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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:26pm On Jul 29, 2013
Nemanja Vidic played 62 mins in Uniteds 2-0 win against Crewe tonight. Antonio Valencia also played, and Luis Nani scored both goals.

Watch Nani score his 2nd goal here: http:///iW5jBCFhzl
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 10:17pm On Jul 29, 2013
peppy luv: undecided sori I can't learn 4rm 1 who can't speak or write well wink
And you want to think you can write or speak better than I?

You presumption is so wrong. The problem with nairaland posters is that they want to assume they know much about the other person. First, you are not even more Catholic than I. So, if it has to do with defending the Catholic church, I am up there. But some things have been prophesied to happen and nothing will stop them. I just rest my case here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 9:45pm On Jul 29, 2013
peppy luv: undecided have u skipped ur medications agan?
You are there and you won't asked to know or gained knowledge. Why is it that since Pope Francis took over it has been from one controversial gesture to another and from on controversial statement to the other? Or are you not observant? [b][/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 9:07pm On Jul 29, 2013
peppy luv: WE CAN NEVER DISIntEGRATE OR BE LIKE THE ANGLICANS...... PR0UDLY CATHOLIC FOR LIFE
Are you conversant with Catholic end time prophecies? There are prophecies as regard 'the last Pope' while some strong others in respect of 'a time of two Popes'. I don't really feel I should go into details here, but if you want to know much more, you can indicate.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:18pm On Jul 29, 2013
Nani could be set to leave Manchester ‪#‎United‬ after Monaco's sporting director revealed that the winger has been offered to them.

last week Monaco boss Claudio Ranieri denied he was interested in ‪#‎Nani‬, though insisted he could yet make more additions to his squad before the transfer window closes.

However Monaco sporting director Vadim Vasilyev refused to rule out making a move for Nani.

"He has been proposed to us. He is a very good player, but there have been no talks so far. We have already changed our group quite a bit and we also want to offer opportunities to our young players. We still have time to make a few alterations before the end of the transfer window, if needed." (Source: L'Equipe, ESPN) ‪
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Here a good news

First-team stars Nemanja Vidic, Antonio Valencia and Nani will step up their return to action by featuring in the pre-season friendly against Crewe Alexandra tonight. The kick off is at 19.30 UK.

United under 21 team : Johnstone, Gollini; Grimshaw, Wootton, Vidic, Vermijl, Thorpe; Pearson, Rothwell, Cole, Valencia, Petrucci, Nani; Bebe, Lawrence, Wilson, Macheda.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 6:40pm On Jul 29, 2013
decepticos: i wanted to say something b4 I forgot
Lol. The best post so far!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:55pm On Jul 29, 2013
I missed almost the whole of second half.

Kitchee 2 United 5

The Reds signed off from the first leg of Tour 2013 presented by Aon with a highly entertaining 5-2 victory over Kitchee at the Hong Kong Stadium on Monday.

In front of a sell-out crowd, goals from Danny Welbeck, Chris Smalling, Fabio and substitutes Adnan Januzaj and Jesse Lingard sealed the win, although the Reds were well tested by the Hong Kong side, particularly after the break.

The pitch had taken something of a beating in the days leading up to the game following a prolonged period of torrential rain in the city and the staging of four Barclays Asia Trophy matches involving Sunderland, Manchester City, Tottenham and South China. Much of the centre of the pitch was covered in sand, while both goal-mouths began cutting up from the first minute.

For his final line-up on this leg of the tour, David Moyes opted to pair Chris Smalling and Michael Keane in the centre of defence, with Fabio and Patrice Evra on either flank. In front of them lay a three-man midfield of Tom Cleverley, Anderson and Michael Carrick with Wilfried Zaha and Ashley Young supporting lone-striker Danny Welbeck on each wing.

Much of United’s early penetration came down the right where the lively Zaha once again impressed. It took the Reds until the 15th-minute to carve out the first real sight of goal with Anderson striking a 20-yard effort just wide, but 60 seconds later David Moyes’ side were ahead. Carrick’s lovely pass over the top found Young down the left and after the winger’s deflected effort had crashed against the goalkeeper’s right-hand post, Welbeck was on hand to lash the rebound home from close-range.

Zaha should have doubled the advantage three minutes later when he was found by Welbeck’s pin-point right-wing cross. But after doing the hard work of bringing the ball down and turning the defender, the 20-year-old blasted over from eight yards.

A frantic few minutes followed thereafter with Kitchee’s Juan Belencoso firing over the bar at the other end and Young, after being picked out by Evra, seeing his close-range effort blocked when a goal looked the only outcome. A second strike for United did indeed follow a minute later.

After a United corner had initially been cleared, Young found Cleverley on the right and his whipped cross was met by Smalling who hung brilliantly in the air and guided a header past Wang in the Kitchee goal despite the keeper getting a hand to it.

On 26 minutes the Reds made it three with a goal of the highest quality. And Zaha was involved once more. After receiving the ball on the right, the winger flicked a sublime pass with the outside of his right boot into the box to the onrushing Fabio who followed suit with an identical finish past Wang.

Welbeck and Smalling went close to a second apiece on the half hour-mark, but it remained 3-0 up until the break. Moyes made three changes at the start of the second period with Alexander Büttner, Jesse Lingard and Adnan Januzaj replacing Evra, Young and Welbeck respectively.

Having caught the eye already during pre-season, Januzaj took just five minutes to do so again, this time with his first ever senior goal. Büttner scampered down the left before chipping the ball up to Januzaj who expertly directed a header past Wang.

Kitchee didn’t let the early second-half setback derail them and they got themselves on the scoresheet on 58 minutes thanks to a sublime strike by Lam. Having collected possession in United’s half he twisted and turned before letting fly with a 20-yard belter into the top corner past the helpless Ben Amos.

Januzaj twice went close to netting his second of the game with two efforts well saved by Wang. Kitchee, meanwhile, buoyed by Lam’s upped the tempo in attack and on 68 minutes United’s earlier four-goal lead was halved thanks to Alex Alkande’s superb run and finish.

The quality goals kept on coming with Lingard cementing his place as the team’s top scorer for this leg of the tour 10 minutes from time with a superb curling effort from the edge of the area.

It was the perfect way to sign off United’s stay in Asia and gives manager David Moyes yet more food for thought as the start of the season edges ever closer.

Teams

United: Amos; Fabio (Rafael 72), Smalling, M Keane, Evra (Büttner 46); Zaha (van Persie 81), Carrick (Jones 72), Cleverley, Anderson, Young (Lingard 46); Welbeck (Januzaj 46).

Kitchee: Wang (Guo 89); Tsang (Cheung 62), Comi (Tsang 83), Rehman, Rodriguez; Alex (To 81), Huang, W.Lam (Chan 69), Chu (M.Lam 31 (Gao 87)), Annan (Xu 52); Belencoso (Paramo 73).

MUFC official website.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:20pm On Jul 29, 2013
This Zaha is truly a magician. Januzaj is also an intelligent player.

I am going out o. I don cut off from the match.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:12pm On Jul 29, 2013
Lingard for Young
Butner for Evra
Januzaj for Welbeck

Second half stats.

Januzaj scores a header from Butner pull out in 48mins.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:53pm On Jul 29, 2013
Half Time

Kitchee 0 Man United 3.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:32pm On Jul 29, 2013
Fabio scores from open play in 25 mins. Zaha gave him an intelligent pass from the corner kick area into the 18 box. First time shot from Fabio and it's 3-0.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:28pm On Jul 29, 2013
montelik: fine show me the last time terry scored that wasn't the direct or indirect result of a set piece..
We will take a look at Terry's 50 goal later.

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Welbeck scores. Carrick long pass find Young whose first time volley hit the upright, Welbeck first time shot from the rebound was accurate- a goal in the 15.

Zaha missed a clear chances after he had done his magic well from Welbeck telling pass.

Smalling scores a header from open play. 2-0 in 22 mins. The goal is from Cleverly's cross.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:01pm On Jul 29, 2013
No Vidic.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:48pm On Jul 29, 2013
United XI vs Kitchee FC: Amos, Evra, Anderson, Carrick, Smalling, Young, Welbeck, Fabio, Cleverley, Keane Zaha.

I don't know if I will be chanced to watch this live. Smalling will be tested today.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:53am On Jul 29, 2013
chrisley024: David Moyes is confident Manchester United will be among the honours even if they fail to land their transfer targets.
shocked
If anything, I like his confidence. Self believe is important. Unlike Macini who felt he needed to have spent another £100m last season to retain the title. He wanted RVP, Cavani, and a host of others on top of his recent heavy spendings.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:05am On Jul 29, 2013
@Montelik, Terry scores from open play.

Ferdinand goal was from a corner kick.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57am On Jul 29, 2013
@RuuDie, I dislike that shadow marking with a passion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:50am On Jul 29, 2013
RuuDie: Pique forages forward than most defenders, yes...but most times, the goals they get (Pique, Terry etc) comes from having moved up during a set-piece situation, no different from Rio and Vida, they just tend to score more thats all.




Make that Welbeck, Young and Valencia!
Pique and Terry at least have goals from open play but when last did Vidic and Ferdinand score from open play. They don't even venture out of their territory.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:47am On Jul 29, 2013
SailorXY: I have observed you guys omit Evans when talking about Man Utd defenders cheesy on current standing, Evans will get into the team as third choice at worst
@Elampiro, I don see say you dey in love with Neymar grin but to me the boy never do nada wey I consider extra ordinary. These media guys sef SMH.
Although I think we should play more with the younger central defenders in our team, the fluidity & motion they bring to the table is unrivaled. Rio & Vidic can be beasts sha when they hit top shape, but I think playing just one @ a time will be better than both of them as partners!
1. Evans is good but he is looks best to complement another than he being the commando. Play Evans with with Vidic or Ferdinand he appears to be the one under while the other commands the back. Play him with Jones, he is the same. But he is very good, fast and read the game well.

2. If after confederation cup you still think Neymar is a media hype, it shows you are biased. What he did in the Confederation cup was enough to earn somweone world best player if it were to be a world cup. The most interesting was how he made Spain defenders to look ordinary, he was just beating them head on. He got Pique sent off after. He dribbled him and was going to run at the goalkeeper. That was not even the first time he was brought down after he useless the last man or beating two in a row. And his goals were all spectacular.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
coogar: our defenders don't sit with the goalie....rio/vidic drift up the pitch to the centre-circle. it's the fault of the front six that has the fault. if the keeper is rolling the ball to a defender to start an attacker, every player of ours in the front six should be pressing them to force elementary mistakes. we don't do that at all.....sometimes, you can fit a titanic in the gap we leave unmarked in the middle of our half.
No I disagree. This is how Rio and Vidic play.

1. While with the ball and needing to start a building forward, they move forward a bit while passing the ball left and right and even back to the keeper. Then they release it.

2. When our strikers are with the ball, they stay around 35 to 40 yeards from our goalkeeper.

3. When our forward loses possession, then start moving backward close to the goalkeeper even before the ball gets to them.

In comparison with other defenders:

1. Jones and Smalling release the ball faster into the attacking area. Sometimes these young guys even drive the ball personally into the final third, particularly Jones. When United attack, they stay around the 35 to half way area from the goalkeeper. When United loses the ball and we are coming under threat, they deal with threat first in the middle area before chasing backwards if there is a need. This allows the midfield players to easily join them in the middle in battling to disposes the opponents. You will also notice that Terry, Pique, etc score from open play whereas Vidic and Ferdinand only score from corner kicks. From open play even Jones have attempts whereas same can't be said of Vidic and Ferdinand.

Not that our forward don't mark actually, they do, but the problem is that our midfielders can't really stop opponents and I also will pass some blame to the defenders for playing deep. I do see all our forwards always chasing backwards even if they don't do it as much as Barca. Welbeck and Young are easily the best in that aspect of retracking backward. No striker chases back in the EPL as much as Welbeck.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: it's nothing to do with the defence. if the front 6 have pressed en masse, the ball wouldn't get into our defence. barca hunt in packs like wolves. even when one or two players do it in united, the others don't back them up thus rendering the press abortive.
If the defence is too far backward from the attack, that will leave too much to be chased. Don't you think so? Pique, Mascherano, and co don't seat with the goalkeeper. You can't even outpace them. Neyman is the first man I saw running past them with ease.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Jul 28, 2013
dademola: dts y i used d adjective "energetic", bro. Looking for a stereotype "destroyer" in d mould of makelele?? In 2013?? No joor!! I'd rada go for an energetic playa who can press very well, wen we lose possession, rada dan sign a CB as a midfielda, all in d name of destroying! If we can jez hav d equivalent of d bastian/martinez combo at bayern, we r okay jare. I'm not totally against getting a destroyer(we might need him in sme very tricky away games, anyways), bt i still feel a fabregas or modric is wot we need urgently. A jones/ carrick/ fabregas or modric in such games wldnt be a bad idea though.
I think Song and Edgar Davis are a better example than Makele in the kind of player I am looking at. Don't forget, Hargreaves was tough and rugged. He was not beatable. You either drive the ball to the side or pass it. Then he used the ball well when he got it. We don't have such now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:33pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: united have the laziest players in the premier league. they basically leave everything to the defence thinking vidic would always be there or de gea would pull a magical save.

we don't defend until the ball crosses into our half of the pitch. in most of the other teams, pedro of barca would run the centre-halves down and force them to punt it long and ultimately disrupts the transition. at united, rooney and others turn their backs and allow the opponents to transit the ball into our half without any pressing.
I don't agree with you completely. Barca players are the best markers that I already know. I always say it when they play, they lose the ball the chase hard immediately. But United problem is not just limited to that area. United major problem in defending is our back. Our forward chase but not hard enough. All the matches we have had Jones, Smalling, Evra and Raphael in defence have all been different. They don't go seat with the goalkeeper. The FA cup against Fulham last season was an example of such. These young guys play high and when you beat them, the chase you and close down on you before you get into shooting position. It is all so better when they also have Cleverly and Anderson playing with them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:14pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: those type of players tend to have a bad reputation with match officials and they are red card magnets. interception is better than tackling. matter of fact, if every player in the team presses like barca did under guardiola, you don't even need 4 defenders at the back.
One of our major problems in the last two years and which has continued in this preseason is the fact that it is hard to take the ball off our opponent in our half. We allow opponents to use the ball so much in our area to torment us, as we saw Chelsea and Man City did to us last season. Totteham also did such to us, teams were running us from left to right and cutting into us even from the middle with eas while going virtually unchallenged. What do you think will be the solution to this? We are going to lose the ball at times, so we need hard markers too. Ferdinand and Vidic pushing the defence to seat with the goalkeeper (defending deep) is also not helping matters.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:01pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: song is useless as a destroyer. the era of having a destroyer is well and truly gone. we just need 2 good central midfielders that can defend, pass and maraud forward. none of keane/scholes was a destroyer. they take turns to damage the opposition at will.
I don't think that era is truly gone. It is just that some kind of players are hard to find. Edgar Davis, Makalele, Thompson Oliha, etc. Kean was also tough and clever, so he had bit of the characteristics. Diara is a bit of a destroyer but he is limited once he gained the ball. Also Tiote.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On Jul 28, 2013
dademola: i'd rada go for a vibrant and energetic playa who can pass d ball, and mk things happen. D scholes/carrick combo in 08 was arguably d best in europe, and i cant identify a "destroyer" amongst d duo. Agreed dt, overall, dt team was solid, bt believe me, dt partnership was key.
Scholes and Carrick had Hargreaves and Anderson who assisted them in midfield battle in big matches. Flectcher who runs the highest km/hr in a match was also there. It is unfortunate that Anderson is not playing the same way he started.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:37pm On Jul 28, 2013
dademola: so divuldging supposedly confidential transfer info,is d solution abi?? Maybe u'd understand it berra wen we bid 100m for fab, and he and barca still reject us.
I wasn't defending them. Only stating the possible reason behind their action. New management new style.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:33pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: i really hope the deal does not go through. what kind of a joke have we become? if a girl says no twice, shouldn't a boy just leave her alone and find another girl? if this is not stalking, i dunno what else to call it.

cesc has reiterated he doesn't want to come to united as he's happy in spain. barcelona have said they will not let him leave and moyes is embarrassing the man utd brand going back there with the 3rd bid. are we this desperate?
There is an area which is even not being addressed at all. A DM who can destroy and also can pass well. Jones can destroy but he doesn't use the ball whell after he has won it. In the early years I thought Anderson will metamorphosed into a destroyer and distributor like Song. But instead his best position now is playing in front of three man midfield, and that's where it looks like Fabregas will play should he come. We need to get one good tackler who will provide an option for Carrick or Cleverly or even displace one of them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
dademola: Dunno y moyes is going public with d details of dis deal. Is dis wot d new era at united will be like?? Smh..
So that at the end of the day if they are unable to land a big player, the fans and players won't accuse them of being unambitious.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:07pm On Jul 28, 2013
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
My description of Zaha's game.

We have seen how Chalton, Ferdinand and Young have all commended Zaha. Below is how I rate his game so far.

1. He can run with the ball with good balance.
2. He can play from both sides of the field- left and right wing- as well as through the middle.
3. His movement is not easily predictable. The way he is able to switch his play from forward run to right or left is what makes him hard to mark. Zaha runs straight at defenders while dribbling them in the process, but he also can move into the middle suddenly when he discovers he is running into difficulty. This is the number one advantage he has over Nani and Valencia. He gives no sign that he wants to dashed sharply inside the field or even make a U turn.
4. He shoots. Although he is yet to score from his shots, the good things is that he doesn't balloon his shots and only shoot narrowly wild. Most of his shots are what I used to call 'carpet shots'.
5. Despite the above, Zaha is a team player and not unnecessarily burying his head or keeping the ball for too long in the flank. A straight advantage he has over Nani.
6. Zaha is like Welbeck in trying to immediately destabilise his opponent once he has lost the ball.

7. His weakness is that he will need time to perfect some of his magic moves, particularly when he faces premier league defenders.
8. I have not been able to asses his crosses and his ability to shoot with his left foot. He however does his magic with both feet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:41pm On Jul 28, 2013
coogar: https://www.barriesview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/201213-goalkeeper-stats.png
The Stoke goalkeeper, Asmir Begovic was excellent in dealing with crosses. He went out and picked 86 crosses and missed none. That was so wonderful.

The Aston Villa keeper also did well, although he missed 5 out of 97. But I just love keepers who come out to pick crosses. Foster also did well in that area, 62/2 and Tim Howard.

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