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superstar1: Kagawa will be plating as 10 in front of carrick. While I expect Welbeck to join the midfield while defending.
Vidic is not back to his top form yet, that is while I picked Ferdinand

This is confusing...

dademola: jones over ferdinand?? Lailai!! I'd pick evans over jones sef anyday!!

Which matches are you using to judge? Don't say last season o.

Jabuzaj can play in the wing, he is only too fragile for now.

afrodoc: that midfield is defensively too weak, would struggle to win back possession and the team would leak goals like anything.
kagawa can't play as carrick's CM partner

Well said.

Then, I will pick Jones over Ferdinand. Vidic will also do better than Ferdinand despite he (Vidic) missing out of preseason.

afrodoc: accepted that young is the fittest of the 3 FOR NOW however if all 3 are fit later in d season I would give d edge to nani.
Young just doesn't take on the full back enough. whenever he is on d left flank he just cuts d ball back onto his right foot and plays an in Player that is nodded away by d defence 90 % of the time. maybe that's y moyes tried on d right flank in preseason.
As for Valencia years ago I was arguing with peeps on this forum that his utter inability to use his left leg to do more than just stand will limit his play at United. a player can hide his limitations in a backwater like Wigan but in the limelight of places like Manchester United opponents will study u and exploit ur weaknesses

We are saying the same thing. We should look at how we should start the season for now. Much later, the performance of each player will speak for them.

dademola: kagawa doesnt nid skill, energy and force to succeed jare. He isnt, and will neva be d hustle-and -bustle type of playa. His best role is behind d main striker; where he can orchestrate things as he likes. Playing him on d wing, or in CMF isnt helping!! Look at david silva. Playas like this cld be very important in d UCL, where possession retention is key, especially at home. D only ish is dt, for such playas to thrive,dia teams must hav a very strong CMF !! At bvb, he also showed he can score goals too. I just feel he shud visit d gym more often( he is way too fragile).

Hmm, you spoke well. But he was offered that position in this preseason and he didn't fly. He also missed some glaring chances.

But gym might help him. Welbeck used to be fragile too.

afrodoc: who said I was talking about past glory? is it young or Valencia that have current form? I said a FIT nani. i didn't say nani of 5yrs ago or 3 yrs ago or nani's grandfather. if nani is physically fit today I will take him ahead of young or valencia

From the preseason games, Young is the fittest among the three. Our first four matches are tough, so we need those senior player that went to preseason to start the league. We can later integrate others into the team. It's a big work really and I pray Moyes gets it right. Young was poor in his first match but he later raised his game.

afrodoc: I can vouch for a FIT nani offering more in terms of attacking threat than either young or valencia

Always look at current form and not past glory.

At this point, Moyes should ask Rooney for the last time, if he wants to go he should be sold to Arsenal not Chelsea.

The job at hand is too enormous for any distractions. Let the young boys motivate themselves. They can rely of RVP and Carrick as their leaders. Should Nani and Valencia pick form it becomes a bonus. Moyes should just buy any good midfield player, then we see how it goes.

Although I will want Rooney to stay and I pray so.

[quote author=A-40]What did you guys do to Kagawa?? Smh why didn't he just stay in Dortmund jeje[/quote]I am yet to be convinced about this Kagawa. Xailor is so sure this guy will be great, but to me he doesn't even show sign. JS Park was a better player. United needed to keep the brand promotion in Asia. Look at what Hazard is doing in Chelsea.

Anyway, I will get to see him more when league starts. He is skillful, but lacking energy, speed and force.

afrodoc: from what we are seeing Zaha might be part of the strongest 11. I don't see "one way" Valencia or "cutback and inswinger" Young getting regular playing time ahead of him.if we have those guys as subs we can hope for zaha and a fit Nani to start

Can you really vouch for Nani now? Young might be the preferred..

afrodoc: most comments here are not about the match in isolation but in the context of the whole preseason.
there hasn't been any convincing 90minutes of play put together and several players are not showing the quality we expect from them. added to this are d comical and so far failed attempts to improve our papier mache midfield.

Of all the preseason matches, our worst have been the ones Anderson and Cleverly started together in the midfield. About three or four of them.


Anderson and Cleverly started in the midfield in all the three matches we have lost.

I have watched all the preseason matches, sometimes I repeated the matches two more times. For the benefit of this thread let people be objective. Anderson and Cleverly combination is not working without Carrick playing. That is very obvious.

Yokohama 3 United 2

Team: De Gea, Fabio, Jones, Evans, Evra, Anderson, Cleverley, Lingard, Zaha, Januzaj, van Persie.
Subs: Amos, Rafael, Smalling, Buttner, Keane, Giggs, Young, Kagawa, Welbeck.
.......

That was a strong team. In all the three times these two guys have played our midfield we failed woefully.

afrodoc: De Gea

Rafael Vidic Evans Evra

Carrick____Anderson
Zaha_________________Kagawa
_________Januzaj
______RVP

preferred line up against Wigan. Smalling,Jones,Cleverly,Nani,Welbeck and Rooney on the bench

Remove Januzaj, put Welbeck.

dademola: aha!! Wetin happen again?? I tot u once sed cleverley can be like xavi??

Based on current form.

SailorXY: From report I read Buttner did very well. If this is true, energy & cash shoukd not be expended chasing a left back at all

In my opinion he is not organize. He should also learn to defend first before venturing forward. His pullout can be better too.

I think Zaha will bench Valencia. I have to watch Nani again. At every time with ball, Zaha has about three options. He doesn't get locked in.

Carrick is such a good player for us.

montelik: We haven't looked convincing this preseason. I wouldn't normally be concerned but the start to our EPL defence is pretty tough. We need to put on a solid showing against Wigan and I expect Moyes to put our strongest possible line-up

DDG
Rafa--Evans--Vida--Evra

---------Carrick-------
-----Tom C------Ando---
---------Kagawa--------

Welbz-----RVP

Lets go with a diamond for now. If Rooney is fit, he can take Danny's place and partner RVP.

Remove Cleverly, put Jones. Kagawa has not really impressed. Although we might count on his experience.

Bench from these players= Nani, Young, Fabio, Zaha, Cleverly, smalling, Januzaj, goalkeeper.

SailorXY: Hehehe Giggs still on the matter

Failure to bring in good players and failure of the young guys to rise to the occasion. We may need to recall Scholes and a certain Larson to help by January.

The future is bright, but nothing like experience. These babies can't go far in UCL. The spate at which the ball is taken off then is too much.

Wing- zaha + ?
Midfield - Carrick + ?
Defence- jones and Vidic. Smalling on standby

1-3.

Now I am watching Manchester United.

Zaha is such a magician. Carrick is so intelligent, he and Giggs brought some stability. Januuzaj is magnificent.


Ferdi out for Evans.

Purist: Januzaj has been very good as well. If you ask me, I think that boy should be a regular starter for United already.

He wasn't so good in the 1st half, although he wasn't poor either.

Purist: Cleverly substituted. I guess it's fair to say that Anderson-Cleverley 2 man midfield finally failed today. And woefully too.

Failed for the 3rd time this preseason.

Hope Scholes won't be recalled?

Valencia scores from Januzaj wonderful effort.1- 2

Zaha in for Valencia. Giggs in for Kagawa, Carrick in for Anderson.

SailorXY: Hmm what is the performance of our midfield like?? Clev Ando, Januzaj & Kagawa?
Who dey watch the game live here?

Anderson and Cleverly in the midfield 1st half. They were poor. Anderson tried his usual drives but he was always checked eventually. Kagawa, I can't say jor. You need to watch yourself.

Fabio was our best 1st half.

2nd half- Cleverly and Herequez (is dat d spelling?) out Jones and Lingaard in.

I can't define the kind of football we are playing.

School boys football.


We were lucky..... Should have been 3-0.

Mehn 2-0

Well dominated by Sevilla.

Sevilla scores.

dademola: well, i dnt nid to argue with u; everyone knws u hate RVP soo much ever since he became our main man @ d expense of ur rooney who has now been relegated to play for d reserves

I don't dislike any of our players, not to talk of hate.

You were too wrong in ur assumption we should have finished 5th. If you had said 2nd, may be.

[quote author=Mr_TA]Has our bid for Leo Messi been accepted yet? [/quote]Yes, Messi and Neymar will be unveiled in the Rio's testimonial. Breaking!!!

dademola: okay oo. Maybe u've forgotten dt d "fergie time" we usually enjoy in matches where d opponent is in a vantage position, is OVER!! And frm d way i see it, some questionable calls and decisions dt go our way in matches, will also come to an end!! If not for RVP last season, maybe na 5th position we for carry. Everyone has identified d MF as our major weakness, and if we dnt fortify now, i just dnt see us getting away with it like we've been doing over d past few yrs

Did you just say Man United could have finished 5th without RVP? I beg don't say that again. What!!!

Can you tell me when last United finished 3rd?
Can you tell our position before RVP arrived? Was there a change in the team?
Do you know the time he wasn't scoring, others rose to the occasion.


If he didn't come, Chicharito would have been playing his position and still end with a descent goals tally.

She has a point, but it also look like her indecency films are not selling well. She might be getting broke. Who wants to look at a fat woman's body. On the other hand, BBA concept is not about sex, although some of the housemates might fall into sex out of weakness. You can't catch the sex scenes on the live show, it is usually censored. You have to subscribed to the VIP section of the BBA internet website before you can watch the indecency scenes. So at the end you can scrutinize what you want. You can watch BBA for a whole month without getting to see sex, except you are really determine and desperate to see those scenes.

She is also wrong by saying people subscribe to DSTV to watch BBA. It is only one of dozens of channels you get on BBA when you subscribe. So the only point she has is that Nigerians should be less hypocrites. Yes, we should try and live what we preach, we criticize so much the things we are guilty of. Therefore, we should let repentance start from ourselves.