₦airaland Forum

Sweet T:
@Omoovie

It shows how ignorant you are. I wonder what makes you think all Nigerians in the USA are 2nd class citizens? There are Nigerians enjoying the benefits of that country that even white men can only dream of. I don't usually like to argue with an ignoramus but somebody has to educate you. Even the good whole bible said " A man is more valuable in a domain other than his". Even Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ left his family to find Glory and serve the Almighty in other lands. It's always funny how deportees all of a sudden becomes a preacher of "Don't go to other lands". It's a matter of choice where you choose to reside just make sure you do right ! Africa in it's entirety is sick, sick of old and useless leaders, sick of corruption, sick of all-time violence. Imagine people like Adedibu in Ibadan controlling a government? The man that could barely speak a line of English. We need to find a way to resolve our differences other than "political assassinations", "Riots" and "thuggery". Burning tires on the streets !

@Akede-Oba

Chris Hansen should be shot for exposing a man that is trying to defraud him and his people of $5m ? This is part of the sentiments and lack of judgment that I'm talking about. We let our emotions and "Protect my people from responsibility" mentality cloud our judgment. What would you do if you have the chance to expose a man trying to defraud you?? IT IS NOT PATRIOTIC TO DEFEND CRIMINALS NO MATTER WHERE OR WHO THE ARE AND IT IS MY PATRIOTIC RIGHT TO EXPOSE ANY THING ILL THAT IS WRONG WITH MY COUNTRY. Maybe you should listen more to people like Prof. Wole Soyinka and see their views about the state of the nation or are you saying Prof. Soyinka is unpatriotic ??

Everybody let's give this almost American guy a standing ovation .
I bet you don't know that no television program is produced and aired without a script . And no producer will do an uninteresting show, so the script must be made as interesting and sensational as possible so that advertisers will buy it , and the station will make more money. If you don't know , keep your mouth shut and go drink more liquor to "pa'ronu re" like many frustrated immigrant do when they have completely lost their bearing and life purpose .
Clearly you do not understand the point of the argument we are pursuing on this discussion, and you chose instead to get sentimental about the security of your tenure in a country where your demand will always take second priority to that of the natural citizens. You have again confirmed my early fear about yourself sir - a buffoon you are . Your fears will catch up with you sooner or later and you will yourself be "deported" , with nothing to show for your long years except a small American flag which you will go purchase at Oshodi for N100 and continue to wave all over Lagos till they finally lock you up inside Aro Mental Hospital for ever.
Have you ever met Wole Soyinka ? Have you ever heard him make general remarks about "Nigerians" ? I doubt if you can ever come to terms with what Wole Soyinka writes , not to talk of you understanding how he thinks.
You are clearly an illiterate trying to impress on this forum. The sad thing is that every post you make further exposes your ignorance. As my son will say, you are whacked , man !!

You are missing the point : which is to acknowledge that crime is a universal phenomenon and not that Nigerians are a special breed of people that God created for criminal purposes. Less than half a century ago blacks living in the US have faced the same problem - and it was assumed that once you are a black person you are either a thief or a drug user . And so you are most often automatically excluded from responsible social positions. Let us not associate with this negative image. It will not help us or our children.

I lived and worked in the UK for almost 15years because I initially had the impression that "home is where you find happiness". We even hold British passports. But soon you come to realise that "home is where you find acceptability" . There will come a time in your life when you will be made to realise that "look man , this is not your country" and your children's opportunities will always be limited by that suggestion. at any rate, which of all the social vices and crimes that we run away from when we leave Nigeria don't we find more plentiful abroad ? frorgery, fraud, armed robbery, car-jacking, burglary, embezzlement , unemployment, etc . I tell you as a matter of fact that it is easier to get a [b]GOOD [/b]job in Nigeria than in the UK. It may not be a lot better in the USA except you are in the medical profession, teaching , engineering or software development. I know of lawyers (not even Nigerian) cooking pizza in USA to make ends meet. I have seen Americans living in worse conditions than Mushin , and of course in the sort of poverty that is even unimaginable in Nigeria. Yes, there are extremely poor people in US and UK too. Of course if this does not bother you, by all means live wherever you like : it's a free world.

I know of thousands of Nigerians doing crazy menial work abroad and barely making a living but cannot return home because of the shame of not accomplishing anything after so many years of self-deceit. On the day I came back home finally I realised that I had been many years living in bondage and thinking that I am enjoying life. If we can fix NEPA (sorry I am still unable to get used to PHCN) problems, and fix transportation problems , I assure you Nigeria will be one of the best places in the world to live in.

winnteam:
Hey! What do you guys say about the FLAG thing I talked about.

We should all start from there. (I have no relative or friends that sells o!)

It is not necessary, and might in fact be a nuisance. However by all means do it if you are outside Nigeria, if it makes you feel good. There are other ways to fly the flags:

Fly the flag with your response when people say bad things about your country. Be EXTREMELY patriotic.
Fly the flag with a positive confession for your country when you wake up in the morning
Fly the flag by writing letters to your governors (or organising pressure groups which will write letters to your governor) when you see things are not going as it should. Sue him to court if necessary . Get Gani, Falana, etc , or even some other young idealistic lawyer to do it .
Fly the flag by writing letters to chief executives of companies who constitute environmental nuisance. Organise pressure groups and sue them to court if necessary.

Keep positive , keep positive, keep positive about Nigeria every minute of the day . It is your only hope and the only hope of your children . DON'T LET IT ESCAPE !!

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As we were saying before the nincompoop took over . This is what the original poster wrote :

I will tell you the one about the Nigerian 419 scam . Do you know that this fraud started more than 400 years ago and it was then known as The Spanish Prisoner trick ? Now it has been put on Nigeria and our government officials just nod their head in agreement like zombies.

And what about the era of the Nigerian finance companies offering magic interests on deposits. Charles Ponzi was doing it very well about 70 years ago in America . Most scams are the same old tricks being played over and over , and people keep falling for them.

I don't support dishonesty but I am naturally sick of being treated like a leper all over the world. I have been scammed several times and nobody made any noise over it even though I thought I was doing straightforward business transaction such as purchase of a product . I have been scammed by European, American, Asian persons and all I could say is that I will make sure it doesn't happen again, but when a Nigerian is caught out it becomes headline news worldwide. What bothers me is our government not man enough to stand up for our country's name and defend it. Nairalanders what do you think about this ?

The Questions asked are :

1. How did a 400 year old Spanish Prisoner Trick suddenly become "Nigerian 419 scam" .?
Answer : It is because people with a slave mentality "like you-know-whom" have accepted it as their lot in life to be known as scammers.


2. the poster said " I have been scammed several times and nobody made any noise over it even though I thought I was doing straightforward business transaction such as purchase of a product . I have been scammed by European, American, Asian persons and all I could say is that I will make sure it doesn't happen again, but when a Nigerian is caught out it becomes headline news worldwide. "
Answer: It is because bootlickers "like you-know-whom" will make sure that the entire world knows about it primarily to selfishly exonerate selves.

3. the poster said "What bothers me is our government not man enough to stand up for our country's name and defend it."
Answer : It is because sad sack Nigerians "like you-know-whom" living outside the country have accepted anyway that no good can ever come of the country (including themselves) - and will strive to destroy whatever credibility that is being attempted .

Evil people prefer to advise from a distance rather than playing a part in solving problems. I apologise though for assuming that everybody is able or willing or even mentally competent to make any positive contributions to building a better country. Sorry folks ,do get on with your lives the way you like it.

@Akede-oba
over to you sir

Sweet T:
That's exactly my point, you worked in UK for 15 years and got deported. I can see why you are bitter.

This guy is a proper twit . As far as he is concerned, the only reason why people return home is because they are deported. I can see where your real fears are. Happy slaving !!

Sweet T:
@E-monkey

I would rather serve Oyinbo than slave in my own country. At least Oyinbo people provide me with the basis life necessities and some more. You are slaving for some northern idiots that can barely even rule his household and here you are running your stupid mouth. It's people like you that makes me feel ashamed to be a Nigerian. I wonder when was the last time you experience electricity? ordinary clean drinkable water na wahala. Olosi !

I worked in the UK for 15 years as an IT consultant , and I still get consulted even from my house in Lagos. They respect me, and don't treat me like some cleaner / security guard in a security company looking at secret files while others have closed and gone home. If idiots outside the country could rise up for their country with dignity it would do a lot of us a lot of good. As a matter of fact I stand to be corrected that it is not only Nigerian doctors that get arrested for Medicare offenses. This is not to take side with illegality; just stating the facts. So how does that become a Nigerian problem ?

Sweet T:
@E-monkey

Yeah in your dreams, you freaking buttbreath. You are cooped up in one cyber cafe written crap defending idiots that suppose to rut in Jail. Yeah security guard in your dreams, i work at the pleasures of Mr President. Freaking @sswipe, go find you a job and get the fu ck out fraud.

Oyinbo don put shit for him mouth he no go gree us rest again. Even common English grammar he no sabi write , come talk say him dey work for president.
president of which company in texas abi where them carry you go do slave now.
I sorry for una. Na there you go die , money to carry you back home self maybe you no go get

Now let's take a brief lesson in English (or American) grammar

the word is "writing" not "writting"
the word is "rot" not "rut"
the expression is "idiots that should rot" not "idiots that suppose to rut"

" since you are so fascinated by the work of fictions than fact, i refuse to argue with novice"

Chei , this man done destroy mama charlie finish .

Now who is the @sswipe ?

Sweet T:
@E-monkey

You name says it all. What would you know anyways, you are probably in one cyber cafe posting crap. My work allows me access to see the crimes Nigerians get involves in. Over an over again you see 8 in 10 nigerians getting arrested for some wire fraud. I don't expect you to know more than the book of a hungry author. And since you are so fascinated by the work of fictions than fact, i refuse to argue with novice. Have a good day sir.

- So you are a security guard ? Big deal.
- 8 in 10 Nigerians getting arrested for wire fraud ? From my simple arithmetic (if you know any at all) , you should have arrested more than 100 million Nigerians so far; right ?
You appear to be an slowpoke, sir : this is not an insult, it is a fact. Uncle Bola Ige of blessed memory would have found a more befitting word to describe you.

Sweet T:
@Poster

You post is partially correct. True Nigeria takes a lot of blames for more scams out of w/Africa than necessary. But the truth still remains that Nigerians are more responsible for those E-Mail scams. You see, crime coming out of every country is usually categorized by codes. The Chinese are known for credit card fraud, the Russian are known for casino and oil fraud, the Italians are known as mobsters and Nigerians are classified as 419ers. Truth must be told, most Nigerians are very greedy and what is so annoying is that every time they get arrested, they start smiling like an idiot !!

Most Nigerians are very greedy ? Well, your census crew never came knocking at my door !! Do the most Nigerians include you , or have you conveniently exonerated yourself ? This is the kind of nitwit suggestions that we should be fighting against instead of abetting. I have lived and worked with as many nationalities as you can think of and I assure you that none has scored higher in honesty than any average Nigerian that I know. Most are even worse.

Now where did you get your funny classifications from ? (The Chinese are known for credit card fraud, the Russian are known for casino and oil fraud, the Italians are known as mobsters and Nigerians are classified as 419ers ) .I am certainly learning this for the first time, but coming from you I think it should be discountenanced because you sir are of outstanding ignorance , and certainly the sort of people we don't need if Nigeria is to move forward anyway.

PS: I have read the book. I also wish that you read it (if you are literate) , before opening your mouth to say any more nonsense.

The problem with your proposal is the "African" issue. If you are creating one for Nigeria it seems a more feasible concept because it will be solving problems that are uniquely related to Nigeria. The reason why I say this is that not all African countries have problems with international online payment systems . Most of the Southern and Northern Africa countries do not have this problem. They do not need an "African" payment system.

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It is indeed a serious problem and I know how you feel. Don't expect help from your government however. They are always busy fighting a legitimacy battle.

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Specs :

17'" Flatscreen
1 GB Ram
80GB hard disk
Intel dualcore
FDD
CD/DVD writer
MM Speaker


It's a clone but I got it quite expensively (N95,000), from a friend . Receipt available.
Option : Starcomms internet (one) with desk phone - Cost me N12,500 extra.
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I bought a brand new PC about 4 months ago and it is barely used since then :
Specs :

17'" Flatscreen
1 GB Ram
80GB hard disk
Intel dualcore
FDD
CD/DVD writer
MM Speaker


It's a clone but I got it quite expensively (N95,000), from a friend . Receipt available.
Option : Starcomms internet (one) with desk phone - Cost me N12,500 extra.
Since I will again be doing much traveling soon, I am looking to exchange for a brand new laptop . I will top up some cash with it if reasonable amount. I am in Lagos.
Please email me with offers.

It all really depends on what you want to do. Joomla is quicker for some jobs , Drupal is better for community web sites , wordpress has its own special points too - and there are a lot of others in between . I always advise that you first do your specifications before trying to choose an OS CMS to implement it . This should make a difference between a web site that handles visitors well and bloatware .

400,000 ? Where is it being taught ? What company.? Thx

I am not quite new (a couple of months here) , but I am fascinated by this completely Nigerian forum . I will explain : Nigeria is probably the only place in the world where two persons can have an insult slinging contest lasting for more than 30 minutes (and even hours) and then each go their different way with nobody getting physically hurt. The viciousness of some replies to posting here is often very scary, but surprise nobody leaves the forum because of that which proves that Nigerian are probably the most tolerant people in the world. Nice to meet you all

I was away from Naija for a long time , and when I came in recently it was a big surprise. The improvement in VI (especially along the shorelines) completely blew me away, and I can say that there are several parts of Lagos (never been to Abuja of Port Harcourt etc) , that any rich foreigner will sell all they have to come live in (pity about power supply though).

I am compiling a photo album to show the beautiful parts of Lagos (other than the crap that the foreign press shows us) and will be delighted to receive photograph contributions from all you Nairalanders. You can post it here or mail to mail@websesame.co.uk . Never mind about the quality, I am a wizard with computer graphics. Thanks

Strange topic but it does look rather popular . However can any of the legal eagles tell me what is difference between "removal" and "deportation" ; and under what circumstances can a person who has suffered either be permitted a visa again ? I have a HSMP neighbour who was removed for overstaying 2 years.

I have also been there before many times. I say charge them as much as you can, and as much as they can afford to pay (and also do a great job for your porfolio) or charge them NOTHING. This way you get RESPECT.
Do a GREAT job nevertheless.
NEVER sell yourself cheap. If you want to, you can put what they paid in the offering later, but charge them first.

Can I get some cost info on either please. Email me at mail [at] ensap [dot] com

Does anyone know where I can get Digium cards in Lagos ? please email me direct

Can anyone in Lagos with fast internet help me download a couple of large files (total about 1.4GB) for a fee urgently to CD/DVD. pls email me at mail [at] ensap [dot] com with quote.

Depending on what you intend to do with asterisk for a pure voip solution, its as cheap as free! asterisks is an opensource platform(under a GPL lincense), meaning its free to download u can visit their site www.asterisk.org

On the other hand if you are looking to develop Telephony application involving telephone lines or number, u'll have to purchase any of the digium cards

My question actually was about what one should expect to pay the programmer for doing the dirty job , but you have got it mixed up. Do you know anyone that sells digium cards in Naijah ?

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On the contrary sir . It is a fulfilling undertaking and I have made my contributions wherever I can . Indeed I used to have a program of installing OS scripts free for non-profits and I only wish I had more time . I have more than two dozen web sites to look after on a regular basis and just can't volunteer anymore time, thank you sir.

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Bad joke. Anyone will be crazy to be fighting to take up an unpaid job I think .

I can knock together a similar forum to this in less than half a day, only I will have no time to maintain it . Why should I want to maintain someone else's web site for free ?
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