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coded guy: ^^

We know licking Rooneys aZzz is breakfast,lunch brunch and dinner for a charlatan on this thread!.

Have you taken breakfast or lunch today? If you haven't, you know the solution.

[quote author=chrisley024]Jus like our guy here. [/quote

Haile Selassie

I don log out to give you guys chance to enjoy your antiRooney comments. Looks like it's a breakfast for some, lunch or dinner for some others. It substitutes for odeku for some, while it takes the place of cigarette for others. When some of you can't get money to buy lunch or odeku or weed, you take the frustration to weep here with antiRooney comments. I understand.

Moyes is learning on the job. He has learnt you don't play the good boy else referees take you for granted at the expense of tough talking coaches like Mourinho.


I thought some of you were praising Moyes when he hinted in the summer Rooney could be on the bench. Some of you even called Rooney spear tyre. Now your tune has changed "Moyes is worshiping Rooney". May be he is proving himself above the rest in training.

David Moyes unrepentant over Ashley Young's diving

Manager will not speak to midfielder over theatrics
 Young vilified for taking tumble against Real Sociedad


Friday 8 November 2013 14.34 GMT

Ashley Young was awarded a penalty for Manchester United against Real Sociedad, despite appearing to dive. Photograph: Peter Cziborra/Action Images

Press Association

The Manchester United manager, David Moyes, has confirmed he has not spoken to Ashley Young in the wake of this week's diving furore. Young has been at the centre of more unwanted attention after apparently going to ground too easily to win his side a penalty against Real Socieded in midweek.

Moyes defended his player at the time and is still doing so now. "No," said Moyes, when he was asked whether he had spoken to Young. "The referee was two yards away from it and gave a penalty. If you need to talk to anybody, you should ask the referee. I didn't see an issue at all."

Moyes's attitude may disappoint some, given that he has spoken out against diving in the past and censured Young earlier this year, when the England winger was booked for simulation against Crystal Palace.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/08/david-moyes-unrepentent-ashley-young-diving-manchester-united

Ashley Young dive defended by Manchester United boss David Moyes

By Massimo Marioni Wednesday 6 Nov 2013 8:25 am ⁠

Taking a tumble: Ashley Young (Picture: Sky Sports)

David Moyes has defended Ashley Young after the winger sparked another diving storm in Manchester United’s Champions League draw at Real Sociedad.

Young went to ground under minimal contact from Markel Bergara in the second-half of the 0-0 draw and earned a penalty for United, which Robin van Persie turned onto the post.

But Moyes, who has previously reprimanded Young over his simulation, backed the 28-year-old in the post-match press conference.

‘I’ve seen it and the boy certainly tugs him in the box,’ he said. ‘The referee is two yards away from it and decides to give it.

‘All I know is he got a penalty kick from a decision; I don’t know about his reputation, but the referee is there and he gave it.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/06/ashley-young-diving-defended-by-manchester-united-boss-david-moyes-4175310/

Please, scientists have said people should not try observing it on 28th and 29th as it will not be healthy. It might hurt the eyes. Should the comet survive after 29th, it will be bright in the sky in December and those in the northern hemisphere will have a field day watching it with naked eyes for many days.

Oghos1: Good news.

Rafael, vidic, kagawa n RVP are most likely to be available for our ucl match. Even jones has an outside chance

Was Kagawa injured before?

dademola: elampiro!! This coming from you??

No, I have never criticized Busquet and Martinez.

I praised Martinez to high heaven when Bayern won the UCL trophy.

I said Busquet is better than Carrick in speed and direct tackles.

StarBoard: Another slowpoke.ic point of view to answer an already silly question.
So Distin wasn't fit when he played for City Pompey or Newcastle previously?
Or was David Moyes the only coach/manager he played for prior to the latter's departure?
Yet Suarez scored and missed chances on Saturday yet you would want us to believe he was well contained by super Sylvan.
Were you a tadpole in your previous life?

I can bet you didn't watch the match and other Everton matches. Distin did his work 100%. Don't also forget City beat United 4-1.

StarBoard: Fact: When faced with the chance to bail United from a sticky situation at the death, your hero could not deliver.
Deal with that.
van Persie, Young and Kagawa aren't shafting £250k a week and angling for more despite having a pass accuracy of 62% vs the same Sociedad.
Tell Rooney to step up and stop this headless chicken work rate rubbish and get his ego to vacate the no 10 position for people who are more effective in that role.
AAnd get your crusty lips off his dic/k.
Or are we getting another lecture on Mexico 86?

You were making small sense until you mention 62% pass accuracy and worst is your continued ga.yish comments. Na so e dey start. You keep poisoning your mind with ga.y thoughts. Now it is being adopted by others on this thread. Hope it won't affect their brain.

62% pass accuracy or 50% pass accuracy is not an issue as long as you can grab 3 points. Rooney had poor pass accuracy in some matches last season we opened a 21 points gap on top of Oscar, Mata, Harard and Moses who were making 80% pass accuracy and above. Or Silva, Arguero and co at the other end.

I think it was in 2006 world cup Argentina were stringing series of passes together, yet they went out and Italy won the world cup managing to find the definition of passing. We saw a similar scenario when Italy played Japan in the confederation cup. Japan could pass 15 times uninterrupted but Italy thought them football is more than that.

Haven said the above, had RVP always fit to play, Kagawa not always jet lag, Nani, Anderson, Young and Valencia in form, Carrick and Cleverly always fit, Rooney will not be doing so much workaholic stuff in the team which we all know can affects ones concentration. We have been without Rafael who makes things happen, and Jones joined again.

debosky: Seriously guys, what's up with RVP? Is he injured or what?

Maybe that Dutch coach was right about Moyes and his backward training methods.

His training method is okay. You have to look at the fitness level of Everton players to appreciate it. Distin is 35, he is fitter and faster than Ferdinand and Vidic. Suarez could not get away from him for once even in the middle of the field.

Has any one noticed how some rastafarians have mentioned Rooney's last minute miss in every comment or argument they make, whether related or not? It is ironic that same ayagayagayagayos failed to pin any slightest of blame when RVP missed from close rage on a one on one with the goalkeeper and two other previous occasions. Had it been Rooney who missed it and a penalty, this thread would have been awashed for 5 days about how Balotelli or Ronaldo or Lambert or Lampard would have buried the penalty to secure us three points. Instead what we had was praises upon praises how Kagawa, RVP and Young changed the tempo. At the end Sociedad could have won it.

It is a sure banker that the last paragraph of a certain rastafarian ends with an anthem of Rooney's poor decision.

I salute o.

Rooney insists he was fit last season.



Rooney said: ‘I feel good but my energy levels were the same last season – I’ve got all the statistics, so I know.

‘Every player gets the stats from every training session and every game, and I go through them all every day.

‘It’s important to know how much running you’re doing and it’s important to know when you need a rest.’

Moyes revealed he could rest Rooney  in the coming weeks, saying: ‘Somewhere along the line I’ll probably need to give Wayne a breather.

‘I’ll need to try to look after him as we go along. It might be the next England games against Denmark in March but I know Wayne and he will want to play.

‘I’ve got probably got another 25-30 games so it’s not me saying to England give him a break in March – I think I probably need to look after him somewhere in the next two months.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/24/wayne-rooney-bites-back-at-sir-alex-fergusons-fitness-jibe-4199358/


See you guys at night.

dayokanu: You are conceeding many goals because you are giving away too many chances to the opponents to run at your defence.

Watch the West Brom game and see how many chances the Baggies had that day? Thats insane

Prior to this season any team that has 5 shots vs Man Utd would go for thankgiving the norm usually is that teams get 2-3 chances and score from it

nowadays lowly opponents are getting 10 shots at goal

yesterday Cardiff had 15 shots and 5 on target, West Brom had an incredible 12 shots in Old trafford

It took you almost 24 hours after the match before your soccer magazine analysis could help you reach this analysis I have long summarized. Yet you only have the problem but not the solution. A good soccer analyst should know why we are coming under pressure from opponents.

dayokanu: People who watch football and dont depend on pool results know Failainni was playing as a second striker most of the time in Everton and the truth is Failaini is a liability when it comes to defensive midfield

Buying that indisciplined liability in United and expecting him to start playing like a real midfielder is like asking Yekini to play like Oliseh. Do you think its a coincidence that top clubs were always overlooking Failaini while in Everton? Thats the similar reason why Juventus had to drop Oliseh for Tacchinardi because Sunday was always interested in glory hunting shots upfront and exposing the defence to counters when he is away.

Thats why midfielders like Busquets, Martinez, Carrick who stay back and do the little breaking of play are always hailed by eagle eyed analyst but Pool sheet analyst like you would say they are not doing anything since they dont score like Failaini

Kagawa has barely been given playing time this season while Failaini has played a lot

Was this not the same defence that won the title last season

Did any team in the whole EPL top 4 change defence from last season? How come the defence wasnt the problem last season but suddenly became a problem this season under that mid table manager and the caricature of Sideshow bob?

Why was Failaini never a choice under Ferguson, and even this season it was until every Saliu, Chike and Supo turned you down before you went to buy overpriced Failaini to save face
Try play any top team and put Failaini in midfield.

Someone who relied on pool football magazines, BBC sports and arab TVs + Canal france in his early days will be a zillion mile more knowledgeable than you who relied on monthly soccer prints which were only filled with pictures of soccer players and how beautiful their kitchen and toilets looked. Everyone read those magazines as one would read ikebe super or city people.


One one more word. Show me where I have ever criticise Martinez and Bousqet? You are blinded by your dislike for me for drawing you on the floor that you get issues screwed upside down.

StarBoard: How about our forward play?
any positive going forward?

Our strikers are scoring despite spending huge amount of time dropping deep to help the defence and midfield. How many times do we see Suarez, Aguero, etc, dropping to 18 box to defend an attacking build up from open play? Yesterday alone I saw Rooney and Valencia in our box trying to defend nornal.

Two goals were enough to win, we conceded too cheaply, or we are conceding too many goals.

Fellaini who was a god in Everon even this season, is suddenly a bad midfielder. We can say the same for Kagawa. We also have Valencia who plays well for Ecuador but struggle in Man Untied.

Now, how can Kagawa, Valencia, Nani, Cleverly, Carrick, Anderson, etc be all poor at same time? Time to look outside the box. Part of it could be that we have not have stable quality defence. The experienced defenders lack pace. The pacing defenders lack experience. Except we give the young guys run of games, we can't get a solid CB pairing. We only have to look at Ivanovic/Cahin/Terry/Luis or Kompany/Lescott + Zabeleta on their side to see how weak our defence is.

This writer corroborates my impression on Ferdinand and Vidic lack of pace affecting our overall play.




Nov 25, 2013 9:30:00 AM

David Moyes should promote his youthful centre-backs

By Wayne Veysey

TIME TO GIVE MORE CENTRAL ROLES TO SMALLING, EVANS & JONES

Lost amid the tornado of news headlines provoked by Sir Alex Ferguson’s recently-published autobiography were some tactical nuggets about past and present Manchester United players.

It is especially timely to recall Ferguson’s insights about veteran centre-back pair Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic as they adapt their games to cope with advancing years and diminishing legs.

Assessing the impact of Pep Guardiola’s all-conquering Barcelona, the former United manager wrote: “To beat Barcelona in that cycle you needed centre-backs who could be really positive. Rio and Vidic were at an age where their preference was to defend the space. Nothing wrong with that. Quite correct. But, against Barcelona, it’s a limited approach.

“You need centre-backs who are prepared to drop right on top of [Lionel] Messi and not worry about what is happening behind them. Ok, he’ll drift away to the side. That’s fine. He’s less of a threat on the side than he is through the centre.”

Reflecting on Barcelona’s comprehensive 3-1 win over United in the 2011 Champions League final at Wembley, Sir Alex added: “After the inquest I told myself: ‘When we play Barcelona next time in a Champions League final, I would have Jones and Smalling, or Smalling and Evans, right on top of Messi.’ I wasn’t going to let him torture us again.”

Two-and-a-half years later, and Vidic and Ferdinand remain the first-choice centre-backs at Old Trafford. However, the years are catching up with the titans of the team that reached three Champions League finals out of four from 2008-2011 and won five Premier League titles in seven years.

Vidic did not travel with the United team that drew 2-2 at Cardiff City on Sunday after suffering concussion midway through the 1-0 victory over Arsenal a fortnight earlier, the latest in a seemingly never-ending list of ailments for the Serbian warrior.

Ferdinand, paired with Jonny Evans in his first league start for two months, looked every day of his 35 years as he struggled to cope with the acceleration of former United attacker Fraizer Campbell, a striker he would have eaten for breakfast at his peak.

Perhaps more worryingly for David Moyes was that Ferdinand looked dead on his feet by the time substitute Kim Bo-Kyung darted in front of him to score the added-time header that sealed Cardiff a share of the points.

Moyes has shown this season that, like Ferguson he puts greater store in Ferdinand and Vidic’s experience and than their susceptibility to injury and forwards with extreme pace.

However, it is questionable whether the new manager’s enthusiasm is shared by the midfielders tasked with screening the increasingly vulnerable pair.

With Ferdinand and Vidic dropping deep to avoid being burned by quick forwards, the likes of Michael Carrick, Marouane Fellaini, Tom Cleverley and Phil Jones are obliged to play 10 or 20 yards deeper than they would if the goal was protected by a more mobile centre-back pair. In turn, this limits their capacity to dominate possession further up the field.

Few major teams rotate their centre-backs as frequently as United, who have five centre-backs who would walk into most Premier League sides.

Vidic, who turned 32 last month, and Ferdinand, 35, are both out of contract next summer. The likelihood is that the Serbian will be offered an extension to his deal, although Ferdinand's extra years could count against him.

There is a strong argument for Moyes building his defence around early-twenty-somethings Smalling, Jones and Evans, who all have their best years ahead of them. Vidic still has much to offer as a battle-hardened leader but it is time for him to take on more of a squad role.

Unquestionably, Jones, currently out with a groin injury, is a formidable athlete and the usefulness of his versatility over the course of a season should not be underestimated. He is also beginning to answer doubts, both inside and outside the club, as to whether he possesses the positional nous to develop into an A-list centre-back.

Smalling, an international centre-back in midweek but a club right-back five days later, looks especially in need of a run of games at the heart of the defence, which particularly benefitted Evans two seasons ago.

Moyes has the personnel. He just needs to demote the old guard and offer their successors his complete trust.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2013/11/25/4430964/manchester-united-can-no-longer-rely-on-old-warriors?ICID=HP_FT_2

I didn't want Giggs yesterday. Cardiff were very fast and they knew how to shield the ball from losing possession.

Fellaini was marking players from the wrong side. He is not making his size count. Although he started well.

dademola: why did u hav to bring rooney into dis matter again for christ's sake?

This is what I felt when I came to this thread early this year. Every excuse was looked for to bring Rooney down or drawn to a level he would be blamed for the team poor performance in matches.

You can see why I have always defended Rooney every time. You too have blasted me for that.

In other Man United fans forum or facebook page, I don't react to negative comments about Rooney because I could see a sense of balance. There is a difference when a comment is said out of objective and constructive criticism, and when it is said out of total dislike or even hate.

Nani was decent against Sweden compared to his recent national team matches. All the Portuguese players step up against Sweden.

Something you will enjoy reading.

Conversation with a Golden Eaglet parent.

Chief Effiong….Don’t go there….don’t just go there. A whole country gave my son two million naira, an individual brought one million naira and you are querying me…?

Hon Minister…The federal Government’s donation was an appreciation, one that is bound to open the flood gates for more of such. The one million naira from the agent may be an invitation to slavery, a bet that you may regret

Full conversation here.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/conversation-golden-eaglet-parent/

RuuDie: Abeg, abeg, abeg... DM cost us 3 pts by ball-watching when he could have been marking a man, or not picking up the runner and worst of all, choosing to pass when he could have poked the ball into a gaping goal!!?

Formation/Selection aside, that UTD side is decent enough to beat Cardiff --- if they had taken the chances they had and (or) defended sensibly at the key moments --- DM is in no way culpable for those!

The selection may have looked decent before kick off, but during the match some players were totally off and it affected our game. At 1-2, Cadiff had the better chances. We only needed to take the play off them. It was evident Janujaz was struggling. For the first time in along while I blamed Evans for a goal. The midfield didn't close down opponents enough and we could not dominate possession. Chicharito was alone in his farm the second half. Yet we carried on that way until about the 70th minute.

RVP was out, yet we couldn't put Kagawa on the bench incase.... . At the end we had to use Giggs against a very fast playing team. Moyes may take consolation that we got a point where City lost earlier in the season. But City dominated play, Cadiff only used fastt counter to kill City.

Moyes doesn't have the entire blame, our players were not professional enough. Welbeck missed, we allowed a short man to get his head first on a cross into our box. Then Rooney missed a great chance to win it on added time.

* for the 2nd time now, Janujaz has struggled. Is everything evaporating so fast or it's one of those things? I don't understand how Moyes will see an 18 years old struggling, yet you have Nani on the bench. At his worst, Nani won't give such a poor performance. Nani will not lose possession so carelessly or bullied off the ball so easily.

It was in the subs I blame Moyes most.

Phil Jones is a very important player for Man United at this point in time. We always take his performance in the midfield for granted.

Yesterday, I forgot we had Anderson on the bench. Why does a player has to be on the bench? We were being pummeled in the midfield, yet we had a third natural CM on the bench. His energy should have been very useful. We also had Nani and Young as unused sub. We could have even ended the match on a 4-3-3.

Cleverley Fellaini. Anderson
Valencia/Welbeck/Nani Rooney. Nani/Young.

My sleep was affected. Dropping two points yesterday was very painful. A win should have helped keep us in the race for top stop by year end.

Is it that Moyes has not understood our players enough to know how to sub, and use them for the best?

Jones or Vidic should always be in our defense.

coded guy: Nobody is trying to criticize Rooney, we are criticising him hoha! With 1m pounds per month he should be doing the impossible like Ronaldo, Messi, ibra. His supposed mates, but know the iddiot decides to pass when he should be pulling the trigger or even chipping the keeper.

If he lacks confidence, it only goes to prove that Rooney's decision making is abysmal and to have someone like that playing in the hole will give us results like this cardff result when we need him to justify his pay. Did he not see what CR and Ibra do few days ago?.

I know u are a Rooney lover, I have berated other players too, b4 u will say is it only Rooney on the pitch, if you haven't already.

Your criticism was going out of place when you said Rooney should have passed to Chichi in his shot for the first goal. That was a shooting ball.

chamotex: Moyes: "I would have taken the result (2-2 draw) before the game."

Is this man a bastard?
And we want to win the league?

Unbelievable!!! No wonder he was trying to defend the game.

BinghiNya: Valencia this rooney that, the midfield was totally bleeped rooney didn't cost. Man u 3 points, moyes did, why bring in giggs, is that what united can offer, smalling should go for basic lessons in passing, fellaini is a waste of space in united, let us fight for top 4, the team lacks the spirit of champions, the injuries didn't help matters

To me Fellaini tried. He only soften his play in the last minutes.

Ecuador vs Uruguay was not a friendly match. Valencia was the best player. They wasted so many of his clear cut chances he created.

afrodoc: [/b]

That is because the full back didn't recognize him. Valencia is a limited and one-way winger who will always be found out in the EPL cos opponents have had enough time to study him and know he is completely one-sided.

It is not surprising he shines for Ecuador against full backs and scouts that see him once in a blue moon and struggles in the league where his opponents watch him weekly.

P.S the Argentine full back Orban was having his debut for Argentina i believe so its not too surprising that he had a torrid time, not sure how many times he has actually seen Valencia play.

I think the major thing is that black guy who plays right back for Ecuador. Valencia don't support him at he back as much as he does for Rafael, Smalling or Jones. The guy is like having Ashley cole or Zabeleta behind you.

1-0
2-1
3-2

You are never safe and the opponent will thrown everything at you from 80th minute, after all they have nothing to lose again. We have just +5 goals after 12 games.

Just as our hop was rising, this happened.