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coogar: nah, the argument is who has deteriorated amongst the 2 players.



so you agree rooney is finished? before we proceed to RVP, do you agree rooney is uber-worthless to man utd and he deserves to be sold to 3SC??

coogar: see your rooney....

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rooney was more useful when his weekly wage was £250k/week. he's been declining every season since 12/13. look at the stats for feck sake.....

coogar: you & the person that wrote that blog are both soccer illiterates. is that how to plot statistics? using absolute values instead of the 90 metrics? can you not see the number of minutes is different for all the 3 seasons?

elampawa, give up!!!

coogar: mata doesn't earn £300k/week. mata hasn't been overhyped. he's actually underrated. 8 league goals in his last 11 games is the sort of record rooney should have but for where?



if my great grandmother with one eye is put in rooney's position @ man utd for 11 seasons, she would have scored more goals against top teams.

rooney has played 3,000 more minutes than van persie. that's about 33 full matches & he has just 4 UCL goals to show for that huge difference.

rooney is a failure!

coogar: so rooney has the same score with chelsea's goalie? time to put elampawa on a suicide watch then.

it seems LVG isn't paying attention. the so-called commercial factor of rooney is gone. RVP has outsold rooney in shirts since he arrived in 2012. i heard falcao beasted this season so far......so why is rooney still at OT?



he does have epilepsy but it's the type that has won golden boots in consecutive seasons. healthy rooney has nothing to show for goalscoring in 11 seasons at OT.



i only go there to fück edo bïtches....



berbatov didn't start in many of those games. he didn't start against bayern, chelsea & milan. rooney was the lone striker.



how many minutes do they have? forget years - talk minutes. van persie has 25 UCL goals in 3,634 mins....rooney has 29 UCL goals in 6600 mins. you sef, see how grim rooney's stats look. he has scored only 4 goals more than RVP and there's 3,000 mins between them.

rooney is a disgrace!





what's the meaning of this?
the only difference is rooney has played in more knock out games than the rest and logic follows he would score more goals. look at the stats.....6,600(rooney) to 3,600(rvp) it's a disgrace rooney doesn't have more goals in europe.

ChristineC: I read somewhere that Smalling is injured after playing only last Sunday.
Please he should be sold to the highest bidder, I don't know if these British defenders are even conspiring to ruin the season for Manchester United.
Sell all these female players please

coogar: and rooney with the first touch of a räpist nko? if rooney touches the ball in sapele, the ball would land in PH.



where?
so rooney vacating his position to play keep uppy with evans & jones in the defence is doing the right thing? it's not about the number of times the ball is touched, it's about what you do with the ball. the stats just revealed close to 60% of rooney's passes this season have been backwards.

rooney is a fool!



everyone knew then that arsenal's problems were defensive, not offensive. they played the best football in the land then attacking-wise. now that rooney is playing number-10, what position are we? he played in the hole for most of last season, where did we finish?



hyena that created more chances per minute than rooney - the best number 10 in the world in 2012/13 season?



what stüpid scoring record? it seems you have a problem with numbers. rooney has spent 11 seasons at man utd. in that time, this is the only season we aren't playing in europe. how many other strikers in the EPL have such numbers in europe? so why is it unusual for rooney to have the best scoring record given the number of times he's played in europe?

rooney has played 6,600 champions league minutes for united. i dare you to find any other premier league striker with such a high number in europe. if you cannot, please stop hyping wayne rooney. he's had the longest time as a united player during united's most successful era to beat any record he so wishes.

SailorXY: no talk that thing for public oo

coogar: RVP is a better number-10 than rooney. he has a better ball control & he was in that hole when they used to have adebayor & eduardo. it seems you only started watching football when newcastle hired alan pardew.

rooney is shït in any position he finds himself. SAF knows more than you do and he preferred danny welbeck in the hole in the biggest game of 2012/13 season. he had tested rooney several times in that hole & rooney capitulated like a bïtch!

rooney lost us the wembley final, he lost england the game against italy in euro 2012. rooney doesn't have a position he has mastered throughout his career. he's a street footballer, he had no proper football education before he shot into the limelight & this is why he's a problem.



and since mata left chelsea, how many titles have they won? how come rooney's defensive stat hasn't won anything for england too - since according to your logic, defensive stats in the hole guarantee trophies.

coogar: from that same midfield - toure & ramsey scored around 20 league goals. does the position a player plays stop him from scoring goals? will rooney's starting position stop his set play goals he scores?

that excuse is lame!



nonsense stats - it's only when a player is useless that his defensive stats get brought up. who cares about that? i look at classic number 10s over the years, zidane, sneijder, hagi, baggio, rummennige, voeller, gullit, etc.

when did you ever see them sprinting 80 yards back to recover the possession? one idïotic journalist was highlighting rooney's run when vardy scored the 4th goal as a sign of his dedication. my question is - how come rooney doesn't run similarly when he's in possession of the ball when we are attacking?

rooney's lack of talent attacking wise is the reason his defensive stats get brought up. he should convert himself to a defender & leave the creativity to the masters like juan mata. rooney has no first touch.....his passing is horrible for a number-10 & he lacks the intelligence to be patient & spot an opening.

coogar: van persie won the golden boot that season & single-handedly won games for us. what did rooney win that season?



22 goal contributions was poor from the hole considering the number of minutes rooney got that season.

rooney played 2,014 league minutes altogether in 12/13 & made 22 goal contributions. that's about 1 goal contribution every 91.5 minutes.....

RVP played 3122 league minutes & made 35 goal contributions. that's about 1 goal contribution in 89 minutes. there's a reason fergie booted rooney to the bench that season - RVP is more likely to contribute a goal than rooney.

coogar: what's the meaning of 22 starts? please talk in minutes. stop playing wayo with vocabulary. how many minutes did rooney get to play on the pitch? he made only 10 assists & 48 key-passes in the hole. van persie got 9 assists & 71 key passes as a striker.

surely, rooney is useless if van persie is making more key pass/min than rooney from a centre forward position.



rooney is poor - i don't deal with terminologies like starts. i work with minutes. chris smalling didn't start last sunday against leicester and he played for 60 mins. johnny evans started & played for 30 mins.

so what's the meaning of starts in modern statistics?

PietroRico: lol. U neither answered yes nor no.
All u did was give excuses(which wasn't what was asked of u)

Lol.
Those questions were simple and straightforward enough IMO.

coogar: which stüpid hole? RVP that wasn't in the hole had 9 league assists and scored 26 league goals. so what stüpid role was rooney doing in the hole if the centre forward assisted almost the same number as rooney?

i am glad british journos that used to keep mute before concerning rooney are now opening their mouths & trumpeting what we have been saying here. r

•rooney is poor with short passing
•rooney has no vision
•rooney has the first touch of a räpist
•mata is better than rooney in the hole
•rooney is wasteful in possession

BinghiNya: Wazza is the bomb, he won't be benched. RVP will sit on the Bench as he offers little, his goal scoring hides nothing.

coogar: finally, the writer was talking about the season rooney operated behind hernandez - mostly in europe when we got to champions league final & when we destroyed chelsea in the title race.

that was the last time rooney had any decent performance in the hole.

coogar: over 3 years ago would be between january 2011 & the night of the champions league final - when SAF preferred rooney/hernandez combo to berbatov/hernandez.

in 11/12, it was mostly rooney & welbeck in attack. hernandez was injured & berbatov had limited starts. stop posting if you don't understand simple english.

capricornian: Elampiro, can I ask you some questions my bro?

1- Do you think Rooney's performances compared to when he was younger are improving, stagnant or on the down hill?

2- If you were to buy 'a Rooney' which would you prefer.... A Rooney of some 6years back or the Rooney of now?

3- What are those attributes or qualities that can make Rooney a better player?

Thank you

SailorXY: what do you think is the way forward for this team as it stands now