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[quote author=mcfarlin post=/post/26829620]skysports comparison of costa and welbeck[/quote]Whoever did that comparision should be sacked. It will make more sense comparing Chicharito who is an out and out striker to Costa.

coogar: we had welbeck & hernandez.
there's no way rooney would displace any of those two in the forward position as well cos they have more pace than rooney in a 4-3-3.

there's no way you can put sneijder & rooney in the same team regardless of the formation. rooney would have had to give way to sneijder - they both have the same function.

* I heard you oooo. Gaal had only two formations- 3-5-2 and 4-3-3.

* On United 4-3-3 formation, Rooney has beasted everyone (except CR7) from time immemorial to date.




So keep your opinion to yourself.

StarBoard: Not sure what you mean. Really, I don't get the Cleverley part.
You clearly turn a blind eye to Rooney's two transfer requests to get away from United.
But you want to slander other people in favour of a sub-par traitor Rooney.

It's a free world sir. Ride on.

How was your voluteer job at the ebola quarantine centre? I heard you were in the intensive care unit that you couldn't post online for so long. When the relieve came you started posting pictures from the movies you used to while away time during the peak of the ebola battle. lol I knew your first real post would be to attack Rooney. I thought the captaincy stuff has been debated and forgotten since. BinghiNya was said to be also a volunteer, but he wasn't in the intensive care unit. Hence he had the time to post twice weekly. U're welcome back sir.

* I don't know the polictics behind Rooney asking for a transfer, he may not have been his fault. CR7 forced a transfer without giving us an option to hold him back even for 1 million/week.

* If you were a professional footballer, what would you do if another club (Man City) came for you(Rooney) with 100% increase in your salary and you know this career doesnt last at all? I learnt Rooney even had to take a cut to stay in 2010.

* In 2013, Rooney wasn't clear as to what SAF wanted to do with him. SAF brought Kagawa a number 10. He brought RVP a number 9. The Rooney got played in the midfield and wing a few times, and got dropped against Madrid. This came after he was used as a deep player to stop Di Maria/CR7+ Coentrao from the right defensive side of the midfield. If you were a professional, wouldn't you have asked the boss where your career was headed so that you can fix it yourself?

coogar: even if we assume the so called sneijder interest was true for argument's sake, rooney would have been the man to vacate his position in the hole & probably sit on the bench. rooney isn't ever going to displace van persie in the centre forward position.

lol.

At that time Falcao had not been signed and there wouldn't have been who displaces who in the striking role had United decided not to sign Falcao. The coach could also have gone for a flat 4-3-3, no hole at all. Like Gaal played in the second half vs Mexico.

PietroRico: the interview happened.
But it isn't to be taken seriously.
Na 2day players begin use 'man utd interest' claim level?

I hear you. Carry on. I reserve the rest of my comments.

I see no way Gaal favoured Rooney for the captaincy. Afterall, Fletcher and Cleverley were tried first being older members of the United family than Rooney.

The gallery Gaal ought to have danced or played to was 'the call by English press and fans to drop Rooney' from the team. I think Gaal is only true to what he believes is the right thing. If there has been any pressure about Rooney, it has to be about him being dropped- a call some people promoted after they misunderstood Paul Scholes article.

* RVP was made first choice striker when he was probably our worst player.

Like we are novice here. Everyone knows consultations are on for a long period before bids are made. Nobody heed about Falcao's negotiations until the last minute. Sam with Blind.

PietroRico: so u believed that bullshiiit interview?


Sneijder just wanted to use us feel relevant jare. He's trying to compensate himself over that failed move

Imagine the old cargo coming out to say he turned us down for UCL footie.
Laughable at best.

Mtchew.

That part is ridiculous.

Are you trying to say he didn't grant any interview? Secondly, he cannot be telling lies against Gaal.

Mata may be able to convince Gaal with these three matches. It looks to me that as of now, Gaal doesn't even fancy Mata's style. Sneidjer revealed recently that Gaal wanted him. If Gaal wanted Sneidjer so badly despite he costantly complaining we had too many number 10s, it then meant that Gaal was not at all satisfied with Mata who played the number 10 in preseason and the first few matches of the season.

Odunharry: Van Gaal wants Coentrao

Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal hopes Angel Di Maria and Falcao can persuade Fabio Coentrao to join the club according to the Express.

The Real Madrid defender was linked with United when David Moyes was in charge but went on to sign a new deal at the Bernabeu. Coentrao shares the same agent as the Manchester United summer signings.

Surely he must have been impressed by Rafael's overlapping that he wants someone like him at the other end. But there will be problem defending aerial balls flying into the box. It might be okay thou, if Jones and Smalling learn to battle in the air like Vidic of old.

United agree personal terms with Falcao ahead of £43.5m move - report

03 October 2014 08:03 AM

By Paul Handler

Manchester United are moving closer to a £43.5m permanent deal for Colombian striker Falcao, according to a report.

The Reds secured the 28-year-old on a season's loan from Monaco on transfer deadline day.

But the player has hinted he would like an extended stay at Old Trafford and it seems the club are working to that end.

The Reds have agreed a £250,000 per week salary, plus add ons, report the Daily Mail, and a fee of £43.5m if they decided to take him.

The club are keen to avoid a repeat of the Carlos Tevez situation, when personal terms wrangles ended up in him joining Manchester City.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/united-agree-personal-terms-falcao-7874817

RuuDie: Elampiro brought this up.
My point is, if he is all that as many want to paint him - perhaps he would be in Madrid now, not in N. London!

lol, like Madrid have not had players like Diara and many other waka pass.

Madrid will soon want Welbeck for 40 million.

* In a very serious note, Chicha has not done himself any favour. Welbeck made the better choice. Madrid are only trying to play Chicha at the moment just not to make him feel bad. Otherwise he can be kept on the bench for the whole season and he wont be missed.

Manchester United are attempting to solve their crippling injury list by signing Southampton’s first-team physio Matt Radcliffe.

Louis van Gaal has nine players out with injury ahead of this weekend’s Barclays Premier League fixture with Everton.

Radcliffe is regarded as one for the best physios in football and his last game before he joins United will be Southampton's trip to White Hart Lane on Sunday.

The experienced physio has been lured to United at a time when they are attempting to speed up the recovery rates of a number of their most influential players.

Radcliffe, will be on the bench for the last time for Southampton this weekend before he starts his new role at Old Trafford.

[Source: Daily Mail]

Ji-sung Park returns to Old Trafford

• Former Manchester United player to become Club Ambassador

Former Manchester United midfielder Ji-sung Park will make a return to the club as he takes up his post as Club Ambassador.

To celebrate his appointment, Park will be invited to tread Old Trafford’s hallowed turf once again, with former manager Sir Alex Ferguson before kick-off at the team’s home fixture against Everton on Sunday 5 October. 

As part of his role, the highly decorated player will attend various events and functions on behalf of the club, promoting the work it does within the community and with its partners, sharing anecdotes from his time at Old Trafford.

Park played for United for seven years, from 2005 to 2012, winning an array of accolades, including four Premier League titles, three League Cups, one UEFA Champions League and one FIFA Club World Cup.

He is recognised as the most decorated Asian footballer in history as well as the first Asian player to have won the UEFA Champions League and the FIFA Club World Cup.

Speaking about his appointment, Ji-sung Park comments:

"I have fond memories of my time at Manchester United and I am delighted and honoured to have become an ambassador for the club.

Ji-sung Park returns to Old Trafford

"Some of the best moments of my life and career were spent here and I will never forget the great support I had from the club and the fans. I am looking forward to once again representing United and sharing some of these memories with our global fanbase."

Manchester United Group Managing Director Richard Arnold comments:

"Ji was a fantastic servant for the club and I’m delighted that he is becoming an ambassador for Manchester United. He has always been a favourite with our fans both at Old Trafford and around the world and this new role will give him the chance to meet many of these fans and share his stories. 

"Ji joins a long list of ex-players who are now working with the club in various guises; from ambassadorial appearances, media work and in coaching roles at the Aon Training Complex.  It demonstrates the club’s ability to not only attract some of the best talent in the world, but retain it even after the players have retired."
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2014/Oct/ji-sung-park-becomes-manchester-united-ambassador.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

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Necessary to keep the Asia market booming. Hope we sign another Asia soon. Someone good who will take a squad role.

elampiro: It was his 38th Champions League goal in his 66th appearance in the competition. Only Ruud van Nistelrooy (45 games) and Lionel Messi (59) reached that mark in fewer matches.

From the above stat, it would appear Benzema is the world best number 9 at the moment. Lol

SIRcumalot: Am happy for Welbeck,let him develop at Arsenal and if he becomes a 30 goal a season striker,
We go buy am back,simple

I don't see him developing into that. His ability on 'half chances' is weak. But in football never say never.


* But I love his overall play in the build up process. Immediately he got injured in the preseason, we were no longer dominant. If he started our season, we wouldn't have lost to Swansea.

The above writer said Chicha completed only 5 of his attempted 10 passes in 67 mins.

* This has always been the problem with Chicha, if he is not scoring he is not part of the game and becomes minus one. He also does not do well when started. He's better off a super sub when a goal is desperately needed and he stays in the box, everyone else pushes forward to throw plenty balls into the box to find Chicha.

* How can one make only 5 successful passes in star studded Real Madrid?


Dadehmola, you see the difference? Welbeck had plenty passes, he had 5 dribbles, he had a tackle, he won aerial duels. Even if Welbeck didn't score yesterday, he already did well. This was why SAF preferred him, and any coach in his right senses would. Gaal didn't even want to sell him outrightly but Welbeck decided he needed to go.

Sub-standard Chicharito no rival for Madrid match-winner Benzema

Oct 1, 2014 22:15:00

The Mexican was given a chance to impress by coach Carlo Ancelotti, but looked lost for long periods and Real improved immensely after he was replaced by the Frenchman

By Ben Hayward | Spanish Football Writer

Carlo Ancelotti was true to his word. The Italian coach claimed in August that there would be rotation in 2014-15 - and that all of Real Madrid's players would receive opportunities in the starting XI this season. But Chicharito's chance came and went with a whimper on Wednesday.

The Mexican striker started up front alongside Cristiano Ronaldo away at Ludogorets in Sofia, with Isco and Asier Illarramendi included as well in a 4-4-2 formation which featured Gareth Bale as an orthodox right winger.

So prolific in their last few games, hitting 20 goals in their previous four fixtures, Madrid played poorly in this one and never really found their rhythm until right at the end.

Ludogorets proved a tougher nut to crack then many had anticipated - just as the Bulgarian side had done in the first round of matches against Liverpool - and the home team went ahead early on as Madrid once again failed to deal with a set piece.

Javier Hernandez then won a penalty at the other end in what was his only meaningful contribution of the entire evening. But Ronaldo saw his spot-kick saved by Vladislav Stoyanov and the local fans could not believe what they were witnessing.

Ronaldo also saw a strike ruled out incorrectly for offside and then looked for - and got - another penalty with a blatant dive which followed a neat turn in the area. Against a side considered perhaps the weakest in the entire competition, the European champions had reverted to desperate measures.

Ronaldo scored this time, but Stoyanov guessed right and was close to a second save. With that goal, the Portuguese moved to 69 strikes in the Champions League, now just two behind Raul's record of 71.

Cristiano was invariably involved in Madrid's best work after that and saw a second-half shot cleared off the line. But Chicharito was largely lost, attempting just 10 passes in his 67 minutes, completing a mere five and never looking like a real goal threat with only one shot on target.

Ancelotti had seen enough and sent on Benzema in his place. "I wanted to give Karim a rest because he has played a lot up until now," the Italian said afterwards. "Chicharito played well. He didn't score, but his game was good."

Following the change, however, Madrid improved immediately as the Frenchman linked up with his fellow forwards and scored what turned out to be the winner as he found space to fire home from close range. It was his 38th Champions League goal in his 66th appearance in the competition. Only Ruud van Nistelrooy (45 games) and Lionel Messi (59) reached that mark in fewer matches.

But Benzema does so much more than that and the former Lyon man later set up substitute Toni Kroos for a fantastic chance which the German blasted over the bar.

Chicharito offers none of that and rarely creates for others. It was a sub-standard showing from the Mexican and his performance proved he is better off on the bench, coming on as a late substitute when defences are already tired. For all his hard work and good will, Hernandez highlighted what many already suspected - that he'll never be the first-choice centre-forward at Real Madrid.


http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2014/10/01/5148641/sub-standard-chicharito-no-rival-for-madrid-match-winner?CMPID=FBINT_141001_RealEd

Brisingr: they can't even create chances for balotelli

* How can they create many chances when Sturridge is away.

* How can their chances be much when Balotelli himself has no good build up play? At Man City he had people working for him. Then he muscles himself for the kill.

Dadehmola: ......only to dump us out of the champions league with that 1diotic chip - a testament to the moronic decision making he has always been synonymous with all these years. Aside the slight improvement we saw in his GS record last season( after registering 2 goals in 40 appearances the previous season ), his overall game play wasnt better than that of jozy altidore, bobby zamora and the likes.



how could he have been trained as a 9 when he was more interested in galloping up and down the flanks like a castrated mule?

baba, if you like welbeck reach that level, you fit port go arsenal. its not too late

* in 2012/13, Welbeck scored in Madrid and RVP missed chances in Santiago Bernabue and Old Trafford to bury the match completely.

* Welbeck missed a chip last season but Rooney also missed one or two chances in Allianz Arena. Why is it it's only Welbeck's own that lingers in your memory?

* In 2012/13, if Welbeck wasn't so important for us, why did SAF play him through out the season and we won the league? His work rate must have compensated for RVP/Kagawa/Chicha poor work rate. If you played football, you would understand how important some players are.

* In 2011/12, Welbeck first real season, his goals return was cool. It was only when Welbeck started playing with RVP that he became goals shy. That's because RVP always wants to be in the box, so others drift far to hunt for him.

iheanyi40: oga welbeck has left united and won't return; live with it

If u don't know what to say, drop d mic and walk off d stage.

Dadehmola: What exactly are you insinuating Abeg?

That Welbeck is far better than what you paint on this thread. Last season he scored almost every time he was used as the number 9.

If he had been trained as a 9 all these while, he would by far be a better finisher.

chrisley024: So he becomes useless when one-on-one doesn't show?

That's his problem. But if he plays for Liverpool where one-on-one is much, he would score 20 goals at least.

chrisley024: One-on-one with Neuer?

You can't get it right all the time. When I checked last season, he was doing 85% conversion of his clear cut chances in the EPL. There was no one close to him. Suarez was around 55%.

Four minutes video on all Welbeck 13 goals and 1 assists last season for club and country.

He chip the goalkeeper for about four od the goals. Three of his goals for Man United came from a through ball by Rooney which set him one-on-one with the goalkeeper. I think he is good at converting big chances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thu8MA8ctYw

Welbeck amazing chip over Swansea goalkeeper assisted by another through Rooney's pass. These two....... had an understanding right from 2011/12.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECi_PTbqfCc

Welbeck vs West Ham. Left foot goal beating the goalkeeper from Rooney's assist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk246Lx3DDk

Welbeck one-on-one goal vs Tottehnam last season. Assist from Januzaj.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtRZkAsSPQ

welbeck's 3rd goal.

Dadehmola, do you see the work rate before he scored the goal? From the half line he started the move.

* I kept telling people that Welbeck was the king of CCC last season. He was the best in the EPL beating even Suarez in taking CCC. Mostly when it's one vs one with the goalkeeper. His pace and power usually allow him to come into this scoring situation.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_T8Dn6AI4M

SailorXY: United are not even in Europe, why is this place trending with events of the UCL

There is fun in being a spectator. No pressure, jus laf laf

elampiro: Giroud or Chicha scoring a hatrick is really nothing because they just stay in the box to score. But when someone who does so much across the pitch scores a hatrick, you have to stand up and doff ur hat.

When Yekini or Sisia score two or three gaols in a match, you could be surprised that was their only activity for the day. But when Amokachie scores a brace or a hatrick, you just know that he was wonderful.

Welbeck has 51 touches in 80 mins. That's what you don't get from box strikers.
5 dribbles, 1 tackle. 67% aerial duels won. Interception 1, 1 clearance and 2 key passes.



Rated 10/10.

leggo: Balotelli - penalty, penalty, penalty, penalty ,penalty, fluke goal, 15 game drought, penalty, penalty... Overrated as fucc!!

And Sterling threw away a glorious chance to level.

Dadehmola: How can he when he is more concerned with showcasing his pace and pawa by galloping aimlessly across the pitch?

I really don't understand why you are having èrections over welbeck's goals. Shey the useless giroud sef never score brace before ni?

Giroud or Chicha scoring a hatrick is really nothing because they just stay in the box to score. But when someone who does so much across the pitch scores a hatrick, you have to stand up and doff ur hat.

When Yekini or Sisia score two or three gaols in a match, you could be surprised that was their only activity for the day. But when Amokachie scores a brace or a hatrick, you just know that he was wonderful.