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You've not said anything at all. What i said in the quote is the plain history of women popularly wearing trousers. It has nothing to do with Bible or religion or myself. It's just what happened, what made trousers become popular among women. You don't fight the facts, you either research to confirm them or use them. Roaming about concerning other clothing is a cheap distraction and fallacy. The discussion is about trousers. Normal women just began to wear trousers openly less than 100 years ago. Get your facts straight and stop roaming.

"Normal" women wore trousers centuries before Christ and they've started wearing them again. The fact remains that there is nothing biblical against trousers. Only your prejudices.

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i laugh in Naira. What you females don't understand is that the trousers expose you more than any decent skirt will. The average man has seen you already in his imagination. He just has to throway face and focus

The perverted men who think in this manner will imagine whatever they want to even if a woman is dressed in a tent. Even women in purdah are raped if perverts are given the opportunity. As a true Christian, one should focus one's thoughts or other things or divert one's gaze. Do you really think it is only men who are visually tempted?

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i don't even know where i left off with this.
Your argument states categorically that Amazons are the females who wore trousers earlier. We all know many women just started wearing trousers about 50 to 70 years ago; Basically after the World War, when poverty drove women out to do men's work. Coupled with the Industrial Revolution.
If we rest on your argument, amazons were either myth or the very people Deut 22:5 says not to copy if we follow the interpretation of the pastor in the OP. So any of the ways, it is still not For but Against.

There has always been poverty and it will always exist. Women have also done a lot of so called men's work over the centuries. A lot of women have not only gone to war, tilled farms, fended for their families jwhen their husbands were dead, incapitated or away but lead battles over the centuries in all the continents. You can interpret the bible verse as you please but there is no reference to trousers as male garments in any scripture at all. If you consider trousers unholy for women, men should also not wear tunics or kaftans which are gowns. God did not design clothing. Man (both sexes) did that to cover his shame after eating the forbidden fruit.

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The BOLD is the truth you should focus on.

The only thing to focus on there is the word "Preferred". Preference implies comfort. Before the 20th century, there were no modern toilets or proper feminine hygiene products so a woman who had to pee or was menstruating in transit would have a very hard time getting off her trousers to go to toilet. That would inform the need to wear something she could lift easily. Today, a woman is less likely to have that challenge. She may also prefer to put on clothing that would be less likely to expose her private parts and undergarments. Many girls have had some men try to put their hands up their skirts or have been molested simply because they were wearing gowns or skirts, no matter how long or shapeless they are.

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The Amazons you seem to be banking on are myth. That on the side, the point remains that the term "Amazon" refers to strong women, uncommon women like men. That is the matured class of tomboys. They are people that do things that most women do not and would not do. They do things that men do. So if we take the OP's video serious, they are wrong. The woman should not be an Amazon(female warrior/soldier) is the translation the pastor is suggesting. So you cannot use them as the religious or christian example. They were not the standard of women dressing, past or present or future.

Your argument does not remove the fact that trousers were designed as unisex garments and as such, there is nothing wrong with a woman wearing trousers. Human beings set standards according to what they find suitable or comfortable at the time. In biblical days, men wore gowns. In the time of Jesus, it was a tunic which was a gown. Are you saying it was wrong for men to put on what is perceived as female clothing today?

The problem of many Christians today is that we are a lot like the Pharisees looking for trivial outwardly signs to fault our Christian brethren rather than focusing on the heart and true intentions.

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In your study, you quoted that the first recorded trousers worn by women was by amazons. Anyone knows that amazons are like tomboys, they do what boys or men do. The inference is clearly that trousers were originally mens garment. Period.

You are just inferring to make it seem like you are correct. The quote is that it was originally worn by both sexes. Also, please educate yourself properly. Amazons were not tomboys but an elite group of very well trained warrior women.

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Exactly. Anyway one looks at it, it backfires on the argument for trousers. Even the preacher in the youtube video described the word "man" as soldier. So if they are saying trousers was soldiers clothing, then the woman still should not wear soldiers clothing, Amazon or Alibaba.

It is very simple. Trousers were designed for comfort during horseback riding, right? For centuries, mostly men went to war while women stayed at home nuturing their offspring so women preferred to wear feminine flowing clothing. Today, both men and women go to war and horses are hardly used as means of transport. Women are however far more active and mobile than before moving long distance to work then come back home to do other activities, They will require clothing that makes them move freely with comfort. Trousers do that.

For me, as long as trousers are not too form fitting (this applies all clothing) and a woman cannot be mistaken for a man and vice versa, there is nothing wrong with them. Let every man work out his own salvation.

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From your link, it clearly showed that trousers belong to the masculine gender. A few quotes.

"Despite being worn by both sexes in ancient times, trousers were a “masculine” garment for hundreds of years. Instead, women wore long, voluminous skirts.

But, in the nineteenth century, women started wearing a form of trousers again. These were worn only for horse riding, although they wore full skirts on top of them to keep them hidden.

By the 1880s, women in the West finally started wearing trousers for leisure activities. They were safer to wear when cycling, as the trousers were far less likely to get caught in the wheels. They also allowed greater freedom of movement. Additionally, they were considered healthier to wear than the cumbersome skirts they usually wore.

Yet, despite their increasing popularity, trousers weren’t considered acceptable women’s attire until the 1970s."


BTW, trousers were worn in the Bible far before your link dates.

The question is whether trousers were designed originally for men or women. They were originally unisex garments. Period.

The first recorded reports of trousers were made by sixth century BC Greek geographers. They noted the appearance of Persian, Eastern and Central Asian horse riders. The comfort they provided from extended periods on horseback made trousers a practical choice.

Images of male and female horse riders wearing trousers can be found on ancient ceramics. You can see an example of this on the vase to the left, depicting an Amazon woman. - A brief history of trousers.

I learnt to swim, float and get to the deep end of a 6ft pool within 2 weeks at the age of 24. It just takes determination.

Are you sure that puppy killed them all or they died of something else?

Great for her! Happy Married Life!

Minna used to have 24hr power supply just 15yrs ago. How this country has deteriorated! SMH!

Wow! Spitting image of her mum.

Please where is the location?

I believe we can easily do 20 million bottles in Lagos but this is still a very worthy effort especially if it can become a monthly exercise.

Mizflo:
Please I need your advice. I had created this account because I am well known here with my main account because I am always active and I want to remain anonymously.

Am 21 a single mum with 1 girl age 5 , her dad rejected me when I was pregnant he left when I was 4 months pregnant with her .

I had a difficult time growing up , my mum died when I was 8 years and my dad denied me claiming my mum had cheated on him and there’s no way I could be his daughter.

My aunty who was supposed to care for me had never bothered about me , she was always out leaving me in the house all alone without food , whenever I complains she will beat me telling me to go to my mum graveyard to ask her for assistance.

I have suffered in the hand of my aunty she didn’t care about my education if I have managed to complete my primary school till jss2 was thanks to this aunty who was a teacher at my school and a good friend of my mum , she sponsored me , And when I was 14 my aunty landlord kicked her out of the house because of rent arrears she said I am the enemy of progress she cant take me to her boyfriend house because he won’t accept me to stay there that I should go and look for a place , I cried and pleaded with her to take me along with her but she refuse I beg her to show me where my dad is she said he will not accept me because he hated my mum but I beg her to take me to him .

She took me to him it was my first time seeing him I looked just like him with one eye big one small but he insulted the hell out of us saying he will never accept me because my mum was a cheater she had so many boyfriends that I should ask her who my real father is but my aunty insisted that my mum had told her before she passed on that he was my dad even taught I resembled him still he denied and kicked us out like we were dogs I cried and my aunty was angry because of the insult so she left me all alone in the street but later came to me .
Since that day my life situation has worsened because I was forced to stay with different people where I was being abused , my baby dad came as a guardian angel to my life he took care of everything i needed by promising me heaven on Earth I taught he will get me out of my hard situations but I was wrong i find out he was married with kids I was heartbroken because I didn’t want to live the same lifestyle as my mum had lived but history has repeated itself just like my mother had me with a married man but she knew he was married but me I didn’t know , but it was too late for me to moved on because I was already pregnant for him and I didn’t want to abort my baby I have decide to continue the relationship but when I was 4 months pregnant he left me and blocked me from all his contacts , this is the man that has never bothered to asked about his child for 5 years now..

My little girl dont even know her dad the same way I did not know mine until
I was 14 which break my heart anytime I think about it.

My daughter and I are staying with my madam the lady tat I serve her for now 3 years but things here hasn’t been easy for us because my madam children don’t like me they keep accusing of things I don’t do like I stole their money , clothes and many more before my madam was telling them to stop with their bad attitudes towards me but I have noticed that whenever they had accused me she start getting angry with me sometimes we can go days without her not talking to me which I think I have overstayed and I am not longer wanted here I want to leave this house and to go and hustle but I feared for my daughter because I don’t want her to end up like me.

If I leave this house we will be on the street for a long time till I will be able to get somewhere else to stay with her also I don’t think I can give her the best education because if she stay with me she will end up being a teen mother just like I did something I don’t want to happen to her and I came across someone who’s willing to help me by taking care of my daughter to give her the best life something that I have always wanted for her , she promised to take care of her till university and she will give me the money to rent a room and start up business she said she will take things to the right direction like adoption but I don’t know how she will do it because I have no idea that I will have to sign up papers for agreement i have agreed because I think is really a good opportunity for me even taught I have accepted but sometimes I am getting worried about giving her my daughter I am having sleepless nights and thinking all nights.

I am just tired of living this life I didn’t ask to be born my parents created me and now I am suffering from their mistakes something I didn’t consented and I don’t want my daughter to suffer because of my mistake I think giving her up for adoption is a good thing , but I don’t know if I am doing the right things.

please no insult what is your advice for me.

Thanks

Please PM me. Ignore all the judgemental Christians here. Jesus showed love and did not condemn the harlot even when everyone was ready to stone her. God loves you no matter your lifestyle. What you need now is a little help and some handwork to become self-sufficient. DO NOT give your daughter to anyone or she might end up worse off than you.

ZINIBANKS:

Since you don't want to tell us it's no problem
But what I sha know is that this person is already a old woman in her early 30s
But phones are not too rampant then
So what do you now use maybe you go to cafe

Your ignorance shines brighter with every utterance you make.

ZINIBANKS:

Your age range ma'am
you don't want to tell us
OK let's do it this way this person am quoting have how many children

You can set an example by telling us how much pocket money you asked your folks for this week.

ZINIBANKS:

Please if you don't mind can you tell us your age range
Cause the year you joined NL I can remember very well haven't started crossing road by myself
I'll tell elderly people to cross me to the other side of the road

Eeeyah! You're such an infant. It's so obvious.

ZINIBANKS:

I greet you ma
The great ancestor of NL
Guy's please check her profile

Thanks, my wonderful descendant!

The Bartley story is an interesting fact. It's possible the specie of whale that swallowed Jonah is now extinct.

kayfra:


Don't ever use us. Speak for yourself

Go refresh your knowledge of grammar. I can freely use "us" to generalize at any time. You should learn to ask questions if you don't understand the context in which a statement is being made rather than jumping to conclusions and lashing out in such an uncouth manner.

kayfra:


You sit down remotely and project what you think are my beauty standards which was imposed on me by the west. It's definitely a complex. The inferior type

I did not use the word "you" but rather "us" in my first comment. It is you taking it personally that is confirming that you feel inferior, definitely not I. So sorry you feel that way.

phenomental40:
peppo4live correct DM me your account number expect alert of 2k tomorrow

Yes, he's correct. I realized it wasn't a cyclical quad actually. Thanks for tasking my brain!

Mrshape:


no one said it isoceles triangle

It is because 2 sides are radii so they are equal.

72 Degrees.

ODC =OCD since they are both radii of the circle.

The angles in the triangle =180 degrees so
ODC = 70 degrees
OCD = 70 degrees therefore
DOC = 40 degrees

AOC = 360 - (212 + 40) = 360 -252 = 108 degrees

Since ABC is opp AOC in a cyclical quadrilateral, they must add up to 180 degrees so 180 -108=72 degrees.

kayfra:


I don't believe I alluded to any of your aforementioned features. This has to be some sort of inferiority complex. There are many dark skinned and short haired Fulanis that are super attractive

It can only be you who has an inferiority complex to judge me without seeing my own features. I believe every race on earth has its own attributes that are stunning and beautiful. I was merely alluding to the fact that colonialism has taught us to prefer certain features.

kayfra:


You are correct.

Fulani girls are fine though

They often have mixed ancestry with some of them having European and Middle Eastern roots hence the lighter skin, longer hair and smaller bone frames the colonialists have conditioned us to believe are more beautiful.

drnoel:


Madam what u posted just confirmed what I wrote. I rest my case. U should read what u posted well so u understand it. If u still don't understand it, I could post more links for u. Cheers!!

I doubt you even understood what was posted at all.