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Even in the match against Everton, Pogba dented his world class performance by giving the ball away via showboating and lackaidaisical approach.

That is minus one match sef. So his world class performance is like two matches now.

Pogba is yet to win player of the month. Something Zaha, Son, Dele Ali have won.

Adisaowalla, when I said Pogba is world-class, I meant in recent matches. Last 3-5 matches he has shown world class performance. We have to keep watching him to know if he is world class.

World class cannot play half a season without winning player of the month award, not to talk of two and half Seasons already.

And two years ago, Dele Ali still made the EPL team ahead of Pogba

The real world class players.

lekkie073:
this is one of his numerous Confused stance on pogba....

I was 100% correct, even Paul Scholes said it. A player as expensive as Pogba should be scoring like Ronaldo and Messi. But less expensive Kante dey play pass am.

Kante won EPL player of the year, Pogba has not been able to win United player of the year.

Ekwe Sample

lekkie073:
more Confusion even when pogba dey score goals and make asists

That comment from December 2016, yes Pogba was a useless player at the time.

Kante was winning player of the month, dribbling Smalling to score sexy goals that season and Pogba was showboating.

He was shitty

lekkie073:
elrony's reply to the Confused village man

Confused he goat. I stand my my words that Pogba was useless for us in November 2017.

Adisaowalla:
Ermmn Elampiro, i no understand again o.

In your 1st response to Lekkie073, you opined that Pogba is world-class.

however, you seem to have contradicted yourself afterwards (abi na my eyes no see wella again ni?)

Please, what's your final stance on Pogba??

Pogba is just a player. One of our players. He was there last season and Lingard was our best attacking player.

If Oliseh were from South America or Europe, he would have been rated far higher because he was a great DM on the field of play picking long range passes deep in his half, breaking down attacks easily and fast in movement. Instrumental in winning Afcon in his first attempt for Eagles. Won the Olympics for a small football country like Nigeria. Won the league in Netherlands and Germany.

Abeg shift with your argument. You did not recommend Pogba more than I. My concerns about him were spot on because players of his signing fees at the time hit the ground running.
......

My own now. I don dey see how we go take get result in Turin.

lekkie073:
has veratti scored the number of goals pogba scored?

And u should ask yourself, is sanchez the same one that played in barca and arsenal?

Has he lived up to Kroos and Kante in the last two years? Did you not see Kante and Kroos in your comment of 2016?

lekkie073:
You are nothing but a pathological liar

I am not Chrisley024. Those are Chrisley024 posts.

Your last screenshot confirmed that I agreed to support you on Pogba.

You see?

You see people were asking questions because they were not convinced. Not many watch Italian league.

But ask yourself, since 2016, how has Pogba performed compared to the players the guy here listed?

lekkie073:
need I remind you of this

Yes, that was what I saw him doing in the Champions League. That post was July 1st 2016.

After looking at his stats, I was more favourable towards him and even backed your stance.

But let me also show you something. Wait

It looks like I even strongly recommend Pogba more than this Lekkie073 who is now doing ITK

Talsima:

#BREAKING Paul Pogba has just landed in Los Angeles and will have his Manchester United medical.

[via @francefootball @Europe1 @lequipe21]

I was the one giving update about the coming of Pogba.

I am yet to see where I said bad things about his coming.

Lekkie073, I don't understand where you are coming from.

elampiro:
The Reasoning Behind United's World Record Move for Pogba

by Miguel Delaney at Wednesday, Jul 27 2016

After the latest talks with Manchester United about Paul Pogba, Juventus were still completely unmoving on their asking price of €120m - with all representative fees to be thrown on top of that too - and it’s a figure that’s still a little hard to get your head around.

It’s all the more difficult to comprehend if you solely consider the player’s performances at Euro 2016. With Pogba taking centre stage of a tournament his own country were hosting, expectation had almost built to the point that he was expected to emulate Zinedine Zidane and deliver the trophy with definitive individual displays, just as the midfield maestro managed in 1998.

That didn’t happen. In fact, Pogba didn’t make much happen at all. He obviously wasn’t the complete flop that some seem to be arguing, but he was just quiet, only ever showing the odd flash of that obvious talent. Pogba often seemed constrained by his position, in fact, but that might be the key to comprehending why it is not quite so utterly ludicrous to paying so much for what is mostly potential.

As gradually became clearer throughout Euro 2016 and was made painfully apparent in the final, Didier Deschamps never figured out how to properly use the 23-year-old’s abilities, and ended up just awkwardly fitting him into very fixed roles rather than looking to integrate the player into a fluid midfield that released him. The defeat to Portugal was the nadir, as it was like Pogba had been ordered not to leave the centre circle. This just wasn’t the best use of his quality.

It was, however, very like some of Steven Gerrard’s most frustrating displays for Liverpool and England; when he was being shoe-horned into a position that didn’t fully suit his excellence. It was one of the most persistent issues with Gerrard’s otherwise brilliant career, and could yet be a defining one for Pogba’s nascent career.

Because of the way the long-legged French star combines exhilarating physical power with supreme technical ability, but so often seems shackled and subdued by roles that require more tactical discipline, the comparisons with the Liverpool legend come easy. Finding exactly the right position to fully maximise his quality isn’t so easy, as Deschamps found, but Mourinho may well have a solution.

He certainly had a clear role in mind for Gerrard at Chelsea in 2005, explaining why he was so keen to sign the English midfielder that summer, and it’s equally difficult not to think he has the same thing in mind for Pogba. There was an instructive press conference with Mourinho at Chelsea last season, even if he was talking about playmakers, as so many traits seemed applicable to the French international.

“I like a number 10 to score goals. I like a number 10 to get in the box. I like a number 10 to score Oscar goal against Maccabi. A number 10 for me is an eight-and-a-half when the team loses the ball, and the number 10 is a nine-and-a-half when the team has the ball.”

The point here isn’t that Pogba would necessarily play number-10, although that can’t be ruled out. The point is Mourinho’s emphasis on movement, on power. They are characteristics United’s mostly turgid midfield need above anything, and they are what Pogba provides in abundance.

At Juve last season, he dribbled 2.9 times per game - the third most in Serie A - and that was more than anyone at Mourinho’s 2014/15 Chelsea title-winning team, bar Eden Hazard at 4.9. He also offered more interceptions than anyone in that midfield, with 1.3 per game, except Nemanja Matic on two. Pogba will also regularly try his luck from distance, with 3.5 shots per match.

Even though Mourinho does have alternative options, it’s still likely he has very specific position in mind for Pogba’s very specific abilities. He really could be key in that sense. United just have to unlock negotiations - or go all in.

The money could be truly preposterous, but the reality is it already always some way ludicrous. When you have as many commercial deals as United do, does £20m really make that much of a difference, given it’s a player so desired? Failure to get him could make a real difference to their approach and that is something else United have to get their heads around.
https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/xny8asd4v0seujn3vfervq/Show/The-Reasoning-Behind-Uniteds-World-Record-Move-for-Pogba

Meanwhile look at the statistics I brought out about Pogba trying to say we should go for him.

Talsima:
Lekkie073

What do you have to say about this high fee for Pogba, assuming everything we are reading is true?

This was what I asked you about Pogba. I am trying to find out where I wrote him off.

At somewhere else I also asked you his performance in Serie A based on the fact that I don't follow that league. You said it was a good buy, then I told you that I will follow your stance.

But when Pogba was performing poorly on his arrival, I called you that you should come explain. You replied with insults and even removed your head from the initial recommendation.

lekkie073:
form and class are different. U can't be world class if u r not world class.... No matter your form!

Yes we cannot object Sanchez too because he is world class. We must wait for 3 years for his form to match his world class status.

lekkie073:
my friend, stop twisting. U were all out against pogba... price tag, poor form, waste of money etc.

Ur useless brain even made u type that he is not as good as Sunday oliseh. The Internet never forgets...


Now rate the same pogba now based on
Price tag
Form
Wasted money

I always knew your head is big for nothing.

Pogba is world class in 3 matches from Juventus match in UCL to yesterday doesnt make him world class.

He has to be world class for two seasons to be world class. You maggot infested brain. You know nothing.

Sanchez is more world class than Pogba, so we should wait for 3 years before a world class should hit the ground running? Are you well at all? Did Mbappe, Neymar wait for 3 years to start showing signs of world class.


YOU NO KNOW BALL.

And we also have to pray that he continues the form because he has only been world class in the past four or five matches.

He didn't start the season well, don't forget. But again I can forgive because he came from a world cup final.

lekkie073:
the world class that I saw in juventus but u couldn't see in your calabash.

So u see, sometimes ur views are not the truth.
A player can be good and does badly while a player can as well be bad but have occasional good games. So sometimes you only choose to pick on the good games of players you like while always pick on the bad side of players you hate.

Yes or true?

Did I or did I not say he had potentials? My major problem was the price at the time when I thought we could have gotten players who could immediately impact on our midfield as Carrick was going.

Let’s understand the reason for argument.

People writing from mental home are hoping others are brought to join them there to keep company. They are tired of isolation and even want to pay for people to join them. Terrible!!!

Carry your cross alone.

lekkie073:
what's your new stance on pogba?

World class.

But I never wrote him off, only complained he was not doing well. So don't get me wrong.

The major problem with United is that the players cover very little ground in the first half. They recover lazily to park the bus when we lost possession, while building slowly when we have possession. The opposition very easily regroup before we build to their final third.

The trauma of many bad results and many early goals conceded makes us afraid going all out from the blast of the whistle. There is this attitude of 'let's avoid another shocking start'. We are gradually over coming it. With more positive results we should be starting better.

ChristineC:
the defense was also better last term at least. I don't think these guys can play again without conceding.
The lingering exclusion of Eric Bailly has not been justified.

The problem is that none of the central defenders is consistent. So no one can justify the selection or non selection of any of them. Smalling started as best, but currently it is Lindelof. In the last match some analysts put question marks on both of them.

eph12:
When Herrera and Rashford came in yesterday, they forced a lot of errors from Bournemouth and chances for us.

He may not have a very good game but it was better than Young.

Those errors were forced when Sanchez was combining with Rashford. As soon as Sanchez was withdrawn, Rashford was directionless.

The choice of Shaw and Rashford in that MOTM award is ill thought.

patrickmuf:
Should we just accept that we will always be poor in the first half of games? It's a serious concern, Bournemouth would've had the game dead and buried if they took their chances earlier on.
Next weekend, we are up against City, we can't for any reason afford to start slow again.

May be Mourinho doesn't come with a plan anymore, he fixes things at half time.

eph12:
Elampiro will be angry o

And you want to agree with that Rashford had a good game?

That selection is inconsistent with what happened yesterday

If na to play safe passes front, side and backwards (Martial take give me back take again), we can put Shaw ahead of Young in attacking threat.

But when it comes to daring forward, taking risk pushing attack, venturing passes, trying to take on a marker, it is Young. He is far better pushing attack.