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This is bullshhhhitttt. Gosh.

Slug it out?

Omo, I carry gun the size of lil bow wow when it comes to pro evo. You can't slug anything out with me. I am THAT GOOD. Go play teeboy7 and then you may have a chance with me.

D = Djourou
A = Almunia
Y = ?
O = O'Leary (1973-1993 as Arsenal player)
K = Koscienly
A = Arshavin
N = Nigel Winterburn
U = ?

The guy is more Arsenal than he realises.

One go think say Dayokanu is an Arsenal supporter in denial. He appears to spend more time here than what  ever team e supports.

It is okay to be a gunner. Just come out and say so.

Sorry I drink only malt lol. No be shayo type of guy.

Bkbabe.

One, I did mention the word IF at the very start of my post.

Two, anyone with a bit of common sense can see why your post may be taken as such. (something you alluded to already)

Three, no need to reply to your insult and delusions. You already pointed out and admitted that your post may be seen as a reply to my original post. I think that is the issue right there.

Four, if you comments ain't directed at me like you are claiming, here is my apology - I apologize.


O4kaa
It gets tiring just reading your post at times.

Let me make it clear that despite your egoism and need to claim there is "beef" between us, I have no problem with you. If you come London anytime, halla at me make we paint town red. And if na me come naija, you owe me a bottle of malt and the finest aboki suya.

bk.babe97y:
No surprises here. . . Ok I lie . . .

Well, some folks just dont understand how much some of us love Nigeria and anything Nigeria related.

Some fools just spoil it for the rest of yall.

Impressive video!

Subliminal shots is a weakness

If you disagree with what I mentioned, Abeg be bold enough to challenge it.

I love naija but I am not blinded by patriotism not to call a spade, a spade.

All I said was this oyinbo boy dey better than sky b when it comes to swagger. I never said he is better than all naija artist. Sucks, when emotion gets the better of people at times.

agabaI23:
Abeg no disrespect our musicians.

As for try he try but pass Naija singer? where him swag dey?

Abeg comot for here. The guy get swagga and yes, he get am pass some naija musician. Sky B comes to mind.

Give credit, where credit due ma broda. The guy smash am.

How come folks like you cannot call a spade a spade?

He received information that was taken illegally, and now he appears to be ready to use it to hold justice and truth to ransom. The very thing he claimed to be fighting for in the first place via disclosing sensitive data. Wtf!

He just released into public domain, information that can be potentially used by terrorist etc but I guess this is fine by you isnt?

It will be interesting to see how he gets out of the catch 22 he is fast finding himself. Only time will tell.

Oh dear Ogun laka aye, please deliver me from men with tiny minds.

My post was laced with sarcasm. It is mainly adding the rhetoric Ahmadenajad has suggested directly or indirectly over the years.   

It is bizarre that this one goes over your head.  Ain't you suppose to be smart? (at least that is what you want us to believe)

So Julian Assange is refusing to go to Sweden to answer the case against him of sexual molestation/rape? Surely, he's got nothing to hide.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11921080

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange will fight attempts to take him to Sweden to face rape allegations, his lawyer said.

Mark Stephens told the BBC that legal moves against his client seemed to be a "political stunt" by a state that allowed US rendition flights.

He warned Wikileaks could release more secrets in a bid to protect itself.

A Swedish arrest warrant for Mr Assange was issued on Thursday. It comes amid the phased Wikileaks release of some 250,000 US diplomatic secret messages.

The warrant to interview the journalist - thought currently to be in the UK - concerns alleged sexual crimes during a visit to Sweden in August.

But Mr Stephens told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the entire case against Mr Assange had been dropped by Sweden's chief prosecutor in September.

He said it was only "after the intervention of a Swedish politician" that a new prosecutor in Gothenburg - not Stockholm, where his client and two women had been - began a new case.

It resulted in the current warrants, and an Interpol notice being issued. His client denies the allegations.

So he is now using the data that was illegally handed to him as a bargain chip so as not to go to Sweden to face trial?

Smh.

A travel down memory lane.

http://rap.about.com/od/toppicks/tp/10BestHipHopBattles.htm

2-1

1-0

Bayern Munich V AS Roma for the above. I used Bayern Munich and just won all games lol


Arsenal 2 - Barca 0

No be Messi fit save this guy from my Arsenal beating. lol.


Borca Juniors 0 Athletico Madrid 0

His team was the batter one, but na draw e fit manage. lol


Valencia 0 Man City 2

This is the only game he won so far.


Stats for today.

Played 5
ElRazur won 3
Teeboy won 1
Draw 1

ElRazur lost 0

Teeboy lost 3

Lol.

Go get some more practice. I dey come joor.

Please say something more meaningful.

Emagweali is intelligent.

His claims were misleading

Records are now being set straight.


Deal with it.

So I would have been deemed more of a Yoruba if I have joined in to bashing other people who are simply Nigerians?


It is true, discriminatory of this type is nothing but ignorance. smh.

So in other words, your argument get ripped apart and you have nothing worth while posting. Nice.

There are many website claiming to invent existing technology and what not, the UK is powerless to do anything as some are hosted in nations where UK cannot do anything.

Again simple common sense, no one get arrested for claiming they invented something. Problem arises when similar products are now made and market for commercial reasons. Emageali made verbal claims and hence why there wasnt much trouble.

Dude stop letting your emotions get the better of you. Your hero appeared to have mislead people with his claims and now records are being set straight. Please deal with it.

RSA:
I said this American bastarrds are evil and I am sticking to those words.
I am using 'their ' technology because I traded with them,they have my blass azz African money and I have 'their' evil  technology.Fair deal don't you think?

Do you not have a moral conscious? No? Oh I get it, it is good to bash the good old white man and claim they have your money for their technology. What an utter rubbish. Surely, there are more fun things to do in the cave? Smh.

And yes I am a descended of great Africans and I am very proud of it,I know who I am and where I am from.I speak 8 great African languages that have a long and great history,I am proudly African,So Sir if you though my Africanese emabarraces me then think again.

Means what to me? I am embarrassed you are talking crap and you ain't even realising your own prejudices can be used against you.

Your goverment blew up twin towers,created Osama Bin Laden,whose family have ties with Bush's family.They asked Osama to make couple of tapes and walaaa! they went on to practice or test their weapons in Afghanistan because they where the easy targets and then went on to finnish the job in Iraq.Killing hundreds of thousands even millions innicent people so that they could steal their oil.Evil bastardss.

Do you have any proof? Or just further garbage you are posting?

What is your nation doing to combat AIDS that have ravaged your country so bad. Is it not, 6 or more in SOuth African is infected with HIV? I have a feeling that most of the drugs given to help combat this was made in a white man laboratory.

Again you see how it is easy to apply the same miscalculations to you and just show you how stuuuupid your view points are?

Please post something more sensible.

Faeb:
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What question went unanswered, the daft Windows 7 one? Abeg go and drink tea jare!
If you claim to be in agreement with me, why are we arguing, or you think I should give you a pat on the head for tearing down Emeagwali, while not having any understanding of how Intellectual Property matters are dealt with?

. . .Every Tom wants to join a mob and and bay for blood.

Seem you are running out of steam. Let me give you something to talk about.

I asked you to point me to a law that say I cannot verbally make claim that I invented something.

This is what Emageali has done over the years. You accepted this in your very own statement, but seem to have a problem when authorities are coming out and demolishing his claims of inventing this and that for them.

To illustrate this, I gave you several examples using MS W7 that I can lay claim to invent it and not be in trouble, but will be in trouble if I now create a program for commercial purpose that is based on or copied from W7 source code.

Again I gave you further illustrations using the iconic Ak47 and Playstation portables. Something that appears to go over your head.


Just in case you are not getting it, here is a final break down in simple English:

Emaegwali made verbal claims,  he got away with it. When attention was drawn to him, his claims were busted as misleading. 

You see no one is doubting his intelligence, but we doubt his claims (which has been shown to be misleading and you accept this)


Now tell me again, what is your problem?

Sweet T:
I bet you are not, you are even worse. Discriminating my @$$. It's only one section of the country that has put Nigeria to shame in the past few months by Kidnapping, Fraud etc. Are people that reside in this region Hausas or Fulani? This Butt breath is complaining of Discriminations.

People like you miss the big picture most times. **Sigh**

I do not need to prove to you what I am and what I ain't.

I'm in the UK and 90% of the people I come across that do yahoo yahoo are Yorubas. Do you think this is a fair representation of Yorubas in general?

Look, let me keep it simple. The Authorities abroad do not see igbo, hausa,yoruba or fulani. They see a Nigerian. That is the point you appeared to be missing.

Please explain to me as to how your campaign of discrimination will help the matter at hand? Your approach is very crude.

Faeb:
Dude, sometimes people make arguments that are so flawed that there is no point engaging. Its like if you are a good chess player and someone who doesn't know the basic strategies challenges you, you laugh and walk off. Your arguments were horribly flawed, I mean really horribly.

Please, look up "Intellectual Property" and deal with this wretched statement you made:

How could a person making statements like the above possibly think they have what it takes to pull a man like Emeagwali down, regardless of his lies and deceptions?
I repeat, Emeagwali has something that is highly valued in nations that know where they are going. He has a damn good brain.

I see my question goes unanswered. Please point me to where a law says I cannot lay claim verbally to inventing the playstation portable? I bet you cannot do this.

You are not a chess player, your point and manner of debating shows this already. Your debates are nothing but pure emotions lacking logic.


See what I mean as to how you are weak to try and counter my view points? Who is trying to bring him down? I am merely stating what is in the news and general acceptance. In your own words you stated that:

"There is no doubt that he has made several exagerations, some gross; but the fact remains that he is gifted."

I stated exactly the same thing but you seem to have a problem with me. Ouch, the irony.

If you agree that "he made several exaggerations" why are you blind to see my point? Oh I get it, you are blinded by emotions that's why!

AllahuAkbar. Now, let's go bomb the Jewish-state and push them into the sea.   We all know it is the right thing to do.

In more important news, I now use made-in-Swiss toilet paper to wipe my yansh. Very comfy and soft I tell you.

Sweet T:
You must be high on expired crack cocaine, If all your Ibo brothers quit committing fraud they wouldn't mention Nigeria with 419 attached and we wouldn't have to worry about which ethic did what. You need to call a family meeting and tell your folks to train their children properly. This Tobichukwu or whatever his name is was trained by his father an elder Ibo man who was heavily into 419 himself according to America's most wanted.

Another meaningless post.

I am not igbo, but thanks for thinking I am one. It takes nothing away from me. 

Do you really have anything worthy to add part from your discriminating post? 

Faeb:
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Thanks man, I 100% agree with you that thats the way to go.

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you. But seriously, you havent the slightest clue what you are talking about. Don't be offended, please.

Emeagwali has been a very public face for decades. He has been on the cover of Time Magazine, dude, his claims have been out there for all to see. ExxonMobile is not some Dugbe market company, such companies know wagwan long before the man on the streets learns about it; a multi-national is a mini country.

Emeagwali has only been dumped because his own country spat on him. You can call him liar, wayward or anything, but he is extremly intelligent.
In countries with a sense of direction, intelligence is gold.

In  debates around here, it is all well and good to score a brownies points while not refuting the points raised.  You sir, are doing the same thing right now.

You claimed I do not know what I am talking about, yet you are yet to defend against what I said. Smh. 

Like I mentioned to you, anyone can lay claim to inventing anything if the public are gullible enough to believe the person. There is no law to my knowledge stopping me from saying I invented the AK47 and I helped the Russian with it.   Do you not understand this?   

Emeagwali did just this. He did it for years and managed to get away with it.   

I noted you are now quick to say he is intelligent etc. Who says he isn't? His intelligence probably contributed to why he got away with making massive and misleading claims in the first place.

So he appeared on the front of Time magazine and that means what to the point at hand?  Bart Simpson ( a fictional character) Elvis (Known for his love for drugs) etc also appeared in the Times in the past, so boo hoo cry me a river.


The fact remains, anyone can make a claim to inventing anything and get away with it. How many times, con-men have been celebrated without the majority of the public being aware in history?    Please drop your straw-man argument.  Emagwali appeared to have made misleading claims and now the records are been set straight, so what is your problem?

I see your points on the Biggie v Pac thing. We do not know for sure the real details (I am aware the Police office who allegedly shot him is known and what not) But, we cannot ignore that the "Beefs" do not play a part.


As part the point your raised, I already covered them by saying ". . . where some one must announce his arrival in the music industry via dissing another established name. " Don't get me wrong your points are valids in some aspect and at the same time, it will be a bit of a generalisation to suggest all beefs are manufactured. I very much doubt the examples I listed are. In recent memory, Jigga and Nas beef was more an ego thing. Both had it all going on well for them before the beef etc.

Again I have to stress that I agree with you. Lol@soul ja boy.


Now the question is, do you think it is good for hip hop as a form of marketing gimmick?

Bluetooth

People barely get involve in each other's business here. It is a social thing and probably not a good one in my opinion.

As of yesterday or so, it was in the paper that a 72 year old man collapsed on the road side here in London (In the snow ffs) and he was there for several hours, despite people walking past and people driving past. Eventually, someone stopped and he was taken to hospital, his temperature dropped to around 27degree (Normal human body is around 35.6 - 37.4 or so)

So there you go. It is a "Social thing".


Once you hear gun shots a few times, live in a high crime area, you will soon learn to keep your own safety paramount first.

Faeb:
Guy, look up "Intellectual Property." You simply don't know what you are talking about.

All big companies maintain departments and lawyers that manage their portfolio in micro detail. Go mess around with a patent that remotely resembles anything that ExxonMobil has in its portfolio and see how long it takes to recieve a letter from their lawyers in English only Soyinka can deal with.
Patent litigations in the US cost hundreds of millions and ExxonMobil aren't so daft that they play games with that sort of money and become a cash cow for patent trolls.

Smh.

Dude, I respect the fact that you are keen on defending Emeagwali.  Please read what I am saying and try to comprehend before you have a go at me, sir.

If I remember correctly, his claims were he "helped" invented some of the technology they use. As far as IP goes, you can claim to "help invent" as long as you do not actually go out and infringe on such technologies via making something similar.

You see as it stand, I can present a lecture and claim to invent Microsoft Windows 7 program, but I will be looking for trouble if I now make an OS based on Windows 7.


Over all, Emeagwali was able to get around for a long time with his claims, and once it was made known to the authorities they issued a statement rejecting his claims. Now, if he goes on making those claims, then he may be in trouble.   You see no company is out there listening to what people say, but they do have lawyers who keep an eye on the patent office to see if people are infringing on existing patent etc.  Gosh.


Please calm down before you have a go again. Thanks.

Why is the mod not actively closing or removing shiiiiitttt like this? But instead those of us who complain about it appears to get banned for venting our frustration.


@OP you probably have a low IQ to be honest. The authorities do not see an "Igbo criminal" or "Yoruba conmen" but some one who is Nigerian and broke the law. How hard is it to understand this?

ExxonMobil are there to make money, and not to keep tabs on people claiming they invented something for them.

It is not uncommon here in the UK to hear con-men who lay claim to be member of the royal family and con people out of money. Are you saying you expect the royal family for example, to go out of their way to verify every one? They will probably issue a statement when such person is brought to their attention lol

It appears exconmobil did just that in this case. Issued a statement when they were aware of Emeagwali claims.

It is clear to see that loads of poster here appear to be keen on beef and war of words of some kind. I am just wondering if people can give an insight as to why the interest in this pure form of lyrical hatred and dislike is gaining momentum?

Don't get me wrong, I was a former fan of beef from the days of Grand Master Flash using subtle diss to aim shots at rival etc down to Tupac and Biggie which eventually turned ugly in real life more or less. I think the turning point for me was when I heard Tupac died and beef wasn't just something I wanted to be a part of any more.

Fast forward some years down and it was Nas and JayZ, I have to say I was once again excited, but the fear it may turned ugly again one again killed the excitement for me. As it stand so far, there is zero interest in beef for me any more.

Now, it appear that it is taking hold of naija music scene where some one must announce his arrival in the music industry via dissing another established name.

While "dissing" is not new to the Nigerian music scene, with peeps like Sunny Ade and Ebenezer Obey, Barrister and Kollington, Obesere and Kwam 1 all taking subliminal shots at each other.

I feel the new generation now are much more bolder and more aggressive in their approach. One thing that baffles me is that there appears to be more and more interest than ever, and with little care that it may actually turn ugly.

Anyway, I guess what I am trying to ask is that why do you like beefs in Hiphop?

I think people are probably not used to this concept of people dying and what not.

I used to post on one of the biggest forum in the UK. One of the members there died and his death was very different from this. He had a cancer of some sort that spreads through his body and eventually killed him.  What made his death unusual was that during his end period, he was on the forum posting message and explaining his inner feelings etc. 

I think one of his last post read something along the lines of ".   .   .  the Doctors and specialist did all they could now, and it appears that there is really nothing to do other than wait.   .   ."     

He died in his sleep some few hours after posting that.      After his death, there wasn't any special nomination or anything. People die all the time and it is important to try an accept that.

What was however done on that forum was that his thread was cleaned up (That is, needless comments removed) and archived in the forum. It is still there for anyone to read till today.

His family later logged on and thanked the forum, and that was it. Life goes on.




In my own opinion, let the guy be at peace. It is a tragedy but we need to move on. There is no need for an over-elaborate remembrance, no need for a posthumous award because if he was alive would the so called "award" given out here would have been awarded to him? I very much doubt it.  There are people who have died and happen to be a member here and we just do not know about it.     

My two cents.

tpia1:
hmm, so many unanswered questions.

if he came to the US @ 13, how did he manage to graduate so quickly and start his masters at 21. Even in nigeria things rarely move that fast these days.

was he in some kind of special or gifted program? I guess if he graduated high school @ 18, and took a three year degree course, it's possible.

are any of his siblings here on nl?

why did he hold such strong views about certain issues? Rather unusual for that age but i could be wrong.

i wasnt close to him but i think i might have some indirect ties to some of his extended family, since i have relations from his area [oyo side]. Not blood ties though.


strangely enough, i lost one of the relations in question, ages ago. Weird circumstances. Was a blow at the time and it still is.


o ga sha.

i think the long and short of the matter is we should just fear God.

In the interest of peace, it may be worth just letting some of your questions go.  Trust me.

**breathe a sigh of relief**