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Music/Radio / Re: Nigerian Artists Stage Performance, When Will They Stop Cheating Us? by elektra80: 10:22pm On Oct 29, 2013
Ogbeche77: We are been exploited by greedy promoters and marketers... And most of their shows are even album listening party not the original stage performance those American musicians perform on stage...
The same Whizkid ll perform in London and the gate fee ll be £10 - £15.. But when they perform on home soil, tickets are sold for N10,000 and above.
There's even this new trend of VVIP, a table could go as high as N1 million.. WTH.. And people still go, its pure dross

Oh yes, the new thing now is the so called table for 10 for 1 million. I was at AY's Easter show earlier this year, Non of the artists that performed put up a good show, they were all miming their songs and fans were praising them.. If not for the comedians that actually did well, it would have been a waste of time and money. Fans need to realize that these artists are conning us . Maybe they need to watch what we call a real live performance someday. The only time lip syncing or miming should be forgiven is when the artist dances on stage , e.g P Square. We know it is hard to dance and sing at the same time

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Music/Radio / Re: Nigerian Artists Stage Performance, When Will They Stop Cheating Us? by elektra80: 8:31am On Oct 29, 2013
Infomizer: I'll blame the organizers here. Only few fans know that what they get is junk. The majority 'll take whatever you give 'em (e.g what's up 9ja) and be happy. I was at motherlan some years back and Lagbaja murdered the audience. Jazzman olofin performed his hit track (lip-synced of course) there that same night but the difference was clear! Lip-syncing sux...

Yes Lip- syncing really sux. If u ask me I prefer to watch the sharp band at comedy club than watch Davido lip-syncing on stage. Gone are the days where artists need to work hard to perform on stage, these days they give us rubbish. If only fans can rise up against them and demand a REAL performance or ask for a refund... or better still boycott their shows.

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Music/Radio / Nigerian Artists Stage Performance, When Will They Stop Cheating Us? by elektra80: 8:01am On Oct 29, 2013
I was outside the country sometimes last year and there was this concert, A few Nigerian Artists were on stage. It was a much publicized concert, the gate fee was a fortune. But what really bothered me was the artists on stage didn't even put up any stage worthy performance, they were all miming and lip syncing. From D'Banj to 9ice, from Kas to Davido, M.I, Tiwa Savage, .. all of them. I mean If they will come on stage to mime their songs, then why do we pay a lot of money to invite and watch them, we can as well get a dj to play their songs.

The last time D'banj came to Malaysia, I heard he was paid $50,000 because I am close to the organizers. $50,000, plus ticket, plus hotel and chicks, and yet u come on stage to mime ur song.. that is a scam. The last time 9ice and Nigga Raw also came same thing, they came on stage by 4am and finished by 5am after miming a few of their songs, and yet they get paid lots of money. Now I am not talking small parties like a birthday or wedding, in such case miming ur song is no problem, I am talking about real concerts where u are supposed to actually perform ur songs.

I watched Rihana's 777 concert and wow, the babe really did a lot of work. So much energy and she performed all songs live, no lip syncing, no cd's. All the beats were manufactured right there on the stage... that is how a live concert should be. Now I am not asking Nigerian artists to manufacture their beats on stage, but at least have cd's of ur instrumental and then sing the actual songs instead of playing their sings and they lip syncing. Our artists are getting lazy, before a stage performance they get high and come and perform rubbish because they know whatever they give we fans will take. There re a few artists out there they give a real stage performance. I watched Asa on stage some times ago and I was really impressed. Did all songs live, there was a live band, no stupid instrumentals, so much energy, value for money.. that is how a stage performance should be.

So who do I blame? I don't blame the artists, I blame the organizers and the fans. If Organizers can insist that these artists put up a good performance or get sued, if fans can boo them and throw things at them whenever they come to lip sync instead of screaming and hailing them, maybe they can learn to work hard and really earn the huge amount they are paid. What do u have to say peeps, all opinions are welcome.

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Car Talk / Re: 2013 Abuja Int'l Motor Fair: Compare Car Brands. by elektra80: 6:37am On Oct 29, 2013
mehhn, Peugoet need to change their design engineers. Terrible design for 2014... are u kidding me? The only car I like here is the 508, but then match it against a 2014 Camry, Accord or Maxima? I will choose the Japos. 301 vs 2014 corolla? No contest, can't even match the Yaris. 3008 vs Rav 4? No contest. 4008 vs Highlander? U dey maddt?
Car Talk / Re: Ever Had Your Keys Locked Inside Your Car, With No Spare Around? by elektra80: 11:50am On Oct 26, 2013
doofanc: I have been in such situations b4 and its not funny at all. the remote system in my car is such dat it locks automatcally once key in d ignition.

i was travelling and stepped out to ease myself and left d door open but somehow, whether its breeze something, the door just shut while and locked. mmeen i weak no be small. everything was inside d car.

luckily i was able to get a pamel beater and can u blive it didnt take him more than 10 mimutes to disable the lock. i shock no be small.

it is not normal for a door to lock itself when door is closed and key in the ignition. Either there's a problem with ur central lock system or u need to enter a code to disable auto lock(depending on the car type). Doors are often programmed to lock when u step on the brake to move the gear, or when u reach a certain speed. So my guy u need to get it fixed before the worse happens

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Car Talk / Re: Japanese Or German Cars- Which Do You Prefer And Why? by elektra80: 1:09am On Oct 26, 2013
elektra80:

How many times have u seen a lotus, Ferrari 312T, pagani zonda, McLaren, Tyrell p34, etc drive by... Because these are a few of F1 cars. So its very silly of u to ask how many Japanese cars have won the F1 when u know F1 cars are not street cars. I am not taking it away from German cars. They have come a long way and the brand that is Mercedes and BMW are respected. But believe it or not, Toyota have been getting better scores recently. In fact the Toyota brand has leap frogged Benz and BMW in the chat of top brands in 2013, u can google it urself. If they can be that, it means they are doing something right.

it is not comparing a lizard with aligator... Well it might be when u are comparing a Mercedes Benz e320 with a Toyota Camry or an accord, but it becomes tighter when u compare it with a Lexus or an Acura... Or are these not japs? Germans have been in the game for long. Japs came in with their own strategy which was to produce economy cars to win customers and believe me,over the years they have improved, bringing a balance to economy, performance and reliability, something the Germans don't care about. Its not just about performance, what about reliability? Its no secret Toyota and Honda sell more cars, its because of their reliability. Go to Owode Onirin, u will see what I'm talking about. I have seen some VW and Skoda cars that are terrible, are they not Germans? Or are German cars just Benz and BMW? What about Infiniti? Is that not Japanese? Or does that feel like paper when u are driving it? Have u driven the Hyundai Equus? That is one hell of a car that gives the S class a run for its money. Lets take,for example. An average bachelor that wants to get his first car for driving around the city to and from work, would u buy a Benz or a Toyota? Of course majority would buy a Toyota. But if u are rich, u get the 2. The Benz for weekend things and Toyota as,everyday car. So its a win win, both have their advantage or disadvantage. Mistakes people make is comparing a top class luxurious Mercedes Benz e class or clk with a Toyota Camry when they should be comparing with a Lexus or Infiniti. Check attached pictures of Hyundai Equus.

Car Talk / Re: Japanese Or German Cars- Which Do You Prefer And Why? by elektra80: 12:24am On Oct 26, 2013
tonychristopher: when was the last time you saw Toyota,mazda,mitshibushi and subaru win a formular 1 race or grand prix

when was the last time you see an asian jeep used in real warfare, who started the manufacture of cars

comparing japos with german cars is like comparing lizard.with an aligator

have you ever driven a Benz and appreciate the handling then you drive a Mazda it looks as a paper

been largest producer of autos isn't quality but quantity

German cars have their niche market but japos are all comers affair


IT'S LIKE COMPARING A ROLEX DATEJUST CHRONO WITH CASIO. WHAT A TRAVESTY.

How many times have u seen a lotus, Ferrari 312T, pagani zonda, McLaren, Tyrell p34, etc drive by... Because these are a few of F1 cars. So its very silly of u to ask how many Japanese cars have won the F1 when u know F1 cars are not street cars. I am not taking it away from German cars. They have come a long way and the brand that is Mercedes and BMW are respected. But believe it or not, Toyota have been getting better scores recently. In fact the Toyota brand has leap frogged Benz and BMW in the chat of top brands in 2013, u can google it urself. If they can be that, it means they are doing something right.

it is not comparing a lizard with aligator... Well it might be when u are comparing a Mercedes Benz e320 with a Toyota Camry or an accord, but it becomes tighter when u compare it with a Lexus or an Acura... Or are these not japs? Germans have been in the game for long. Japs came in with their own strategy which was to produce economy cars to win customers and believe me,over the years they have improved, bringing a balance to economy, performance and reliability, something the Germans don't care about. Its not just about performance, what about reliability? Its no secret Toyota and Honda sell more cars, its because of their reliability. Go to Owode Onirin, u will see what I'm talking about. I have seen some VW and Skoda cars that are terrible, are they not Germans? Or are German cars just Benz and BMW? What about Infiniti? Is that not Japanese? Or does that feel like paper when u are driving it? Have u driven the Hyundai Equus? That is one hell of a car that gives the S class a run for its money. Lets take,for example. An average bachelor that wants to get his first car for driving around the city to and from work, would u buy a Benz or a Toyota? Of course majority would buy a Toyota. But if u are rich, u get the 2. The Benz for weekend things and Toyota as,everyday car. So its a win win, both have their advantage or disadvantage. Mistakes people make is comparing a top class luxurious Mercedes Benz e class or clk with a Toyota Camry when they should be comparing with a Lexus or Infiniti. Check attached pictures of Hyundai Equus.

Car Talk / Re: Who Knows How To Get The Innoson IVM G5? by elektra80: 12:01pm On Oct 25, 2013
@op, why don't u call the numbers on their website if u are really interested in the suv. that's what customer service is for right? At least u will get all the into u need.
Car Talk / Re: 1st Flying Car Is Finally Here, Can Take Off Vertically In Traffic Jam! (video) by elektra80: 12:36pm On Oct 24, 2013
uken73: How can I embed the YouTube video to be viewed here directly?

that can only be possible if u use ur computer to post the link. If u use mobile phone to post the link, then it can't be viewed directly here
Car Talk / Re: Japanese Or German Cars- Which Do You Prefer And Why? by elektra80: 6:27pm On Oct 23, 2013
asala1:
How many Toyota Crowns do you see on Nigerian roads or in Auto marts compare to 190?

You are not being fair. Ask urself when did Toyota and other Japanese cars start shipping many cars to Nigeria? Back in the day, it was regular Benz and Peugeot that plied our roads. After world war 2, the Japanese economy was affected and Toyota struggled to survive. The first Toyota car that was shipped into north America was in the late 50's, and then in late 60's they shipped 2 cars to Europe. You cannot compare the evolution of Toyota to that of Mercedes Benz who have been around internationally for a long time. The influx of Japanese cars into Nigeria started in the late 80's, and then it took time for people to show their loyalty. This is why u see more 1980's Benz on our roads than u will a Toyota crown. Fast forward many years later and the story is different. Toyota are there at the top now. No wonder in the top global brand of 2013, Toyota tops other automobiles sitting at no 10, with Mercedes Benz and BMW at 11 and 12 respectively. At no 1 is Apple, google at no 2 and coca cola no 3.
Car Talk / Re: Does Anyone Know Any Staff Of Honda Place In Abuja by elektra80: 5:58pm On Oct 23, 2013
Why? Abi u want bomb the place make we know oo
Car Talk / Re: Why Is My Honda City Revving Itself.help Pls by elektra80: 2:52pm On Oct 23, 2013
jjjkkkooo: I was able to meet two experienced mechanics who say I should change the gear box. The cost is 70,000. Honda city 2006.

Do u have a check engine light on? If u do first thing is to scan ur car. Mechanics are quick to suggest buying a nee gear when they can't figure out a problem. I almost changed the gearbox of my 2005 accord as different mechanics suggested, but then I scanned the car, no codes and the ATF didn't smell like its burnt. Problem I had was vehicle loosing power especially while going up hill, it won't go unless u apply kickdown, then it would rev high and move with force. I know it wasn't normal because it wasn't doing like that when i bought the car, that thing is supposed to be 160hp. Also I hear a cranking sound when changing from gear 1 to 2, and pick up speed was so slow. I suspected the maf sensor and air filter,but then I changed the whole air intake box, came with the maf sensor and new air filter and bang, car started moving well, in fact it started flying just like new. The mechanic that asked me to change the gearbox still doesn't believe I didn't change the gearbox when he drove the car.

But then, I still had a little problem, I still lose power while going uphill. Was faster than before but still not the way it should be. I later found out it was the exhaust. A rubber that holds the exhaust close to the manifold was bad, changed the rubber and the exhaust was perfectly seated and all problems went away. So bro, before u change ur gearbox, u should check some other little things first. Just my 2 cent.
Car Talk / Re: Which 10 Car Manufacturers Do You Think Have Been Consistently Making Great Cars by elektra80: 9:58am On Oct 23, 2013
You have already mentioned about 80% of the world automakers. And for me I don't think supercars like Ferrari or Lamborghini should be in the list because they don't make everyday cars. I will add Lexus and acura to the list.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 11:09pm On Oct 21, 2013
[quote author=Ikenna351]

I don't recall the position of the headrest, but yes, do car had headrest.

The impact pushed head forward and backward, via the work of seatbelt. Imagine you are hit from behind with a big force and a belt tied you to a chair, with your neck free from the belt. The head unit (radio set) jumped/pulled out of the dashboard where it was screwed and fell unto the gear lever, to tell you how the impact was. I didn't even feel the neck pain until the day after or so. It was when I got back to Abuja the 3rd day that the pain became unbearable.

You see, you can all stay here and argue with whatever your books tells you, but I saw what happened that day, what caused it, how it happened, what it did to me and the outcome. All that because I was the VICTIM. I saw everything from the beginning to the end via the rearview mirrior. I got to the pump, slowed down, pulled out the gear stick from the 2nd gear and was about to shift it to the 1st gear to climb the bump, when I now looked at the rearview mirror and saw the disaster coming to happen before my eyes. I saw the SUV at high speed closing behind me and realised it was going to happen. I could tell from the engine note that the brake was not applied at the distance between us at the speed it was coming. Quickly, I left the gear stick in the neutral and took my feet off the pedals. It was too late by the time he pushed the brake. His wheels would have locked, considering the speed he was doing when he tried to stop the car (to prove that his ABS was working well). No noise of wheel locked of any kind. He started steering the SUV nose out to the left side (meaning the ABS working for him to steered the vehicle and it responded). Unsuccessfully, the right side bumper guard (close to right headlight) crashed onto the left rear side of the car I was driving. If I had shifted the stick to the 1st gear and apply brake when it happened, it would have been something all together. Even if I had come out with no scratch, other than the neck pain, the damage to the car would have made the car unmovable at that spot. The ABS gave him the room to steer the car completely into the other lane to prevent hitting the car, but the thinking distance was poor; he started steering when it was too late, because of over confidence of what his AUTOMATIC brake can do. And yes, the road in question is a very smooth road. Those that ply that road will know the road am talking about that is about 60-80 km with bumps at every 3-10 km.


I didn't start this topic to convince
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 11:08pm On Oct 21, 2013
Ikenna351:

I don't recall the position of the headrest, but yes, do car had headrest.

The impact pushed head forward and backward, via the work of seatbelt. Imagine you are hit from behind with a big force and a belt tied you to a chair, with your neck free from the belt. The head unit (radio set) jumped/pulled out of the dashboard where it was screwed and fell unto the gear lever, to tell you how the impact was. I didn't even feel the neck pain until the day after or so. It was when I got back to Abuja the 3rd day that the pain became unbearable.

You see, you can all stay here and argue with whatever your books tells you, but I saw what happened that day, what caused it, how it happened, what it did to me and the outcome. All that because I was the VICTIM. I saw everything from the beginning to the end via the rearview mirrior. I got to the pump, slowed down, pulled out the gear stick from the 2nd gear and was about to shift it to the 1st gear to climb the bump, when I now looked at the rearview mirror and saw the disaster coming to happen before my eyes. I saw the SUV at high speed closing behind me and realised it was going to happen. I could tell from the engine note that the brake was not applied at the distance between us at the speed it was coming. Quickly, I left the gear stick in the neutral and took my feet off the pedals. It was too late by the time he pushed the brake. His wheels would have locked, considering the speed he was doing when he tried to stop the car (to prove that his ABS was working well). No noise of wheel locked of any kind. He started steering the SUV nose out to the left side (meaning the ABS working for him to steered the vehicle and it responded). Unsuccessfully, the right side bumper guard (close to right headlight) crashed onto the left rear side of the car I was driving. If I had shifted the stick to the 1st gear and apply brake when it happened, it would have been something all together. Even if I had come out with no scratch, other than the neck pain, the damage to the car would have made the car unmovable at that spot. The ABS gave him the room to steer the car completely into the other lane to prevent hitting the car, but the thinking distance was poor; he started steering when it was too late, because of over confidence of what his AUTOMATIC brake can do. And yes, the road in question is a very smooth road. Those that ply that road will know the road am talking about that is about 60-80 km with bumps at every 3-10 km.


I didn't start this topic to convince anyone, but simply to tell how I was a victim of Nigerians interpretation of ABS and it's misuse. Anyone who is in doubt can still carry out a test and come back and prove me wrong. Just find a parked truck, tractor or bulldozer on a smooth surface road. Push your car to the limit, get too close and hold your brake pedal to the floor for the ABS to come and hold it there. And please, don't steer the wheel, just hold it steady, since the ABS is supposed to stop the car before it gets to the Tractor. After all, understanding ones vehicle braking distance means nothing, as far as ABS is concerned.

Ikenna.

story story.. Yaaaawwwnn. Nobody is saying understanding braking distance is nothing. The point is at top speed, a car with abs has a better chance of avoiding a crash than one without abs. Shikena
Car Talk / Re: How Can I Scan My Car With The Torque Android App? by elektra80: 7:02am On Oct 21, 2013
jjjkkkooo: I can't seem to find the OBD port of the car. Does it come with every car?

ur obd II port should be somewhere under ur dash. Check below ur steering, that is where Honda normally put it. Also for the elm327, I bought mine for 8,500 naira in Lagos. Since u are in Abuja I don't know if the seller can send it to Abuja for u. But her no is +2347043720790. U can call her.
Car Talk / Re: How Can I Scan My Car With The Torque Android App? by elektra80: 7:42pm On Oct 20, 2013
To use torque for android, u need to get a Bluetooth wireless obd ii scanner like ELM327 and pair it with ur phone. Once u connect the scanner to ur car, then turn on bluetooth on ur phone and search for the obd ii device. Once it is paired then launch the torque app, wait for the app to connect with the ur car ecu and u are good to go. I use this app all the time. If u want to get the best out of it, buy the torque pro and u can read real time information of ur car.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 5:31pm On Oct 20, 2013
ZIM DRILL:

the function of ABS is not reducing breaking distance but making you able to steer away from danger

thought it helps in reducing braking distance

I think u are contradicting urself. First u said abs has nothing to do with braking distance, now u said though it helps in reducing braking distance. My point is still valid.. ABS helps in reducing braking distance.. whether its the main function of abs or not that is a different topic.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 5:26pm On Oct 20, 2013
icemann:


I cannot believe you typed this shocked. Basic physics knowledge of motion tells you friction is need to stop. And don't believe everything you see online.

When you skid you have very low coefficient of friction. You need friction to stop and the traction for control of the car.

So tell me how does NO traction help in breaking and maneuvering?




ABS system gives the breaking fluid a pulse like motion when its applied. The pulse gives intermittent grip same idea of pumping your break. The idea comes from the inverse reation ship of heat and friction ie the hotter an object the less the friction. When your break locks the disc are to hot the pad almost glides on it (reason for the invention of ventilated brake disc).

I hope this helps you understand more on ABS
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 4:38pm On Oct 20, 2013
Ikenna:
[b][/b]The standard brake of every vehicle should be good enough for a good driver to use without having need to ever use the ABS, once he/she understands the car's braking distance.

Lets make an illustration. 2 same cars, brand new. One has ABS installed and the other doesn't have ABS. You are driving on a narrow bridge at a speed of 140km/hour and suddenly u notice a cow standing a few meters in front of u. The road is narrow, no where to swerve to, u don't have an option than to use ur brake. Now tell me which of the 2 cars is more likely to crash. And don't tell me u will pump ur brake on the car without ABS because there is no way u can pump it as fast as the computer will do on the car with ABS. If u think u don't need ABS, then can u kindly disconnect all the ABS sensors and the ABS module on ur car and send them to me. I will be very grateful to have them and u will be my hero. Even though they might not be useful to me because I don't use Peugeot, but I do have someone who uses Peugeot and his ABS module is faulty, so I can give it to him.

Now back to youtube.. u said u successfully converted a 504 to 505.. good job. Now during that process, if u had the whole procedure on video and then u post it to youtube, If I wanted to do the same conversion and I come to cartalk to make inquiry, won't u refer me to ur youtube channel to view the procedure? That way I have learned from u. So u see... youtube is not a bad thing, so if I post a youtube video to illustrate a point, don't u crucify me.

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Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 3:24pm On Oct 20, 2013
Ikenna351:


Back then in Awka when I was been raised under my Parents roof, I was the one troubleshooting and fixing my parents cars brake issues. From 2005 to 2006, I single handily converted Peugeot 504 GL to 505 with a stripped/empty 505 body, except the engine and gearbox that I had no tool to pull out and the strength to transfer them to the 505 body. The rest was done by me, alone, including the swapping of the brake components and getting them to work as it was doing when the system was in 504. In 2007 in Enugu, I single handily upgraded a PAN 505 brake system of an Uncle to 504 GL brake system, after he have heard so much about how good I was in fixing brakes from my parents. I made the list of items needed for the upgrade, got the money, travelled to Mgbuka-Obosi, bought the items, returned to Enugu and spent 3 days in the modification. I have been fixing the brakes of all the vehicles I have owned/used, including the present ones, till date. I carry out braking distance test each time I work on my brakes and would return to continue on the job if the test result didn't satisfy me, until I get the best result/braking distance out of the car brake. So I do not become what I am today with cars just yesterday.

I have a workshop, neither did I attend any auto technical or training institute. My cars are my Laboratories, including the ones I have owned or used before now. My cars workshop manuals are just my guide, but 80% of knowledge I have about understanding, troubleshooting and fixing cars today were acquired with my bare hands on spanners and what goes through my brain when am inside the car, the engine bay and under the car, both day and night. Most of the tips on how to manually troubleshoot and fix cars I have posted in this section, were knowledge I acquired or methods I discovered, aside what my repair manuals say, which most times are simpler to methods manuals instruct. You can Google some of them and see if you can find them online. May be someone else have figured them out and posted them online. Well, its left for you to find them and prove me a liar.

I don't read the brake systems. I dissect and study them. I have spent countless nights under my cars with torchlights, trying to figure out how to nail an issue my workshop manuals didn't cover, which at the end would figure out and fix before going to bed, if I still have more hours left to sleep till day break. Oh! I have forgotten, I replaced my SV D9 Timing belt at Night with torchlight, including the day I replaced the Thermostat. I could go on and on. Just trying to let you know how a Theorist I am. I may be doing something else to make a living, but I know who and what I am. Yes, of course, I wont know everything, we learn everyday. But I know the little I have gathered with those tools on my hands under those bonnets.

So next time am debating on a practical side of car discussion, spare me some You Tube Videos or what you read online on the topic. Find a theorist you can use that on. Am a wrong person for such.

"And I don't agree that if u understand ur car properly, u don't need ABS to stop u from hitting or steering out of an object.. that is bull crap."

This post is simply to help you realise how true your quoted comment about me is.

Ikenna.

I am not a mechanic, in fact I can't handle a spanner by myself , but I know more about how cars work than lots of so called mechanics out there. I didn't get any formal training in mechanical engineering. So if u spend the whole night under ur car with a torchlight, its non of my business. That doesn't take away the fact that abs system helps reduce braking distance... That is a proven fact and the YouTube video is just an illustration as some things can't be explained by just typing. We pay premium to buy cars equipped with abs, why would someone pay premium for something that elongates breaking distance? So abeg, if u soend all night fixing ur car by urself, it doesn't mean u know everything. We gain knowledge everyday from different sources. Be it by reading owners manual, listening to advice, practicalizing urself, through online forums, YouTube videos, etc. And why are u talking about YouTube videos anyway? Do u wanna tell me u don't watch YouTube videos for things u don't understand? I also visit the Peugeot thread and recently u posted a YouTube video of a new Peugeot engine. So there u go.

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Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 12:46pm On Oct 20, 2013
ZIM DRILL:

in simple english ABS has nothing to do with braking distance but it enables the car to be steered in any direction during braking since the wheels wont be locked in one direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKiTAcXK6M4

ok u posted a video, but did u actually watch it? Watch it again and focus on 2:30 (2 mins 30 secs) and tell me if abs doesn't SIGNIFICANTLY reduces braking distance. So much misinformation on this thread.

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Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 8:42am On Oct 20, 2013
Mlud: A lot of explanations here on how ABS works. Some are correct but there are also some misconceptions on the effect of ABS brakes when driving.
I am with lolomike on this.
I have driven cars equipped with and without and after a scary experience 10 years ago vowed never to own another car without ABS.

Anti-lock/Anti-skid brakes (ABS) work to reduce the braking distance experienced by drivers in an emergency when immediate braking assistance is needed. It works best when you stamp on the brake pedal and keep your foot on it to bring your vehicle to a much quicker stop. The pedal pulsates and kicks back at your foot which shows that the ABS is working. This quick pulsating action fools or confuses some drivers into taking their foot off the pedal as they instinctively think something is wrong. That is the reaction that increases the braking distance as the brakes stop working when you take your foot off the brake pedal.
ABS was never designed to elongate the braking distance to allow you to steer out of trouble. This belief is wrong. ABS will only elongate the braking distance in poor or uneven road surfaces or in wet and also icy road conditions. ABS works best on dry straight roads.
ABS will still work within vehicle tolerances and road conditions but also road speed. It will never defeat nor ignore the law of physics.
That's why many badly informed drivers speed above the limits allowed by traffic conditions and certainly above their driving competence and expect ABS to save them from the cemetery like the Sequoia driver who crashed into the OP. He's lucky he got away with just begging the OP. Sadly he drove away non the wiser.

Abeg help me tell them. Same thing I been trying to explain. Why would car manufacturers spend so much resources to install something into a car that will elongate braking distance?

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Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 12:18am On Oct 20, 2013
ikeyman00: ^^^^ u see u are shooting urself in the foot ahah

ikennna did tell u ABS can only kick in when u hit those break pedal hard at emergency usually so u have a situation the four wheels doesnt lock which allows u to stir out of trouble.

i have come to understand that the fact u have ur ABS light on doesnt necessarily mean it isnt working

when u look under ur car those lines that goes from the bonnet all through to the end isnt just the fuel line

some are the lines that connect the ABS sensors at the real

a simple cut will set the ABS light off nevermind a faulty sensor

Now I can confirm that u don't know what u are saying. You are the same person that says ABS increases braking distance when it should be reducing it. And where did i mention in my post that ABS kicks in everytime u hit the brake? I said in case of emergency braking, that is when ABS comes in so read my post again before u mislead people. Also u must be one of those that have christmas lights scattered on their dashboard, So in ur own understanding, an illuminated ABS light on ur dash means ABS is working? You make me laugh. That light is a warning light and its supposed to go off the moment u start ur car, if it stays on it means something is wrong with ur ABS, maybe sensors or the ABS actuator. So let me ask u, if u have an airbag light illuminated on ur dash it also means ur airbags are intact right? lol
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 10:40pm On Oct 19, 2013
The truth is ABS is a safety feature and it does reduce braking distance. And I don't agree that if u understand ur car properly, u don't need ABS to stop u from hitting or steering out of an object.. that is bull crap. Why do manufacturers install ABS then. Now I am not saying we should drive recklessly because we have ABS.. far from that. No matter how good u are on the wheels, sometimes we encounter an emergency where we need to stomp on the brake at high speed, especially on a slippery road, Now tell me how will u stop that car fast enough if u don't have ABS. Your car will slip and u lose control without able to steer it out of danger.. this is where ABS comes in, at least with ABS u have a better chance of steering the car out of danger. A lot of people have lost their lives because of wheels locking.

The problem with most Nigerians is they don't know when their ABS is working or not. I have entered several vehicles with ABS light on yet the owners think their ABS is working. Yes I have been ignorant too in the past, I use to drive a car with the ABS light always on and I thought I had working ABS not knowing its faulty. A lot of vehicles on our roads have this ABS light always illuminated on the dashboard and if u ask the owners they don't know why its on and they think their cars have ABS now knowing its as good as conventional brake.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 9:19pm On Oct 19, 2013
Ikenna351:

They are not the same. The diagnosis of Nigerian used and toknubo are not the same as well, whether the two cars are of the same model.

If someone complains that his 2001 model Nigerian used Peugeot 406 is running very thirsty, and someone else that owns a freshly tokunbo 2001 model Peugeot 406 complains of the same rich running issue, the diagnosis wont be the same. Why? For Nigerian used, you need to check if the thermostat is still in the cooling system; you need to check if the radiator electrical fan is still factory connected; you need to check if the o2 sensor has not been disconnected, since the catalytic converter must been removed; you need to check if the poor car still have factory recommended tyre size or terribly overinflated; you need to check how many injection system sensors/components are still connected, etc. All these mentioned above have to be ruled first before you even think of going into the troubleshooting proper.

But for tokunbo car, all you need to do is plug in a scanner, disconnect the wiring connector of the faulty sensors/components, replace the faulty components and reconnect the connectors. The work is finished, shikena.

Now, do you still think all 2001 model Peugeot 406 are the same when troubleshooting, whether Nigerian used or toknubo?

Last Tuesday, I went to scan a Toyota Avenza at APO that have refused to start, for only God knows how long. As soon as I opened the bonnet, I was shocked with what I saw. The complete engine wiring loom was completely butchered. I couldn't even count the number of wires I found naked. I still picked courage to go ahead with the scanning. I pepped under the steering wheel to look for the OBD II scan port and so another hell under there. Wires of different colours were cross cutting each other, butchery here and there. It was at that point that I became very scared to plug in my scanner, for fear of explosion. Even when I eventually plugged in the scanner, it failed to communicate with the ECU, which I was not surprised, anyway. I quickly unplugged it and called it a day. Two days ago, the owner of the car called and said the have eventually started after another mechanic came and opened up the timing belt chamber and found out that the previous mechanic timed the engine wrongly when replacing the timing belt. He got it corrected and the car started once. So because of wrong timing, they had to butcher the whole wire in the car looking for the culprit that made the car stop starting. That's Nigerian used car for you!

Anyway, let's not derail this thread with Nigerian used vs Tokunbo. It should be a topic on its own.


Ikenna.

You are very correct. Very funny in autos section I see adverts like this: For sale, Nigerian used 2007 Toyota Highlander bought brand new in 2007. As if the tokunbo was not also bought brand new lol. For Nigerian used cars, once the warranty period has elapsed then the abuse starts.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 8:29pm On Oct 19, 2013
ikeyman00: @@@

^^^ NO no i dnt believe u!

conventional break works like that but with the abs it moves a little bit as it approaches a stop

You don't have to believe me, I didn't invent ABS. But the truth is it reduces braking distance SIGNIFICANTLY. If u are on top speed and brake hard with conventional brake, ur wheels will lock and ur car will glide some extra distance on the road before stopping. With ABS ur car will not glide before coming to a stop because ur wheels are not locked. DO ur research well bro... u don't have to believe me but I know what I am saying. You didn't watch the video I posted did u? Abi u no get data to use watch am.
Car Talk / Re: Why Is My Honda City Revving Itself.help Pls by elektra80: 8:22pm On Oct 19, 2013
jjjkkkooo: You guys that say I should scan how much does it cost I was charged 3k here in Abuja.

3k to scan in Abuja is ok. Better still u can get ur own scanner. U can get ELM327 wireless Bluetooth scanner for about N9,000. If u have an android phone, u can download torque, if u have windows phone u can download car dash. These are very good softwares that can read codes, clear codes, monitor ur sensors, tell if ur car is on open or closed loop, etc. Really it does more than lots of stand alone scanners.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 8:08pm On Oct 19, 2013
ikeyman00: ^^^ no its doesnt; it actually increases

still me!

HUh, seriously u are thinking ABS increases braking distance? Why would a car manufacturer waste so much energy and money to fit something on a car that will increase braking distance? C'mon man, use ur common sense. ABS reduces braking distance, watch this video, focus on 2:10 upwards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSqGPyWroes
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 8:01pm On Oct 19, 2013
ziccoit:

That "ABS reduces braking distance" was not stated or implied in this video. I don't know where you get that.

Bro, abs reduces braking distance and its a proven fact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSqGPyWroes

watch from 2:10, then also see 2:40. Without abs at full speed when u brake suddenly ur wheels are locked and the car will glide across the road. With abs, the wheels are not locked which gives u control of the car, the car will come to a stop without gliding on the road, hence shorter braking distance. Also with abs u can steer to any direction u want without losing control.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSqGPyWroes
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 6:38pm On Oct 19, 2013
ziccoit:

That "ABS reduces braking distance" was not stated or implied in this video. I don't know where you get that.
Car Talk / Re: ABS: Nigerian Interpretation And Misuse. by elektra80: 2:56pm On Oct 19, 2013
Abs explained. And yes abs does reduce braking distance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5KDvXbE3M

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