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coogar: any player can score a goal on the pitch. there's no contradiction here.
RVP is a finisher, he waits for the service. it's not possible for him to touch the ball more than rooney who goes searching for the ball in low pressure zones where opponents are not interested in marking. RVP cannot dwell one second on the ball where he's stationed as he's in a high pressure zone. in spite of that, he still boasts a better passing accuracy than rooney who drops deep beyond the centre circle to start playing useless hollywood passes to the flanks like scholes.

so why is rooney in the team? number of touches mean squat when rooney plays majority of those passes backwards anyways. it's not about how many times the ball is touched, it's about what you do with the ball. even with the frequency of rooney's touches, he loses the ball more than the others. so what's the point? RVP is better than rooney if he's played in the hole and statistics have just revealed another vital information that i have been missing since june.


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walahi, rooney should commit suicide.

coogar: see your rooney....

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rooney was more useful when his weekly wage was £250k/week. he's been declining every season since 12/13. look at the stats for feck sake.....

coogar: liar!!!
rooney didn't score a goal from open play that season until the new year. fire wetin immediately? was that not the season berbatov won the golden boot & rooney was reduced to a passenger?



RVP had no preseason.
rooney has played 5-6 more games than RVP, he should be in a better shape than RVP by logic.....

rooney is just a cow.....no common sense, lacks fitness & he's just shyte to the red shirt. sterling & sturridge are about kicking him out of the england team.

Shirley07: You forgot that Rooney was involved in the pre-season games, so he's in better shape than Rvp.

coogar: because rooney had scored goals or assisted plenty before the substitution. why won't he win the MOTM when the people he left on the pitch couldn't subdue what he had done before coming off?

can you not follow a simple logic?

coogar:

because they score goals or assists....
which is beside the point. the point is if player A does exactly as player B on the pitch but player A came off earlier than B then B would naturally get rated higher.

it's simple logic - a player that spent more time on the pitch would complete more passes, more dribbles, etc than the one that came off.



corrected who?
you have never corrected me on this forum. i even introduced you to whoscored & opta. the records are there for you to see so stop punching above your station.

was it not the same you that used to say OPTA is oputa?

how time flies.

coogar: whoscored statistics are shït - everything they do is per game instead of per minutes.

rooney has completed 90 minutes in all the league games we have played, mata & RVP have been used as subs or come off as subs. the rating would be skewed towards a player that stayed more on the pitch.

how can you not see this? rooney plays 90 mins & completes 60 passes. RVP comes off after 60 mins & completes 40 passes.

who scored would say RVP - 40 per game & rooney - 60 per game when it's obvious one of them spent more minutes on the pitch to complete more passes.

the best statistical site is the one i am using and EPLindex. whoscored is outdated with their per game metrics. elampawa, no one is buying your cooked up stats.

RVP & mata>>>>>>> rooney




hahahaha - madam shirley, don't make me cry.

coogar: he's not a defender - he's a creator.
rooney played 90 mins on sunday & yet he couldn't stop leicester from scoring 5. isn't that a pointer rooney is even more useless than mata?

mata in the hole........4-0
rooney in the hole......3-5

the statistics are grim on rooney's part!

coogar: what's the point of dribbling only to lose the ball.

passing accuracy
mata 93%-82% rooney

11% better than rooney in finding those passes. the only reason dribbles is because his passes are wack. dribbling or passing is a means of preventing opponents from getting the ball.

mata is more direct & his passes get to the strikers quicker. rooney is wack, he dribbles and loses the ball. this is why his dispossession stats are higher than others. he dribbles & then loses the ball.


elampawa, include rooney in your prayers - pray he gets a permanent metatarsal injury that will send him into an early retirement. his time is over, he should let juan mata shine. rooney is just too poor to play in the hole. uncle mata is better.

coogar: which ojoro? which stats matter more than passing accuracy, key passes, chances created for a player in the hole?



assist is a shyte statistic - it depends on the recipient to score no matter how good the pass is. if the recipient doesn't score, no assist is recorded - this is why created chances is much more a truer individual stats than assists.

elampawa, learn & you shall be set free.

coogar: yes....



i made a mistake or you cannot read. did the image not show mata's name, picture and number of minutes that's different to what RVP's minutes. you should get into specsavers and fix your eyes.



RVP has already won the centre forward role according to van gaal which leaves only one option left for rooney - the hole!

however, i was still not satisfied with having rooney in that position so i compared him to RVP & rooney failed in the stats that mattered. furthermore, i brought mata into equation & rooney failed even more woefully.

my scientific experiment is to prove rooney is worthless which was the aim/objective of this debate from the get go. so my dear friend, professor coogar has been able to prove rooney should be permanently sectioned on the bench till any of RVP/mata/falcao gets injured or suspended.

elampiro: You are making the same mistake over and over again.

* Are these the only parameters? You put area dues and clearance but you ommitted:
goals
assist
tackles
interception
shot outside the erea
take ons
dispossed
touches
number of passes made, etc.






* I am yet to see RVP's stats comparision over the last three seasons.

coogar: because you are too poor at comprehending simple lines....


this was my sentence before the mata comparison.....



another vital information = something entirely different to the subject of discourse. elampawa, this na old age o. tell your madam to start adding yeast to your rice & make sure you take at least one pill of cod liver oil per week. it helps the memory.

coogar: go & rest.
when a grown man cannot even see that mata was the player being compared to rooney in the last image then it's time to call it a day.
pray very well o. if we lose tomorrow, i shall hold you personally responsible for the loss. you & your pastor would be promptly arrested.

coogar: goodnight, elampawa.
try fast & pray in sanctity. don't just avoid food & drink. avoid sex & pornögraphy as well so that victory can be guaranteed tomorrow 3pm.

sleep well, my dearest friend.

coogar: any player can score a goal on the pitch. there's no contradiction here.
RVP is a finisher, he waits for the service. it's not possible for him to touch the ball more than rooney who goes searching for the ball in low pressure zones where opponents are not interested in marking. RVP cannot dwell one second on the ball where he's stationed as he's in a high pressure zone. in spite of that, he still boasts a better passing accuracy than rooney who drops deep beyond the centre circle to start playing useless hollywood passes to the flanks like scholes.

so why is rooney in the team? number of touches mean squat when rooney plays majority of those passes backwards anyways. it's not about how many times the ball is touched, it's about what you do with the ball. even with the frequency of rooney's touches, he loses the ball more than the others. so what's the point? RVP is better than rooney if he's played in the hole and statistics have just revealed another vital information that i have been missing since june.


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walahi, rooney should commit suicide.

This is a wayo stat. Take on for instance should never be about percentage. It should be how many succesful take on done per minutes played.

Goals scored: How on earth did you arrive at that? Rooney has two goals in 450 minutes and RVP 1 goal in 347 minutes.

Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo



Rooney has 1 goal in every 225 minute.
RVP 1 goal in 347 minute.


Coogar, your stats are dubious. Now I won't ever, ever, ever again believe in this your stats. You are a manipulator. Or are my eyes deceiving me? Coogar you have been lying to us since Methusela.

* Again you ommitted assists and other dozens stats that favour Rooney.

coogar: stop shifting the goalpost....
you asked a question - "what's RVP good at?" i showed you the evidence why RVP is even better at what we have been told is rooney's role in the team. if RVP as a centre forward can pass more accurately than rooney, can create more chances than rooney, can make more key passes than rooney when why is rooney in the team?

van gaal already ruled rooney out as a striker & statistics have just showed us RVP even has a better stats than rooney in all the parameters required to play in the hole. so ask yourself, what is rooney good at? 60% backward passing? is that how we intend to get the best out of falcao? rooney can't beat RVP as a centre forward & he still cannot beat him from the hole.

can't you see rooney's career is over?

coogar: so why is he starting ahead of mata? have you not told us rooney is stronger defensively than mata & this is why he should play?



that's not the issue - RVP's passing accuracy beats anything rooney has produced since 2012/13 & RVP is finished?



he's a striker - he has less time to dwell on the ball than rooney who drifts all the way to the defence to be exchanging passes with blind, herrera and rojo. statistics already told us 60% of rooney's passes this season are backwards.



his job is to finish chances not run around like a headless chicken

coogar: so why is he starting ahead of mata? have you not told us rooney is stronger defensively than mata & this is why he should play?



that's not the issue - RVP's passing accuracy beats anything rooney has produced since 2012/13 & RVP is finished?



he's a striker - he has less time to dwell on the ball than rooney who drifts all the way to the defence to be exchanging passes with blind, herrera and rojo. statistics already told us 60% of rooney's passes this season are backwards.



his job is to finish chances not run around like a headless chicken




RVP's numbers don't lie.

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RVP destroyed rooney in all the relevant attacking stats yet again this season. your whoscored stats isn't accurate enough - they calculate per game - the true statistics should calculate per minute

coogar: so rooney is now a defensive midfielder & this is why interception is important? rooney is getting dispossessed close to twice as much as in 2012/13 and that's an improvement to you?

rooney's pass accuracy this season is worse than 12/13 and that's an improvement to you? elampiro, give up - rooney is finished. van persie's successful passing is 84.8% this season - more than anything rooney has managed in the last 3 seasons.

biko, we should sell rooney to ASEC mimosa.