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coogar: abeg, comparing elampiro to me is not endearing. elampiro is a fantasist. we were all here when he said chicharito was poor this season even when records show chicharito copped less than 900 mins on the pitch. elampiro is not a united fan - he's fake!

StarBoard: elampiro posts just to increase his post count.
elampiro started following United in 2010.

StarBoard: oga, give us at least one valid link to substantiate your claim about Giggs.
You think this is the newspaper stand where you can throw about any information and nobody will challenge it?
There are enlightened minds here.
One link please.

StarBoard: You're a muppet.
Where else would he be king?
The Emirates? Stamford Bridge?Anfield?White Hart Lane?
Since you are in charge of details, kindly enlighten me, or shut the hell up if you don't have anything to say.

coogar: elampiro is a troll!
he argues backwards without any deductive reasoning. he does not care the number of minutes a striker had spent because strikers who play have more drought than those who sit on the bench.

elampiro expects a striker that played one league match to score more goals/assists than another striker that played full 90 mins in 30 games. at least, 1025 knows he trolls but the biggest peeve of mine are ignoramuses who can't even see their own ignorance!

coogar: ronaldo was 18 when he came here, operated basically as a winger for 4 seasons. it wasn't until 2007/8 that he played as a wing forward. so using his stats in the early days to support your argument suggests i am right about your mental development.



buttner and evra are defenders. they have no business scoring goals. rooney and berba are forwards so compare like for like and stop dragging your name in the mud.

a player who plays more would have a period of drought? in contrast to one who sits on the bench without a chance of either scoring or assisting? apologies for overestimating your intelligence quotient! you are not mentally fit enough to engage me in a debate!

coogar: ronaldo was 18 when he came here, operated basically as a winger for 4 seasons. it wasn't until 2007/8 that he played as a wing forward. so using his stats in the early days to support your argument suggests i am right about your mental development.



buttner and evra are defenders. they have no business scoring goals. rooney and berba are forwards so compare like for like and stop dragging your name in the mud.

a player who plays more would have a period of drought? in contrast to one who sits on the bench without a chance of either scoring or assisting? apologies for overestimating your intelligence quotient! you are not mentally fit enough to engage me in a debate!

StarBoard: I did not manufacture the above.
You seriously risk your credibility with verbal about-turns like these.
I shudder to think that you view yourself as some kind of pundit with your half-baked untruths and conjectures.
You said Giggs was awarded the best player ever in the EPL.
Kindly provide me with the evidence,given that I might have been out of my senses when that "award"was given.

Seriously this elampiro guy is 1025 pretending to be a United fan. Yarning opaks left,right and center

coogar: you are a tool......
showing us the award of the best player in the premier league era is different from the best player in man utd in the premier league era. are you an illiterate?

giggs is not a king at man utd, maybe in your village!

coogar: your logic is a disgrace!



you are plumbing new depths of idiocy
rooney had 10,036 mins of football between 08/09 and 11/12 and berbatov had just 7,369 min. rooney had 2,667 more minutes than berbatov to generate his stats - 2667 mins is more than 29 league games - i repeat 29 more league games than berbatov!



this is the exact reason i said your 3 year-old brother has more intelligence than you do. so a difference of 29 league games should not be discounted when measuring performance levels of 2 different strikers? no wonder your pedigree as a united supporter is on facebook - a haven of serial wänkers and plebs like yourself.



no one cares about your itinerary - you can go chill with a monkey for all i care - berbatov beats rooney on every statistics available! rooney's 26 assists in 10,000 mins and berba's 20 assists in 7000 mins - only a lunatic would say rooney is better, a raving lunatic if i may add.

StarBoard: elampiro,
You're starting to sound like an annoying attention seeker.
For real.
If you think Giggs is truly the King,then you need help.

coogar: elampiro does not know how to argue - blogging must be a new experience to him. who dares compare berbatov to rooney stats-wise?

then he goes with king rooney - rooney that was booed when he received his medal, he was booed again in the open-bus trophy parade. djemba-djemba is more loved at united than rooney....




this boy is a dullard - rooney had almost 3000 more minutes to get 6 extra assists. rooney gets the set-plays, berba doesn't. if we remove rooney's assists copped via set-plays, i doubt he has up to 15.



forget playing time? so a striker who has 3000 mins to play should get more goals than the one with 5800 mins to play? your deductive reasoning needs help from united nations. playing time is the key - a player cannot make assists or score goals on the bench



how many assists did berbatov cop in these seasons? you cannot put them because it destroys your argument, isn't it?



yet again, you left your common sense in the bedroom. the number of goals/assists in 4 years is meaningless if we don't know how many league minutes spent to get them. why are you so thick?

of course, penalties are counted as goals but when you have a striker using penalties to cover up even when his form is shyte then you have to separate goals gotten from open play from the ones gotten from set plays. you said rooney has scored from 14 penalties, berba in a red shirt scored from 2. is that a fair comparison?



headless chicken runs don't impress me..... why should a player so gifted like berbatov run with the ball. his first touch alone has done the 80% of the task.....whilst rooney's first touch takes the ball 20 yards away and he then pursues it!



your 3 year-old brother understands arithmetic more than you do. holyfield/tyson? this is more like a UFC fighter boxing a paraplegic who sits at home playing tekken!




whether rooney has scored 39 pens or 8 pens is irrelevant to the argument. fact is - berbatov still beats him hands down if you strip their goals down to open play goals per min. assists per minute tells you how ridiculously effective berbatov was for us.......in spite of the nonsense you read in the media.

StarBoard: elampiro,
Forgive me,
But Rooney comes nowhere near legendary status at OT.
Asking for two transfers within 2 1/2 years cannot endear you to the Stretford end faithful by any means.
Take montelik's advise and be quiet.
The only King at Old Trafford is Eric Cantona.
Unless you want to tell us you are a newbie when it comes to supporting Manchester United.

Meanwhile coogar is making a living poking holes in your logic.

montelik: Okay, you are getting confused. Who mentioned Giggs or anything related to him.

coogar: yes - you did! you said berbatov has never scored with his head with a defender to beat!



you have a problem with deductive reasoning.....
by your calculations - rooney has 22 EPL goals from open playin 09/10 season but he had 2,710 league minutes to score that. in 2011/12, rooney scored 21 EPL goals but he had 2,830 league minutes to complete that..

berbatov scored 21 EPL goals from open play in 2208 league minutes. even a kid of 3 years of age knows that berbatov was more productive by looking at those stats. you cannot compute effectiveness without putting the number of minutes taken to score the goals.

rooney(09/10) - 123 mins per goal
rooney(11/12) - 135 mins per goal
berbatov(10/11) 105 mins per goal




berbatov missed only one penalty for united in his career. rooney has missed how many? he has missed 9 alone in the league. who should be criticised more harshly? why did fergie take the baton from rooney and gave to van persie? because rooney is shyte!



how many minutes did it take rooney to cop 26 assists? how many minutes did it take berbatov? you have to remember rooney takes corners and indirect freekicks that have led to goals. berbatov did not take those in a red shirt and yet he has been more productive than rooney in making goals......




berbatov has 5 UCL goals in 4 years but how many european games did he start in those 4 years? how many minutes did he cop in those 4 years? rooney has 27 UCL goals(including about 7 penalties) in 9 years. how many starts did rooney get in that period and how many minutes? statistics should be computed per minute not the rëtarded way you are laying it out!



you know you have lost an argument when you compare okocha and JS park to berbatov on techniques? did okocha win a golden boot in england? did JS park?



if your aunty had tësticles, she would be your uncle. ronaldo has been in madrid for 4 seasons and he's not won a champions league. that's the fact! if, should have, would have, could have are just nonsense talks. the team ruud played in weren't even the standard galactico known to madrid. ronaldo is playing in the most expensive team ever assembled in the history of madrid and yet he cannot win the champs league - by your logic, ronaldo isn't a good player.....



berbatov - £31m
rooney - £26m
fergie valued berbatov more - paying that much for a 27-year old especially when united have the trinity of rooney + tevez + ronaldo in the team represents value'



who cares what he takes - all we are saying is he can fück off to a region where the sun don't shine! he's not bigger than united. he's useless and worthless!



i won't even dignify the above with a reply - this is nonsense. bottom line is i have been able to prove minus the set plays, berbatov is a far more productive striker than rooney on the pitch!

dademola: hw can we persuade a playa, whose performance level has dropped considerably, to stay??it shud be rooney talking about upping his performances, so as to merit a place in d team, bro!! such a playa even has d guts to submit a transfer request!! Do u knw wot it means to submit a transfer request?? Wot an insult to man utd!!! Baba, u hav no point!!

montelik: King Rooney? Who the hell is that? There is only one King in O.T folklore.

https://www.a1sportingmemorabilia.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/e/r/eric-cantona-signed-photo-manchester-united-autograph.jpg

coogar: because it takes more than a striker to win in europe. ronaldo is in madrid - what is stopping him from winning the champions league there even with mourinho? what has stopped mario gomez? benzema? etc. you ridicule yourself when you ask these questions.



everyone reading your posts would know you are a pathological liar. when you wake up tomorrow - get a computer and see the gifs i provided on this page to show berbatov's skills beating defenders with exquisite tekkers that rooney can only dream of!

i cannot even waste my time assessing your weak points. the stats are there for all to see - berbatov produces the goods more than rooney - he's the scorer of open play goals unlike rooney. rooney scored 9 league penalties last season. scored 8 league penalties in 09/10.



i am not even sure you argue with common sense. what has zidane, xavi and cannavaro gotta do with this? are they strikers? why is the world's best player the highest scorer of goals in the last 3-4 seasons? for a striker, the ability to score/make goals count!

there's nothing rooney can do better than berbatov - you said berbatov hasn't scored with his head before? 2 of his goals in his hatrick against liverpool were headers. you said berbatov cannot run past defenders - he had more dribbles than rooney at man utd!

you lie to make points - you must be lying for a living!



another lie is born - berbatov made more goals than rooney when they both played at united. berbatov's assists per minute is higher than rooney's in spite of rooney's constant taking of set plays(freekicks, corner kicks). berbatov doesn't take those!



category 5 hurricane indeed!
your math must be 2nd grade. i have tabulated their stats in the other page, berba wins hands down stats wise. even when you look at the tekkers both display on the pitch, berbatov still wins.....



you need to look at the international stats again. rooney, 35 goals in 81. berbatov has 48 in less than 80 games. if there's any hurricane, it's swallowed you completely leaving your carcass @ ebute meta!



rooney is worthless - he has not won the FA cup(another lie exposed) - he's won exactly what oshea has won in trophies! rooney is bleeding the club dry with his £200k per week and producing below average performances. chicharito outperforms rooney every season but the fat british hype continues to pull the wool over the eyes of fans like you. the champions league we won? rooney was substituted - he underperformed!



berbagod? he made the PFA team in his debut season for a lowly-rated spurs team in 06/07. a feat rooney did not manage in his debut season here. berbatov won the golden boot scoring 21 goals from open play - rooney is yet to win a golden boot for united in 8 seasons.

berbatov won 2 league titles, carling cup, community shield, etc. he made the PFA team again in 2011, he won the landmark award for a golden boot as the first striker to score 10 goals in 2010/11 and the first to score 20 in the same season - he did all this from scoring from open play. tevez the joint top scorer that season scored from 5 penalties to rack up his stats.

berbatov is god!

dademola: @elampiro; r u saying man utd shud persuade rooney to stay, or what?? @cooger; stop comparing rooney to berbatov. D nistelrooy comparism is still betta.if u wanna downgrade rooney, find some oda means. Comparing him to Berbatov Ohh please!!

coogar: rooney started taking penalties in 09/10 - after ronaldo left and he's taken about 40 for man utd since then.



your points hold no water, they are full of lies...,



another lie - berbatov has scored goals against all these teams either as a united player or spurs/fulham. he scored against chelsea 3-0 at old trafford.....scored against everton in the 3-3. scored hatrick against liverpool, etc. berbatov did not take penalties for united - if he did i doubt it's more than 2.



this is another stüpid myth generated by the media to fool amateurs. berbatov slowed down attacks and yet we have giggs, scholes, carrick, etc in the team. how fast are these ones in the grand scheme of things? faster than berbatov?



that's the same rooney that cannot control the ball - rooney has the first touch of a räpist. he lacks the basic training required of a footballer. he's fat, oily, lacks vision and he's just full of the english blood and thunder!



so this means rooney is important? where do you come from? whoever fergie decides to play is entirely fergie's prerogative - it has nothing to do with the importance or the non-importance of his players. rooney is english and there would be media pressure if fergie leaves him on the bench.



this is another contrived bullcrap. when the occasion is tough, rooney loses his head. he's the most unruly football player we have had ever. did he not swear to the camera that got him banned in the semis against city at wembley? his stüpidity has cost united many games - clapping in the referee's face in europe. acting like a goat against fulham, got sent off n missed the crucial game against villa when we had to rely on macheda to get us 3 points in the last minute. rooney is bad news - an overrated piece of shyte!



king rooney indeed -
berbatov scored 48 goals in 77 apps for his country - with inferior players who are not even recognised. king rooney with the brilliance of lampard/gerrard n co has a miserable 35 goals in 81 apps. berbatov is the better player at the club level and at national team level!



united bought berbatov for £31m at 27. they bought rooney for £25m as the hottest young player on the planet in 2004. in their respective peaks, berbatov was the costlier striker!



rooney played ahead of berbatov in 09/10, rooney was the arrow head and berbatov was the provider. in most games, berba was even deeper than valenicia. our route to most of the goals that season was - a diagonal pass from berbatov to valencia - valencia cross and rooney taps in.

mention 2 penalties that berbatov took in his time at united in the league. berbatov took penalties, when? berbatov is the provider - he had more league assists than rooney in 09/10. the only season berbatov played as the arrow head was when he won the golden boot.

coogar: how old was rooney then? who cares? the number of penalties rooney takes his first 4 seasons would skew the stats towards his favour. berbatov is an open play goalscorer.......

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rooney scores loads of penalties and he's now had a longer time to bond better with team-mates unlike berbatov who had a mere 4 seasons and spent 3,000 less minutes than rooney in the same 4-season-period!

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/nikta-q8/Berbatov.gif

boy, see first touch!!!!!

coogar: stam? he had a total of 1 league appearance and 2 appearances in the whole season on ruud's debut. do you actually follow man utd?? silvestre? phil neville? who are those? at their best, they are not better than buttner.

ruud won the league in his 2nd season at united(02/03), reached the semis of the champions league that season. lost on goals difference to leverkusen.

rio got suspended in 2004. united were 5 points ahead of the arsenal invincibles as at then. fergie refused to buy a replacement n united's season went to the dogs from then on.

every team needs a good keeper to win trophies - roy caroll and tim howard were too short of quality to carry us. howard's mistake got mourinho's porto the win against us in 03/04. we got the FA cup, ruud scored in the final!

ruud was injured for most parts in 04/05 to do anything and the team had gone worse by then. ageing players, more mediocre signings and it was a goalie mistake that cost us against milan as we lost at old trafford.

SailorXY: im watchijng this copa del rey final, ronaldo's attitude keep getting worse. throws tantrum and reacts to everything... na wa oo