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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:37am On Mar 30, 2015
Pius Ikedia still interested in Spurs deal
24 Jan 2005
Tottenham have found themselves in a legal row over their pursuit of winger Pius Ikedia. Although AZ look to have won the race to secure former Ajax winger Pius Ikedia, Tottenham have confirmed that they are still interested in signing the flyer. Ikedia is in fact still currently owned by Ajax until the end of this season, but has spent the last three years for some obscure reason away from the Amsterdam giants on loan deals to RBC and Groningen. The 24-year-old African opted to sign a pre-contract with Dutch leaders AZ Alkmaar - despite interest from Tottenham but now appears to have had a change of heart.Tottenham director of football Frank Arnesen revealed: "I admit we have a big interest in Ikedia and that we have spoken to him in London.

Ikedia chooses AZ above Tottenham
15 Jan 2005
Tottenham Hotspur have missed out on the services of Pius Ikedia, with the forward plumping for a move to AZ Alkmaar next summer instead.
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However, Ikedia decided to join current league leaders AZ, when his contract with Ajax expires in the summer.Although he is owned by Ajax, Ikedia has spent the last three years away from the Amsterdam giants.The Nigeria international has spent the last two years with RBC Roosendaal after spending a season with FC Groningen.Jol is keen to bring the brightest talents in the Eredivisie to Tottenham, and believes that Ikedia has the potential to become a major player.
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Meanwhile, AZ have claimed they have signed Pius Ikedia for next season.The Nigerian striker, currently on loan at RBC Roosendaal from Ajax, had reportedly been a target for Tottenham.



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This guy went with his former Ajax coach to AZ instead to Tottenham in 2005. He missed a good chance of advancing his career. He yabbed. In football you don't take a step backward when there is a chance to move forward. There was a certain Bellamy in Man City who did something like this never rose again, he opted to go to his Cardiff his home time club instead of numerous interests from EPL teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
raumdeuter:
Ajax has one of the best academies in EUrope and if you cant refine your game in AJax, then no one can redeem you.

Ajax would actually put you among small kids and teach you how to control the ball, how to look up etc

Ikedia played for Insurance which was known for youth developments and Also ASEC mimosas

Ikedia was a typical monkey post player who couldnt refine his game

Before Ikedia Ajax used to take all Nigerian Right wingers until Ikedia ruined it with his senseless football
Ikedia did not play for Ajax academy. Ikedia went straight into the first team.

Ikedia years for Insurance and Asec combined was not up to two years.

Ajax only took two of our right wingers. And Kanu was a striker. Why did Ajax not take another striker from Nigeria. Our outing in 2002 world cup was what ruined our export of players to Europe. We used kids for the world cup and they were hurriedly assembled by Onigbinde. The NFA guys plotted against Amodu Shuaibu.

Wenger was once asked why he doesn't hire Nigerian players after Kanu. He said Nigeria has stopped producing talents. That was NFA bad work of 2002. Then we missed 2006 world cup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:29am On Mar 30, 2015
coded01:
1995! Nope... He didn't... grin
More trol from the troller? grin

Good night. Election results are full of surprises. lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:28am On Mar 30, 2015
raumdeuter:
Ikedia graduated from secondary school in 1994. I think he attended Mafoluku

Ikedia had good speed and dribbling ability, It was his decision making that was faulty
1994 = 16-18 years.
1999 = 21-23 years.

There was someone who was so convinced he didn't take more than two years from his age. It also meant he went to Ajax first team with all his raw ability. Unlike many others who had the opportunity to refine their games with some years in Nigeria league or oversea academy or a lesser oversea club. With proper grooming and mentoring, his decision making would have been refined.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:57pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
Na even you dey troll! grin


Why bring in torres for this matter? angry
To prove that Moses was the true highest scorer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
Who fault is it if he refused instructions? angry


Are you for real? Comparing Oliseh's importance to Victor's for the National Team... shocked grin I rest my case... lipsrsealed
You have a problem understanding English?

Oliseh is on my list. Moses on my list and you are talking about comparison. I don't get you people at all. I was even praising Oliseh for his movements from club to club.

Some of you guys need to go study logic in school. I don tire for u sef.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:53pm On Mar 29, 2015
Moses scored more goals more than Oscar, Hazard and Mata combine together and he was the one to go. Talk of frustrating Nigeria players.

Oscar 407 mins
Moses 427 mins
Mata 493 mins
Hazard 452 mins

Imagine.

Pass accuracy. Moses beat Oscar in chances created as well as pass accuracy per minutes.

Moses was second behind Hazard in dribbling.

Whoscored rated Moses the best for Chelsea in the Europa.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
Can you tell us where Torres is playing @ the moment? grin


Why is going for trials @ every club instead of maturing... grin
Torres is not my guy na. You know who to ask about Torres.

You dey trol?

Bye!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:41pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
It only shows my surprise @ his inclusion... grin
Someone who won us the nation's cup? Without him, Ethiopia were sending us home from group stage. He was a problem for Ivory Coast and Mali. He won the tournament 2nd best, and it could be argued he was cheated.

He did well in the qualifying matches too. Later Keshi had to shake his confidence when he said he wasn't playing to instruction and not retracting enough.

coded01:
Others are fine but your favorite one seems to be going from one club to another for trials... grin grin
I dont get it. Who else on the list? Oliseh played for 6 big clubs. Not his fault he was needed everywhere.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On Mar 29, 2015
* Mourinho love for players who could add defensive duty meant Moses had to be sent away.

* Liverpool had some players who played their best football ever and Moses, a newbie, couldn't find the confidence to settle.

Before his injury he was Stoke best player and one of the best in EPL in August and September 2014.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:31pm On Mar 29, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
grin grin grin


Chai... ELAMPS BABA

ELENU
Moses scored 4 goals as a winger in 427 minutes. Torres, a striker scored 6 goals in 810 minutes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:27pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
For where? shocked



What is he doing in stoke? From Chelsea - Liverpool - Stoke... shocked Still young! 24yrs... grin



Is he improving or what? grin
is it only Victor Moses you saw on my list? I like him. Thats all. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coded01:
Smh... grin grin


Elampiro, my issue is where is he now? lipsrsealed
Moses is injured. He is in Stoke. He was the highest goal scorer for Chelsea in the Europa. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:53pm On Mar 29, 2015
Mats Hummels has refused to rule out a move to Manchester United after admitting that he would like a move to play abroad.
In an interview with Kicker he responded to questions over Louis van Gaal's interest by revealing that he is open to quitting the Bundesliga for a new challenge.
The World Cup winner has now conceded that trying his hand in a new league is a priority for his development as a footballer.
Asked about the wooing of foreign clubs like Manchester United Hummels said: "Often I think that, one day, I want to play abroad but there are also days when I say I don't need that. But I think the experience abroad is good for the development of a player.
"I have made no decision. I am not the sort of guy who talks about staying at the club when they've already decided to leave.
"Everyone knows how much I like to play for Dortmund but I also want to play with a powerful team and a powerful approach.
"Whether or not we are playing in the Europa League has no influence on my decision."
[Source: Kicker.de]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Mar 29, 2015
coded01:
grin shocked grin
That guy won us the nation's cup. May be with Mba. Pls nobody should come and tell me how many goals Emenike scored or all bullshit stats.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On Mar 29, 2015
A40:
Loool e be like say na him height dey deceive you! Young ko Ashley ni. Ninja please stop chatting that megedefegede dude was merely a midget and a monumental flash in the pan. Woeful delivery, zero Football IQ and all round poor decision maker with no end product whatsoever



Ikedia was definitely quicker than Finidi. During Finidi's heyday speed was not an essential commodity for players on the flank
Finid didnt have speed? Ukwu!!!

Finidi out paced his markers uncountable times, went behind the defence to deliver a tap in for Yekini or other forwards.

Ikedia is the only Nigeria winger I can remember who never relied on speed to get past his markers. He used mostly his body swerves to get his markers off his way. Elahor relied on team work. Finidi needed to run down the line to deliver a cross. Amuneke was pace and power with scoring ability. Tijani was a diminutive jet.

Ikedia is the best dribbler Nigeria ever produced. The only one who I could remember that would have a man directly in his front and he takes him away in a second with body swerves. He didnt mind how many men were line up ahead of him, he was ready to go.

A40:
Ikedia had speed which he relied on heavily to dribble which is why when the injuries piled he became useless because he had no other outstanding ability
Just tell me you didnt know him jor. Injury, kill players irrespective of whether they have speed or not. Just look like Falcao who destroyed Chelsea's defence before. Eduardo of Arsenal.

The clips and articles provided here so far have shown Ikedia relied 90% on his dribbling. I am yet to see where he did straight line speeding runs like Tijani/Finidi/Amuneke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:50pm On Mar 29, 2015
Princefame1:
LET me mail u...reply asap..
I am trying to recover the mail I used for nairaland. It's telling me they can't recognize my new device. I will reply once it's okay.

Meanwhile, are from Auchi?
Did you play football too or u be Ebiaku Silvanus or Alex Jebba? cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:34pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
Did anyone argue with you that Ikedia had no skill?
I earlier corrected someone who compared Ikedia to Tijani....i said Ikedia could dribble but Tijani was a sprinter. Its obvious Ikedia is one of your favourite players like Rooney but sorry bros your man lacked sense. he could run, he could dribble but he couldnt make right decisions on the pitch.
AND HE HIMSELF IN A VIDEO SENT PERSONALLY TO YOU SAID HE WAS KNOWN FOR HIS PACE .......A PACE HE KEPT UNTIL HIS 34TH BIRTHDAY grin
My favourites have been such guys like Keshi, Nwosu, Finidi, Amokachie, Sunday Oliseh, Kanu Nwankwo, Babayaro, Okechukwu, . Recently, Enyeama Victor Moses. Some more I may have forgotten to mention. Ikedia didnt have the opportunity to advance his skills and unique football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:29pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
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I agree with you. while Ikedia got pace and dribbling in his teenage years he did not get sense.......and that is what doomed his football career.
Injury doomed him, just like Eduardo.

May be na home problem sef - as they used to say in Naija. Edurance Idahor died on the field when things were getting brighter and brighter.


End of argument. It's usually not good to argue too much when we are into a match week. Bye!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:25pm On Mar 29, 2015
Princefame1:
alright....are u from AUCHI?
I was born in Auchi and I grew up there. I wont be too specific with details here. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:20pm On Mar 29, 2015
Princefame1:
which state are u from?
Edo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:18pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
cheesy

You argue in a very very funny and basic manner.
Ikedia had pace and i earlier said he could dribble unlike Tijani. My difference with you is that you said it was pace that stopped him being great. Then later you changed mouth that it was devil injury.
The truth is that Ikedia lacked intelligence on the pitch, that is what killed him.....he never utilized the ball effectively despite all his moves.
And your clip showed Ikedia exhibiting skills at old age. cheesy


e dey body.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
lmao!!!!!!

I knew you would mention that. Are we talking of Ikedia at 24 or at 34? That video was of Ikedia playing amateur football in his mid 30s (official age) and you want him to still have the speed of his younger years? What kind of logic is that?
Why not post a video of Ronaldo da Lima at 34 or Giggs at 38 to show they never had pace?

How fast is Ronaldinho at this moment? or Adokie Amiesimaka? cheesy
Tijani never was able to play that way wether at 20 or 25 or 30 or 35 or 40 0r 45. grin

If Ikedia didnt have the skills, you would see him trying to run and outpace his marker. You dont develop skills at old age. Anything you couldn't get in your teenage years- forget it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:12pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
Unless Ikedia graduated secondary school at age 12 or 13 the man removed 4-5 years from his age. Ikedia that was doing "mercenary" as far back as 1995?
Secondary school players do Mercenary na. You no play ball? Footballers develop faster.

Sylvanus Ebiaku, Karimu Shuaibu and some other guys were leaving school to travel to represent teams which hired players. Ebiaku was already travelling when he was in JSS 3 or so. He is built like a boxer (a Phil Jones kind of power player), that you would think he was 5 years older than his age.But I was his senior. These guys took all the risk and we thought they were senseless then. They werent the most skillful, may be the most determined and those whose parents gave them all the freedom. Also they were motivated with the fact that many Auchi players were beginning to break into top clubs in Nigeria- like Alex Jebba who played with Gabros and later won the FA cup with Begers (injury plague him too and eneded his career prematurely) . The Ebiaku guy did his appendicitis and in a few days he was already playing and we were shouting if he wanted to kill himself.

Ebiaku played for Keshi's Flying Eagles with his real age. I think that slowed his career. He was again invited when Keshi took over Eagles but he couldnt make it into the final squad for preparation for AFCON 2013.

Except you are sure or know someone very well, don't guess his age.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:43pm On Mar 29, 2015
Afrodoc has finished himself with that clip. cheesy

See Ikedia dancing his markers off his path. No single pace involved. See close control.






















Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo. cheesy Argument is over.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:39pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
Kai i praise Coogar for arguing with you. I told you that one of the hall marks of Ikedia was his PACE you said it was a lie, now Ikedia is telling you via youtube that EVERYBODY KNEW HIM FOR HIS SPEED and you are still doubting. Elamps in case you don't know SPEED and PACE are the same in this context cheesy
I am not sure you watched the video you posted.

WATCH THAT VIDEO AGAIN AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE. SPEED OR DRIBBLING?

That clip just supported my points. Ikedia dances you out of his way. No speed or power. Lokk at what he did inside the box sef, after many years off his peak.







Ukwu!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:33pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
Oh you don't have enough MB i will help you cheesy.
He said "I still have my SPEED WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS ME FOR , right from my Ajax days"
Did he say he didn't know have to dribble?

He said he had his speed and that didnt mean he was the fastest in the world or near Messi's speed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:26pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
Listen to what Pius Ikedia himself said 2.55 into the video....or you want to argue with Pius himself? cheesy




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_R2YEzl44&feature=player_detailpage
What did he say? "I didn't know how to dribble"?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:23pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
But of course you are the only one that watched him.....others didn't have money to buy ticket or buy TV?
Ikedia that was playing for years in Lagos before relocating to Benin. Anyway i know you have stamina for arguments.....You are right, lack of pace limited Ikedia from becoming like Messi not the fact that he used to dribble until he ran past the corner flag cheesy
..and there was someone who said he knew Ikedia in school in Lagos and at most he reduced only two years from his age when he played in 1999. How true about that, I can't tell about that.

Ikedia only needed to be nurtured and I think Ajax would have helped him but the injury. If he had gone to a smaller club, h could have come through the rank a more matured player. He focused too much on his dribbling. Every time he had the ball, the oppositions piled up bodies to the right flank, but Ikedia was delighted to take them on one after another.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:08pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
what is your point sef?
Ikedia had PACE and lots of STUPIDITY.......THAT IS 100 PERCENT FACT.
Now you are changing to "devil injury" i thought you said it was lack of pace that killed him.....now who is changing mouth? grin
Injury killed his career. If not for the injury and if he had the speed of Messi he would be playing for one of top 3 clubs in the world today.

A player with stupidity wouldn't be described as outwitting defenders with his repertoire of dribbling skills. Nothing like pace there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:03pm On Mar 29, 2015
afrodoc2:
I capitalized STUPIDITY when i first mentioned it, u were the one who said Ikedia did not have pace...which is very incorrect.
I already mentioned that Ikedia could dribble unlike Tijani who was straight line sprinter. What i disagreed with was your statement that lack of pace limited Ikedia, it was lack of sense that limited him

Bros i don't need to form, who is Ikedia that i need to form? I was following Naija football as far back as the days of Toyin Ayinla, Raymond King ,Steve Botchway, Collins Ebitimi, John Benson e.t.c I was midway through Uni when Ikedia joined Ajax, don't assume you are talking to an EPL era fan.
I said if only he had the pace of Messi. I didnt say he didnt have pace at all. You guys like to misquote or change my statements alot.

Even if you had followed Nigeria football since Odegbami, you wouldnt know much of Ikedia because he didnt play much in the local league. His was rushed into the top of world football immediately he was discovered. Even Odemwingie, the one they were calling 'ebo' (yellow) way back in Ogbe stadium had much more time in the local league. Pius was rushed to the very top and he had no time to even think what was happening to him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:58pm On Mar 29, 2015
You guys started out by saying Ikedia had pace and stupidity. Now you have changed you statement to 'he dribbled and looked at the ground'. And I was the first to point out that he always looked at the ball.

This tell me you guys never knew him in his good days. It's just unfortunate this guy's career got truncated by a 'devil' injury.

In terms of removing a marker from the road 'see me see', no one else ever did it like Ikedia. So easy and simple no gidigidi inlvolved'.

I rest my case.

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