.... that's what he does. instead of him to argue objectively how rooney has failed to score more than 1 away league goal since march last year, he's arguing about lampard's goals.
how many games did saha play for united? how many minutes did he play? you would be surprised is 28 goals has a better rate than rooney's.
cantona was an AM. it's illogical to compare him to rooney who has played a chunk of his games in the CF position. are you not ashamed silva has the same amount of league goals as rooney despite playing in less minutes? Cantona was an AM, so also Rooney too. Saha returns on per minutes played is a disgrace compared to Rooney. Saha was a CF. ABEG. YOU GUYS SHOULD ACCEPT DFEAT. GNITE. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: LMAO!! That nigga is grasping at straws. Rooney has never been outstanding. Even in the World Cup, he still sucks!! I have told you that Rooney out performed Cantona AND Saha in qualifying national team. You guys have been disgraced in this argument. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:33pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: https://i.imgur.com/SD3sRvQ.gif
that's impossible. lampard is next to giggs on the all-time assist table. there's no way rooney has assisted more. I will continue from here tomorrow. From 2007/8 to date Lampard has 45 Assists. Rooney has 63 same period. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:29pm On May 25, 2015 |
chrisley024: Stop telling me what happened when Berbatov was still in United. We're talking now Whcih can post be this? When did we discuss this? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:26pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Ashamed? If Rooney had Saha's injury he won't even hit the crossbar.
Rooney is not fit enough to tie Cantona's shoelace. You know zilch. How can you compare the King with Rooney? WTF?!! Rooney does have injuries. If not for injuries, he would have won the golden boot 2009/2010 and probablyhelp us win the UCL. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:23pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: you don't need to insult him to pass your message across. what he meant to say was lampard scored 20+ goals in all competitions for 5 seasons back to back.
how can rooney beat lampard in assists? That guy is confused...... Assist. I check from 2005 down, Rooney did far better in per minutes played. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:20pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Rooney - a World Cup flop!! Rooney - an Euro flop!! Nistelrooy, Cantona, Yorke etc, are way above his league. Even a fit Saha outscored him. Shame!!
Saha was a striker for Manchester United. He scored 28 goals in 4 seasons. Something Rooney scored in 2011/2012 alone. Saha highest goals in a season is 8 goals in 24 appearances. 
CANTONA NEVER SCORED 20 GOALS. 73 IN 171 APPEARANCES FOR UNITED.
Ukwu!! Arent you shamed now? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:10pm On May 25, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05pm On May 25, 2015 |
Also, Rooney beats Lampard in Assists.
Lampard had more penalties 43 making part of his goals while Rooney had just 18.
I no know why dem dey bring this comparison.
I give up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:00pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Lampard assists as midfielder dwarfs that of Rooney's!! He average 20 EPL goals per season, why has Rooney exceeded the 20-goal mark just TWICE in 11 seasons?  Even Chelsea fans will laugh at this stupidity and lies from the pit of hell. Now I know I have been arguing with a two years old or a brainwashed follow follow.
Lampard had 0 goals in his first two seasons. 1997/8= 5 goals 1998= 5 gaosl 1999= 6 goals 2000= 7 goals 2001 = 5 2002= 6 2003= 10 2004 =13 2005= 16 2006= 10 2007= 10 2008 12 2009= 22 2010= 10 2011= 11 2012= 15 2013= 6 2014/15 = 6 goals. Total= Lampard= 606 matches, 48, 728 mins= 175 EPL goals. Rooney 407 macthes, 31,776 minutes= 185 goals.
You guys have used all the players in the world to try and bring down Rooney and you keep telling lies to deceive people. I give up.Darkrebel666 I just exposed their lies and manipulation above. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Yet he's not among the top 20 AMs in Europe.  He is the best AM in the world in the last 11 years. No one has his records.
Even this season, Coogar showed us a stat Rooney has 1 goal per match in the AM position. Which AM has that? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: RVP won the golden boot in back to back seasons. when rooney was a striker, he won nothing. when rooney was a number-10, he never topped any assist chart.
what exactly is rooney good at?  He will soon outlive RVP in Man United. He outlived Saha, Tevez, Berbtov, Welbeck, already, yet he is useless. Yori Yori. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:37pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Kai!! This is annoying!! Look at Rooney stats upon he's been playing for 11 seasons for Man Utd. They make him a striker, Rooney sucks. They said he's winger, he sucked!! They said he's a midfielder and yet he over sucked. Please can someone tell me where Rooney has been outstanding?  Rooney has been the best AM in the world in the last 11 years. No AM has the number of goals Rooney has. Not even Ozil or Silva or any one I know. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:34pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: In 2011/2012, Rooney scored 27 goals as a defender? Go and sleep please. Rooney outperformed Falcao, what has that got to do with the fact that Rooney is wack striker? How many minutes did Rooney play compared to Falcao? Mind you, Falcao was more prolific than Rooney whilst at Porto and Ath Madrid!! Rooney can never be good like Falcao if he's in Ath Madrid!! Rooney was an AM in 2011/2012 playing behind Chicharito and Welbeck. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:33pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: rooney is not in the top 20 AMs in europe. which rooney? the same rooney that has the first touch of a rapîst?
see how common david silva completely destroyed in every known stat attached to creativity. the only stat rooney did better was goals scored from penalty.
silva played less minutes & yet he did better than rooney that played more minutes, played half of his games as a striker & even got the bonus of an awoof penalty.
how else should we prove rooney is a liability? Every Man City player will destroy United players in every position. Aguero will annihilate RVP and Falcao combine together. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:30pm On May 25, 2015 |
chrisley024: elampiro prefers CF while you say SS.
Both of you should pls tell us his best position.  His best position is the number 10 behind the striker. But he delivered as a centre forward in 2009/2010. He has also delivered in the wing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Rooney beat RVP in goals because he played more than RVP, Rooney amasses the highest number of playing time in Man Utd, yet Lampard who's not an attacker bests him season after season. Messi played on the wings this season, CR7 plays on the wing every season, but right from 2004/2005 when Rooney has been striking, he's yet to score up to 30 goals. Something that wingers like Cr7 keeps achieving. Give it up, a striker is known for goals and Rooney sucks at it!! Rooney rules at Man Utd no doubt,but compared to striking elites, he sucks!! RVP has won EPL highest scorer twice, where was Rooney then? A fit RVP gave us the EPL, something Rooney can't do.
Neymar will easily outscore Rooney in this current Man Utd squad. Can Rooney spearhead Liverfool's attacks with aplomb like Torres and Suarez did? If Rooney wasn't England's golden boy, he'd have faded away. English press over-hypes him!! Chelsea brought a mere £30 mill when they wanted to buy him. Shameful!! Why lie from the pit of hell? Rooney has only been striker once in United. 2009/2010. Rooney has now outperformed Falcao. 
Now you guys say common Diouf. Is Dioud better than Falcao, RVP, Wilson, Chicha?
Abeg, if you are starboard resurrected pls shift. Good night finally. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:12pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: so we finished mid-table this season that rooney played in the central midfield? arsenal finished 4th last season & ramsey scored 20+ goals from the midfield. we finished 4th this season & rooney scored how many goals?
what do you have to say to this stat about rooney?  You have lost your sense of logic. How did we finished in the mid table this season? 2013/2014 season= Ramsey scored 10 goals. Giroud scored 16. 2013/2014 season= Rooney scored 17. RVP scored 12
Tell me how we should have finished well when our midfielder became the top scorer? 2013/2014 season= Ramsey scored 6 goals. Sanchez 16, Giroud scored 14. 2013/2014 season= Rooney scored 12. RVP scored 10 Coogar goodnight. I have load of work tonight against tomorrow. Try to enjoy your sleep tonight. Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo.  I don destroy Coogar and his ally. That other new man dey write like Starboard. I be he don go rebrand? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:58pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: predominantly a central midfielder? from that central midfield, players like aaron ramsey & yaya toure scored 20+ goals per season.
of the 33 games rooney appeared, only 14 of them was in the central midfield. he had 19 games in the forward role & he produced nothing meaningful from that position.
admit it, rooney is wänk! How many did Van Persie play as a central midfield? Ramsey and Toure played in teams that finished in UCL places. Rooney played in a team that finished mid table. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: It took Rooney 4 seasons to reach the 20-goal mark, something that Lampard achieved with relative ease for many seasons. Something that Kane achieved in his first season, same as Costa. Rooney is over-hyped!! Elampiro is just grasping as straws. Do you understand football at all?
Kane is a striker. Costa a striker. Rooney used virtually as a winger in his first season. AM subsequently.
Even Ronaldo did not achieve 20 goals in his first season at EPL. This is EPL, NON STRIKERS WILL HARDLY ACHIEVE THAT.
You see how hatred towards Rooney can blind your judgment? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:48pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Somethings are not worth arguing. Anyone that looks at Rooney's goals return, then compared to how much he's paid and the fact he hardly misses any match and doesn't find that dude as low grade striker, then the person is sentimentally dumb!! It took Rooney 4 seasons to reach the 20-goal mark, something that Lampard achieved with relative ease for many seasons. Something that Kane achieved in his first season, same as Costa. Rooney is over-hyped!! Elampiro is just grasping as straws.
You dont know what you are saying. Rooney beats RVP in two consecutive seasons in goals+Assists despite Rooney being a midfielder over half of the total minutes he played.
Neymar you boast with, wont score 15 goals in this United team in shambles. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:46pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: rooney 12 goals in 2872 mins 1 goal in every 239 mins
van persie 10 goals in 2111 mins 1 goal in every 211 mins.
van persie still has a better rate of scoring than rooney. 
Even a sheep knows that Van Persie played as a striker 100% throughout the season while Rooney was predominantly a central midfielder.
Again best scorer is not awarded on per minutes, but who scored most goals. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:42pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: that's exactly the point. xavi has the better football brain than messi & ronaldo put together but he gets ignored cos he doesn't score 300 goals in 280 games. if zidane, nedved, fat ronaldo, etc were around now they wouldn't get near ballon d'or.
football is about goalscoring - messi & ronaldo are the richest footballers in the world. you think it's because they dribble or because they have pace? hell no - it's because scoring hatricks for them is easier than slicing a loaf of bread. What is football brain when there is no pace and power/energy to complement it? Maradona had pace and power, Pele had pace and power. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:30pm On May 25, 2015 |
coogar: so why are messi/ronaldo the best players in the world. if they don't score goals, who would rate them? compare xavi who is 100 times better than zidane and yet he has no ballon d'or to his name because messi/ronaldo wouldn't let anyone near that trophy.
that's the point..... rooney was 18 then, he had just destroyed the toughest defences in euro 2004 back then & he was by far the most talented teen in europe as at june 2004.
his goal stats @everton didn't matter cos he had done it against some of his best teams in europe. if he didn't break his metatarsal during the competition, england would have gone all the way. he had scored 4 goals in 5 games for england already before his injury.
as a striker, if you are not scoring - you are worthless! Forget all these, Xavi came at a wrong time. If Zidane were here he wouldnt win. Messi and Ronaldo dont just score their general play is massive. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:24pm On May 25, 2015 |
Coogar I am done with you. Go and sleep. A player that is finished keep being our top scorer. Last season he was our top scorer, top Assists provider. He directly contributed to 27 goals last season. This season, second in assists, top scorer. When the team starts to fly again, Rooney will score 30+ goals.  Good night. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:20pm On May 25, 2015 |
Goals scored is not a basis for determining how much a player earns or is worth. It has never been never. Izaghi was never a top earner as far as I know. Let Chicharito score above 20 goals every season, he will never be a top earner because of his little contribution to general play.
When we bought Rooney from Everton, he had just 15 goals in 67 appearances. Yet he was rated very high. Watch a player general play and his overall contribution. When a player like Wayne Rooney adds so much goals and assists, it's a big bonus. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:06pm On May 25, 2015 |
Sir Alex Ferguson on Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney: 'We are not going to let him go' Monday 13 May 2013 Wayne Rooney’s Manchester United career looked close to being over on Sunday night after Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed that the player had made a transfer request and had been left out of the Scot’s final game at Old Trafford because the forward did not feel he could play. Although Ferguson said the club had turned down the transfer request, it is hard to see how Rooney can survive at Old Trafford having challenged the club’s patience for the second time since his original contract stand-off in 2010. The player joined in the post-match trophy celebrations but was not even on the substitutes’ bench for the match. Ferguson said: “I don’t think Wayne Rooney was keen to play, simply because he’s asked for a transfer. But we won’t sell him. We have refused it. I think he should go away and think about it again.http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sir-alex-ferguson-on-manchester-united-striker-wayne-rooney-we-are-not-going-to-let-him-go-8613023.html..................... Ferguson would never have sold Wayne Rooney. Ferguson kept faith with him when Rooney went through even a more difficult time and City were ready to pay him 300k/week in 2010. Rooney's loyalty made him take a pay cut to stay at Old Trafford. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:49pm On May 25, 2015*. Modified: 9:31pm On May 25, 2015 |
sinizia: Darkrebel66, i hope you are seeing the Rooney I'm talking about? 1 away goal for one full season. Jesus!! I'm ashamed of my Man Utd. It will never be well with that Moyes. Imagine a Zlatan scoring one away goal, he'll burnt to death. It's a taboo!!
Take a look at Rooney's goals in Man Utd since 2004/2005 and see that lad is over-hyped. Rooney stats for Manchester United:
Goals =======230 Assists======119 Games played==479 Minutes played =38,949.
Rooney is the most productive Attacking Midfielder out there. His goals return per matches played in knockout phase of the champions league is said to be the best in EPL history. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:39pm On May 25, 2015 |
parrotibaba: mate truth be told ,at d rate of his contributions to d team ,he doesn't warrant €300k per week ,it's dat simple ...we will be better off offering dat amount to DDG The team is not balanced. Nobody can perform like a world class in the team currently. This is like putting a star player in AC Milan. He will not perform. |