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 European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:36pm On Aug 06, 2013 |
From the BBC report, it is obvious that Beckham sold more than Cantona, and Rooney sold more than Beckham, and he (Rooney) has the highest shirt sale ever. Argument closed. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:28pm On Aug 06, 2013 |
coogar: i will check on this....[b]Again you are so wrong. Kitbag does not even have this license to put EPL badges, print numbers and names on the shirts, I think kitbag it is just an outsource or a distributing company to Sporting ID. Sporting iD Official Supplier of Letters and Numbers for Barclays Premier League Players’ Kits Sporting iD has produced the official sleeve badge for the Premier League since 1993 and been the official licensee and supplier for players' names and numbers since 1997. Established in 1982, Sporting iD - the world’s largest manufacturer to the sports trade - has 30 years’ experience in professional and replica football kit printing, supplying the names and numbers for every player of the 20 Premier League clubs. Sporting iD also supplies the global retail sports trade as well as international clubs, brands, federations and confederations across the world. For more information about Sporting iD, please visit: www.sporting-id.com http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/commercial/sporting-id.html[/b] |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:09pm On Aug 06, 2013 |
coogar: i want to see this report - don't just throw conjectures in the air without backing it up. i have also seen a report where OBJ was the highest goal scorer in japanese league.[b]He is not only the highest shirt sale of all time, but by a wide margin. Rooney tops Premier League shirt sales in past 20 years. I haven't the time to go look for piece of information I came across previously just because of online football argument. But take a look below and see that Cantona was mentioned. This is another report from BBC. The record used was from 1993. 'Rooney' has been revealed as the top-selling name on the back of Premier League replica shirts over the past 20 seasons. The Manchester United striker has beaten Liverpool's Steven Gerrard to the honour with Fernando Torres in third followed by Cristiano Ronaldo and Frank Lampard. The figures come from Sporting iD, the company that provides the numbers and letters for the shirts. But one name could have beaten Rooney to the award. Premier League's top-selling shirt names 1 Wayne Rooney 2 Steven Gerrard 3 Fernando Torres 4 Cristiano Ronaldo 5 Frank Lampard "Had David Beckham remained in the Premier League then this list might have looked different," said Rob Thayne, the company's global sales & marketing director. "Certainly his move to Real Madrid in the summer of 2003 triggered record sales of 'Beckham 23' shirts, and before him Eric Cantona was a best seller. "We first started producing Rooney's official player identity in 2002 after he made his professional debut with Everton at the age of 16. We then had to expand that production greatly following his move to Manchester United in the summer of 2004. "But he truly went into a league of his own in 2007 when Ruud van Nistelrooy vacated the Manchester United number 10 and there is a global demand that shows no sign of abating." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17888426[/b] coogar: rooney's image rights is part of why he earns £250k per week. all these funds are estimated, worked out and spread out over 52 weeks to calculate his wages per week.[b]So if in your opinion Rooney's image right is part of the reason he earns 250k per week, why were you crying that he earns too much? Is he not entitled to his right? But honestly this is an assumption from you, you can't even tell us what percentage is his image right.[/b] coogar: david beckham was a better football brand than rooney. beckham had the looks to go with it and he's played for 2 of the biggest shirt making brands for the 2 of the biggest clubs in the world. playing for man utd and real madrid was going to guarantee that. this is why beckham is 4-5 times richer than rooney can ever be.Rooney has by far made money for United more than Beckham. Rooney has since surpassed Beckham in shirt sale in EPL records. If Rooney goes to another club he will even sell more because he will be seen as a new bride by the fans of the club. How do you know Beckham is 4 to 5 times richer? Rooney's 250k a week I know, Beckham I don't know what he earned in his last days, and he definitely did not earn so much at United. Except you are able to pull out their worth (from football and other sources of income)your argument won't hold water. coogar: you are a village boy.....[b]Warisdiz? Are you saying fans pay into the bank account or credit cards of individual players when they buy shirts, tickets and TV subscription/right? Everything revenue received by a club inrespect of the above goes to the club's account. From there everyone is paid. In that revenue pool (account) proceeds from the sale of some players kits, etc have far a bigger percentage than others. Someone might be earning 60k per week but what the club get from his sale of his product when taken as a single unit might not add up to his salary of 60k, whereas, another player unit income from sales and promotional proceed is capable of paying a wage of 1 million/week. I used the example of a bank branch manager who narrows the office income based on individual marketing effort, whereas every staff salary is paid, only very few usually drive the bulk of the income. You can have an office where only two of your staff marketing effort generates the 80 percent of the business while the remaining 20 generates only 20%. But all the staff have to be kept because it's a team.[/b] |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:27am On Aug 06, 2013 |
chamotex: Elampiro you need to get off Rooney's arsse mehnI have many many post here I didn't mention Rooney. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:54am On Aug 06, 2013 |
Rooney Shirt Printing is most popular in 20 years of Premier League  In a report appearing on the official Barclays Premier League website, it was announced that in the 20 years of Premier League football, the most popular player name printed on football shirts has been that of Wayne Rooney by a large margin. The shirts with Rooney printing started being produced in 2002 when the English forward made his debut with Everton, but their demand soared when he moved to Manchester United in the summer of 2004, and when Ruud van Nistelrooy vacated the number 10 jersey in 2007. The data regarding shirt sales comes from Sporting iD, which has developed the technology behind the replica shirts of the Premier League since 1993. Rooney’s name came ahead of those of Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard, Chelsea striker Fernando Torres (counting also when he was at Liverpool), ex-Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo, and Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard. The market for the Premier League shirts has been expanding year after year, with the demand for shirt printing following suit. The popularity of Wayne Rooney is showing no signs of diminishing as the player is breaking record after record to write his name in the all-time stars list of Manchester United. http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/rooney-shirt-printing-is-most-popular-in-20-years-of-premier-league_15388 .............................. Rooney is not just the most popular shirt sale, but the most popular by a large margin since 1993, the highest in Premier League history. I have told myself not to involve in endless arguments. This shows the collation dated back to 1993. Shearer, Henry, Giggs, Cantona, Beckham,Lampard, etc all played in the period used and Rooney came on top. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:27am On Aug 06, 2013*. Modified: 2:14am On Aug 06, 2013 |
coogar: stop talking rubbish jare....the stats are based on kitbag's sales. kitbag itself only started operating in 99. they didn't start collating stats until after the millennium, so how's linekar or shearer or beckham relevant in these stats?You got it wrong. I have seen report where Cantona was having the highest sale at a time. And Cantona didn't play till 99. Rooney had almost 45% the United sales for a long period, so how can RVP one season sale be anywhere near that? So what is the image right for Wayne Rooney? CR7 has 60%, bu we weren't even told if shirt sale was part of it. Also we read how Beckham made money for PSG in shirt sales, no one mentioned if he made a any personal cash from the sales. We can't rely on presumptions. If Beckham has made over a billion pounds in Jersey sale for his clubs, I wonder how much Rooney has made for United. Clubs make more money from promotional proceeds of some players than others. It's just like a bank, some bank marketers have brought in much more deposits that generates income big enough to pay 500 workers whereas other marketers are in the negative, their deposit mobilized can't even pay them not to talk of colleagues. But everyone still earn salary from the pool. Even though the money came from the customers, the records have it at whose instance the monies were generated. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Catholic Nun Experiences Passion Of Christ Live by elampiro(m): 12:24am On Aug 06, 2013 |
It's a long read. What can I say? Who is like God. What a story! What an account! What a great confirmation f our faith! What a powerful God we have! |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14am On Aug 06, 2013*. Modified: 12:30am On Aug 06, 2013 |
coogar: all-time highest seller is irrelevant - he's the longest serving united striker we have had since kitbag started collating the stats..... it's all about the present!It is not about being a striker. Is Gerald a striker? Was Beckham a striker? At least I know Rooney has not served half of Giggs time. Beckam also served a long time, even strikers as Lineker and Shearer served their clubs longer time but Rooney holds the highest sale ever in UK and abroad. RVP has probably not contributed 5% of the revenue the club has got from Rooney. Rooney is paying salaries of fellow players and coaches as well as growing the club overall income. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:53pm On Aug 05, 2013 |
coogar: rooney did what for 9 years? ruud & ronaldo sold more shirts than rooney when they were here.I haven't time for long arguments. It is a fruitless exercise. However, I wasn't even talking about shirts. But in respect of shirts, Rooney's was the second highest selling behind Kagawa in the first few weeks of release of the new shirt 2013/14 season. Even now he is reported still second. This is not the first time Rooney dropped behind in shirt and rebounded, he will rebound again. Don't forget too, he is the all time highest seller, all for United. RVP has that long road to travel. When will he get there, should there be a big signing, RVP chance of growing his sales will be gone forever. So he won't even get to Rooney's record. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Catholic Nun Experiences Passion Of Christ Live by elampiro(m): 11:26pm On Aug 05, 2013 |
Sal C: Going through the link, I realize she's probably a stigmata.Yes, she is a stigmata. They suffer a lot but highly blessed by heaven. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:15pm On Aug 05, 2013 |
coogar: RVP has surpassed rooney.....why calculate how long when a new player dethroned rooney's work of 9 years....Exactly what I am saying. Rooney did it for 9 years. So for how long will RVP do it? RVP might not even be relevant by 2015. So I am not carried away by his one season football for United. In the United history book RVP is just a kid. And who says Rooney can't beat him this coming season? |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40pm On Aug 05, 2013 |
RuuDie: @ Elampiro.Warisdiz? Let's see how long RVP will go. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:52pm On Aug 05, 2013*. Modified: 9:34pm On Aug 05, 2013 |
The top three selling Premier League shirts all belong to Manchester United players (for now) The annual list of the Premier League's top 10 best selling shirts has been released and, as always, it gives a bit of insight into what does (and doesn't) affect the popularity of individual players. Here's the list for the 2012/13 season: [b]1. Robin van Persie (Manchester United) 2. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) 3. Shinji Kagawa (Manchester United) 4. Sergio Aguero (Manchester City) 5. Fernando Torres (Chelsea) 6. Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 7. Luis Suarez (Liverpool) 8. Jack Wilshere (Arsenal) 9. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal) 10. Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) [/b]The first thing you'll notice is that the Manchester clubs account for all of the top four and Manchester United specifically has the top three on lockdown. At least, as long as Wayne Rooney (who is the top shirt seller in Premier League history) doesn't leave the club. Fernando Torres remains in the top five despite scoring just eight Premier League goals last season (and six the season before that), showing that a drop in form doesn't necessarily impact fans' loyalty to an individual player. Nor does being found guilty of racial abuse and a second biting incident since Luis Suarez is also on the list at No. 7. Noticeably absent from the list is Gareth Bale, perhaps suggesting that Real Madrid could be overvaluing his commercial appeal with their potentially record setting pursuit of him. Chelsea's Frank Lampard and Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard, meanwhile, have both dropped off the list even though Gerrard remains the No. 2 shirt seller within the UK. To put this top 10 into a bit of context, here's the list from the 2010/11 season: 1. Wayne Rooney (up 2 spots from previous season) 2. Fernando Torres (-1) 3. Steven Gerard (-1) 4. Chicharito (new entry) 5. Robin van Persie (re-entry, No. 7 in 2007/08) 6. Frank Lampard (unchanged) 7. Didier Drogba (unchanged) 8. Luis Suarez (new entry) 9. Andrei Arshavin (-4) 10. Ryan Giggs (new entry) Yes, Andrei Arshavin. How quickly things change. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/top-three-premier-league-shirts-sold-manchester-united-184345047.html Who says the fans are angry with Rooney? Who wants to pay peanut for him? Mourinho should forget about signing Rooney.
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| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:40am On Aug 05, 2013 |
chamotex: You guys should forget any marquee signing at this stage...just be content with whatever you get.I still believe one midfielder, at least, will be signed. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:30am On Aug 05, 2013 |
Reports have linked Cristiano #Ronaldo with a return to the Premier League and Manchester #United but Ronaldo says nothing has been decided. He told a press conference: "My future, I don't know. The situation still hasn’t been resolved and I don’t think now is the right time to talk about it. Perhaps we’ll be able to give more concrete news about this further down the line but now the only thing in my remit is to train and work. "I'm not going to confirm anything. At this moment I'm a player of Madrid, the future, I really don't know. Let's see what's going to happen - but for the moment, I'm good where I am." Ronaldo refused to comment on the speculation over Gareth Bale’s possible move to Real Madrid. "I'm not going to speak about that because I'm not the right person to say if he deserves that money - if it's a good deal or not. I'm happy here - I think the players I have beside me, they are great - I'm not going to speak about other players." He also ignored Jose Mourinho’s comments that “the real Ronaldo” was the Brazilian international who played for Real Madrid between 2002 and 2007. "There are some things in life that don't deserve any mention. This is one of those things and I won't comment on it for obvious reasons. I always respect my coaches and try to learn from them.” (Source: Metro, Daily Star, Red Mancunian, Daily Express, TalkSport) ....................................... United have rejected an improved £30million offer from Chelsea for striker Wayne Rooney. "A bid in the region of £30m has been made and it is our information that bid has been rejected, The question now is whether Chelsea will go back with a third bid. It looks like Chelsea want Wayne #Rooney and it looks like they want him quite badly." Sky Sports' Dharmesh Sheth (Source: Skysports) |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:48pm On Aug 03, 2013 |
Manchester United beat Real Betis 3-0 as Vidic, Ronney, Nani and Hernandez all featured in behind closed doors match at AON training complex. Injured Wayne Rooney made his return for the reds as he played 45min before being substituted.  Manchester United beat Real Betis 3-0 in the behind-closed-doors match. Goal scored by: Nani, Rooney & Vidic .............. Nani praises the exciting young talent at United: "There were a lot of goals from different players and the young lads did brilliantly on tour" |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Letter From Charly Boy To Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 4:39pm On Aug 02, 2013 |
Charley Boy is happy that the Catholic church is now evolving to meet with the vices of the modern civilization. Oh! The biggest custodian of traditional apostolic teachings is about to be 'destroyed'. What will be left of the world as truth is being systematically silenced? It looks to me the Catholic church has been hijacked. Was Pope Benedict resignation real or it was an underground coup? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Letter From Charly Boy To Pope Francis by elampiro(m): 4:07pm On Aug 02, 2013 |
Balkan: THIS IS PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I AM NOT PART OF IT. WHAT IS BAD IS BAD. THE POPE Should be proud enough to condemn evil. He is sitting on the fence.It is the holy spirit that revealed this to you. These are new age teachings, and the advocate of new world order are rallying round to give a support. I can say much more but I just want to let sleeping dogs lie. Even some Catholics now feel that much dreaded time often talked about to come, is now upon them. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:29pm On Jul 31, 2013 |
Manchester evening news rumoured that United has made a 3rd bid for Fabregas. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:10pm On Jul 31, 2013 |
Future News: Spurs to sell Gareth Bale to Real Madrid if they get €150m and Gareth Bale in return By Brooks Peck | Dirty Tackle – Tue, Jul 30, 2013 3:59 AM EDT Tottenham Hotspur chairman Daniel Levy has announced that the club will grant Gareth Bale's wish to be sold to Real Madrid if the Spanish giants give them a world-record fee of €150 million plus Gareth Bale. Levy has billed this offer as a "generous compromise" after rejecting several dizzying cash bids from Real Madrid under increasing pressure to sell his 24-year-old star. "This has been a very difficult decision," Levy told reporters while stroking a white cat. "But I've decided to relent to Gareth's wishes and the intense interest from Real Madrid by offering a very generous compromise. We will sell Gareth Bale to them if they give us €150 million and Gareth Bale in return. These are my final, non-negotiable terms. And if they send us the money and Kaka with a Gareth Bale haircut instead, I will flip out." Spurs have grown to rely heavily on Bale, who led the team with 26 goals in all competitions last season on his way to winning both the PFA Young Player of the Year and Player of the Year awards. This is something Levy has taken into consideration in concocting his offer. "I know we would be giving up a lot, but I feel that the only way to make up for the loss of a top talent like Gareth Bale would be to get a world-record fee and Gareth Bale in return. After all, it's not like we could turn around and use that money to sign another player of his caliber both in talent and commercial viability. Madrid have already made it clear that they won't sell Cristiano Ronaldo. Lionel Messi's not leaving Barcelona, nor is Neymar now that he just arrived there. Edinson Cavani's gone to PSG. Falcao to Monaco. That just leaves Gareth. But allow me to be clear: we will definitely take the money, as well." "Madrid would be crazy not to jump at this offer," Levy concluded. "It's Gareth Bale. And all they would have to give up is €150 million and Gareth Bale. That's a no brainer." It is understood that Bale, who has three years remaining on the contract extension he signed with Tottenham last summer, is very confused by this proposed offer. When Real Madrid president Florentino Perez was reached for comment, however, he paused, rubbed his chin and said, "I think that might work." http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/future-news-spurs-sell-gareth-bale-real-madrid-075933913.html Who can explain this stuff of giving Gareth Bale in return? Madrid will be insane to buy Bale at 150m euro. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 7:16am On Jul 31, 2013 |
solamaths: The greatest problem the world is facing today is religion. How I wish this menace could be wipe out from this world.I disagree. Religion is what is keeping the world in peace. If not for religion, I for one would have so many enemies because a lot of people have stepped on my toes greatly such that if I had no belief in God I would have been ruthless with them. I would have returned an eye for an eye. Infact the only thing that should concern human is God. He is the reason we are here on earth- to be tested- and to His warm embrace we shall return to. Everything else passes away swiftly. People go on a journey and never return to their families. Everything they ever labored for, all they were pursuing suddenly ends and the go give account to the one who gave them life in the first place. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:58pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
Nani : "I hope to win the league again and, for my personal wishes, I want to be at my best and score a lot of goals. Like I said, I just need to be at my best and then everything will come together." |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by elampiro(m): 7:37pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
ravgach: The Pope is a moral authority. He represents Christ or so we think. We must not find it difficult to know where he is standing at every given time. He should certainly judge as the vicar of Christ. Jesus did denounce the scribes and pharisees in His days. We cannot be dancing around a monster that is threating the very fabric of the body of Christ.Well said. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by elampiro(m): 6:55pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
livebullet: ...this one no jus understand english(sorry to say) the pope didnt say dnt preach against homosexuality as u analogizedFirstly, I want to ask you why a Pope's words would have to be reinterpreted or explained? Did we ever have to for once come out to defend Pope John Paul's comment in his 25 years reign? Secondly, you probably don't know much about Pope Francis. He is too controversial. I don't just want to go into his past comments. If he is inexperienced he should go and seek advise. Pope Benedict is still alive. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by elampiro(m): 4:46pm On Jul 30, 2013*. Modified: 6:33pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
home girl: i am a catholic and i must tell you the pope has brought shame on majority of us catholics. even in my church on sunday our preached told us to refrain from sin. so how can pope of all people encourage gay. this is so so bad.[b]My brother you are correct. The Pope's statement is like saying ''don't preach against sin'', and to consider the seriousness of the topic ''homosexuality' makes his comment too bad. If you read the way people are reacting here, you will notice that there is a shift in paradigm already. People are already more tolerant of the homosexualism or gayism. I won't be surprised if the senators take a U turn now and say people should learn to tolerate homosexuality and also learn to integrate gays and lesbians into the society. The western world are legalizing gay marriages under the excuse that they are being discriminated. Christianity is suppose to be God's voice in the world, we are meant to be the light of the world, hence there should not be compromise of our Christian/Catholic beliefs. In 2005 Pope Benedict signed a document stating clearly that people with homosexual tendencies should not be admitted into the priesthood. Pope John Paul II closed a seminary school because of reports of inappropriate behavior and pornography materials find. Now Pope Francis is tainting these beautiful hard work of his predecessors by indirectly condoning homosexuality. This is not the first time Pope Francis has made controversial statements. In 25 years reign of Pope John Paul II we never for once have to come out to defend our Pope. Why does Pope Francis give room for his comments to be re-interpreted or misinterpreted as some people claim? Is he incompetent? This is about the forth time, the others were thrashed in some Catholic forum. I wonder what his aims are. Hope we won't see a time of division in the church where only a tiny remnant will remain true Catholic? It looks like some Catholic prophecies are about to be fulfilled. [/b] |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:44pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
Papers speculation: Manchester #United have made a bid for Gareth #Bale, according to reports in Spain. Spurs also received an £85m offer for Bale from Paris St-Germain two months ago - and chairman Daniel Levy is using that to hike up the price that Real Madrid will have to pay. Marca - who have sources close to Real - report this morning: "Levy is a hard negotiator and has received more offers besides those of Real Madrid and PSG, the most significant coming from Manchester United." However, the winger's desire to play in Spain appears to favour Madrid and Tottenham are finally ready to let Bale go. (Source: Marca, Daily Star) ............. Juventus chase after Januzaj. .............. Other club news Rio #Ferdinand is supremely confident that the current Manchester #United squad does not need any bolstering. The Red Devils are still in pursuit of Barcelona ace Cesc #Fabregas but centre-back Ferdinand is of the belief that David #Moyes does not need any further strengthening as he prepares for his debut season at Old Trafford. “We're confident. If we had to go into the season with the players that we've got now I'd be more than confident and with high hopes of doing well and winning trophies,” Ferdinand said. "If the manager adds to that and chooses to add to that, then great - but it remains to be seen." United have brought in promising winger Wilfried Zaha from Crystal Palace as well as Uruguayan full-back Guillermo Varela from Penarol so far this summer. (Source: Tribal Football) #mufc #mufs .............. RVP on his facebook page: What a memorable atmosphere in the stadium yesterday. A special thank you to all my fans in Hong Kong, you were really amazing guys, I’ve never experienced something like this before. ............. Manchester United defender Chris #Smalling believes Adnan Januzaj and Jesse #Lingard can force their way into the Premier League champions' first team this season. "They have taken their chance, It’s good that the manager has given these young players a chance and they have really taken their chances. I think all of them have made a claim for the start of the season and they are all in with a good shout." #Januzaj, who has impressed on United's pre-season tour of Asia and capped his fine displays with a goal in Hong Kong, is pleased with his performances but is aiming to continue to improve. "I have done some good stuff during the tour and I hope to keep going, that is what I am going to do. I am going to work hard and try to keep doing what I am doing." (Source: goal.com) #mutour #mufs |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 3:04pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
chizel: Am disappointed at the popes stance on the gay issue eventhough am a staunch catholic and will always beGood. I am with you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 9:06am On Jul 30, 2013 |
Elsewhere some people are blaming the media. But why does Pope Francis keep using words that can be twisted so terribly?? Is he incompetent? Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Why is Pope Francis being controversial in his speech? In Pope John Paul II twenty five years reign I didn't hear of any controversial statements. He even closed a whole seminary because of reports of inappropriate behaviour and pornographic materials. I really can't understand what moral message Pope Francis is trying to pass by not directly teaching that Sodomy is evil. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorah don't forget. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:59am On Jul 30, 2013 |
dademola: bt if na rooney, u ready start world war 3 abi??If I find the time, I will search for details. When there is an argument, any of the parties can go dig out the info to buttress his points. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:51am On Jul 30, 2013*. Modified: 8:13am On Jul 30, 2013 |
SailorXY: Yet he is being offered up like garbage while the likes of Young & Bebe feel @ homeI don't know the rationale behind letting Nani go. Players like Zaha can't help us now at such matches as champions league big matches. Then Valencia is now 'clipable' and young 'predicatble'. We need Nani's tricks and dribbling skills. Zaha will fly in the EPL but there will always be that time when the going gets tough, then experience counts before skills. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:44am On Jul 30, 2013 |
Report: Crewe 0 United XI 2 Nani marked his comeback with both goals as a Manchester United XI ran out 2-0 victors at Crewe Alexandra. The Portuguese winger looked in fine shape as he joined fellow first-teamers Nemanja Vidic and Antonio Valencia in Warren Joyce's line-up. After Mathias Pogba forced the first save out of Sam Johnstone, the Reds drew first blood. Nani was fouled but dusted himself down to smash a free-kick from a central area past Alan Martin, who barely moved as it flew with unerring accuracy into the net. At the other end, Vidic made a couple of important clearances and interceptions while Valencia was involved in a move that led to Nani's neat pass releasing Scott Wootton, with the right-back hammering his shot wide. Byron Moore cracked an attempt off target as the 5,077-strong crowd, containing 952 noisy away fans, enjoyed the first-half action. Davide Petrucci tested Martin's reflexes with a stinging drive while Moore really should have scored when passing up a clear opportunity when the ball rebounded to him off Johnstone. The United keeper watched as Michael West's ambitious long-ranger clipped the bar and Wootton had to be alert to block a Jon Guthrie shot. But United always carried the greater threat and, after Nani failed to get enough power in one attempt, he ran onto a flick by Tom Lawrence to shrug off a challenge that could have resulted in a penalty, kept his balance and composure and nonchalantly steered a calm finish wide of Martin for his second of the game. Vidic was withdrawn after more than an hour and Nani followed afterwards but Valencia stayed on for the entire duration. Bebe, Nani's replacement, bounced a speculative drive at Martin and Petrucci bent a decent effort just wide. Federico Macheda then curled off target following a clever backheel by the lively Lawrence and Bebe produced the final effort as United ran out comfortable winners. United: Johnstone; Wootton, Thorpe (Grimshaw 70), Vidic (Pearson 62), Vermijl; Valencia, Lawrence (Rothwell 76), Cole, Petrucci, Nani (Bebe 65); Macheda. Subs not used: Gollini, Barmby, Wilson. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:16am On Jul 30, 2013 |
montelik: Oya now. Open play goals by Terry that were direct/indirect result of set pieces.I haven't the time yet to go search for details. I can't kill myself over a chelsea player. If u get d record open am for us. |
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