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crazypencils20:
Bros Elampiro, wetin you wan gain from this Lingard > Lukaku, Morata > Lukaku, Murray > Lukaku argument.

So if you be Manchester United coach, you go bench Lukaku for any of the aforementioned players? Abi how?

chrisley024:
Forget all this stats! Anyone that watches Lingard knows he's average and should be a squad player, best as a sub player when opponents are tired and he can use his quick movement and marauding runs. But start him in games and he looks clueless and a headless chicken most times. Dude is not that intelligent for the role he's given, but just like Fellaini, it's about how the coach uses them to tap their full strength.

This is why some experts say “statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.”

eph12:
He spent 3 seasons with us and he scored above 20 just once

eph12:
How many goals did Kante score when he won EPL player of the year?

eph12:
Van Persie was in England for 11 years and score above 20 in the EPL just twice. I just dey laugh

eph12:
Van Persie was in England for 11 years and score above 20 in the EPL just twice. I just dey laugh

raumdeuter:
Lingard played 45mins in SUper cup and over 200mins in the CL

What is the highest assists Silva has ever had in the EPL? DeBryne is one of the favorite to win the PFA player of the year why? Is he the top scorer?

In the premier league Kane has topped goal scored chart he has never won best player

What is Ronaldinho Zidane Xavi etc known for Kanu won 2 African player of the year, he never scored for Nigeria in any tournament

raumdeuter:
Did BBC site add his Champions League and UEFA super cup minutes?

Everything counts, Goals count and assist counts as well for an attacking player

eph12:
I have decided to use elamps logic. I know very well Rooney's influence in the team and his legendary status, but elampiro logic is that if you are not scoring goals you are wasted

eph12:
We are not comparing gods with mortals. Them no be mate. Ask me about Hazard and co.

Which player gives same output as Ronaldo and Messi in the last 10 years? Messi and Ronaldo can do whatever they like, don't compare with them abeg

eph12:
Lies, lies everywhere. The first time Rooney scored 20+ goals in a premier league season for United was in 2009/2010, 7 years after he joined United. Just look at how poor he was especially when he played with men like Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Tevez, Ruud, Carrick, Van Persie

eph12:
Lies, lies everywhere. The first time Rooney scored 20+ goals in a premier league season for United was in 2009/2010, 7 years after he joined United. Just look at how poor he was especially when he played with men like Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Tevez, Ruud, Carrick, Van Persie

eph12:
I never said this elampiro, maybe you can point this out to me if i did.

Lingard's primary role in the team is to link defence with attack, create goals and score lastly score if opportuned.

eph12:
Rooney scored 20+ goals in a season just twice in 13 years at Old Trafford

raumdeuter:
Martial 11 goals 10 assists = 21 contribution to goals in 2082mins
Lingaard 13 goals 5 assists = 18 contribution to goals in 2069mins
Rashford 12 goals 9 assists = 21 contribution to goals in 2233mins

Now you decide

raumdeuter:
Lukaku 25 goals 8 assists

patrickmuf:
Stats don't tell the whole story, Mkhitaryan comes to mind...

patrickmuf:
So you mean most of the matches Lingard has started, the plan was to counter the threat of the opposition we came up against? If so, then the issue with Mou, setting up always to contain the opposition rather than the other way around.

eph12:
What is Lingard's primary work?

Van P didn't play a team without heritage

eph12:
Lukaku has not been scoring, neither has he been bailing us.

Since you want us to be using children logic let's continue na

eph12:
No he was bought to score and Lingard should be creating. Why is he not creating?

eph12:
Are you seriously going to argue the new coach angle?

According to elampiro, if a youngster plays the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season and scores, he is better than every other player because of his goal per match rating

obailala:
Lol... Politics can be sweet and exciting at times. I can see some people on this thread who just a few weeks ago were totally dumb and depressed when there were consecutive reports of the Nigerian stock market doing very well in global rankings, these lot have suddenly found their voice and their feet. I can feel their excitement at this negative report from thousands of miles away.

eph12:
elampiro

Lukaku after the Chelsea game



Shouldn't it be the other way round? Should Lingard not be asking Lukaku to stay in the box so he can create the chance?

eph12:
We can see the reason Lingard scored just 5 goals in 40+ matches last season.

You have not told us how Lingard failed to score with Lukaku on the pitch or how Rooney was so useless, SAF took the penalty duties from him.

eph12:
Lukaku wasn't even in the team last season and that was why Lingard easily scored 20+ goals last season.

eph12:
You were trying to tell us that Lingard has been doing better than this before Lukaku came.

patrickmuf:
Oga easy on the lies, Fergie used Rooney in the Pogba role, how do you keep a straight face and compare Rooney's role in midfield with Lingard who ordinarily should be linking our midfield and attack but due to his technical deficiencies is forced to run around just to deceive folks like you.
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patrickmuf:
Next time you sit to watch our match, take a closer look at Lingard, he'll drive forward with the ball when there's space but once he encounters an opposition player, he'll run into him and lose the ball...This is serious activity...
J.S. Park was not just all hustle, he could pass, dribble and score occasionally, he was perfect almost every time, his role was even limited at United compared to his PSV days where he played mostly from the wings/AM position (case in point, watch PSV vs Milan, UCL semis or quarters in 2007)...Park was a very intelligent player, hard worker, yes but technically good.
I am of the opinion that he should be loaned out if Pogba must blossom cos he plays too much and ends up distracting others, all those childish handshakes and stuffs are not for serious footballers...

eph12:
This was said about Lingard at the end of last season

Martial scored a total of 8 goals in all competitions last season. Make of this what you want

patrickmuf:
This bolded sums up our approach to games, we now set up to counter the threat of teams instead of teams setting up to counter the threat we pose...This is the reason why Lukaku isn't scoring enough...
How on earth do you start Fellaini in your most important game of the season and expect your striker to thrive, Elampiro, if you saw that game vs Sevilla, we kept on aiming long balls to Fellaini who originally was part of a two man midfield, this stupid tactic left Matic all on his own for the most part in that first half.
We hardly create goal scoring opportunities for our forwards compared to our rivals and to be honest, our best croses into the box this season has been done by who? Lukaku...He isn't the standard but he has been class above the rest for the past month and a half...
I still don't know why Mou disrupted the Lukaku - Martial partnership in favor of Sanchez...