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coded guy: Am not seeing the match, but if Giggs is playing/played he is just a shameless he goat. This guy should be advising/helping on who and who to bring to fortify the midfield with his wealth of experience from the bench instead still trying to steal time on the field of play.

Who him dey try impress sef?

chrisley024: Reports from Maca Spain: Bale has agreed 6yr deal with Madrid.

We should move for CR7 if true.

yemmight: That Young should just go. English players don't impress me these days.

coogar: moyes is a plank.....
the key to winning these preseason games even when so many changes are made is to maintain a strong spine while those changes are made. when RVP went off, hernandez should have been introduced. the centre-backs, centre-midfield and the arrowhead should have been preserved!

i know it's preseason but hell, there's enough gloom in the club and moyes should be playing to win these games. i fail to see what giggs add to this squad tactically or morally. isn't he supposed to be a coach sitting alongside phil collins?

chrisley024: Our defence is a joke! Evra, Fabio n Clev are jokers! Young should be sold!

Ogbeche77: Hehheeheehe.. Late goal for yokohama, united down 3-2

BinghiNya: excellent piece, I go buy you beer for this.

montelik: I don't know who is "you guys", but show me where I complained about Moyes not giving updates. I care about actual news not daily or bi-daily updates.

RuuDie: So Rooney should now dictate to the club where he wants and does not want to play abi!!?
With the bolded, he has already indicted himself... so because playing as left-winger is too demanding, he wants to runa away from the "responsibilities" - shey you now see why Giggs was preferred in Madrid!



Big, fat lie!
Rooney playing behind Van Persie is the reason why Kagawa hardly ever starts a game for UTD. So where are the grounds for his complaints? How many matches did he start from the wing when Nani, Young, Valencia were available?



You don't get it, do you!? RVP is now the "star man" in UTD. It used to be Rooney...but not anymore! So RVP is to UTD what CR7 and LM10 are to their respective clubs.
The only frustration I see Rooney has, is the fact that RVP has, in one season kpe're, overtaken, over-shined and over-shadowed him as UTD's poster-boy!



I won't even go down this lane with you. A Mourinho that can sub and bench a player because of one mis-placed pass is not more ruthless than SAF!!? You speak from one side; what of players Mourinho has frozen out for crossing his path or not meeting up with his demands - Kaka, Quaresma, Sneijder, Van Der Vaart, Shevy, Crespo, Pizzaro, Parker... no try, the list is potentially endless!



Don't even try to twist that comment - Mourinho said CR7 was not listening to the advices/criticisms offered that could make him a better player than he already is! Here is the quote from that interview - "I had only one problem with him, very simple, very basic, which was when a coach criticizes a player from a tactical viewpoint trying to improve what in my view could have been improved. And at that moment he didn't take it very well because maybe he thinks he knows everything and the coach cannot help him to develop more"

So don't twist it to make it sound like CR7 was disobedient and not playing to his managers instructions!



I don't need your explanations. This is a very clear-cut case; clear as daylight - he has a contract with the club that doesn't include him dictating to others what he wants or prefers.
Since his agents know what is best for him, he can humbly follow their advice. Thankfully UTD is in a position where they can afford to lose Rooney and not suffer profoundly unlike in 2010 when he got that pay-rise.

montelik: what is this daily transfer update moyes is doing. talk when something concrete happens e.g when a bid is accepted or personal terms are agreed or better still wait until the deal is done.

RuuDie: Dude. Mourinho is a hundred times more "ruthless" than SAF!

In respect to whatever Mourinho said about CR7 - can you compare it to the magnitude of this Rooney saga!? Did Mourinho ever hint that CR7 disobeyed him or refuse to play to instruction or at a position Mourinho assigned him to!?
Look at the bolded portion, CR7 wasn't "improving his game as well as the manager thought he could" but yet what he was offering to his team was satisfactory enough.
The same Mourinho relegated Casillas to the bench abi, why!? Because his form had dipped (according to Mourinho). Casillas means more to Spain as a nation than Rooney does to you...in fact Casillas is something of "god" in Madrid but he was dropped and the whole world didn't come clattering down.

From all indications, Rooney is not happy to play second fiddle to anybody but he has, all of a sudden, failed to realise that he has to earn that right to be the "top-dog"!

Why was he our "main man" before? Because he worked hard, played very well and earned it! Last season, he was not at the top of his game, hence he was left out sometimes. If he wants to be the "main man" in UTD again, surely he knows what to do.

Small competition from RvP and he is already quivering...so what if CR7 comes back to UTD nkor?

RuuDie: Fine, lets go with your "speculation" then.

Now, let me ask - if Rooney was playing under a Mourinho for instance; would he have the liver to oppose him (Mourinho) if he (Rooney) was asked to play in another position other than that which he (Rooney) favors!?

coogar: ronaldo and messi have scored nearly against every team they have come against. don't even go there.



in your own words, rooney had 4 passes per match and van persie had 6 passes per match. can 4 be more than 6? lololol



key pass is even a truer statistic than assist. a beautiful pass can still be wasted by the player tasked to score from the pass. this is why statisticians are now counting key pass = chance created.

RuuDie: ELAMPIRO, COOGAR.

Can we just revert back to the "original" argument?

Now, I ask again - what is Rooney's problem? What does he want? What is he demanding for?

coogar: roma is not a big team - how many champions league titles have they won in europe to qualify them as a big team. should we count otelu galati and glasgow rangers as big teams too?



this is quack mathematics - the rate at which RVP delivers a forward pass is 26 per 100 passes, rooney's rate is at 22 per 100 passes. if RVP has been moved around the pitch like rooney was, he would deliver more forward passes than rooney at his rate of accurate pass per total number of passes. where did you learn your mathematics, boy?



one is a hyena? lolololol the above becomes a lie when opta concluded both rooney/RVP made 1.8 key passes per game last season.

i would get a more detailed stat when i am chanced....



he played as a supporting striker in most of the games. there's no excuse not to score from that position behind a striker especially when RVP also likes to look for the ball and make forward passes.

coogar: how did you come up with this useless calculation? explain it, don't just throw conjectures in the air.



so the diagram i showed last night with rooney occupying 4 different positions in the centre of the pitch does not count for you. are you saying rooney would be marked in the same degree at the centre of the pitch like van persie does in the opponent's box?



because if he receives the ball with the back to goal, he would have to pass back, make a run inside. RVP is a quintessential striker, the trick is to draw his marker out of position.




so van persie with the task to shoot on target is still expected to have more sideways passes than rooney who played in the midfield? this is simple logic, na.




that's only 7 goals out of the 27 goals you quoted - what about the other 75% of his goals? who did he score them against? lolololol

coogar: you have to look at it in percentages - actual number has never revealed any truth. fact remains RVP who largely operates in a zone more heavily marked attempted more forward passes than rooney that played mostly in a zone less-heavily marked.

RVP had 26% forward pass, rooney had 22% forward pass.



oh lord - this guy puts the I in ignorance....xavi outpassed busquets, thiago and iniesta and cesc. don't just throw conjectures out there. the stats about rooney scoring more goals in the KO stage is also a meaningless stat if we don't look at the calibre of teams he did it against in comparison with the others - this is why OPTA is only concerned with the league. every team gets to play the same opponent 38 times.......

coogar: what could you have been referring to? you wanted us to believe 22% forward pass is more than 26% forward pass.



show me where i made it look or insinuated rooney has scored 20 premier league penalties. you keep lying even after being found out and you still try to bring up reckless accusations. who are you trying to fool?

coogar: i am insulting you because you called me a confusionist/liar when i told you rooney has scored 20 goals via penalties for man utd. refer back to the previous pages and see your disgraceful comments.....if you cannot take it, don't dish it out....

it turned out i was right after all.....
when you are not sure of your sources, at least keep quiet and verify manually instead of looking for dodgy sites with inaccurate statistics!

coogar: these are the 2 comments from the same fool - earlier you claimed rooney has 17 in all competitions and now you have suddenly changed mouth that he's got 20 in all competitions.....

you are a disgrace - get the fück out of here, you fool!

coogar: cheiiiii, you are a troglodyte....
you should give up commenting about football and man utd in general cos you disgrace this club with your lies and false claims. are you a troll, for fücks sake?



you are a consummate rëtard if you think rooney has only scored 3 goals via penalty in all other competitions outside the premier league. you are a disgrace to the red shirt if you really think rooney has not scored more than 3 goals via penalties in the FA cup, champions league, europa cup, etc...

on the top of my head......
rooney scored a penalty against glasgow rangers in scotland in 2010 in the champions league. rooney scored 2 goals via penalties against otelul galati in 2011 champions league.

rooney scored a goal via penalty against athletic bilbao in europa cup in 2012. rooney scored a penalty against man city in the fa cup tie at the etihad when united won 3-2 in january 2012.

finally, rooney scored another goal via penalty against braga in the champions league in 2012. the match ended 3-1 to man utd.

that's 6 penalties scored in all competitions outside the premier league. my math tells me if you add 6 to the 13/14 penalties scored in the premier league, the answer is not 17 like you foolishly claimed.

elampiro, you disgrace man utd on this thread.....