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Who is Hisham and who is father?. You know them personally?. Tell us how they look?. I have told you that you chose what pleases you. And you have not answered my initial question. I still got more references and questions for you but answer the first one first. It seems you didn't read to digest my previous post. The Quraishi and pagans, even in their enmity, the Meccans of Muhammad's time never accused him of moral ineptitude. A christian Dr. wrote: "The current charge that Muhammad took his third wife, Aisha, when she was a minor is based on apocryphal traditions. The preponderance of evidence suggests that Aisha was between 16 and 19 years old when she married Muhammad." Who opposed Aisha's marriage to prophet at that time?. Did anyone accuse prophet muhammad (SAW) of pedophilism those days?. Answer these questions please. Besides, this Hadith you quoted suggests prophet married Aisha after Khadija. Sawdah bint Zam was his second wife. Believe whatever you want. But I will keep it simple with you. Aisha(may Allah be pleased with her) was born 613 CE. Battle of badr (the first battle) took place in 624 two years after hijra. There is no historical record to back up solitary Hadith you quoted. There are other historical records about her age. I would have accepted the Hadith if it was attributed to the prophet himself (saw). No one can tell your story like you. In another word, only prophet muhammad (SAW) could tell his story and then, his God. The bible says, I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me." So only prophet himself could tell his story. But I'm not interested in all of these for now. My question was why didn't people at the time criticize prophet's marriage to the Aisha at the time?. Why is true2god having headache with this in 21st century? true2god: |
true2god:Is this your escape route just because you can not answer my question?. It is a very simple question. Why do you think you wanna condemn marriage btw Aisha (ra) and the prophet(saw) despite being taught many times over the years?. You think I am here to waste my time knowing who you are?. Anyways, prophet Muhammad recognized 6 and 9yr old as a child. It was impossible that he would marry a child who definitely had not reach age of puberty when he said these words: Prayer (Kitab Al-Salat) Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately. Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 495 In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 105 English translation : Book 2, Hadith 495 So question is, had Aisha rechead age of puberty at 6 or 9?. Answer is no. She was considered a child even at the time. So how would prophet married a girl before puberty?. Use your sense. Hadith you quoted is historical not wahy (revelation). In the Quran, God addressed wives of the prophet as WOMEN. A 6 or 9 yr old at the time was not a woman. We also read history that Aisha went to the first battle of Badr before she married the prophet(sw) and rule of thumb was that no one under the age of 15 should accompanied men to the battle. She married the prophet(SAW) after the battle and after Hijra. The Battle of badr was 2 years after hijrah and battle of uhud was 3 years after hijrah. All these are documented in Sahih Bukhari. I know you won't see this because of your selfish interest. These short articles should help you out and stop quoting solitary hadith to justify your illusion. Do sincere research and stop being a nuisance. THere are several researches on the internet to learn from. https://medium.com/@talalrafi/was-aisha-9-years-old-when-she-married-the-prophet-muhammad 20ae7516e428#:~:text=Which%20means%20she%20was%20over,in%20looking%20after%20the%20wounded. https://yaqeeninstitute.org/arnold-yasin-mol/aisha-ra-the-case-for-an-older-age-in-sunni-hadith-scholarship |
Bros, my question is relevant and valid to this topic. Provide a reference for rejection of their union at that time. It is a very simple question. I have more questions but only one question so far makes you shiver. I'm giving you a second chance to give me answer. Since you like to dig into our text then give us evidence that people at the time opposed their marriage based on Aisha's age?. If you don't have answer just tell me so I can help you further true2god: |
true2god:First of all, why is it true2god in 21 century is the one having problem with Aisha's marriage to the prophet?. Show us evidence in history where anyone opposed to Aisha's marriage to the prophet or accused prophet of marrying a "child"?. Please provide proof. We need precedent for your claim. If you can not find proof that anyone including prophet's archenemies condemned the prophet for marrying a child, then whatever you say in modern time is irrelevant. This is your first assignment bcuz I know it is a waste of time giving you evidences. Here is my question again. Provide evidence that people in the time of the prophet muhammad (SAW) opposed to their union?. If there was no opposition and you can provide evidence, then, there is nothing to talk about. But if you think there were people that opposed to their marriage because Aisha (ra) was "underage", then bring your proof. |
Rubbish! Is this Hadith of the prophet himself?. Guy, I'm not interested in unnecessary arguments. Marriage of Aisha was historical not RELIGION. So story is bound to have inaccuracies. We have evidences otherwise. So get over this trash. You are talking as if you care so much about 6yr old Aisha. Go and worry about corruption in churches. Don't let me bombard you with references. I know that no amount of proofs given to you, you will return here in a week and still speak the same trash again. true2god: |
true2god:bro, why is your life so miserable?. I am sure you have learned this subject on this platform for 6 years but you still asking this silly question 6yrs later?. This shows you have ulterior motives. If you need to learn more on this topic there are several articles and videos available to you and stop being nuisance online. Prophet muhammad (SAW) did not marry 9yr old girl. There are evidences pointing otherwise but you rely on solitary Hadith to prove your position. Get over it Besides, is that 9yr old girl you're daughter?. Why are you so much concerned if you don't have motives?. You are a Catholic. There are priests sleeping with young boys at vatican, the Christian holiest cite for you to sort out instead of sticking your nose here, abi? |
12. Transforming Nigeria begins with every citizen learning civility and becoming a decent human being. It begins with you and I. Maybe there will be a further part to this article. In the meantime, I want to know what you think in the comments. Share your Nigerian story with us. #MyNigerianStory Yemi success, MD |
11. I wouldn’t join anyone to say #EndSARS. I will rather say end the Nigerian madness. If we end SARS, are we going to also end the Nigerian police force? Are we going to end our doctors? Are we going to end the lecturers too? Are we going to end the nurses? Are we going to end the politicians and Pastors? Are we going to end our civil service who treat other Nigerians like dung? Are we going to end Nigeria?. |
10. We are not a civilised society. We are brutes, we treat each other like animals. The ones who went to school amongst us are worse off in this regard. Most Nigerians are closer to the animal world than Homo sapiens. This may seem very harsh, But only animals treat one another the way Nigerians treat their fellow country men. Until all these stops and we learn civility, we can kiss growth, development and progress goodbye forever in our nation. Our children will continue to kill and maim each other because they learnt well from us. They will continue to be strangers in foreign lands. They will continue to die on the seas and in the deserts, in their quest to escape the hell our incivility has caused. Nigerians we need a rebirth. This rebirth starts with every Nigerian. It is a decision we will make individually and collectively. However, individually first. Think for a moment about the person you honour and regard most in life, Now make a decision to treat everyone like that. That is how to build a great nation. |
9. This explains why our politicians steal. Majority of Nigerians are abusers or abusers in waiting. Someone once said that the number of people currently stealing in Nigeria is not up to one percent of people waiting to steal. We are all thieves in waiting, We have just not gotten the opportunity to steal yet. Incivility is why our pastors manipulate people for personal gains. It is why our policemen and women shoot without thinking. It is why our lecturers intimidate students and demand sex for marks. It is why officers in almost every government office in Nigeria take and demand (not even request) bribe. Incivility is rooted in every Nigerian. It is rooted in our obsession to destroy our brothers and sisters just because we have a little advantage they do not have. How then are we supposed to have a civil society that respects the right of all? How is the right of the weakest person among us supposed to be protected? |
8. We are Nigeria, Nigerians are we. We are SARS. SARS are we. The SARS attitude is the Nigerian attitude. The SARS way is how most of us behave, From the least to the greatest among us. You have not known a Nigerian until you give him power, gun or a little edge above his brothers. The moment a Nigerian gets power, Do you know what he would do first with it? He will seek out his brothers and destroy them one by one. It’s the way of an animal, a brute and an uncivilised man. It happened when the colonialists arrived our shores for the first time, Nigerians captured one another (in exchange for gifts) from the slave-man. It’s still happening same way today. And though the colonial masters have left, Nigerians are still colonising one another. |
7. Every society has brutes (including Europe), but remotely I will place the brutes around 5% of their society. By contrast, I will project that 95% of Nigerians are uncivilised and brutes. Less than 5% of our society understand what respect and dignity for others mean. (Subject to a later research as I intend to publish a paper on workplace incivility in Nigeria) |
6. I schooled for a while in Europe. Everyday, I had to go to class through the metro system which was often so busy especially during the rush hour. If you by mistake step your foot on a European during rush hour, he is likely to look back and apologise to you. That happened to me a number of times. Yes, you read that correctly. He didn’t match a foot on me, I did, yet he chose to apologise because he is civil. Yet I could only dream what my fate would have been had it been in my beloved Africa. Slaps and curses would have been my options. As students in Europe, our teachers would appreciate us profusely for coming to class. They count it a privilege to tutor us. It was same attitude with doctors, nurses, taxi drivers, government officials etc. |
5. Nigerians, we are not civilised. We behave like animals when handed power or advantage, even if it is very little. If a Nigerian is a quarter mile above you, he will ‘show you’ We lack civility at every level in Nigeria. This disease affects both educated and non-educated Nigerians. If you dare step a foot on a Nigerian, you could be making the mistake of your life. |
4. Nigerians are simply not civil. Treating your fellow human beings with dignity and respect is what is called civility. When you are brute, disrespectful and unrefined in your dealings of others, you are said to be uncivil or uncivilised. An uncivilised person is not better than cave men, brutes, or at best an animal. Civilisation is mainly determined by how people speak and treat each other in a society. You are not a human being until you respect those below you same way you respect those above you. |
3. Have you walked into our hospitals? Did you observe the manner senior doctors address their junior doctors and their patients? Or the way older nurses treat younger nurses? The way nurses attend to relatives of sick people? Or the way and manner our pastors speak to and relate with their congregations? Or the way Nigerian families treat their maids? Or the way our lecturers harass their students and being extremely mean to them? Or the way bus conductors and drivers address their passengers? Or the way drivers cuss at and curse at other drivers in a traffic? Or the way our airport staff handle travellers? Or the way policemen and women treat drivers and highway users? Or the oppression bosses mete out at work to those under them? Or the way politicians treat their fellow Nigerians? . |
2. Recently, I walked into a Nigerian post office to claim a parcel, The ‘big’ woman behind the counter took a long look at me and bellowed from her nose ‘what do you want?’, The nasty way she spoke almost had me fleeing through the nearest exit. Yet, it wasn’t that I had met her before or offended her prior. My only offence was that I was a Nigerian like her seeking her services. She was just being the typical Nigerian with advantage or power. She was just being like the rest of us. |
1. Majority of Nigerians irrespective of tribe or level of education have the SARS attitude. It is often said that if you want to know who a person really is, give him power. That cannot be truer than in Nigeria. Nigerians are simply really reckless with power, no matter how little. You better pray not to have a Nigerian have some advantage over you in any way, or require his/her assistance, Your life could become hell for no reason at all. |
Salam Alaikum everyone. I sincerely apologise if sharing the articles below is not in conformity with the aim and objective of creating this forum. I thought it worth reading and let us think about what the writer was driving home. PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE... WHY NIGERIAN SARS ARE KILLING PROPLE Cc |
AbdulSleeky:How about this? Empiree: |
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AbdulSleeky:why not?. SARS killing citizens is tantamount to oppression. Islam has zero tolerance for oppression. Therefore, citizens must lend their voices to reform or end the oppression. I am not talking about violent protest where people start destroying properties. |
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advocatejare:you didn't bother or you are afraid to watch? He quoted your own book. It is only 1 min clip now. You Muslims are the ones that copy what Muhammad do so as to get reward, you claim that he's the best of mankind and that his wives are your mothers.which means you don't copy Jesus. So why are you following him then? And I showed you how Muhammad was married by the wealthy Khadija and when Khadija died, Muhammad inherited her wealth and used them to marry other women and didn't allow his new wives to work but instead of providing enough garments for them, he didn't.and how is this your problem?. Is it your wealth?. Don't we have people who inherited their wife or husband and re-marry?. Abeg, find another excuse. |
advocatejare:So why are you denying that pastor in the video?. Is he wrong in his biblical interpretation and why are you worried about Muslim women allowed to work or not?. Where is your evidence from Qur'an not to work?. For women to work is their choice. I am still looking for another pastor I watched yesterday but I didn't save it on fb. He said women are not wired to work for a living but you are making the whole thing look as if Muslim don't allow their women to work means they enslaved them. You wrong. |
true2god:Alhamdulilah, I am enjoying bounties of Allah each day and I give all thanks to Him. I also send salutations and blessings on His prophet daily. Nothing better than this. |
You are simply trying to protect Christianity as a whole which is not a bad idea. The best Christian sect is not up to lowest standard of Islamic sect. By the way, how do you come about your statistics, that Christianity is better than Islam?. Which standard you used to arrive at this conclusion?. Ifeann: |
advocatejare:Your women are to work from home. Work from home means taking care of their husband and kids. https://biblereasons.com/women-working/ Titus 2:5 To be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. |
advocatejare:https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/403620260414581/
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At least you have something to appreciate about Islam. How about salat and hajj that are very much documented in your Bible?. Anyways you just hinted interesting point about religion. I hope you aren't leaning towards atheism like true2god is doing?. That will be good by the way. Islam, the best way of life. Love it or leave it. You know too well Christianity is jargon. Even Catholicism you professed is worst of all factions Ifeann: |
Rilwayne001:Have been hearing stuff about data scams lately. What's going on?. Whatsapp went in flames this week when some people complained about their "service providers" called them for data promotion but in reality they are scammers who robbed their bank accounts. And I expect all these phone service providers to have affordable unlimited monthly data plan by now. Also there is a continuous data price award on okanlomo on fb program but I don't know how it works unless you watch the program. But I notice many people won data. Not from their service providers but abled individuals who give free data |
It is a must for generations of human race to believe Holocaust occurred. Obvious, Holocaust is a political tool to get entire world to sympathize with the Jews so they could get away with whatever they want. Imagine in a Muslim country a teacher is fired for saying prophet muhammad didn't exist?. The while world would go in flames about "freedom of belief, freedom of choice, freedom of religion, freedom of expression". But people do not have freedom not to believe Holocaust. This principal was fired in a country that claims it doesn't recognize Holocaust restrictions because it contradicts democracy and freedom.
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