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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:08am On Apr 13, 2015
coogar:
you dunno a lot.



please stop highlighting isolated games. how come the same madrid were barca's bitchës for more than 3 seasons? where was madrid's pace & power when barca tonked them 5-0?



where was netherland's pace & power at the world cup final in 2010. did robben not play that match? who offered the pace & power when cleverley & carrick mauled city at the etihad or when they destroyed chelsea @ the bridge in 2012/13?



you don't need any yeye power to beat teams. barcelona & spain ruled the world for several years without power. it's about passing the ball, looking for opening & striking when the chance comes.

if it's about PAWA, cameroon should be winning the world cup every time it takes place.
When Barca beat Madrid 5-0. Alves was 3 players covering so much ground even for the DMs and right wing. Barca had powerful men like Messi, defenders too to complement. Pace and power was there.

I willcontinue the stuff tomorrow, I am tired for now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:02am On Apr 13, 2015
Arsenal using some pace and power in their midfield and won 8/8. Chamberlain defeated us in Old Trafford with pace and power. We have only won 6/6 yet Coogar thinks we have the best form in the EPL.

Not only Herrera and Carrick that have beaten City.
Since Yaya Toure went to AFCON.

Manchester City2 : 2Burnley Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2 Arsenal Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2Midlebrough

Liverpool 2 : 1Manchester City Match Report

Burnley 1 : 0 Manchester City Match Report

Crystal Palace 2 : 1 Manchester City Match Report





Bye!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:51pm On Apr 12, 2015
Rafael replace Val?

Nani replace Young?











Ukwu!!! I give up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
when?
when rooney was in the midfield? can rooney pass the ball without going sideways to valencia? you really underestimate the work carrick, herrera and mata are doing with those quick forward passes they offer.

go and check the match stats - compare our passing accuracy to city. then check the last time any PL team dominated city the way we did. fellaini provides an option when our defence is pressed & de gea hits it directly at him.

guy, you need to start watching games with maximum concentration.
Was Rooney in our midfield when we drew West Brom 2-2, and some other games like that?

I knew this argument was going to end in Rooney. You get problem.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
elampawa thinks it's just pace & power.
There is nothing you know I dont already know.

When Madrid beat Bayern in UCL semi last season, it was only pace and power that saw them do that.

Same way Robben led Netherlands destroyed Spain.

When you have some players like Mascherano, Ronaldo, Robben and Ribery using their strength with a good all round team mate, nothing can stop them.


I don tire sef good night.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:44pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
fellaini is too far away from the midfield action. he's almost playing in the hole but a bit closer to young.

the tactics is simple but yet effective - we are only overloading on the fullbacks while having 3 gifted technicians in the central midfield who can pass & move the ball quickly.

that long kick from de gea had 2 of our players on zabaleta. he got outnumbered & he conceded the cross that got the first goal. check the spurs & liverpool game - it was the same ish.

this isn't about pawaful midfield - without carrick, herrera & mata(license to roam) knitting the passes from deep to evade pawaful midfielders, fellaini's physicality would be hopeless.
Remove Fellaini, Ashley Young and Valencia. United will be the worst team in the EPL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
because we weren't playing this system then. we weren't punishing our opponents. it's nothing to do with pawa. it's just about being smart & using the ball intelligently.
No we played this 4-1-4-1 on some occasions and they were still poo. Although Blind played in some of the matches instead of Carrick.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
fellaini - 10
young - 11

they have nothing to do with the midfield battle. it's herrera & carrick in the centre of the midfield and they are not pawaful. grin
You no know ball. Why do Herrera and Carrick always useless whenever either or both Young and Fellaini got injured? Even when Mata featured.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:30pm On Apr 12, 2015
The problem with City is that Toure used up all his energy in the African sun playing AFCON. Same with Bony. When Toure isnt playing well, Silva is useless. Milner was a problem for us today, but once Val was told to stay back, Milner was finished.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:23pm On Apr 12, 2015
Young and Fellaini are very physical. I wonder what Coogar means. Valencia is offering all his pace and power to protect so much for us.



abeg, I don log out. Coogar is confused.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:21pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
we shall witness that pawa next weekend when ivanovic gets isolated with fellaini & young. cheesy



we have not struggled since the arsënal game in the cup tie & we have faced some pawaful midfielders in that time.
Fellaini is more powerful than these other guys from other teams. Valencia is also running out of position into DM zone to protect.

However, we are not title contenders. Chelsea will be champions from the look of things.

Young is powerful. Dont forget.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:17pm On Apr 12, 2015
coogar:
i can't believe my eyes....
you mean the midfield pawa of toure & fernandino might miss the top 4. which is which, really?

is pawa needed in the midfield or not? grin
They are the champions. Remember. Another power team is leading the log.

We have been struggling in past fixtures against these teams.


* Without Fellaini, we would get roasted in midfield. He adds some physicality.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:08pm On Apr 12, 2015
I wont be surprised if City is the team that misses out of top 4.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:26pm On Apr 12, 2015
David De Gea 29 mins · Facebook
Proud to be Red, proud of the crowd! Keep on! Orgulloso de ser Red, orgulloso de esta afición! Seguimos! Manchester United
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DDG just posted that on his facebook:

Translation: Proud to be red, proud of the crowd! Keep on! Proud to be red, proud of this hobby! We are still! Manchester United
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:02pm On Apr 12, 2015
Dadehmola:
You wan make them lose form??

You can use another noun or verb or whatever but please, no mention that name here again !! angry angry
I did not mention Cleverley. I said Cleverly. cheesy lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:51pm On Apr 12, 2015
Remaining fixtures:
Tottenham
Liverpool
Aston Villa
Man City
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Arsenal
Everton














Kekenaelf





























Ukwu!!! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:48pm On Apr 12, 2015
Congratulations to everyone of us. Top four is now sure. Win 3/6 and we are there. I pray Carrick recovers. We need to keep Blind in left back and Carrick's coordination is needed in the midfield.

City paid attention too much to blocking us on the wings, then Herrera had a field day in the middle.

The United team is a big problem to solve. Young and Blind on the left and Jones covering behind.
Fellaini is a real Man[b]chest[/b]er. He is hard to solve, and he offers a hand to the guys in the left.
Mata and Herrera passing cleverly.
Valencia, you are never going to outpace him.
Smalling and Jones can comfortably play a high line defence. If they can do that against City, they can do it always. But Jones should pass less to DDG. Although he later used his left foot very well, passing forward.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:34pm On Apr 12, 2015
Leyqute:
Of course, his attention was on the right side.
Football is like that. Sometimes you wished you knew how good a team mate was placed to receive a pass, or even if you knew, you wished you had made another decision given a second chance. It happens every time. Just think about Young missed header. He wanted to place it in the right corner, shortly after he would curse his luck for not just heading straight to see if Hart could save.

Decision in football happen in split seconds.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:09pm On Apr 12, 2015
Leyqute:
Fellaini shouldve gotten his second. Elampiro pls acknowledge Rooney's flaws. That pass had Fellai written all over it yet english Pele sent it to the right wing.

Rooney. You can't praise him and u can't kill him at the same time.

Anytime HerMatVal loses the ball going forward City pounces. SMH

Good game anyways.
Rooney didn't know Fellaini was there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:10pm On Apr 11, 2015
I won't argue further. Your sentiment is too much. Rooney played very well in midfield not just the goals in those three or four matches. Same as under SAF when he was not scoring

Finally, we TOO played in 4-1-4-1 with Mata, Herrera, Di Maria and Fellini behind him, he never felt Rooney or Falcao could be dispensed. RVP was obviously and desperately poor.





See you tomorrow.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:03pm On Apr 11, 2015
when Rooney got a red card, he was our best striker up to that point. Then we won 1 drew 2 in his absence. Coogar, you said we avoided defeat because 'bad luck' Rooney was away.

Now we have won 5/5 EPL games in absence of 'good luck' Jona.. sorry, I meant RVP. Coogar wishes RVP should go straight to leading the line.

Coogar is nawa!







Ukwu!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:44pm On Apr 11, 2015
coogar:
falcao played in this game & one of the goals was an awoof penalty.



not a league game.



this was when the philosophy actually clicked. he had a decent game & scored a wonderful goal.



he was the poorest player on the pitch until the goal. he was also the poorest player of the 22 players at anfield.



that was after missing a CCC that ashley young provided by dragging the shot wide. no one is after rooney's life - i am just reiterating the fact that rooney isn't the reason we are playing well of late. rooney has actually performed poorer in the the 4-1-4-1 formation judging by his output against villa & liverpool.

the reason we are playing well is because rooney has been taken out of the midfield for the more technically gifted players who can pass the ball super-accurately & make more forward passes quickly rather than sending it diagonally like rooney was doing when he was in the midfield.
As I said, I am not here for argument. RVP was not in the games he played as a sole striker earlier in the season. Against West Brom he was more a minus 1. He missed CCC and should have passed another Mata for a tap into empty net, but RVP decided to score but shot horribly wide. These were 4-1-4-1 formations.

I am yet to see any post here attributing our good games to Rooney. o I don't know why you started this. However, Rooney has been providing an options upfront and helping to drag the defenders away from others. He doesn't just stay stagnant in front of the two central defenders or in front of the 6 yard box. His movements have been very key to providing opening for others in the 18 box area.


As for the midfield. Rooney was unlucky to play in midfield when we experimented with such players like McNair in the right back. Fellaini and Ashley Young were still injured at the time, and most importantly we played two strikers which meant the midfield was one man less. Under SAF Rooney played midfield in some matches across three seasons, and he was being likened to Scholes as we won over 90% of thlose matches. In 2012/13, when we beat Villa to reach unassailable lead for the title, Rooney was a class in the midfield. Sometimes, some players are not happy being sacrificed persistently and their performance gets affected. Rooney played in the midfield against Liverpool, Villa and Hull and scored 3 good goals before his form dropped there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:59pm On Apr 11, 2015
Rooney has scored 5 goals in 6 matches as a sole striker.

Last season he averaged more than a goal per match when he played as a sole striker.

Why do people like dragging this man down? Abeg jor!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:56pm On Apr 11, 2015
Some people can lie. Where did anyone mention that Rooney and Jones have to play midfield for United to make top 4?

Any way I no get time for argument. Tomorrow on my mind.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:53pm On Apr 11, 2015
Since RVP's injury, Rooney has scored 5 goals as the sole striker. When RVP played as sole striker in the absence of Rooney and Falcao, he was only about to score 1 goal against Chelsea.

Rooney's goals since RVP's injury:
vs Sunderland 2 goals.
vs Arsenal 1 goal.
vs Tottenham 1 goal
vs Villa 1 goal.

He forced a goal against Newcastle in what could have been a goalless draw. He was heavily involved for Herrera's 2nd against Villa. Must Rooney be brought down to make a case for RVP?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:24am On Apr 11, 2015
Hahahahahaha, it's good to find excuses for some players. Smalling also jumped too early against Burnley or a costly mistake from a young defender? Ukwu!

Phil Jones has not even hit 25 years yet. The age central defenders mature, that's even when they have been playing there for years.


Coogar, no argument. Tomorrow is our big match. A match we should win to put one hand in our top four finish.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:12am On Apr 11, 2015
Van Gaal revealing his tactics? Anyway, he knows City can not start playing long balls overnight, else they wont even have a shape.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05am On Apr 11, 2015
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1084707204887027&set=vb.220832481274508&type=2&theater

That painful Vincent Kompany's goal. If only Vidic were there it would never have happened.

If dopejemi had started watching football then, he would say Smalling had no brain. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:59am On Apr 11, 2015
Van Gaal: Man City not as dangerous as Aston Villa


Apr 11, 2015 09:56:00
The Dutchman believes the champions' short passing game and attacking mindset will play into the hands of his side when they meet on Sunday

The Red Devils warmed up for Sunday's derby with a 3-1 win over Villa on Saturday, with Ander Herrera netting twice and Wayne Rooney also getting himself on the scoresheet.

City, meanwhile, continued their torrid recent form with a 2-1 defeat away to Crystal Palace on Monday that left their hopes of retaining the Premier League title in tatters.

And Van Gaal insists that City's style of play makes them less problematic for United than Villa as the Red Devils look to boost their chances of getting second place.

“Villa were more defensive but I don’t expect City to play as defensively as Villa did, and then you need a lot of focus and concentration in defence,” the Dutchman told reporters.

“A long ball is very difficult to defend. But against City I don’t expect many long balls – and that is why I have less fear against City, in spite of the loss in the last game against them.

“On Sunday we have to wait and see if we can continue our good shape against City. I had more fear for Villa than City because every player shall be motivated and want to win.”

United lost 1-0 to City at the Etihad Stadium back in November after Chris Smalling was sent off, and Van Gaal warns his players must display cooler heads in the heat of derby battle this time around.

"I have started our preparation with talking about red cards – not the red card of Smalling,” he added.

“I am always warning in these kind of games that we have to control our emotion. We have had five red cards. Unbelievable. It is a record in my career as a manager. That is not good.

“Control of emotions is a talent. You have a lot of talents to have to be a professional player and you know when you have already a yellow card you don’t have to make a second foul to get a second card. You have to know that. But also that is a learning process.”
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2015/04/11/10653702/van-gaal-man-city-not-as-dangerous-as-aston-villa?ICID=AR_RS_1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:53am On Apr 11, 2015
Mourinho: Hazard the only option for Player of the Year

Apr 11, 2015 07:43:00
The attacker has enjoyed a superb season for Chelsea, with the club set to win the Premier League title, and he has been backed to win the individual award by his coach

Jose Mourinho says that Eden Hazard is “by far” the best player in the Premier League and believes there can be no other choice for the winner of the PFA Player of the Year award.

The likes of Tottenham striker Harry Kane – who has scored 29 goals in all competitions this season – and Liverpool playmaker Philippe Coutinho have been tipped as potential challengers to Hazard as the season draws to a close.

However, Mourinho has backed the Belgian to beat his competitors to the prize, which was last won by a Chelsea player in 2004-05, when John Terry was rewarded for captaining the Blues to their first league title in 50 years.

"With what he's doing, speaking in a very honest way, it shouldn't even be a debate," Mourinho told reporters.

"If somebody throws other names on the table, it's because they want to sell papers, to throw sand into people's eyes. This player is by far the best player of this season."


Mourinho has also rebuffed the suggestions that the Blues have strolled through the campaign, insisting that this title race has been the most difficult of his managerial career

Chelsea have led the Premier League table since August, and now sit seven points clear of second-placed Arsenal, having played a game less.

But Mourinho said: “No, in England this league is more difficult than the others I’ve played. More teams involved in the title race. First period it was us, United and Arsenal. At this moment, also City and Liverpool and Tottenham.

“The quality of the mid-table teams is also important and more difficult. Has the title race been boring, why? We didn’t dominate.

“It’s more fun when we are champions. That’s the funny moment.”

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2015/04/11/10653072/mourinho-hazard-the-only-option-for-player-of-the-year

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Seconded! Mourinho truely knows football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:14pm On Apr 10, 2015
I think Nasri will start for City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:53pm On Apr 10, 2015
SailorXY:
look like its a full squad now. wish we had the luck earlier in the season, we could have settled as a team quickly!

Rooney, RvP & Falcao can't really be here together next season, they all carry names that will refuse to be on the bench with LvG's preferred 4-3-3 needing just one target CF.

Falcao looks highly likely to leave unless a bid comes in for RvP. we can recall Henriquez or Hernandez (very unlikely) while Wilson has a year on loan. if Young can rediscover himself under LvG - Hernandez can become lethal as well.

### this Depay making the rounds is a good player, but with his acquisition, what does that make of Young, di Maria & Nani; assuming Januzaj goes on loan?
It will be a miracle to see Nani and Chicha return to Man United.
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* Nani

Feb 27th
The Portuguese international moved to Sporting on a season-long loan deal in the summer, but despite wanting to give life at Old Trafford another shot, he has admitted that communication has been poor.

The winger claims that Dutch tactician van Gaal has not spoken with him since he made the switch to Portugal, and that the communication must get better if he is to return to the United fold next season.

When asked by BT Sport if van Gaal had been in touch regarding his progress this season, Nani replied, as reported by The Mirror: “No. I receive some texts from Ed Woodward. He texted me about the goal and the great season I am having here. I used to speak to Antonio Valencia, but I changed my number so it’s difficult.”

“I knew with the new manager it would be more difficult because of the new system and my position in it.

“I knew it would be hard to play. I decided to go to Sporting because it was an opportunity to come home, feel comfortable, get games and feel strong again.

“At the moment I just focus on my job here. I’ll do my best and get in the best condition I can, then come back as strong as possible and see what the manager or the club want from me.”


Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/manchester-uniteds-nani-claims-louis-van-gaal-hasnt-spoken-to-him-since-loan-switch/314570#l5ROJAreiiQc3L5C.99
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Louis van Gaal ready to let Nani leave Manchester United permanently - report

April 1st
http://thepeoplesperson.com/2015/04/01/louis-van-gaal-wants-sell-nani-report-85408/
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As for Chicharito, I think he will not be taken back. Same thing would have happened to Welbeck if he were on loan. Although Welbeck would have stood a better chance due to a number of ways he can be used- utility.

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