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tess1:How can this your statment be true when: 1. In 2009 summer Rooney challenged SAF he wants to play upfront. 2. In 2011 SAF said he had always used behind the striker- as number 10. 3. Rooney said in that Coogar's post that he had been playing before the main striker until Tevez, in 2008, told him to move upfront closer to him. Is English so hard for you guys? Ferguson said Rooney was an AM for him. I will come tomorrow for any replies, or if I am abit chanced much later tonight. |
coogar:All these are lies or statemnts from your imagination due to your poisoned mind towards Rooney. In 2011 SAF said he played Rooney BEHIND the striker. I will be back tomorrow. |
sinizia:You are an amateur. You who don't know football position, a brainwashed follow who thinks I am a student like you who should be online 247 replying post. Keep waiting for elampiro. You are probably on holiday. Rooney said in that Coogar's post that he had been playing before the main striker until Tevez, in 2008, told him to move upfront closer to him. Is English so hard for you guys? Ferguson said Rooney was an AM for him. |
coogar:Gbam! Rooney himslef said He had been playing behind the striker before 2008 and he was (now) trying to play on same line as Tevez. Tevez trying to make Rooney move up front closer instead of far behind. In 2011 SAF said he had always deployed Rooney as number 10. Rooney is 10 but that doesn't mean he didn't occassionally play as a winger or central midfielder or striker. |
sinizia:Scholes was our central midfielder in the last decade. He paired Carrick in central midfield 4 and 8 positions. For example: Brown(2)...Ferdiand(5)...Vidic(6)..Evra(3) .........Carrick(4)... Scholes( ![]() CR7/Nani(7)..Rooney(10)..Giggs/Park(11) ......................Tevez(9). |
homesteady:Behind Costa is number 10. So itks Oscar. Fab used there too occasionally. |
sinizia:Your question doesn't make sense when you ignorantly listed renowned central moidfielders as number 10. Or is it that you mistake the CM position for 10? |
sinizia:Name doesn't tell where a player was used. Fabregas, Modric, Xavi, Gerald are central midfielders. So they are midfielders. Many saw Ronaldinho as a winger for Brazil and Barca. Wingers are called midfielders. Although Arsenal used Fab as a false 9 sometimes and Chelsea as a 10 sometimes. Wikipedia in defining the 'hole' in Association Football used Rooney, Ozil, Maradona, I think Pele too as examples. SAF said he deployed Rooney to 10, the hole behind the striker. Are you saying SAF was confused? |
BBC, independent, etc has Cantona as a former Manchester United striker. Premier League official website has him as a striker. You must be new to football. |
sinizia:Same way Manchester United official website stated Cantona as a striker, Wikepedia has Cantona as a striker, etc. We all know both were number 10. Rooney has only led the line- number 9 in just one season 2009.10. In 2011/12 he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck, it's clear from Zonal Marking match days post match analysis and his midfield stats. Rooney has about 89 Assists in the PREMIER LEAGUE alone, which makes him probably the most productive players in EPL history on goals+Assist vs minutes played. Even Ferguson said Rooney was number 10 for him after he bought Young. Rooney has 17 Assist in Everton as a 16/17 years old kid. Something top number 10 still find hard to make in the EPL today. |
Mourinho indirectly telling Man United to create more clear cut chances. More like find your strikers more often with in dangerous places, more CCC in the box. Stop playing it slowly and holding it too long in midfield because the goal post is not there- in midfield. Lol |
sinizia:Are you not ashamed disputing facts? Show me any 10 that has been so productive with goals+assists? Show me any 10 who was given the 9 role and instantly became the best 9 in the world. Rooney told SAF 'pls buy Ozil and I will keep banging in goals playing in front' But SAF always prefers using Rooney's energy in the attacking midfield and his defensive quality to stall oppositions build up. |
sinizia:Rooney played the number 9 that season 2009.10 season and he was named the best 9 in the world in the ballon d'or. Rooney Challenged Ferguson to play him in the number 9, and SAF tried him, then he delivered. Rooney had not been so enthrusted with the 9 in any season, the very first time he scored 26 goals. He gave us our first ever win in San Siro and our only win there till date. |
World best strikers in the past 5 years according to Ballondor include Ibrahimovic Rooney Messi Ronaldo Falcao Anyone in this elite group is qualified to earn 300k. Last year this time, people here said Rooney should be dropped from England team for Sterling, Sturridge and Lambert. 2 months later, Rooney went on to be the captain of three lions haven had a hand in England only 2 goals in the world cup. England has won 100% of their compectitive matches since Rooney became captain, won frendly matches except the draw in Italy. Now I can't see Lambert or Lallana again. All the enemies always bringing new people to try and negative mark Rooney. This shows not many players have his consistency. Ukwu! Rooney has outlived Crouch, Carol, Bent, Defoe, just to mention a few in the last 4 years. When taken back, the list can go to ten forwards- Forwards because Rooney was used as a number 10. Lambert, may be Sterling sef go soon join. Rooney as England captain has scored plenty goals that he's about to be England all time top scorer. Yori Yori. See you tomorrow. |
Darkrebel666:Suarez was there and they were finishing midtable for years. Guy pls leave these people, this argument will last the whole summer as it has been in the past two summers I have been on this thread. Then next season it will continue. These people think they are more sensible than the men at Old Trafford who offered Rooney deal to be 250k, then 300k. They are more tacttical than Gaal who made Rooney captain. Don't bother yourself too much because it usually a long argument which requires stamina and patience. Distractions and heavy time consumption. |
sinizia:Rooney beats Cantona in goals and Assists. Rooney is 1000 times better than Cantona. Rooney and Cantona played same attacking midfield yet Cantona never scored up to 19 goals even in 34 league games a season. Rooney has only played 34 games or more, twice in his career. Rooney also beat Tevez in goals+assists. Rooney is number 10 and Tevez 9. Judging them on goals alone is criminal. You guys are wayo. Rooney has been been world best striker in Ballon'dor award. Something Aguero, Tevez, Suarez, are still dreaming of. Rooney is the best number 10 of his generation. This argument continue tomorrow. I am working heavily tonight. I will be back tomorrow hopefully. |
If na Rooney be Giggs them for tell us say Ronaldo na winger. See excuse for Giggs.. but Rooney...... ABegi Bye for now. |
sinizia:As is Rooney an out and out striker? Okay, compare Rooney and Cantona who played in same position? Giggs was voted/awarded EPL best player ever during the 2Oth anniversary award, yet he never scored goals.... as you may say. Bye jor. |
sinizia:Giggs never won any golden boot and he is a legend. Cantona is a legend but he never reached 20 EPL goals. His highest was 18 in 34 league appearances. Rooney scored 27 EPL goals. Remember, Cantona and Rooney played same position for us. |
sinizia:Did you put his Assists? He is better than players who are one or two seasons wonders and fade. He has been involved in all our big matches, activities and events since 2006/2007 season or even 2004/5 since his arrival. He has played 3 UCL finals. Without Ronaldo he led us to face Barca in 2011final, he scored against Chelsea in the one nil win at the Bridge, he scored an equalizer against Barca, although we lost to the bst team in the world. On the journey, he dismissed Shalke easily making the home fixture a formality, then SAF rested him. SAF usually rest him in small fixtures ahead of big fixtures, another reason his goals figures may have dropped. |
sinizia:Ronaldo and Messi are almost in same category as Pele and Maradona. Even Rooney acknowledges Ronaldo as a better layer than him. We should know who we put above or below players. |
Nihilist:You have not even added Assists. That guy wrote about a credible site putting Rooney in to 5. When I google 'EPL top strikers ever' the first website I read, I saw him in top 5 and they called him an EPL legend in the last decade. Henry was 1st and Shearer 2nd. The second website I opened put Rooney in top 5 again. But Shearer as first before Henry. I need to log out for some time. |
sinizia:Ronaldo and Rooney are not strikers. Although they can operate as strikers. Rooney has been an AM for us, even Ferguson said this. |
sinizia: Rooney is not a striker. He is an AM predominantly. Many of the things you wrote u there are illogical. Ronaldo earned higher than Rooney at Man United. Rooney was not bought as a striker, Kane is an out and out striker. |
sinizia: Are you a village kid? Lampard and Rooney played majorly in the number 10. In the hole. Lampard has played for 20 years. Rooney is second behind Alan Shearer as of today. Rooney is the best Attacking Midfielder of his generation. |
sinizia:Lampard..........48, 729/96 = 507.59 minutes to create an Assists. Rooney..........31, 776/94 = 338.04 minutes to create an Assists. What was the argument last night? Minutes played. Forget all these village stories............ Ronaldo took 3 years to score 20 goals. Kane must be better than Ronaldo. Ukwu!!! Kane is a striker. |
12:18, 4 JUNE 2014 BY LIAM PRENDERVILLE After he 35-year-old announced he will be departing west London this summer, we have broken down his trophy-laden career with the Blues Highest Premier League goal involvement It is becoming quite clear that Lampard is well ahead of his Chelsea colleagues in the record books, but what about his Premier League rivals? Well, the England man is the fifth highest scorer in history but his 101 assists (including West Ham spell) sees him finish second behind Alan Shearer in terms of goal involvement, with 272. He finishes just one ahead of Manchester United legend Ryan Giggs, while Andy Cole and Wayne Rooney complete the top five. Highest Premier League goal involvement. Alan Shearer 324 Lamapard 272 Ryan Giggs 271 Andy Cole 260 Wayne Rooney 258 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/frank-lampards-chelsea-career-numbers-3640342 The above was as at Junes 2014. Rooney added 12 goals and 5 assists to his figures this season. Which pushed him to second place behind Shearer. |
elampiro:Lampard........48, 729/96 = 507.59 minutes to create an Assists. Rooney..........31, 776/94 = 338.04 minutes to create an Assists. |
chrisley024:Where did you and I have the discussion of Berbatov? That's my question? |
I said it that Rooney beats Lampard hands down in Assists they were laughing at themselves. Sinizia and Coogar, see below what I believe to be 'OPTA standard' Assists figures. Lampard played 48,729 minutes. Rooney played 31,776 minutes. Lampard played 16,953 minutes more than Rooney. That is 188 full ninety minutes of football matches. Premier League All time most assists Assists Assist name 131 Ryan Giggs 99 Steven Gerrard 96 Frank Lampard 94 Wayne Rooney 89 Francesc Fabregas 80 Thierry Henry 62 James Milner 60 Robin van Persie 59 Gareth Barry 58 Ashley Young 57 Stewart Downing 56 Didier Drogba 53 Peter Crouch 53 Danny Murphy 51 Nolberto Solano 50 Damien Duff 50 Aaron Lennon 49 Nani 49 Dennis Bergkamp 48 Morten Gamst Pedersen 48 David Silva 48 Mikel Arteta 48 Leighton Baines 47 Nicolas Anelka 47 Dimitar Berbatov 46 Cristiano Ronaldo 45 Paul Scholes 45 Luis Antonio Valencia 44 David Beckham 43 Kevin Davies 43 Charles N'Zogbia 43 Robbie Keane 42 Jermaine Pennant 42 Chris Brunt 42 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 41 Michael Carrick 40 Steed Malbranque 39 Shaun Wright-Phillips 38 Andrew Cole 38 Paolo Di Canio 38 Theo Walcott 38 Carlos Tevez 38 Gabriel Agbonlahor 38 Robert Pires 37 Emile Heskey 37 Emmanuel Adebayor 37 Matthew Etherington 36 Luis Boa Morte 36 Steven Pienaar 36 Bobby Zamora |
coogar:I doesnt matter. He scored 27 goals. His diagonal passes to our effective wingers caused it. This is why he still love diagonal passes. |
StarBoard:Starboard, long time. Sorry I thought you were the one. I wondered where you have been. May be I should have sent you a mail. But why the insults? |
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So Rooney defies the laws and rules of football? 