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In fact it looks like Gaal has shattered one of our finest records. As far back as I know, United has never lost an EPL match we went two goals up. Once we are two up, we are done.

A new coach in a new terrain emphasizing too much on attacking play.

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All these are what the new players have to learn. Even Gaal. There are more physical teams in the EPL than soft sides like QPR. This was why I rang the alarm bell after the QPR victory. If we had played Leicester before QPR, we would have taken 6 points. Once we went 2 goals up, our boys felt it was going to be another massacre for us, and Rojo allowed an easy pass to an opponents. He should had fouled him.



* Man United has never before lost an EPL match we went two nil up. Our old guys wouldn't have allowed this, but it's a learning curve for the new boys.

Bimfo: Pls return our thing, we no dey do again..

ah ah, Na Chelsea best player for 2 seasons you dey insult like this Guy, Guy, Guy...

Chelsea's reject. Mourinho's maga on Man United.




If you value him so much. Make a Fabregas swap + £15m on top of Mata. Gaal will be glad.

coogar: how come fatso isn't scoring against lower teams? fatso is a waste of time. he cannot pass, he cannot even make clearances. he doesn't create enough chances and to be honest, rooney is just shyte!!!

Your 'Chelsea Reject' is a calamity. He can never match Rooney's goals record.

Rooney was outstanding from the hole yesterday. He was absolutely magnificent with nice touches,n drives and touches. He provided playing options to all our attacking moves. It is a sacrilege to mention Mata after Rooney's performance yesterday. You may mention Mata some other day, but with Rooney's form now, that day mightt never come.

Rooney performed ten times than Mata who was very fresh and Rooney had been on for 75mins. Mata is Mourinho's biggest maga on us.

Odunharry: Next 10 games
Manutd vs westham
Manutd vs Everton
Westbrom vs Manutd
Manutd vs Chelsea
Mancity vs Manutd
Manutd vs Crystal palace
Arsenal vs Manutd
Manutd vs Hull
Manutd vs stoke
southampton vs Manutd
Manutd vs liverpool


the major threat there is going to Etihad...
I knw we cant loose at Emirate

i see no reason why we shouldnot be top 4 by december

The ten points we lost to the weakest teams will come back to haunt us. The fixtures ahead are more difficult.

We need a stable back four.

coogar: mata has scored 2 goals, if he had started today, he would have added to his tally or provided countless key passes to his forward. until today, he had scored 8 goals in his last 10 games.

fat rooney is there - doing nothing. in more than 60 mins, rooney provided only 2 key passes to world class forwards like falcao, di maria & RVP. that's piss-poor - it's an effing disgrace.

Mata has scored goals against rubbished low teams and still lost most of the games. He is always neglecting his number 10 duty and occupying strikers position. He left us worse than he met us last season. I see no value for his addition both last term and now.

He is a waste of space. He should be playing for Sundowns or Chiefs of South Africa.

chrisley024: These two teams are similar to Leicester. Very physical.

You guys can remember I sounded this Leicester warning.

coogar: mata, RVP, falcao have all been better than rooney. rooney is a scam.

Mata is the principal scam. Mourinho caught us mugu with Mata. I wonder how he will fair against Stoke and Palace. Let's see how he survives West Ham first.

RVP is on his retirement now. He is just enjoying his pension. I can still pardon him over Mata. Mata should go to Ajax to play soft football. Or South African league sef.

SailorXY: i still dey observe Falcao. with quality service, that guy no go smile @ all in front of goal

Falcao and Di Maria will be great. Falcao has a good movement around the final 3rd. However we still need one of the two forwards to drop deeper.

coogar: i thought you were going to bed. you are not even accurate with your own schedule. there's nothing to write home about - rooney's only meaningful pass to di maria was the assist he provided. after that, rooney's brain got shut down like a faulty laptop.

Among our forwards, only Di Maria has been better than Rooney in the last two matches.

chrisley024: Another thing I saw from today's game is that our fullbacks lack support and protection which is not the epl way.

I think Herrera, Di Maria, Rojo and Blind have got lessons to learn here. In EPL you don't relax on a two goal lead. You have to protect it. Gaal has to learn too.

Odunharry: Nxt match Westham then Everton

Everton is a sinking ship ATM.

This Coogar na wayo Tortoise,

Where is Rooney's passes to Di Maria?


* It will be interesting to see RVP's chart.

Mtseww,

Most Mata passes go to back and sides. Even against soft playing teams.

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* We lost 'cos RVP missed three clear chances a granny would score with eyes closed.

They said his first touch was bad. All his touches were right. They said he doesn't play through the middle, yet he drove through there with ease and has assists via the middle.

Rooney ride on. Let haters 'go and die'


I am logging night jor.

MrTA: So in a match where we scored 3 goals away from home and we lost due to lack of steel in midfield and defence its the attack and the strikers we're discussing?

Thank you. If you went back to the source of this, you would see Coogar started it. His hatred for Rooney is evil, yet he over protects RVP and Mata.

coogar: mata didn't have the luxury of starting a game behind 2 world class strikers in RVP & falcao. rooney was given the best poachers in the world & he failed to make use of them like he should.



RVP made 2 key passes to di maria at the edge of the box.....RVP creates as many as he scores. rooney is the black sheep in the squad.

* Give us Mata's pass chart in previous games let's see if they are not ten times worse than Rooney's today.

* Rooney through play today and drivings through the middle were commendable. Stat won't give you that. Mata has never played like that before. Moreover, Mata wouldn't have done well against Leicester. He would have been swallowed.


* A pregnant 70 years old woman would have done better than RVP today. Passing back to centre circle.

Coogar, I am still waiting. Mata's pass chart in four previous matches.

coogar: shut up your mouth.....
i wasn't having any conversation with you when you quoted me. i have warned you several times, stop quoting me if you know you cannot rest at ease once your demigod is getting battered.

and your pitiful excuse that rooney doesn't have to pass to falcao. what a horrible excuse. cesc is out there making 4 key passes per game & claiming 50% of chelsea assists.....is it too much for rooney to be asked to provide the same?

£300k per week & sideways/backward passing is what we are getting from the doofus. rooney is a lunatic - if he cannot be doing the "di maria assist" 3-4 times in a game then he's useless to what we need.

Shut up you mouth Tortoise.

* Rooney was superb in the hole today. Your stats are useless.

* Rooney assisted through the middle and even your chat showed he gave Falcao a key pass via the middle.

coogar: i have no allegiance with any player. if anyone plays well, they get praised maybe sometimes excessively. if another player does rubbish, he gets pilloried, maybe sometimes excessively especially when so much is expected from such players.....

this is rooney's pass combo today....as you can see, majority of his passes went sideways & backwards.

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this is the breakdown....

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if the bulk of the passes of the so called player in the hole is towards the players behind him, how are we ever going to get the best out of falcao & RVP?

this was all his passes to falcao.....he made no single pass to RVP and they spent 90 mins on the pitch together.

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You don't know football.

* Can we have similar stat for Mata's four matches in the hole?

* Falcao gave to RVP to score. Who did RVP give to? I guess DDG.

coogar: i must have seen a different match....

rooney was in the hole for 90 mins.....he made 2 passes to falcao & none(zero) to RVP in 90 mins. biko, what's rooney's job. let me dig the stats out & see for yourself why our player in the hole should be making most passes to the defenders.....

If you like go and dig all the stats. Rooney was magnificent today in the hole. ... You want to tell me Mata has not been passing to defenders even against soft playing sides?

Do you want some part of £300k?


* If you refused to see RVP did not play well today, good for you. After the match I went to a football field, everyone said RVP was minus one.

coogar: i must have seen a different match....

rooney was in the hole for 90 mins.....he made 2 passes to falcao & none(zero) to RVP in 90 mins. biko, what's rooney's job. let me dig the stats out & see for yourself why our player in the hole should be making most passes to the defenders.....

If you like go and dig all the stats. Rooney was magnificent today in the hole. ... You want to tell me Mata has not been passing to defenders even against soft playing sides?

Do you want some part of £300k?

coogar: the captainship is causing all sane man utd fans nightmares. rooney is an idïot, a buffoon, a brainless gorilla. he made life easy for falcao? rooney passed to falcao twice in the entire game. you must have been drunk when watching the game.

a bloody good striker like falcao & rooney only passed to him twice - rooney is a waste of time in that hole. he's not good anywhere. all his set-plays were rubbish. the only good thing he did today was the pass for di maria's goal. after that point, he just lost the initiative.



5-1 up?
from whose passes? how many chances did rooney create in 90 minutes? fabregas is providing 4 key passes per game - rooney created only 2 chances in 90 minutes.



lies - RVP isn't as daft as that.
if the pass is there, RVP would find it. if the pass is too risky, RVP would do all what's necessary to retain possession even if it means passing it back to rebuild another attack.

roooney on the other hand was doing meaningless cross-field balls. none of rooney's crosses found a united player. i dunno why he's even in the team. mata is smarter with the ball at his feet. rooney is just a pleb dragging this team back with moronic decision making.



short one RVP scored.....what did rooney achieve in the game apart from his fluked assist?

I have told you countless times that you don't know ball. Rooney doesn't need to pass to Falcao to help him. He only needs to give him a passing option to help Falcao's movement.

If you like write from now till tomorrow. Everyone saw the game including Gaal. Rooney was superb in the hole.

I am not going to go pages with you. You have been looking for an excuse to start blaming Rooney. Your excuse today no hold water.

RVP could have scored 2 or 3 goals today. He hit the keeper instead of chipping. He couldn't control Di Maria's pass. If na Rooney.....

Anyone who thinks Rooney is not a number 10 after his outstanding performance against a very physical Leicester side today, must be either a joke or a witch hunter. Rooney provided great creativity and passing options to the whole team. He did everything via the middle in a very physical match.

And to think someone is defending Mata awful play. Someone sent in to help find and equalizer ended the match for us by 'assisting' a Leicester goal. If it were SAF, Mata won't play till next year.

coogar: overall, rooney was shyte!
his clearance caused the equaliser. that moment of the game, we needed calm heads. what's so difficult in rooney putting the ball out of touch so his defenders can take a breather?

the clearance couldn't have happened to anyone. all the other goals were excusable - rooney's clearance is so poor - OPTA described it as an error leading to a goal. only rooney got that mark out of 14 players that played for us today. he's a useless captain.

after making the error, he still had the gumption to scream at de gea & blackett for his own stupïdity. instead of rallying round to get the morale of the team up, he was busy chatting shyte to clatterburg. he should borrow a leaf from kompany & terry. rooney's idiòtic rants to the referee could even be the reason referees are shafting us....

Tell me the captainship is causing you sleepless nights. Rooney gave an oustanding performance from the number 10 against a power playing team. He made life easy for Falcao with his attacking thru the middle and creativity.

Hope you are aware RVP ought to have sent us 5-1 or 6-1 up. If it were Rooney that have missing good chances as RVP did in recent matches you would have crashed nairaland server with posts. If RVP had converted those chances, we could just have been passing the ball around.

Apart from the missed chances, RVP was sending passes from final third back to centre circle area, even though Falcao, Di Maria and Rooney were well positioned for an attack in the box. And he was very sluggish.

In that match, everyone knew RVP was a short one, yet he played 90 mins,



I am not surprised sha. Keep typing......

chrisley024: Removing Di maria was beyond me when we've RVP that was dulling our game and offering nothing.

Don't see any wrong Janizaj did today o. He was still better than Mata that gifted them the 3 point by that 4th goal

It looks like Di Maria can't play 90 mins in the EPL for now. He gets exhausted after 65 mins.

I support Falcao should have been left on the pitch.

coogar: clatterbütt ruined the game & handed the game to leicester free of charge. we needed to be calm at that point & stop feeling sorry for ourselves then rooney made a horrible clearance to give leicester the equaliser.

i was satisfied with the football we played until the first leicester penalty. we didn't lose to bad football today, we lost because clatterburg wanted a physical game & refused to penalise leicester for their thuggish football"

it's a learning curve - shout out to rafael, blackett, blind, herrera, falcao & di maria. they were good value for money - rooney's captainship should be taken away from him. he's not a leader......at the time the younger players needed guidance today, rooney failed to provide one.

we go again next week.....

the future is bright!

When will you retire from unnecessary Rooney bashing? Rooney played a very good game today. That clearance could have happened to anyone based on the spinning of the ball. We saw more horrible clearance from many of our players recently. All that needed to be done was defend well, after all we still got a lot of players behind the ball.

Overall Rooney's play today and awareness was commendable.

chrisley024: I pray for our team. My only consolation is that other top teams are dropping points.

That which is your consolation is my annoyance. We are supposed to quickly move ahead of our rivals. We haven't played any big team sef.

Let's hope they sought this things out quickly.

The worst was that our defenders were also going forward to join our forwards.... Leaving about four Leicester players some opportunity to break.

chrisley024: Another problem we've is trying to start two CFs with our poor defence. We should pack our midfield knowing the state of our defence.

We've two CFs that do not track back instead they remain at the front waiting for the ball while we're overrun in the midfield thereby exposing our defence.

We need one of the two men upfront to be tracking back and defending in the mid

This is so true. I also have observed that we are like a man less. May be we should go to 4-3-3 flat or 4-2-3-1. But it means two big players will be on the bench. One solution could be that the two front men or at least of them drops deep.

chrisley024: Abeg, no dey mention Moyes here

E don reach to mention Moyes na. Do you realized we have thrown away 10 points in only 5 matches? Wit all the Di Maria, Falcao, Herrera, Rojo....

I know Gaal is a world class coach, but this is unacceptable.

* At the end our inexperience defence cost us. The first two goals were avoidable even though they were referee goals. The moment I saw Rafael got up in anger to chase after that ball, I knew he would go with force, instead of shielding the guy he made a hand touch. And the wonderful ref...

* There was some space for Leicester to play in our own 3rd. We didn't do well covering our defence so well. I think we may have to settle for Phil Jones and Smalling partnership. They should be thought to stay fit. We need to try Shaw. We need guys who can keep their feet firm on the ground.

* The substitutions didn't help us. I think Van Persie, instead of Falcao, who should have been substituted. Van Persie overall movement was too static to have been left on the field for 90 minutes.

* It is always a bad thing to keep changing coaches. Moyes should have by now steadied the ship. I think at this time last season, we had played Chelsea and Liverpool, yet we were not as bad on the table. Gaal's newness to EPL is really a problem. I always see about four opponents lurking around our lean looking defence hoping to capitalize on mistakes.

* The other day, Valencia was the last man in defence and opponents were waiting to swoop on him, the worst was that there was no one opened to receive the pass, then Val took the safe option. People thought he was a goat, but now we know better.

* Our confidence is somewhat shattered again.