₦airaland Forum

confusedlady:
@Bolded,
This is the third time you are going Ad hominem on me. I believe we can debate without insults at monikers.
My reason for that moniker is tongue in cheek because when I joined this forum there were a lot of fake Christians in the religion section and I used that moniker to move against false and fake doctrines by pretending to be confused and not knowledgeable about the contents of the Bible.
I am on the politics section to oppose Ibo supremacist agenda,which is the belief that Ibos are superior to other tribes and an agenda to dominate,subjugate and conquer other tribes spiritually, culturally and economically.
A 66 year report can not superceed the constitution that recognises a tribe as a stand alone people that are an independent entity and a seperate people.
Once again except the Ibo have a hidden agenda, they need to leave the Ikwerre people alone. They don't want to associate with the Ibo. They want to be alone and free. Why are the Ibo trying to force them to be part of an Ibo nation?
Please free the Ikwerre people to be on their own. They don't want to associate with you. It is not by force to be together.

efighter:
Peaceful like the ENDSARS abi? Let’s see you on the streets first, then you will know why Oba no dey go transfer

IGBOPROMISE1:
Bros, you’re wasting your time on that impostor! Trying to engage with him is akin to flogging a dead horse! It’s obvious he’s suffering from some kind of mental impairment or personality disorder driven by hate and a large dose of bile!

The useless ‘prof’ is yet another post-war revisionist prepared to revise history and through facts under the bus in his bid to try and please his hegemonic masters! I suppose his answer to your well-reasoned argument would be that over the past 200 years, or thereabouts, the Igbo organised meetings in which they plotted and schemed to see to it that the ‘those recently arrived immigrants from Benin Kingdom lost their Benin language and replaced it with Igbo’! That’s the only ‘explanation’ he can come up with, and assuming this was the case, shouldn’t we be clapping for those Igbo of 200 years, or so, ago for effectively hatching and executing such a plot!!?

This falls into the category of teacher no teach me nonsense…..or in his case, professor no profess me nonsense!

confusedlady:
You are presenting a 66 year old report which has been overtaken by the 1979 constitution that has since recognised the Ikwerre people as a seperate people not affiliated to any other tribe. You need to Google and read up about these things.
As for my tribe,I am not an Ikwerre but I am interested in the minority tribes issues. I am totally against Ibo supremacist agenda which seeks to gobble up the minorities because of desire to access the sea area.
I am not against Ibos but I am totally opposed to an Ibo supremacist agenda that does not consider the rights of minority tribes.

confusedlady:
You are presenting a 66 year old report which has been overtaken by the 1979 constitution that has since recognised the Ikwerre people as a seperate people not affiliated to any other tribe. You need to Google and read up about these things.
As for my tribe,I am not an Ikwerre but I am interested in the minority tribes issues. I am totally against Ibo supremacist agenda which seeks to gobble up the minorities because of desire to access the sea area.
I am not against Ibos but I am totally opposed to an Ibo supremacist agenda that does not consider the rights of minority tribes.

aceman88:
1. It is a well deserved appointment (merits/competency)

2. It is our turn to enjoy, after all when Buhari was in power, he favoured his kinsmen with majority of the juicy appointments.

3. Tinubu is only favouring his kinsmen ( height of tribalism)


4. Etc.

Choose one opinion and move on

confusedlady:
@Bolded,
Can you provide a link to this assertion?


As for your question on how Ibo became a bigger nation than the Ikwerre? History abounds with smaller nation states producing bigger states. You need to read up on a political theory called DIALETICS- the counter forces between THESES and ANTITHESES to produce a SYNTHESES. (The theory of two forces coming together in conflict to produce a new force)
Out of this ashes rises the phoenix. A new nation can come out of an old nation.

ScratchDtoto:
Try to run a business or tell your father to run a business I’m not talking about were you smoke cigarettes and kai kai

I mean business worth millions in Nigeria of today then come back and tell me what you think

confusedlady:
Thanks for the Ad hominem. I did not say this. Ikwerre historians said it. I posted a video for you to watch but apparently you did not watch it. You did not watch it,not because you don't have data but because you are stuck on your agenda and what you have been fed for ages.
If you watch the video,you will see a different Ikwerre point of view that Ibos are actually vassals of the Ikwerre. Ikwerre migrated from Benin to their present locations while the Ibos who were vassals to the Ikwerre migrated from under Ikwerre to their present locations and towns. This is the reason for the similarity of language and lexicon.
You need to imbibe a flexible nature and try to read widely. Never maintain a rigid and inflexible idea of African history because much of the history pre writing was passed on by oral traditions.

Please watch.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sHyklv_39s?si=KTMrWeQUaP_TZZzf

confusedlady:
The Ikwerre are saying you are their vassals. That means the Ibo migrated to their present locations from under the Ikwerre,hence the similarity of language and lexicon.....

The Ibo need to give this argument a rest. If they say they are Ikwerre and not Ibo,then the Ibo should leave them alone except the Ibo interests lie in something else which I personally believe they do.

confusedlady:
I need you to understand that I am pointing out the various postulations among Ikwerre historians. The Ikwerre refuse to be yoked with the Ibo,but the Ibo keep on trying to attach themselves to the Ikwerre. Professor Eric in the original post argued that the Ikwerre migrated from Benin but the Ibo keep on arguing that this is not true because of similarity of language,because of this I provided you with another Ikwerre historian who as argued that the Ibo were actually vassals of the Ikwerre and Ibos actually migrated from Ikwerre to their present locations. Moving from the sea to the hinterland to form new towns.

My personal opinion on this issue is that if a people refuse to be associated with you. Accept it as your fate and let them be. It is obvious the Ikwerre refuse to be associated with the Ibo. The Ibo need to accept this and let the Ikwerre people be.

confusedlady:
I hope you know there are other Ikwerre historians that even claim that Ibos migrated out from under the Ikwerre and spread out to their present locations of Owerri,Aba,Onitsha and Enugu.
If you are arguing for the similarity in language and lexicon of Ikwerre and Ibo,the postulation can equally be made that Ibo people migrated from Ikwerre land to their present location.
You may like to watch the video below carefully......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sHyklv_39s?si=ry_FuWPl9iC-NA4b

confusedlady:
Apparently you do not understand what an ASSIMILATION POLICY means. I suggest you read up on this topic. The Ibo policy in the old Eastern region was to continue the British colonialists erroneous policy of thinking Ikwerre were Ibo and as such seeking to assimilate them into Ibo people. Thus Ibo language was introduced as a compulsory lingua franca at the expense of the indigenous Ikwerre language and culture.
The assimilation policy was equally employed by the French colonialists throughout French West Africa to eradicate native culture and languages and produce pseudo black French men. This was the same policy employed by the British colonialists and later by the Ibo Eastern region administration to brain wash and turn Ikwerre people into pseudo Ibo people.

confusedlady:
Did you read the original post at all?
Professor Eric Amadi wrote it in quite simple English that anyone without a hidden agenda should be able to comprehend.
He stated that the Ibo used their numerical superiority and the fact that they controlled the Old Eastern region to dominate and eradicate Ikwerre language and culture. The forced the learning of Ibo as a lingua franca at the expense of the Ikwerre language. In fact they were so good at his ethnicity assimilation that they were able to produce the MAYOR of Port Harcourt. They were also able to use their influence in Enugu to buy up all Ikwerre lands and properties.
Please read below quote if you missed it.

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"Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the
background."

flokii:
Who told you Reno needs appointment?.. why do you people from that part of the country always feel threatened by the truth?
Someone is dishing out facts to you, you're busy derailing the topic.

Going by logic sef.. the worst performing States and their Governors should be the ones to face protest not Lagos State that is performing very well.

Amotolongbo:
Do you want to know the custom and tradition more than the people who practise it?

confusedlady:
Good day. I have been reading a few books on the fraudulent business relationship between Sir Loius Ojukwu and Nnamdi Azikiwe and how they used the Africa continental bank to rip off the old Eastern region. I have also been reading up on the Ibo supremacist agenda of trying to assimilate Ikwerre culture,land and language by the Ibo.
Over the next few days we should have a couple of threads put up.

Amotolongbo:
If you read the article, you would se where it was stated that regent will be appointed to hold the mantle for him till he retires from the military

Fineman2:
Congratulations to the incoming president Kamala Harris

Promise47:
Like I said my people aren't cultist and they will never be all my life has been in agbor and I have never for once seen cultist anyway Good luck peace ✌️ out

TUTU147:
The state government are culprit to the crisis going on in ogwashi uku today, the issue of kingship and chiefs became more tens because of the involvement of the state government.The state government took side with okonjo family without considering the community at large.Obi okonjo supposed use his office as a king to bring peace,but he started dethroning some of the chiefs he met on ground.The major problem today in ogwashi uku is the failure of obi okonjo recognizing chief Mike nwaukoni as the issue of ogwashi uku even when all the courts starting from high court to supreme Court declared him as the iyase of ogwashi uku.Until the king starts working with all the chiefs peacefully, crisis will continue to show it ugly head.

Promise47:
I'm too sure agbor are into cultist but you see ogushi Uku it's the HQ of Cultist in Delta state I know my people dy can't do such Ika south for Life Agbor

ekanx27:
An average Agbor, Ogwashi ukwu man/guy normal hussling is sales of land. They are so cunning and crafty probably because they are close to the East. Always want favour by slandering someone's else. Tufiakwa