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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:05pm On Dec 30, 2013
StarBoard: Interesting that someone who can't speak English is telling us about knowledge of the language

you are progressively dull to include Rooney in that list who never topped a scorers chart in any competition. Check that list and see who is the odd man out, and see whether you can compare Rooney with any of them.
How many goals did he score from the spot that said season you highlighted?
If you cannot comprehend that, then you must be lost beyond redemption. You called hi m a top striker, didn't you?
This is your problem. You watchout for typo and spelling errors in online chart. I was talking about comprehending my simple statement. Perhaps the reason you don't type much is to avoid errors, u hv to be sure to be at ur desk and to be able to read and reread b4 you submit your post.

Rooney is not the odd man out. The players there are top 9 strikers who are known for scoring from the inside the box. Scoring from people's effort, not necessarily theirs. Rooney played that way in only 2009/10. He scored over 30 goals that season. Some renowned top 9 weren't getting 30goals every season.

If I were to group Rooney, I will find players who play similar to him, from the deep. He is a number 10 I guess you know? A deep dropping number 10 with 150 EPL goals. We are not talking of cheap leagues where players score freely.

If Rooney were to be in City this season, he would be having at least 15 goals now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:24pm On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: [b]maybe u have a probLem comprehending.. Now read slowLy, look at my replies 2 ur posts, this time sLowLy.. U'lL get my point

U talked about suarez not being or not ending up in the league of ronaldo, messi and neymar and I said he is already in their league, den I went further to say neymar shouldn't be compared 2 suarez too cause for you to say suarez isn't in d league of messi and NEYMAR, u are indirectLy saying neymar is better than suarez, first point

U said liverpool sits 5th, den I said the gap between arsenal who sits top and liverpool who sits 5th isn't much, all thanks to suarez's goals, without suarez liverpool would have been in 8th position, liverpool can still win the league without suarez scoring against the top teams(and he can still score against d big teams in this second half of the season), like I said.. Its not a criteria.. I'm sure u'll tell me chicharito is better than suarez cause he scores against big teams and cause he has scored against liverpool this season, second point

U said suarez didn't score against chelsea, arsenal and man city neither did he create any assist, and I asked if it mattered, and den I said why not remove a goal 4rm his tally 4 every chance he didn't convert against chelsea, arsenal and man city, I went further to say that we are just entering the second half of the season and he can still score against those so calLed big teams, he did it last season so why u judging him now cause he hasn't done it this season, if he never scores against top teams I would have ended this argument a long time ago, didn't he score against chelsea, united and man city Last season.. What's your point?? [/b]
Wait oh! You meant Suarez is already in the league of Messi, Ronaldo? ... then Neymar?

Ukwu!!!

Argument is over.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:14pm On Dec 30, 2013
Suarez goals even though against botto.m teams is commendable at 66 min/goal.

I am not in a place I can log on to compute Berba's own, before mistake go enter then a certain ayagayagayagayo go dey shout liar, liar, liar. Lol

Also, Suarez probably missed some of the middle table teams during his ban.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coogar: elampiro is a hypocrite.....
see how he's hyping suarez - "suarez is the best player in the league because he's leading the scorer's chart". when berbatov had a similar run in 10/11, these hypocrites claimed berbatov was a flat track bully. now let's look at suarez's credentials....

3 league goals scored against the top 13 teams
16 league goals scored against the bottom 7 teams.

2 of the 3 goals suarez scored against the top 13 teams were against spurs(the weakest spurs team in the history of the premier league). so i ask, how was berbatov a flat track bully in 2010/11 & suarez is already the ballon d'or winner in the eyes of elampiro?
I am having a busy day, and I missed this post until sm1 just made a comment.

Berbatov Vs Suarez.

Berbatov was dry in may be 25 league games.

Suarez has only be dried for about 5 league games.

Suarez overall play is a million miles ahead of Berba.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:34pm On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: lol! D gap between arsenal and liverpooL isn't much, suarez is aLready in the League of ronaldo and messi, neymar?? U kidding me.. Don't let us start another argument abt who is better pLs.. Don't 4get, ronaldo didn't score in all d el cLasico he played same as messi, so why judge suarez cuz he didn't score against 3 top teams, its not like the season is over and its not like he hasn't scored against these teams in d past
Read well before you respond.

You just respond.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:32pm On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: u are even helping me out in this argument, torres' goaLs include UCL and he's just 8 ahead of suarez who still has half of d season 2 pLay and isn't pLaying in d champions League and europa League, if u say torres' goaLs include both ucl and epl and he scored just 65, den he's a big fLop, compared 2 suarez who hasn't pLayed in d champions League yet 4 liverpooL and he's just 8 behind torres, what will happen if liverpool qualifies 4 d CL
Your argument na wao!

Someone plays 100 matches including UCL and he scores let's say 30 goals
Another pays 100 matches without UCL and he scores 30 or 32 goals.

Which of them will you entrust with crucial matches?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:26pm On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: and it matters because? Why not remove 3 goaLs from his talLy since he didn't score against arsenal, chelsea and man city.. Cuz he hasn't done it yet doesn't mean he won't do it, atLeast he did it Last season, so?
huh
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:23pm On Dec 30, 2013
coogar: elampiro, stop lying.

in 09/10,
drogba scored a league goal every 96 mins
rooney scored a league goal every 104 mins

drogba had 13 league assists that season & rooney had only 5.
What is your source?

I am using phone on the go, and my quickest source has given me that data.

We are not talking about assists here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:00pm On Dec 30, 2013
Suarez has 19 goals, 5 assists. Superb!!! I must salute.

But none of his goals or assist have come against Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea.

This is Suarez season so far http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/epl/players.asp?player=31371
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: YearsTeamApps†(Gls)†
2001–2007Atlético Madrid. 214(82)
2007–2011Liverpool. 102(65)
2011–Chelsea. 96(17)
National team‡
2000-SpainU15. 1(0)
2001-SpainU16. 9(11)
2001-SpainU17 4(1)
2002-SpainU18. 1(1)
2002-SpainU19. 5(6)
2002–2003 SpainU21. 10(3)
2003–Spain 106(36)


YearsTeamApps†(Gls)†
2005–2006Nacional. 27(10)
2006–2007Groningen. 29(10)
2007–2011Ajax. 110(81)
2011–Liverpool. 91(57)
National team‡
2006–2007 UruguayU20. 4(2)
2007–Uruguay. 71(39)


What are u guys telling me, suarez is miLes ahead of torres, wtf, stats don't lie, can u see d number of games and goaLs
Athletico Madrid I know. Nacional or whatever I know not.

Torres goals for Liverpool include UCL goals. Torres goals for Spain has a Euro2008 wining goal- priceless.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
dopeJemi: just two against tottenham and one against everton, if you consider them as top teams, don't 4get, we just ended d FIRST HALF of the season

Which is better, scoring against top teams and not winning the league or not scoring against top teams and winning the League with ur goaLs, if u ask me I'll say not scoring against top teams.. U see why scoring and not scoring against top teams shouldn't be a criteria
Liverpool ended the 1st half of the season in 5th position.

So Suarez a natural number 9, playing top 9 now, couldn't score against Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City? Or did he miss any of these matches?

I saw Suarez against Ecuador in he qualifier, also in the confederation cup. He is not that kind of player who will end up being in the league of Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar. He is very good though. Just some steps ahead of RVP in the striking position. He could end up being a great striker like Raul or Villa.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:26am On Dec 30, 2013
@starboard:

2009/2010.

Rooney scored a league goal every 95 minutes, Drogba scored every 100 minutes.

I don't have their UCL stat. Rooney scored 33 in all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
2009/2010.

Rooney scored a league goal every 95 minutes, Drogba scored every 100 minutes.

I don't have their UCL stat. Rooney scored 33 in all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:42am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: I'm not saying baLe wasn't good in the 2010/11 season, he was.. Buh he became d compLete pLayer in the 2012/13 season(as much as I hate to use the word complete) and 2 me that was his best season, + he scored more goals Last season if I'm not mistaking
He was a forward player last season.

2010/11 na backman.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40am On Dec 30, 2013
@dopejemi, see u later. Busy now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:39am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: scoring or not scoring against top teams shouldn't be a criteria, buh we knw he has scored against d Likes of chelsea, Manchester united, tottenham and man city, dunno abt arsenal.. I don't think suarez has been much of an inbox scorer dis season, he's a beast, I think u need 2 watch more of him, he's d best pLayer in d League
I mean in his19 goals this season, how many against top teams?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:35am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: baLe's excellent Form came 2 notice last season not even when tottenham was in the champions League, if not he wouLd av been bought two seasons ago
No na. U don fall my hand. No wonder, you don't know Bale.

His best season was in 2010/11 when he assassinated defenders from left back position.

He was so young, yet he won the EPL player of the season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:32am On Dec 30, 2013
StarBoard: Rooney didn't top any chart that year or any for that matter.
Add Drogba /Remove Rooney from that list and stop peddling falsehoods.
So in your opinion, top striker = top scorer of the season?

Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo.


You hate for Rooney has made your knowledge of English to disappear.

Rooney was our top striker in 2009/10 scoring goals freely in EPL and UCL. Even, it was injury made made Drogba to meet up with Rooney and they pip us to he league with 1 point.

In that list, Rooney is the striker who even scores from withdrawn positions. Most others are from within 10 yards.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:19am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: lol! And baLe was competing against difficult defenders and playing in the champions League b4 he was bought 4 100milLion, guy Leave dah issue
Bale played in the UCL. He virtually singlehandedly took Totteham to the knockout stage.

From a defensive point, he was causing havoc to opponents.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:15am On Dec 30, 2013
@dayokanu,

I have a reason for the combo of Toure..... Mascherano.

With the right mix, Toure will poo on anyone1's head. He is a great great great midfielder.

I don't want to continue that argument. In the line you are towing, Pirlo will be considered a poo midfielder 'cos he lost to many European rivals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:15am On Dec 30, 2013
@dayokanu,

I have a reason for the combo of Toure..... Mascherano.

With the right mix, Toure will poo on anyone1's head. He is a great great great midfielder.

I don't want to continue that argument. In the line you are towing, Pirlo will be considered a poo midfielder 'cos he lost to many European rivals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:57am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: lol! Torres did not score 19 goals in 13 league matches,and I'm sure torres did not miss 6 games 2 come and top d list of highest goaL scorers, suarez struggLed in europa?? Lol!
If Suarez was in UCL we could have access him better. Do you have record of his goals against the top teams? Pls I just want to see to analyse him further. I am yet to be so carried away. £60m is okay for him. He is an inbox scorer, just like you will have in Raul or David Villa. He is not Neymar who takes on three players with ease..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:48am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: we bought RVP b4 madrid bought BaLe.. If we are 2 sell Rvp nau, den we shouLd be asking 4 90million, Rooney-130million... D baLe saga spoiled d market
Rooney and RVP are old.

Bale has the potential of being another CR7. Had Nani lived up to his potential he could have worth so much. Janujaz is the next player to end up in the elite zone of huge price tag should he develop well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35am On Dec 30, 2013
Suarez = a top striker scoring goals. Sometimes he beats a man and score.
Torres at Liverpool = Same as above.
RVP= Top striker scoring goals.
Raul = Top striker who scored plenty vital goals.
Inzaghi= Top striker who scored plenty vital goals.
Rooney 2009/10= Top striker scoring goals.


Most of the above were players who got passes in the box, involved in build ups around the box and later score those balls.

Messi: A striker who takes the ball in the deep, dribbles several players on the way on the enroute to making/scoring goals.
Ronaldo: A striker/winger who takes the ball in the deep, outpace everyone on the way or even dribble past some enroute to making/scoring goals.
Neymar: A striker /winger who takes the ball in the deep, dribbles some players on the way enroute to maing goals.
Bale: A midfielder/winger/defender who takes the ball in the deep, sometimes own half, outpace everyone enroute to scoring/making goals.

Most of the above score a great % of their goals from bullets outside the box after sending their markers to the gutters. This was how Maradonna and Pele became soccer greatest. Pele and Maradonna started most of their havocs from the deep, went solo or exchange a few passes to getting vital goals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:15am On Dec 30, 2013
How much did we buy RVP that anyone would want Suarez sold for £150m? Are we saying Suarez is 5 times a better striker than RVP?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:05am On Dec 30, 2013
dopeJemi: 50, 60million 4 suarez?? Lol! U are high, when baLe was bought 4 100m euros.. I think it will be safe 2 say suarez is worth 150
What is Suarez doing that Torres did not do? Torres was scoring against he big teams, scoring in UCL, etc. Common Europa Suarez is struggling.

Bale was a torment to UCL teams when Totteham went to Europe. Bale was tormenting them from the left back position until they went out to Madrid. I think there was a red card which ruined the fixture. Suarez is a striker (top 9), but Bale caused his havoc from the defence/deep/wing.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:01am On Dec 30, 2013
Dayokanu dey bring argument when I don exhaust finish for the day.

I go bike you na. Today na Monday already.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:58am On Dec 30, 2013
I don sleep o.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:57am On Dec 30, 2013
dayokanu: Busquets Schweinsteiger and Martinez are examples of better midfielders than Yaya. Football is about sense and not size. I would even pick Vidal ahead of Yaya sef

Which EPl club rejected Ballack? The Ballack who won the EPL and 3 FA cups
Robben left the EPl for a better club. Its like saying Ronaldo is an EPL reject

Thiago is whose Maestro? I know you are lacking in football knowledge, I never knew its this bad
Toure is better than all the guys you mentioned. They are only opportuned to be in established clubs. Take them to Galatasaray and see weeping and sorrow.

Ballack and Robben were rejects. Chelsea is not a selling club under current management. Only EPL flops are put in canoe and paddled away.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:52am On Dec 30, 2013
dayokanu: Yaya toure has spent how many yrs at Man City without smelling the CL knockout stages?

How many times has Citys midfield been dominated in EUrope in the past 3 seasons? Countless

From Bayern to Dortmund to Madrid to Ajax to Napoli to even freaking Sporting Lisbon

Yaya and Citys midfield is everyones biatch in Europe
Midfield is not City's problem.

For the fact that Juv or AC Milan are currently poor in UCL doesn't mean Buffon and co are not some of the best in their positions.

What about Bale who couldn't get Totteham to UCL group stage on two occasions? But he's one f the best in the world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:45am On Dec 30, 2013
coogar: i am not interested in the yaya toure debate. i am just asking you what your thoughts are about suarez this season. is he the best player in the league?
Suarez is the best so far. £50m-£60m at this time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:42am On Dec 30, 2013
dayokanu: Yes so what? No wonder he was shipped off unceremoniously. A great great great midfielder who was chased out of Barca.

Its only in the epl that players sent out of clubs become cult heroes like Demba Ba, Kompany, Toure etc.

Yaya is a good mdfielder, great great is an over statement
What were you thinking? I should have chosen Martinez or Thiago?

Robben is EPL reject, shipped away in a rotten basket.
Ballack is EPL reject. Couldn't fit in. Lost a UCL final to Anderson.
Thiago was surplus to requirement in Laliga. Is now your maestro.

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