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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:30pm On Jan 10, 2014
Wayne Rooney
Agreed with the manager and the medical team that some warm weather training and recuperation would help this niggling injury I have been trying to play through. Gutted I am not available for selection tomorrow, but sure the lads will give everything to get the right result. As I said earlier today the crowd can help the team's confidence massively so hopefully everyone will get behind the lads and stay with them and the manager throughout the game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:24pm On Jan 10, 2014
Manchester United forward Wayne Rooney has been sent for warm weather (Egypt) training to help quicken his recovery from a groin injury.

Robin van Persie is close to overcoming a thigh complaint, but Saturday may come too soon for him, while defenders Phil Jones, Rio Ferdinand (both knee) and Jonny Evans (back) remain on the treatment table.

Marouane Fellaini (wrist) and Ashley Young (shoulder) are also among the walking wounded, and Fabio is serving a suspension for the red card he picked up against Swansea in cup competition. [Source: Skysports, BBCSport]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16pm On Jan 10, 2014
Rooney and Robin still out

David Moyes has confirmed he has sent Wayne Rooney on a hot-weather break to accelerate his recovery from a groin problem, while Robin van Persie is still unavailable for action due to a thigh problem.

As a result, both strikers will miss Saturday's Barclays Premier League encounter with Swansea City at Old Trafford, although the boss is optimistic that Rooney will return from overseas to face old foes Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Sunday 19 January.

“Well, with Wayne we've sent him away on a hot-weather break," Moyes told reporters during his pre-match press conference at the Aon Training Complex. "His groin isn't quite recovered yet so we've sent the fitness coach with him and he's away with his family. It will give Wayne a bit of break.

“We always hoped to be able to do it at some time in the season and the groin is not as good as we'd hoped. Hopefully we can get him fit for [the] Chelsea [match] but we'll see how he is. He's away and will do some work with the fitness coach.

"Robin is going to be a little while. We'll do everything we can to get him back quickly. Wayne has got an injury and we have to hope for that, but we'll see how it goes. It's probably the right time to give it a chance to heal. We thought the best thing was to get him to the warmer weather with one of the coaches and spend time with the family as well. Hopefully it will make him better."

Man United official website.
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Still a long way to go, and UK weather not helping matters.

RVP is back to Carrington though.
Politics › Re: Ibori, Others To Complete Jail Terms In Nigeria by elampiro(m): 3:25pm On Jan 10, 2014
This is it:


Pastor TB Joshua Revealed As Man Behind Al-Mustapha's Release, Massaging President Jonathan’s 2015 Hopes

Posted: Jul, 21 2013, 11:07PM



Pastor TB Joshua and Hamza Al-Mustapha

By SaharaReporters, New York

Sources have told SaharaReporters that last week’s “judicial decision” which set free of murder charges Hamza Al-Mustapha, the former Chief Security Officer to late Nigerian dictator, Sanni Abacha, is owed to President Goodluck Jonathan, who was following a “spiritual” fortune-telling that would enable him to win the 2015 election.

Controversial Lagos sect leader, Pastor TB Joshua, who has Mr. Jonathan eating out of his hands, has been identified as the person who told the Nigeria leader that his political fortune rests with setting Al Mustapha free.  

In addition, Mr. Joshua has also told Mr. Jonathan if he is to win in 2015, he needs to bring back to Nigeria James Ibori, the former Delta State governor who is currently serving a 13-year jail term in the United Kingdom.

After Mr. Joshua's spiritual “forecast” was told to Mr. Jonathan, SaharaReporters sources say he instructed the Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Mohammed Bello Adoke to take care of the judges involved in the case, giving him a war chest of $2 million.  

But a judge, Justice Ibrahim Saulawa, a Northern Muslim, who was earlier contacted to do the dirty job, refused to accept the bribe and removed himself from consideration of the plan.

Another judge, Amina Augie, was then drafted to handle the Al-Mustapha’s acquittal.  Ms. Augie, formerly known as Anna Graham, who is originally from Anambra State and fourth wife of late Senator Adamu Augie of Kebbi State, took the case and assembled some lawyers to help with drafting the judgement.

It is also alleged that she got help from some members of the Nigerian human rights community in drafting the judgement, which blamed the prosecutors in Mr. Mustapha's case for doing a “shoddy” job.  Among other ridiculous arguments, Ms. Augie’s claimed in the judgement that the prosecution couldn't provide the bullet that killed Mrs. Kudirat Abiola in 1996.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/pastor-tb-joshua-revealed-man-behind-al-mustaphas-release-massaging-president-jonathan’s-2
Politics › Re: Ibori, Others To Complete Jail Terms In Nigeria by elampiro(m): 2:28pm On Jan 10, 2014
Sahara reporters got this one spot on.
Politics › Re: Ibori, Others To Complete Jail Terms In Nigeria by elampiro(m):
Sahara reporters got this spot on.

Who remembers that report where this was mentioned?

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Pastor TB Joshua Revealed As Man Behind Al-Mustapha's Release, Massaging President Jonathan’s 2015 Hopes

Posted: Jul, 21 2013, 11:07PM



Pastor TB Joshua and Hamza Al-Mustapha

By SaharaReporters, New York

Sources have told SaharaReporters that last week’s “judicial decision” which set free of murder charges Hamza Al-Mustapha, the former Chief Security Officer to late Nigerian dictator, Sanni Abacha, is owed to President Goodluck Jonathan, who was following a “spiritual” fortune-telling that would enable him to win the 2015 election.

Controversial Lagos sect leader, Pastor TB Joshua, who has Mr. Jonathan eating out of his hands, has been identified as the person who told the Nigeria leader that his political fortune rests with setting Al Mustapha free.  

In addition, Mr. Joshua has also told Mr. Jonathan if he is to win in 2015, he needs to bring back to Nigeria James Ibori, the former Delta State governor who is currently serving a 13-year jail term in the United Kingdom.

After Mr. Joshua's spiritual “forecast” was told to Mr. Jonathan, SaharaReporters sources say he instructed the Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Mohammed Bello Adoke to take care of the judges involved in the case, giving him a war chest of $2 million.  

But a judge, Justice Ibrahim Saulawa, a Northern Muslim, who was earlier contacted to do the dirty job, refused to accept the bribe and removed himself from consideration of the plan.

Another judge, Amina Augie, was then drafted to handle the Al-Mustapha’s acquittal.  Ms. Augie, formerly known as Anna Graham, who is originally from Anambra State and fourth wife of late Senator Adamu Augie of Kebbi State, took the case and assembled some lawyers to help with drafting the judgement.

It is also alleged that she got help from some members of the Nigerian human rights community in drafting the judgement, which blamed the prosecutors in Mr. Mustapha's case for doing a “shoddy” job.  Among other ridiculous arguments, Ms. Augie’s claimed in the judgement that the prosecution couldn't provide the bullet that killed Mrs. Kudirat Abiola in 1996.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/pastor-tb-joshua-revealed-man-behind-al-mustaphas-release-massaging-president-jonathan’s-2
Politics › Re: Nigeria/uk Sign Prisoner Transfer Agreement by elampiro(m): 9:02am On Jan 10, 2014
Now Sahara reporters got is spot on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:00am On Jan 10, 2014
@Coogar, why did you copy what I was typing?Are you a magician?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:57pm On Jan 09, 2014
dademola: did messi deserve the award in 2010?
I can't remember what happened in 2010. But I knew Ronaldo has been badly treated with these awards. He should have had at least one recently.

I won't be surprised again to see Blatter and association of voters favour Messi again. They feel Ronaldo is too arrogant.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:46pm On Jan 09, 2014
Considering the way today's award went, CRZ should be world best. These are individual awards based on individual performances under a given period.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:55pm On Jan 09, 2014
Yaya Toure again.

Well. Deserved sha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:45pm On Jan 09, 2014
StarBoard: Putting Pep Guardiola and Phil Neville in the same sentence when talking about coaching is irresponsible punditry.
Always read before you respond. They have same record prior to being coach. No one was talking about achievements. Neville is an an assistant coach after winning UCL and many EPL for same club some years before. That was same thing Guardiola did, perhaps he was even less successful as a player (I didn't check though)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:32pm On Jan 09, 2014
Kudos. 3 out of 5 this season.

Welbeck and Smalling came second & 3rd respectively.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:29pm On Jan 09, 2014
Deiok: Van persie to return in time for the chelsea game
==> http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2014/01/09/4532004/van-persie-returns-to-manchester-united-targets-comeback-at?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter
^^Good news.

Macheida and Lingaard not going on loan anymore.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:27pm On Jan 09, 2014
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:37pm On Jan 09, 2014
David Moyes is amongst the nominees for Barclays Premier League manager of the month for December.

Moyes, who side have endured a poor start to 2014, but his side managed four wins and a draw in December which has seen him shortlisted.

Jose Mourinho, Manuel Pelligrini and Roberto Martinez are the other nominees. [Source: Skysports]

megedefegede
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:31pm On Jan 09, 2014
[quote author=A-40]Knockout![/quote]You no go allow sleeping dogs? When he vex come out now, argument go prolong.

I think he is busy or tired.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:27pm On Jan 09, 2014
* 1025 and Howard Webb. Na wa.


* I saw something on this page: megedefegede
A-40 what is that?

Anyway, Ukwu!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:28am On Jan 09, 2014
We know City has a strong squad, we should also not be intimidated by their result last night.

Sunderland has beaten Man City (1-0), they have beaten Chelsea 2-1. May be they are underrated because of their standing on the table. Chelsea didn't show any sign of life when they lost to Sunderland, but we were lively.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:01am On Jan 09, 2014
StarBoard: I fear for the economy if this fellow truly works for a bank.
What do you mean?

I only implied they have the same background. I didn't mean same coaching success. Did u read through the trail of argument?

In the aspect of work, that is personal. I could have as well said 'see serious government work' and still mean the same thing- serious argument on the thread.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:12am On Jan 09, 2014
Till now we don't know when RVP is coming back.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:10am On Jan 09, 2014
If there is anything I respect Moyes for, he doesn't panic.

If there is anything I dislike him for at the moment, he doesn't want to buy players. We have no bench.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:52pm On Jan 08, 2014
This written by a Man City fan on David Moyes. Some of the things we have discussed. ..... Sorry for the space.



This is one of those times where the modern media really fails us as football fans in explaining exactly what has happened at Manchester United.

I often complain that they focus too much on irrelevance and not enough on the actual business of football behind the scenes and this is an example of where it could have helped. I'm not sure what anybody else was expecting here but Man United are right about where I thought they would be. I think they'll finish higher than this but their form is somewhat predictable.

United as a Club has completely fell apart and it is the job of David Moyes to rebuild it. It has fell apart because the Club in the modern era was built entirely to Ferguson's exacting standards and methods. Every single person in every department of the Club knew what they were doing every day and what the ultimate point was.

Clubs falling apart after the movement of a Czar isn't new. United fell apart after Busby left, Liverpool got worse the more contrived the boot room system became. It's natural.

I think United fans should remember the words of Ferguson before he left. He's a proper football man, as is David Moyes, and they both know the scale of the task Moyes has undertaken and the time it will take to bear fruit.

United can either studiously water their crops over time to create a vast sustainable empire once again that will provide riches for generations or they can dump nuclear waste on their land and grow tomacco.

For me, the real test of the Glazers as owners starts today. You can talk about money and whatever but to most people it's an irrelevance, United have been ultra successful and the manager has been given what he wanted. So far so good for the Glazers. The test starts right now because we discover whether they are the seasoned and patient businessmen that the Edwards family were or just another kneejerk bunch of twats who are sacking managers on ridiculous timescales.

I think Moyes has certainly made mistakes, or rather a single mistake. I think he tried to transition too quickly from Ferguson's staff to his own staff in the first team which created unneccesary pressure on himself.

This can be forgiven however as I see what he was trying to accomplish. He knew that this would be a difficult period of transition and he wants to snap it as quickly as possible rather than do it piece by piece.

Managers often do lack patience in transition, AVB had the same problem at Chelsea. Funnily, Ferguson did the same mistake when he first joined too.

I see people who have called Moyes unambitious because he has said that United played well when they didn't. This is a man who had a job for life in a stable Premier League team where he was beloved and he decided to pack that in and move to the most famous Club in the world and succeed the best ever manager in the game, to take on a rebuilding job the like of which has never been done in the modern era of football. Unambitious? Do me a favour.

You see, Manchester United was a club built in Ferguson's own image and everybody took their lead from him. He was an imposing figure yet if you meet him he had this working class charm that made you want to fight for him.

David Moyes is a similar figure but doesn't yet covet the same respect and loyalty from everybody at Manchester United. There's no possible way that he could, that anybody could, most of the people at United were directly employed by Ferguson or employed whilst he was the manager.

In time, Moyes will have the same respect bestowed on him, that's all that it needs at the minute, just some time for him to get his feet under the table. Some fans believe that David Moyes isn't the man for United. I challenge the idea that they even understand what United is as a Club.

David Moyes is pretty much the prototypical Manchester United manager, if you had to walk away and design a man who would manage them, it is him. He's fierce, he's tactically well versed, he has a superhuman work ethic, he believes in youth promotion, he plays with wingers, he inspires loyalty and fight from everybody around him. Those who don't see this have never been to Everton away under his tenure there.

Moyes managed to turn that place into a lion's den in how ferocious the atmosphere was and how the team played, and make no mistake this developed under him and will wane without him, managers have a major effect on atmospheres as any United fan will tell you (or City fan for that matter), he will do the same to Old Trafford given time.

So I suppose the problem here is that fans have underestimated the mammoth of a task that Moyes has to accomplish and pundits have over-simplified it. It will take Moyes several years to get United built in his own image and it will be better off for it rather than start some roundabout of managerial changes. And I warn United fans, I'm a fan of a Club that has had probably 30 managers in the past 30 years. Once you start down this path of swapping in and out managers, you can never come back from it.

One last thing to note. I find it interesting how many people when this was announced said things like "Moyes will need a transition time" but have now decided that he should be gone in January.

Transition time is a term used to denote the time it takes to sweep away the mentality of the old regime and bring in your own mentality. Essentially, how long it takes to forget the old manager and buy into the thoughts of the new even if it conflicts with what the old manager would say.

For a manager who casts the shadow of Ferguson, this will take 3 or 4 years, not 3 or 4 months. Bobby Charlton, Alex Ferguson and others at United understand this so appointed a manager who can rebuild United and have the wide shoulders it requires to bear the load of expectation from the fans and media.

They think they found their right man in David Moyes and all piss taking aside, so do I. I hope that they both fight his corner in the boardroom and I'm sure they will.

These people understand United as a Club, understand what makes it successful and understand what makes it special. Moyes will be fine if the fans just shut up and let him do his job. ¤SS¤

‪#‎mufc‬ ‪#‎davidmoyes‬ ‪#‎ggmu‬
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50pm On Jan 08, 2014
Mehn, see serious bank work...... I no fit even respond sef.

@Dantedasz, always come once in a while to discuss Man United, not only when things are bad.
To your question, we can beat Sunderland 4-0 if we get an early goal and with our major players around to compound their woes. Young defence four. Jones in the midfield, then Rooney, RVP fit. We will hold them to their own 3rd for most of the match with some quality in the final 3rd.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:32pm On Jan 08, 2014
Dantedasz: As a United fan, do you believe that under David Moyes leadership, Manchester United can/will knock Sunderland out of the league cup at Old Trafford?
From what I saw yesterday, it was quite obvious that Gus Poyet has got his number.
At the end of it all, Moyes had that "rabbit in the headlights"

look on his face again that indicates his confussion with the whole process.
It is normal to lose confidence once bad result start coming in succession. I just finished watching some highlights from our matches of last season. This team has been struggling for sometime. We were only luckier last season. The opponents would missed opportunities of punishing us with a two goal lead, then we came out victorious in those matches with one-nil or two-one. Those same teams are wiser and have better finishers now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:53pm On Jan 08, 2014
GustavoFring: Neville was an experienced player who plied his trade at highest level for both club and country and worked under some of the world's best training coaches and will no doubt have picked up some of their tricks. Coaching wise, he has been involved with the England U-21 setup and holds a Uefa coaching badge.He knows the club and some of it's players from his playing days. What more do you you require a from a member of staff who even isn't the head coach at United?



The more reason you should like Neville who has won six Premier League titles, three FA Cups and the Champions League.



By what standards? Like I asked you earlier, are you privy to his training methods? and Are you a coach yourself? So how can you assess the competence of a member staff whose work is done mostly behind the scenes and away from the prying cameras on matchday?
This makes sense to me.

The Neville's case is akin to Guardiola's.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:48pm On Jan 08, 2014
dademola: when u are entering a new terrain, attempting to change things so suddenly and swiftly usually backfires!! Assuming he decided to rebuild d team immediately with the purchase of his own set of players, it would hav been a different issue buh it annoys me whenever i read the "i'm still getting to know the players" jargons moyes usually spews!
Na e sabi. But let us not forget sha, he had Neville who had been at United before.

My only problem is his refusal to sign players.

We know we can't get world best, but some kind of additions will make the difference. We haven't bench.

Yesterday when I looked at the bench, I couldn't find anyone who would make the difference.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:39pm On Jan 08, 2014
Ryan Giggs has warned Sunderland that Manchester United are due a change of fortune as they contemplate a League Cup semi-final fightback.

"We did not have that little bit of luck. I hit the crossbar and Adnan hit a shot against me when I was offside. On another day that, would have gone in or been given, but it just did not go for us.

"We will keep plugging away and we will look forward to the second leg. We are still in it and we look forward to it at Old Trafford."

"I thought both decisions were harsh. I thought the first one was a free-kick to us - but saying that, we still have got to defend the free-kick. We got punished for that, but we were getting back into the game with a great header from Nemanja, and it looked like there was only going to be one winner.

"We created enough chances, but unfortunately the decisions went against us. We were quite happy with our performance. We felt we did enough to at least get a draw, although I think we can work on the quality of our crosses and shots when we get into the final third.

"The only chances they really had were set-pieces. It was just one of those nights." [Source: Eurosport]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:28pm On Jan 08, 2014
dademola: pep has alws been a part of the barca setup! Pep has always been associated with winning! Pep already knew the club inside out. Stop d pep analogy abeg!!
Pep left Barca, played many years in other clubs before coming to take over. The only advantage I see was the one year with team B.

Moyes has been playing against Man United at least twice every season.

I am not in support of Moyes to stay or go. But just giving a bit of my input.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:24pm On Jan 08, 2014
dademola: everyone knows the transition process was never going to be 100% smooth. Moyes himsef admits that he's just knowing the players! Why did he then sack the guys that would have made these things a lot easier for him?? Nobody is saying moyes shud work with them forever, buh discarding them in his 1st season as manager, is just plain silly!!
If he didn't discard them at the time, he wouldn't ever have been able to again.

But I totally agree with you that with them around, his problem would have been half solved. His team selection would be easier because he would be told the abilities of each player, the effectiveness of combining certain set of players. The players who cope better under certain conditions, etc, etc.

However, successful people are usually known to taking radical decisions. Most winners do things in their own way when they take over an organisation. There are people who don't want the current stuff on ground to affect their visions. You can still he is still very stubborn in not bringing in players out of panic or to please anyone. You know Fellaini was a last option, perhaps to make it looked like he did something and take away the pressure. He not is bothered about renewing contracts after that Nani's own. He probably see that one now as a mistake.

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