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Str8talk:
@ElRazur
No, I don't have any formal education.
However I can read what is written on Naira land and I can also post
It would really be useful if you can focus on my points and prove that
(a) Anatomy has no place in this matter
(b) A homo cannot force himself on another guy

You are slowpoke of 100% high grade smelly shi.t. Your logic is flawed hence why I asked you if you have any formal education. Now let us demolish your bullshi.t, one at a time.

Str8talk:
Homosexuals are no more NORMAL than paedophiles or other vermins.

No you foo.l. Homosexuals are not the same as a Paedophile. It is a general misconception to associate homosexuals with Paedophile. Here, let me give you a rough explanation. Homosexuals are attracted to same sex [hence the word homo] while paedophiles can be attracted to both sexes or one of each, but usually a kid that is not sexually mature.  On that alone, you showed you know little or nothing.

They are really not normal - ANATOMY and the process of PROCREATION are enough evidence for this

Funny enough, I have "Principles of Anatomy and Physiology. Grabwoski and Torta" that I have been reading lately in front of me. Please explain to me why there is an anatomical differences between a heterosexual and a homosexual. From what I can see, there is nothing to suggest so by those who know better than you and me. But may be you know something I dont.

We need to cull them. They will fester like rats if we give them any space

Yeah cull them why not? After all, you lack the common sense to realise that they are humans. I mean once you finish that, what is there to stop you from culling Hausas? Igbo? Fulanis? Oh wait, someone had an idea like that before, his name was Hitler. What an idio.t.

By the way, a straight guy should be wary of homos. They are looking for more people to turn into perverts. Otherwise why woukd they be looking for young children to adopt.

I am straight and no I have no irrational or illogical fear of homosexual.

Again you showed how idiotic you are. You cannot "catch" homosexuality, it is something one is born with. You know the same way some people like slim ladies, while other prefer fat bald men? It is the same principle. It is not a choice one just wake up one day to make.

And of course what makes you think a homo will not force himself on another guy, straight or not.

Why do you think of that? Are you insecure in your own sexuality? No, homosexuals are people like you and me, they do not deserve all this cra.p you are mentioning. Period. As a heterosexual, do you go around to "jump" on everyone? Omo you need help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A62027697

Appears to be a few people talking about it on twitter.

Kobojunkie:
Are the haitians asking toi be resettled or something?

Not at all, but trust politicians to use it for their public appeal.

Str8talk:
Homosexuals are no more NORMAL than paedophiles or other vermins.

They are really not normal - ANATOMY and the process of PROCREATION are enough evidence for this

We need to cull them. They will fester like rats if we give them any space

By the way, a straight guy should be wary of homos. They are looking for more people to turn into perverts. Otherwise why woukd they be looking for young children to adopt.

And of course what makes you think a homo will not force himself on another guy, straight or not.

What a load of drivel. Do you have any formal education at all?

mama-gee:
Homosexuals need to get lost already,
they are our least problem, roaming around with
their indecency shouldn't be the right representation for Nigerians.

It is amazing that you can take some people abroad, but you can never take the idioti.c Nigerian mentality out of them.


Speaking of indecency, who are you to be the judge when you dress like this? [assuming it is you]

yeswecan:
I never compared Nigeria to USA, i was trying  make a point that relief materials have no bearing on the economy sending them no matter how big or small the country is and you know this ElRazur

I suggest you read your own post again.

Whatever the point is, I am of the belief that we should remove the spec in our eye at home, before offering to remove the log in Haiti's eyes.

aloy*emeka:
Reports reaching my desk now said that security is beefed up in Asaba, Onitsha, Umuahia  and Aba.  Delta state governor is considering a curfew at Asaba from 6pm until things settle down. The whole Onitsha barrack are on the street, armed to the teeth especially around the hausa neighborhoods.

And your point is? Gosh get over yourself, you aint no news source ffs.

Beaf:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

Funny guy. But Kenya can provide relief.

My concern is with Nigeria, not Kenya, not USA or any nation who have provided aid to Haiti so far.

yeswecan:
You can do more than that ElRazur First I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that Government don't  AND will never go to the street to share money or food  to anybody except during disasters labeled "relief material". Your logic is laughable; as empty as saying the Americans should channel their funds to those loosing their jobs instead of sending relief materials to Haiti.  Sure the sum spent on Haitians can help some poor Americans. . . The relief materials has no bearing on the country's economy in any way, even the poorest Nation can send relief materials

You are missing the point. No surprise there.

They money, resources etc used in getting those "relief materials" can be channelled to helping Nigerians who really are in need. That is the point.

Comparing America with Nigeria is just plain silly. We are not in the same league, what they can afford to do or don't do. . . We cant. Period. So for the sake of common sense, quit comparing your toilet of a nation to America.

bawomolo:
just some fine chica from myspace http://www.myspace.com/jbaby8827
so what are you doing to stop this homosexual plague?

Oh cool. Thought it was you.

I have no problem with homosexuals. It means more women for me. All those people denying and showing all sorts of illogical phobias can't stop the inevitable. Homosexuals are here and they are here to stay.

bawomolo:
word, the last thing we want to happen is sodom and gomorrah in the paradise called sub-saharran africa.

Who is that in your profile?

otawa:
there you go.

who define whats unstable?

what is exactly on unstable?

What a dumb question. How about you define what is stable or a stable nation?

Repost. Old news. Been done before. Tell me something new. Mod please lock this repeat thread.

Pfft a meet up without inputs of Sagamite, Lady T and Elrazur is nothing but a waste of time. We had a meet and it was the bomb. I will eat my hat if you guys can pull it off without us.

selingel:
The so-called Arewa Forum needs to wake up and take the bull by the horn, by ensuring that their governors are made accountable to their subjects. This attitude of always contesting issues with the south, is not the problem of the nation. They (the north) are the problem of the nation. Look at what is happening in Jos; that is the situation of Nigeria today.

It is good to point fingers. Since when did accountability becomes the norm at home?

ElRazur:
No I say we concentrate on helping haiti. That way the whole world will think we are big dogs and wont notice our internal problems.

Read here. It all makes perfect sense.



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-382952.0.html

Beaf:
^
You have a way of lying to yourself. Is it a family thing?

Contradiction:
http://www.google.co.uk/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=contradiction

Ad Hominem
http://www.google.co.uk/dictionary?q=ad%20hominem&hl=en&langpair=en|en&spell=1&oi=spell

Beaf:
You just love the sound of your stupidity and inferior arguments. Is it genetic?
You've beaten yourself already. A grown man who doesn't know Liberia, but gives it as an example. Olodo!

Once again you have contradicted yourself. You just said I am childish, but then result to the above? Seriously, please engage your brain. I pity the future of Nigeria.

Beaf:
I seriously don't have the time to argue with ElRazur. But he keeps going from thread to thread making childish attack's and sitting on this thread like Haiti people have done him something.
I really believe that I would be unsafe in the real dimension as you put it.

More like you made a thread out of feeling like a little dog because you are from Nigeria, who is apparently a Giant. You seem to be upset with the fact that Senegal is offering help and Nigeria is doing nothing. You wanted to feel like a big dog and will go to any length to defend your stupidi.ty. On the other hand, I am pointing out the flaws in your argument and you clearly cannot countered them.  For example, Nigeria should focus on internal issues than trying to be a big dog etc.

Now the above is a more accurate version of events.



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Arsenal beat Bolton 2-0.

In Arsene we trust.

9jaganja:
Knock it off kids , Seriously must we always fight? I bet many of you guys would have started throwing punches if you guys were talking to yourselves like these in real dimension. Just commend the Senegalese president for a good act.

Not yet. I am enjoying this spat with Beaf. He is illogical and I plan to beat him down with his own bullshi.t.

Beaf:
You must learn to tackle issue that are within your capacity.
Your beggars at Oju'rin in Mushin are the very same ones being deported, because they have options to begging.

. . .Using other peoples fathers health and death as examples. . . Boy, you've really got nothing between your ears, are you on drugs?

Again you make no sense. If you just said "You must learn to tackle issue that are within your capacity." why are you then advocating we go and offer help outside? You are contradicting yourself. But ride on. I am enjoying the show.

"Your beggars at Oju'rin in Mushin are the very same ones being deported, because they have options to begging."

What does that even mean? You mean they are deported because they have no option either than to beg? I need you to please clarify I really do not speak monkeys.

I gave you an example closer to home. I would have had brains to do that in the first place? Don't you think? Seriously, how do you think? Again please engage your brain. You know when I say to you that you really do not know how to debate? You just showed that with your inconsistencies, contradictions and at best absolute gibberish.  Please feel free to re-explain yourself. I am more than happy to give you a reply.

monkeyleg:
This is why we need a good gorvenment. Nigeria is froth with all sorts of injustice. Why must people be terrorised because of their religion or the part of the country they come from?

No I say we concentrate on helping haiti. That way the whole world will think we are big dogs and wont notice our internal problems.

Beaf:
If you have been to the Caribbean, you would have noticed that mosquito's are not a problem there.
Sending other goods will not make us any poorer. As I said above, Nigeria's problems cannot be resolved with money, but with commonsense; therefore, helping Haiti will not hit us economically, not at all. In fact it will cost less than a grain of sand in relation to our economic size.

You really are full of it. Relief materials that goes to different part of the world can vary. No point giving mosquito net to where it is not needed. The explanation I gave as par Relief material was an illustration, but you clearly need this explained to you again. Please engage brain.

Beaf:
^
Are Nigerians begging for food and clothing? Things are tough, but we aren't begging.
A majority of countries donating are not rich Western countries. The things we can donate to Haiti are things money can buy; whereas, commonsense not money will solve our internal issues. Donating to Haiti and saving lives will not make Nigerians any poorer than we are.

Right some key word here: Common sense. Allow me to use that common sense to answer your question and point out the lack of common sense in your logic.

Kano street is popular for the beggars there. Oju'rin at Mushin is another place where there folks stay. You see, there are plenty of them like that in Lagos alone,  and many more across Nigeria. These people are not seen - even though there are there physically - because they do not have a voice. These folks live everyday without knowing where their next meal will come from etc. To even try and ask "Are Nigerians begging for food and clothing" is an insult to these kind of people and an lack of simple common sense from you.

Common sense will suggest these folks need it more. Common sense suggest Nigeria should look after these people before even thinking about trying to be a big dog outside, but clearly, your type lack the sense to see all of these.

Let me use another example that is close to home. If your dad is about to die in the village, but a fund for a particular medicine will save his life, will you (a) Scramble as fast as you can to get the fund and medicine to him or (b) Go loan your neighbour the money?

Clearly from using your logic and lack of common sense, you will go for option (b). What a good son your dad must think of you. You see, right now, those who are in need in Nigeria will feel the same way if Nigeria offers any kind of help towards Haiti. Period.

Badriyyah:
LoL, Correct me if I am wrong, did you say offer OUR red cross, military, donate food and clothing?  Is that not what Nigerians have been begging for all these years Haiti is going to be fine, millions of people around the world are donating, western countries are providing services. Nigeria is better off paying attention to it's internal crisis at this time. If our country can't offer it's people something, you expect it to work miracles on another country? WoW, Stop trying to put us on the level as many Western countries, because we're not. If we work hard and focus on the people in our country, we will be able to offer the people of Haiti something in the future,

Bingo. What I have been saying all along. Some people just amazes me here.

yeswecan:
We can offer relief materials, money and even kind gestures as Beaf pointed out.

Relief material usually invokes ready to eat meals, water, bedding and basic shelter -i.e tent and mosquito nets.

Now tell me how many Nigerians in Nigeria can make do with that? Millions? No?  How come we aint giving no relief materials or gesture to our own people? Does it make more sense to offer those to outsiders than people at home? Don't forget, it will cost more money to take these things down to haiti in the first place. Where is this money coming from?

yeswecan:
Please name one country without an internal problem.

Nigeria's own is clearly endemic and ever-on going.

Please explain to me what help you want us to offer?

PapaBrowne:
El Razuur,
This your argument does not hold water at all. That Nigeria has internal issues does not in anyway stop us from extending a hand to a nation in distress.

As far as I know, New York currently has a major problem with homelessness. I have seen more more homeless people on the streets of New York than I see in most Nigerian cities except maybe Lagos. The problem is so bad in this icy winter period as the homeless folks have almost nowhere to really take cover from the cold.

Now, should New York City now say, "hey, we gat our own problems, we really can't help Haiti until we solve this issue of homelessness".
That would be immoral. And that is what you are advocating.

Every nation has issues. That hasn't stopped them from assisting Haiti. Senegal has issues, yet they are making such a generous offer.
Nigeria as a nation should show solidarity with Haiti and make bold to assist Haiti in any form whatsoever.

Now take Nigeria's homelessness figure and compare to that of the US and your arguments falls apart. Take how advance USA is and compare to Nigeria and you have no arguments. Compare the available manpower to the US with that of Nigeria and tell me if you still think you have a point.

Nigeria is not Senegal. Apple and oranges please.Take each nation and examine the situation and state of affairs they are in.

Speaking of helping haiti, please explain to me what kind of help Nigeria should offer?

Badriyyah:
Why should Nigeria offer anything?? Have you asked how these people would cope in Nigeria? Who is going to provide the homes, jobs, etc? Or do you want them to come and live in poverty? Nigeria is a baby nation that still has to sort itself out, if Senegal feels comfortable with accepting them, then fine. Nigeria can't afford to take in more people at this time.

The one's who should accept responsibility are the idiots who put them there in the first place. France should go and carry their people.

Just ask these people [Those advocating for Nigeria to help] what kind of help they would want Nigeria to offer? I am of the belief that any help offered can be applied to the masses back home in Nigeria that really needs it. Period. Ask them this and none of them can come out to give a specific help we should offer as a nation.

Beaf:
You presented rambling thoughts and no coherent arguments.
I'm wondering why you ran off earlier only to attack me on another thread?

You know, I have refrained from cutting you down to size and actually playing along with you. If you are too dimwitted to understand my points, please ask again. I have re-explained my points to you over so what is there not to understand?

Again I haven't attacked you. It is not surprising you called the slightest of "questioning your stance" as an attack. Give me a break, when I do you will know. I merely pointed at the inconsistency in your approach. You want us to support Haiti at the expense of the internal problems we have, yet in another thread you wanted a solution to the internal problems. So pardon me for pointing it out. Surely, if you have enough grasp of how to debate, this won't be hard to comprehend? May be not.

Only a foo.l ignores the problem in their own home and then goes off to solve another man's.

yeswecan:
I don't think Nigeria should be defined by her correct state especially on such issues and YES  Nigeria as a nation can help, it doesn't stop us from moving forward in any way. We can send a signal just like Senegal or relief materials.

Okay. Read my arguments and points I presented to beaf. I am watching Arsenal and wont wanna keep going round in circle.

In the mean time, please specify what kind of help Nigeria as a nation should offer and I will tell you where that help can be directed in Nigeria.

yeswecan:
Am against the notion that NIGERIANS can't help because we have internal problems. I mean even Lady Gaga made donations; i will donate if there is a medium to do so. No country is perfect, most of the countries making donations have internal problems i tell you. Haitians are black Africans we have to send a clear message to them.

Oga get it right please. Nigerians as an individual can help. However, Nigeria as a nation cannot help until we move away from our current state.