nna men burn the thingy,,,,,,I just got back from Naija and had the worst experience. First it seems like every "professional" Nigerian I met wanted to show me how much they hated my being in the U.S. O.k so ten days after I got to Nigeria last month, I was two cars away from getting robbed at gun point on my way back from Abuja if we didnt have a mobile police escort. Along that Nsukka road, the only way we missed the robbers was because the mobile police escorts that came to get us from the airport started shooting before we got to the "operation" site, and the sound of a more superior gun i guess, chased the robbers away. SO let me get this. Frustrations the NIgerian government heap on its young citizens makes me leave the country at 18, I cant get around the place if I visit because I need an escort to avoid gettin robbed @ Enugu, U cannot walk into any "profesional" joint with getting stared down,,,,,,all these by ur "fellow Nigerians". and am supposed to be proud "am Nigerian",,,,,,,Please give me a break. yeah I will pay the Visa fees ok, but just let them approve my U.S passport this fall and see what will happen to the Nigerian passport. I will take it to the embassy in washington, stuff it into the hands of one of the clerks who will probably also give u and attitude and just fly away to NEW YORK. No thanks am proud of my African roots and culture because it has helped shaped my life and abilities, but I dont think that at this moment I will confidently say that I am proud to be Nigerian. Until I can go back to Nigeria and get a smile back from "customer service" guy or walk to a suya joint without having to take a look over my shoulder. If I cannot visit my friend in the north because of sharia, nor take a walk in lagos because u will get snatched off the street, nor drive to Enugu because people will take from u what u got by ur own sweat, what is there to be proud of in being Nigerian

MY BROTHER BURN THE THING OR PUT IT IN UR ARCHIVES OF HISTORY.

and I agree with u,,,,,I will rather live free

Ha collateral damage,,,,,,sorry mikey. I warned you

I dont respond to terrorist,,,,,please stop asking

whew!!!! its getting hot in here

Muslims oh muslims,,,,,,there is a jew behind me,,,,,can abdul kill him?  Pathetic

See its soooo easy, u beat them in logic argument and warfare. All they know is fire for fire, see how all of a sudden they cant rebuff these claims anymore. When next u hear about understanding Islam and tolerance bullshit, just know who is behind it. I though liberalism was dangerous but I would rather have michael moore over for dinner than a muslim fidel. I still maintain it, turn the middleeast into a parking lot and see 2/3 of the worlds problms go away.

ajia23:

Ajisafe incarnate, Are we missing on the topic here? Lest you've forgotten, it is: Does Christianity Support Immorality And Pacifism? and not WHO you prefer between a throat cutter and a cock sucker

I  Ajisafe,,,,,,,,,lmao

Darkchild:

emmie4j ,

Like someone once quoted,

[center]'it is better for u to keep your mouth shut and let people assume u are a fool, than for u to open it and erase all doubt'.[/center]

And yes, please grow up!!!

I LOVE U TOO!!!!!!

Darkchild:

emmie4j,

please be civil and contribute positively to the discussion otherwise stay out.

make me

ajia23:

Oh my God, this is reminiscent of someone I have now come to miss on this site-Ajisafe. Could this be him in reincarnation? Emmie4j, now you have confirmaed to me that christians are indeed hypocritical about their claims to being peaceful. I always thought so, but never was so sure. Now, America is your war weapon, yet a lot of your brethren claim America is a secular state, now the truth is revealed . Keep it up.


They plan, but God plans and God is best of planners.

Now to all christians, when I statrted this thread, I only needed a clarification of the issue I raised, but unfortunately, I got verbose invectives from quintessential christians, while the fundamental questions have not been answered.

OlaAjia painstakingly researched the old testament, and came out with some quotes which even by Islamic standards are so barbaric, and we asked, is it the same peaceful god of the christians that actually revealed those exceedingly violent commandments? If he is , what made him have the volte-face? Please respond to this as much as you can in a calm, collected and calculated manner. Try avoiding invectives as you are wont to do. Otherwise, you are certainly allowed to take the escapist way out of these things by pretending not to see the underlying issues.
I am still waiting.

U sound like ur little whining brothers in the middle east. U have the impetus to talk about the "immorality of christianity", but guess what, I will always chose a "2 timer cock sucking-LovePeddler" over ur "throat cutting, pediophilic, women hater" brethren every time of the day. I would rather be neighbors with a man that F**ks another man in the ass than ur stinking sheiks that will cut people's hands off and marry away underage girls to retired old men. ur religion and "sharia" nonsense suck,,,,ur prophet is also a pedophile that f**ks nine year old. SO u have no moral justification whatsoever to ask questions about the morality of christianity until u change ur own f**king self.

ajia23

u f**king islamic retard,,,,we will beat u in ur game and make no mistake about it,,,,, u and ur brethren will fail,,,,by the time the U.S military turns the middle east into a parking lot, then u will quiver when next u hear the name "jesus". U think u guys are babaric right,,,,u think u guys know how to cut throat and blow people up right,,,,,wait in not a long time this giant will wake up and u will join ur pediophilic Mohamed in history,,,,just wait and see. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS FIGHTING FORCES

let someone post a thread like this asking whether mohammed was a prophet or just  a pedophile, and see whether seun will move it to the front page. the dude is just another jittery liberal, who considers christianity a more serious threat than people that will behead u or blow u up!!!! yeah it is ok to post this nonsense about the christian faith here where most people are christians, but not muslims!!! seun, trust me when it comes down to it, u who do not believe n anything will be taken first by ur islamist brethren before anyone who at  least believes in something. let the real men please stand up!!!!!

I am a conservative freak !!!! Capitalist to the core, free market with regulations on countries like China that floods market with cheap stuff manufactured from slave labor, I love smaller, better yet smallest government,,,,,,I believe in the preservation of cultural identity and beliefs, most importantly the sanctity of marriage. I totally oppose gay marriage, even though I support civil unions and the rights of people to be in whatever kind of relationship they want. I want religion to be present in public places as one of the options available to people, especially if it is enshrined in the cultural roots of that country. I want creationism to be taught in schools alongside the theory of "the big band"/"evolution". Finally I think that ultra liberal left-wingers should be "wiped off the map"

we went to a chinese restaurant with my uncle and his akata wife, he ordered an fried rice with two sides of orange chicken. So just like we do back home, I tried to seperate the meat from the rice so I can eat the rice first and the chicken later. But he went ahead and told me in front of his wife to eat both the rice and the chicken together, and we will order more chicken if I wanted more. Being so embarassed, I told him that that was how I wanted to eat it, and he snapped and said; "u havent had chinese food before, so I tell u how to eat it without embarassing urself not the other way round",,,,,,,Boy I felt like digging a hole and climbing right in

baby4u2:

On the last day God will judge his people. Those that have served him will be saved and those that have not will not be. Lets watch our mouths on this forum even if u don't respect others and even if u believe that some men of God are fake its safer not to blasphem. Remember everyone, the Lord has said in his word, Touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm. Watch your mouths please, if you don't believe oyakilome is not a man of God or is deceiving others, don't go to his church, don't give money in any form toward his ministry, don't by tickets to board his plane, don't eat in his restaurant, stay on your own period. Let God be the judge and not You. Like i'll always say no be by force na by choice. and seun can u give an explainion to Wills, cause he deserves one even if i know u feel this is your site and can do anything.

Nuff said!

shawna:

Why r u all being haters why can't u just be happy for him and why r u findin it hard to believe he was given that kind of money?

uuhhh,,,,,,because he wasnt,,,,,duh!!!!

Bruekeleen:

thanks mochafella for that question. There is no guarantee that an airline run by a church would be safer than any other. Just about a week ago, an airline or jet operated by Rev. Pat Robinson's crashed somewhere in the East coast. What about that?

SHOW ME THE PROOF PLEASE. ANY LINKS?

U know, I love this forum and all, but it seems like each time a lot of people here have an anti-christian agenda!! Honestly, the last time, someone posted a thread blaming pastors for the problems in Nigeria. Now u have one pastor that has already employed thousands of nigerians, is proposing businesses that will employ tens of thousands more,,,,,,and all the positives u guys can see about this development is that he collects 10% of peoples earnings. WHile that might be true, dont also forget that individuals including me, made a personal,,,,,,again,,,,,,,personal decision to give this money away, and dont forget that it is also well within our rights too. Now that money has been and will continue to be used to employ thousands of Nigerians. Jesus provided food for thousands, and this guys is only following in his styeps. Until any of u starts telling me what business and programs u have opened to help the ordinary nigeria, as opposed to whining about how the government is not doing anything, then just shut up, and thank God that we still have innovative Nigerians that care about our people. Good luck to this business plans if it is true, at least I know that my tithes are going back into helping our communities even though I am so far away, as opposed to the kinds of nonsense that has been spewed on this forum about what pastor does with them.

@ Seun,,,,,I hope u will also be this actively involved sarcastically when an issue concerning muslims and Islam is being discussed. I personally feel that u consider christianity more threatning than Islam. All I will tell u is look around our world and Nigeria, and reconsider that point of view. AT lease be neutral!!!!!!

donnie:



yes i am. However, i agree with davidylan much more than i do with syrup.

The reason being that when Jesus said ye must be born-again, he actually mean every Word.

It is actually a new birth. It is recieving th divine life of almighty God.

It wasnt possible for anyone to have that life and circumcision of heart with out the Holy Spirit.

The Holy spirit is the one who baptizes us into the body of Christ.

This is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This is the born- again experience. This is salvation.

NIce Jesus all the way!!!!!!

dont worry, the north will have another 8 years in mecca before they see Aso rock again. We need to solidify democratic and human rights principles before these morons have another chance of instituting more sharia laws or turning us into an islamic nation!!! South-south baby!!!!!

hobat4cash:

I have discovered that we have serious minded individuals in this forum hence the need for me to post this topic. I have a savings of 50,000 naira and to be truthful i don't know exactly where to invest it.

Have not got a job in this jobless society where links get you a job, which means that this amount is precious so please i need advice on which type of business i need to do, be it online or whatever your advice is appreciated thanks.

Start a popcorn popping business

This is so wrong!!!!!! what did I tell u about Liberalism,,,,,,it is every thing u thought it was not!!!!!

Orikinla:

I hope you can make it to the launching of the FM&B magazine in June in Lagos, Nigeria.

OMG,,,,,,I see ass crack can I touch it, feel up on it, do stuff to it, da da da da sorry guys

cassidy:

abeg oh, 6/6/2006 is my husband - to - be birthday, infact he was born on 6/6/66 and he is the bomb. He has always left a positive impact on a lot of people's life that have come across him.

To my Darlin, I say a big HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Bad belles una won spoil d day with una fake prophecy

U should be worried honey!!!! infact u should leave him right now for the real "savior"(me)!!!!! Hurry before it is too late!!!!

food4tot:

@ picture.

I magine thats what I have on my passport, how would the immigration office know if its me or not. As long as I cover my face

lol!!!
I think that that is the even bigger issue,,,,,people are always eager to run their mouth about christianity, but as for the real religion "of peace" where women are forced into garri sacks, looking like my native masqurades nobody wants to say a word,,,,,,because of course nobody wants to get blown the f**ck up to medina,,,,,,this is so backwards

WHatever u guys have with christianity,,,,,,it seems like everybody in this forum, atheists included always have something to say about christianity,,,,,,now its abount women wearing pants,,,,,please!!!,,,,next!!!!

All of u guys are so 666

bolex:

You always welcomed



Now , that will teach not to go off-topic especially in important threads



How old are you again , I just gave you ma 17th cent

I wonder what u are doing in England a land developed by infidels?why don't u join ur brethren in kabul,,,,,,ewu

twinstaiye:

I for one don't and I have no inclination to insult other people's religion, even at the point of luvadevil's rude and wicked assertion about islam in another thread, I still maintain my cool. However, it bothers so much especially when you are at the receiving end to see your relgion being mocked by some people in this forum. I wont blame the starter of this thread much, not because I am a muslim like herself, but because a lot of our christians in here lack decorum when posting their posts especially about Islam. A lot of christians knew less about Islam, and where some decided to be knoeledgeable, they do it in anti islam way. When you refutes what they write about Islam, thereby correcting the bad impressions they have about islam, they still stuck with their brainwashed ideas. Isnt that degrading and demoralising?
If we are here to criticise other peoples religion, it wont work, as we are not the same character wise, some people don't have the pit to swallow insult at any slightest opportunity.
Now, I will use your post above as an example, Islam is not (Mohammedanism), but Islam, but you still go ahead and call it Mohammediasm, isnt that offensive, provocative and insultive?
Islam especially in this modern day, do not indulge or ask people to join islam by force, that is not a correct notion about Islam. Afghanistan that you mentioned above is a third world country and they are under oppression, and you will agree with me that if any third world country had any problem with the super powers, it is the worst for it, because the superpowers control the media propaganda. Have you ever for once got any version of the news of Afghanistan? No, never, you can't get it. So the information you may have about what is happening in Afghanistan is one sided.
Like someone said elsewhere, all religion has its own flaws, don't pretend christianity is perfect. Let us maintain decorum in here as Orikinla demanded, and I hope it starts if we are tolerance, religious wise.

ok,,,,so all the accusations made about Islam are all false right?? they don't kill muslims for converting to other faiths right?, Mohamed did not marry and f*ck a nine year old right? they did not want want to kill the afghan tha converted to christianity right? they allow people of other faiths to practice their faith in islamic countries right? U guys see women as equals and allow them to do everything u allow your sons to do right?? U do not impose sharia laws on people in muslim states in Nigeria right??