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Jokes EtcRe: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 9:16pm On Oct 14, 2018

IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 6:53pm On Oct 14, 2018
mostyg:
From my little knowledge, affliction caused by jinn or human possession can be cured by ruqyah. Let me also add that the ruqi can invoke Allah to bring back the jinn causing the affliction. This is done by reciting "aynomo takumu yati bikumullahu jamian, inallah alakulishein qadir and innahu alarajiun laqadir) So with that you can deal with the jinn and make him/ her remove whatever thing placed in the victims body causing the affliction.

I have done this severally with Allah's grace.
Human possession is the most wicked one. if i got it right, human possession is he same way Jinn possess human and speak through thier victim, right?. This was exactly what sheikh Isa Akindele narrated. A woman possessed a lady who insulted her and she spoke from her. Sheikh said that he asked her "are you sure you are not jinn?". She confirmed she is human being and she gave her house address for confirmation. I think i have the video on my profile. It is crazy. Sheikh Isa said that was the first time he experience such thing. I think she agree to leave but she she would still go after her. But she didnt leave the moment the story was narrated.
IslamRe: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by Empiree: 4:52pm On Oct 14, 2018
OluwabuqqyYOLO:
As-salam alaekum wa rahmatullah wa barakatu. I am Abdulhakeem Muhammad. I'm from Ibadan but lives in Niger state.

My belief lacks enough conviction and I haven't been a consistent mumin. I've come here 'cos I assume becoming closer to other muslims will definitely help. Please pray for me.
walaikum Salam. You are welcome
IslamRe: What Is Ahmadiyya by Empiree: 3:35pm On Oct 14, 2018
I found these. I prayed behind them few times before at their Central masjid in Ijebu-ode. Average muslims could not tell the difference back then.

Point is, we should not call individual Ahmadi a kafir because he or she might not know details of his aqeeda. Mirza Gulam Ahmad himself was wrong, and it is very silly for his followers after seeing clear text of Quran saying Jesus the son of Mary, some of them belief the contrary that Jesus already returned in person of Mirza Gulam Ahmad the son of Punjabi woman. This is why they called him "prophecized Mahdi".

Reason for this is, if a mainstream muslim and Ahmadiya debate Christians, everything will be fine until you reach the death or Ascension of Jesus.

Mainstream muslim narrates the story as detailed in the Qur'an but Ahmadiya will tell you that when Jesus was on the cross or after he woke up the third night, and his whereabout could not be found, he was actually in India and spent rest of his life there. This is what a brother was telling Christian when me and him were debating Christian guy over a decade ago.

I didn't say anything to disrespect him before the Christian. I emailed him separately to enquire about his unfounded theory.

Years later, a friend of mine from Trinidad who is pro Hindu, Islam and Christianity told me the same thing, that Jesus went to kashimir grin

So I'm afraid that the believe stemmed from Hinduism because that's what the guy told me. He said (laughingly) that Christians hate when Hindus say Jesus went to kashimir after he rose from dead.

So in my opinion, instead of calling them kufar, it is better to tell them to make tawbah because, calling them kufar will just distance them. So it seems they have different aqeeda system within their ranks.

IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree: 7:34am On Oct 14, 2018
AbdelKabir:
Do you have eyes? Is there no difference between رحمة "rahmah" and رحمان "rahmaan"?
Does "fathatain" changes intended meaning of Rahman in the Ayah?
IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree: 6:53am On Oct 14, 2018
Interestingly, this Ayah addresses the prophet as "Rahman" without prefix which indicates creation may be call "rahman" as long as it is not accompanied by anything exclusive to Allah


#myopinion

Jokes EtcRe: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 6:38pm On Oct 13, 2018
Lol

IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree:
What's Sufism has to do with this?. You have ulterior motives or what?. You never get over that?

I'm gonna stop arguing on this. At no point did I say it is okay to call someone Al-malik as you alleged. I have never heard anyone called by Al-malik. What I hear all the time is simply Malik.


Well, maybe it is your school of Law that came up with this analysis. What we were taught was that only Allah is exclusive to God and no creation should be called Allah without adding "abd". And also "Rob" (Lord). These are exclusive to Allah alone. All these explainations you and them gave are controversial and complex.


As said before, it is always best to call creation abd-rahman, abd-aziz, abd-hakeem, abd-Jabar.


Interestingly, I checked on other madhab and they said this (attached). Therefore, I would have to agree with you. But then, take a look at the end attachment, that's my point all along. That's exactly what we were taught. If it was forbidden, they wouldn't have allowed us to call people by "rahman" since it is not accompanied by anything that suggest Allah:s Attribute to oneself. In Yorubaland, they never for ones attached anything along Rahman. They simply say "ramoni" even though they messed up the name.



Allow me to quote it out in case it is too tin to see.



"Hence, it is impermissible to call a person with the name "Rahmaan" because this name is peculiar to Allaah, The Exalted. It should be noted, though, that calling or naming someone with the names that are peculiar to Allaah is not shirk in principle unless it is accompanied by a statement, action, or belief that comprises shirk on part of the doer."




^^^


That's the point I'm trying to tell you

IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 12:35pm On Oct 13, 2018
Dreydoe:
I told someone aged recently who said to me so and so have more Islamic knowledge than you.

In other words. Trying to tell me
I should accept his decree without questioning.

My reply:
" I don't care if the person may be the chief imam of the whole Lagos state, if he brings a doctrine, not in the Quran or a clear hadith about it.. I will reject it!.


The reality is this when situations occur and you get close to people, the people you think ought to know basics about religion don't really know jack, they just follow their sheik and imams without going back to research themselves. It's bad

I respect people especially people with knowledge. Islamic knowledge the more but that doesn't mean, I won't go back and research on the things you told me.

We are humans nobody is perfect.

Allah Alam.
Taqlid is bad. After learning things from someone, it just makes sense to research on your own. This is called "student of knowledge".
IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree: 12:29pm On Oct 13, 2018
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IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree: 12:06pm On Oct 13, 2018
So you mean in Yorubaland where we call someone Rahman, Azeez, Lateef, fatai, Jabbar etc, without abd we have been committing SHIRK all these decades. Is that what you are saying?.

If this is what you are saying, kindly provide conclusive scholars opinion where they said calling someone Lateef, Rahman without abd is shirk. I will like to know that because you are saying many of us committed shirk

There is no difference between calling someone Rahman and calling someone Hakeem, Aziz etc

Now, I didn't say that's the best position. I said in a typical muslim household, they called people by abdrahman, abdjabbar, abdwaqil etc but it is common in Yorubland to call people Rahman etc without adding abd. But you are saying it is shirk to refer to someone as Rahman but it is not shirk to refer to someone as Malik. This is gotta be the most confusing notion.

I was gonna agree with Islamqa until I read further where they said it is not permmisibile to call human being Rahman (merciful) but it is permitted to call someone Malik(Sovereign). But both are Allah's Majestic Names.

What we were taught was that you can call creation Rahman but you can't call creation Ar-Rahman. You can call creation Malik but you can not call creation Al-Malik etc but islanqa really got me confused.

It means their manhaj is different.



See @bold, there is no argument on adding abd or not. What I'm saying is you should provide proof that calling someone Gaffar, Aziz for in stance is shirk
AbdelKabir:
Pls provide the scholars that differentiate between adding suffix "Al" and the suffix not being there

Allaah called himself these names in some places in the Qur'an without the suffix "al"

Example in suratu nuh:

فقلت استغفروا ربكم إنه كان غفّارا

Gaffaar came in without suffix "al"



Pls don't speak in issues you don't know anything about, I mean what's the meaning of this?

The truth is names that only Allaah is entitled to them, you must call those names with abd if calling a creation of Allaah, like Rahmaan, Rahmaan means the one who is merciful to everyone in this world without exception, kafir or Muslim, this why they can also be rich and attain goodness in this life, who else can be this merciful except Allaah? So you must call his servants " Abdur-rahmaan" you can't call him Rahmaan suffix or not, another name specific to only Allaah "khaaliq" only Allaah is the creator, the one who creates from nothing, so calling another by it leads to shirk.

There are names Allaah bears which is not specific to only Allaah, like samee', Allaah hears, humans also hear, so calling a creation "As-samee'" is allowed suffix or not, same as "baseer" Allaah sees and humans also see, so his creation can be called "al-baseer" suffix or not.
below are attachments from Islamqa. You may not see their confusion but I see it.

Let me repeat that there is no difference between Rahman, Aziz, Gaffar, Hakeem, Lateef, Basit, etc. You can call creation by these names as it is but you can't call creation Ar-Rahman, Al-Aziz, Al-Malik, Al-Jabbar etc

But Islamqa said you can call creation al-hakeem, Al-Aziz, Al-Malik etc but you can't call creation Ar-Rahman. Abeg, what's the difference?.

They are very wrong to say you can call creation @bold by adding Al
AbdelKabir:
Pls provide the scholars that differentiate between adding suffix "Al" and the suffix not being there

Allaah called himself these names in some places in the Qur'an without the suffix "al"

Example in suratu nuh:

فقلت استغفروا ربكم إنه كان غفّارا

Gaffaar came in without suffix "al"



Pls don't speak in issues you don't know anything about, I mean what's the meaning of this?

The truth is names that only Allaah is entitled to them, you must call those names with abd if calling a creation of Allaah, like Rahmaan, Rahmaan means the one who is merciful to everyone in this world without exception, kafir or Muslim, this why they can also be rich and attain goodness in this life, who else can be this merciful except Allaah? So you must call his servants " Abdur-rahmaan" you can't call him Rahmaan suffix or not, another name specific to only Allaah "khaaliq" only Allaah is the creator, the one who creates from nothing, so calling another by it leads to shirk.

There are names Allaah bears which is not specific to only Allaah, like samee', Allaah hears, humans also hear, so calling a creation "As-samee'" is allowed suffix or not, same as "baseer" Allaah sees and humans also see, so his creation can be called "al-baseer" suffix or not.
let me repeat there is no difference calling creation Rahman, Aziz, Lateef, Gaffar, Hakeem, Malik etc these are allowed.
Islamqa said you can not call creation Ar-Rahman(The most Merciful) but you can call creation Al-Malik (The Sovereign) Abeg, what's the difference?. You may not see their confusion but I see.
They also said you can call creation al-hakeem, Al-Aziz, Al-Lateef etc. This is wrong. This is not what we were taught. You can't call creation by adding "Al". So I'm sorry, I see confusion in their writings. We are not doing shirk when we call creation Rahman, Malik Aziz, Basit, Gaffar etc but it is wrong to call creation by these names when you add "Al".

This is very clear. Your position is confusing. But the best is always to call creation abd- Rahman, abdaziz, abd Malik etc

IslamRe: Why You Should Call People's Names Correctly? by Empiree: 3:22am On Oct 13, 2018
There was conclusive verdict on calling muslims by Allah 's Names, like Lateef, Jabbar, Aziz etc. Scholars said there is nothing wrong with it. It is not sinful or Haram. But adding prefix is much more appropriate.

What scholars of Islam condemned or frown upon is calling someone Al-Lateef, Al-Aziz, Al-Jabbar etc. By adding prefix, "Al", you compromised Allah's Attributes.

So whether it is abdulDaiyaanullah or simply Daiyaanullah it's not considered sinful or Haram. But in a typical muslim home, they usually address someone by "abd" which is the most appropriate. So calling someone "Al-Daiyaanullah" is not allowed. But calling someone "Daiyaanullah"be is fair.


Messing up pronunciation of someone's name is abhorrent and disrespectful.
CrimeRe: 14-Year-Old Iraqi Boy Murdered Because Of His Feminine Looks, Video Goes Viral by Empiree: 12:40pm On Oct 12, 2018
See how Nigerians are giving bad comments on Iraq as if Nigeria is any better.

Don't you kill alleged witches who are children?

Don't you kill alleged thieves extrajudicially?

And one Id!ot said "islamaBad" as if this has to do with Islam?. Nigeria will forever remains backward with this type of thinking. What exactly you are taught at school in this day and age that you can not think philosophically?.

Iraqi govt simply needs to bring the idiots to book. Simple
PoliticsRe: Obasanjo: Atiku Associating Himself With Failures- Balarabe Musa by Empiree: 12:28pm On Oct 12, 2018
Bhol28:
We accept,atiku is a prolific kleptomania,but he must be president come 2014
no more old people they have been in politics since their 20's, 30's and 40's.

You need new generation
PoliticsRe: Obasanjo: Atiku Associating Himself With Failures- Balarabe Musa by Empiree:
Nigerians, We Better Avoid Atiku In The Next Election, Otherwise, A ti ku ni yen sad

You Are Not Moving Forward If You Think Atiku Will Solve The m Your Problems. He Should Be In Jail For Sabotaging Stable Electricity



ATIKU, THE PROVIDER OF LABOUR AND SERVICES? A BRIEF CASE STUDY OF AMERICA UNIVERSITY OF NIGERIA

By Akin Omoz-Oarhe

Why are you always led by the nose ? Can’t you do your independent reasoning? Just imagine Atiku telling you that he is a provider of labour and services through his various investments and you are now jumping all over the place repeating same. Can’t you ask what labour he has provided and who are the beneficiaries of the services defender. Can’t you ask how the “services” he has provided over the years, improved the life of the down trodden? What a shame. Let me help you here, taking a glance at one one of his best known investments, the America University of Nigeria.

Atiku owns America University of Nigeria, Yola, Adamawa State. Adamawa is his home state. Constituting the Board are:

BOARD MEMBERS.
**1. Archbishop Desmond Tutu. Non-Nigerian
**2. Dr. John Campbell. Non-Nigerian
**3. Dr. Bamanga Tukur. Nigerian
**4. Dr. Louis Goodman. Non-Nigerian
**5. Mr. Gabriele Volpi. Non-Nigerian
**6. Alhaji Tajudeen Dantata. Nigeria
**7. H.E. Prof. Gilbert Bukenya. Non-Nigerian
**8. Prof. William Bertrand. Non-Nigerian
**9. Vice Admiral D. J. Ezeoba. Nigerian
**10.Bishop Matthew Kukah. Nigerian
**11. Dr. Anna Mokgokong. Non-Nigerian
**12. Alhaji Adamu Abubakar. Nigerian
**13. Chief (Dr.) Mike Adenuga. Nigerian
**14. Dr. Peter Lewis. Non-Nigerian
**15. Mr. Jon Freeman. Non-Nigerian
**16. Mr. Ike Chioke. Nigerian
**17. Mr. Akin Kekere-Ekun Nigerian
**18. Dr. Dawn Dekle. Non-Nigerian

Can you believe that 56% of the Board membership are non-Nigerians. Why would Atiku think that Nigerians cannot totally run his University.

LIST OF PRESIDENTS
Since inception of the University, there have been four Presidents which are equivalent to our Vice Chancellors. They are
**1. David Huwiler. Non-Nigerian
**2. Michael Smith. Non-Nigerian
**3. Margee Ensign. Non- Nigerian
**4. Dawn Dekle. Non-Nigerian.

Why does Atiku think that Nigerians are good enough to Head his school? Not even one? I can only think out a reason: It is part of human behavior to see in other people what you are. If you are a fraud, you think everyone else is a fraud. To Atiku, all Nigerians are all fraud like him who should never be allowed to Head his institution lest they financially crumble the place.

WHAT BENEFIT DO PARENTS OF ADAMAWA KIDS DERIVE FROM THE SCHOOL?

For a First Degree, The fee is :
Tuition 1,590,000
Boarding 650,000
Meals. 678,300
Technology 70,000
Sports. 50,000
Student Activities 60,000
Health 20,000
e-Books 90,000

TOTAL. 3,208,300 (Three million, Two hundred and eight thousand, three hundred naira only). In addition to this, a student that decides to take an extra course in a semester beyond the 15 credit units for that semester, pays extra N53,000 per credit unit. Note also that the feeding here is for only 42 meals the college would provide. You provide the rest 1050 meals for yourself. In simple term, a student spends over N4m per annum just to be student of Atikus Iniversity.

Adamawa is not a particularly rich state. Most people are peasant farmers. A permanent secretary in Adamawa State is on annual salary of about N2m. Such a Permanent Secretary would need a two year salary to pay one year school fees of one of his four children in AUN. What could be giving Atiku the picture that his people can afford such a fee? Again we can see Atiku projecting his life style on others. As a custom officer, Atiku became a multi billionaire from stealing public fund. He expects other public officers to do same. As regards the peasant farmers, Atiku definitely believes they are simply not worthy of attending his school.
The chances are high that there may not be up to 20 Adamawa Children in AUN and definitely not a single child of the honest civil Servant or Peasant.

WHAT TYPE OF CHILDREN IS ATIKU BREEDING?
Think of the kid from Atiku’s University that had spent over N60,000 monthly on accommodation and had been fed 42 times at the rate 16,000 per meal. Now academically endowed, he desires to improve his fatherland by taking up an accountant in Adamawa State Ministry of Finance where his entire annual salary is less than N500,000 to cater for his accommodation, feeding, clothing, transportation and with a view to bring up his own child in colleges not worse than the one
he attended. Tell me what he would do? Sure there is only one way open to him. It is to behave like Atiku and go straight for the treasury.

Nigerian youths, please avoid Atiku like a plague

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:32am On Oct 12, 2018
Interesting

PoliticsRe: Atiku Names Saraki As Campaign DG by Empiree: 6:34am On Oct 12, 2018
EweduAfonja:
Saraki is like a political DJ Khaled/master craft


Dictionary meaning of Atikuing..

To salvage something or to save it...before it's too late. ... As a noun, Atikuing is the act of rescuing stuff from a disaster like a shipwreck/ BUHARI or fire — or to rescue goods themselves. As a verb, Atikuing means to collect or rescue sort of item, or more generally to save something from harm or ruin(eg APC)
grin
IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:05am On Oct 12, 2018
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:27am On Oct 12, 2018
usermane:
I know that's what you said. But what you said is not reality. In Iran or Saudi, hijab and forced business dismissal for salat is not limited to Muslims, it is enforced on everyone(with very little exception for foreign non-Muslim rulers on visit).
Like the Chess tournament sometimes ago in Iran where Female chess player from India refused to participate because Iranian authorities insist on headcoverings for all women. Search on Google.

Now, you must pardon my venting, as it seem to have sunk you into trolling, taunting and gloating as you do with Christians and atheists in Religion section.

But my venting post was suppose to be my final response to you, so I unleashed my mind without holding anything back, for that last post. I do not desire to reply you anytime soon as you've proved now to be an avid opponent of human rights and freedom.

I wish you the best and hope that you sincerely, see the errors of your ways.

And please, grow up. Taunting is for kids.

Peace.
Alright, you have no evidence against me. Case Closed. Next time, do not allow your ego to take charge.

Peace With You Too
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 1:35am On Oct 12, 2018
This is deep.

Which state do you live if I may ask?

Jamo90:
Thanks @Ladunal I'll check it out.

This would be a long read. Please pardon my typos.

I've been making some deep research on some of the topics discussed here recently but I'm particularly interested in about four, of which one would be our main focus now.

#I read movado's posts in the Islam and Spirituality section on the dreams she had probably as a result of the Dua of protection against Shaytan she's been involved in. I noted some of her concerns and points.



The Topic I've been pondering about is on Iwosan: The Cure to the enemy's Spiritual Arrow.

From my research, I discovered that there are more supplications and Dua on protection from Jinns and evil eye than on the duas and Cure from the effects of these ailments when they have already afflicted a person. "Ailments" in this context is restricted to the physical manifestation of spiritual attack through Stroke. I have spoken with people who claimed to have been shot or bitten by snake in the dream before they had paralysis of the hands and legs which has greatly affected their walking. It is not something that can be overlooked. You don't have to wait before it happens to someone close to you.


I'd have loved to read Ikupakuti's view on this subject.
Oga Empiree is right when he said we should seek knowledge on Islamic Spirituality because those shuyuks who have the knowledge are truly dying at a faster pace lately. When you remove Spirituality from Islam, you have certainly reduced it to other dead religions. One Vulture will become king over the dead bodies of a hundred Lions.

I'd like to read mostyg's view on this. I have read your posts on using Ruqyah to treat jinn possession in Islam. Are you aware about any correlation between evil eye, spiritual arrow, jinn possessions and Stroke?

It is not enough to Know the preventive measures of an ailment if the cure to the same ailment after it has afflicted a person is not known. This has led many people to go back to the enemy for assistance. How can a man who was bitten by a snake go to the herbalist, only to be told the only cure is to drink alcohol from a bottle that has a dead snake in it.

You'd be surprised at the number of people In this Islamic section who would cross carpet when the enemy gives them an uppercut. You can make Tahjud when you need financial help from Allah or when you have a case in court. But what do you do when you can't speak nor walk. Your family members have tried everything possible and are now suggesting that you be carried to one baba in Ijebu. You don't have access to Ruhaniyah like our Oga here Lol.



Your research on Islamic Spirituality would have made it easier for you to tell your family on what Surah to recite or which Sheikh in your contact list to call. A sheikh who will treat you by using the Combination of Quran, hadith and teachings of the Prophet (SAW)



I have been planning to embark on knowledge-seeking journey on issues like this just to have a first hand knowledge of how some afflictions are cured with the Power of Allah hidden in the Qur'an. This will take time, money, perseverance and of course, persuasion of these shuyuks. I pray Allah makes it easy Insha Allah.

Please pardon my type of Questions on here. I have lived amongst people who have received serious thrashing from Shaytan probably due to their Ignorance.

My friend's Mom rented a shop at **** Lagos Island. She went to the shop to inspect the new tiles and paintings done at the Shop. She slipped, fell flatly on the floor and lost her sight immediately. How did slipping cause blindness?
My friend relocated within a month to another state because he was scared something would happen to his newly married wife and unborn baby.

# I know for a fact that a jinn/demon is involved in this attack.


I listened to a recorded audio of Islamic exorcism posted on this forum months ago. The man was bewitched by a relative years before the the exorcism took place but the jinns sent were waiting for the perfect time to attack. He was a devoted Muslim and couldn't be attacked easily. They followed him around for about 8 years until he backslided and they came in for finishing. He went crazy upstairs and things went downhill from there.
An 80 year old jinn is still a baby because most of them sometimes live for hundreds of years. They know your Great Grandparents. it's very likely you'll die before them and they will still see your Grandchildren. Who's at the receiving end here? Humans or Jinns?


Just as Empiree used to say here that nkan nbe faa. Lol

In Summary, I want to know if there is anyone that knows anything about the kind of knowledge I seek or anywhere I could get it because some of the things I want to know are things some people served their Sheikh for years before they could get. I don't think that should be the case nowadays. You don't have to live with a sheikh for so many years before he can share knowledge and experience with you. I might be wrong though. What kind of treatment is used to cure paralysis of the limbs that occurred as a result of Evil eye or attacks? I think I read somewhere that A Sahaba read suratul Fathia to cure evil eye? Do we have people like that nowadays?




I once asked Ikupakuti that "which is more powerful and dangerous, The Devil or Ignorance?" He said in quote "Ignorance is the prime adversary of man. The plots of the devil are weak in the face of knowledge."

I pray he comes back someday to shed more light on some of the topics discussed in his absence. May Allah protect him and everyone reading this.



Everything I have written here is my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong in any of my points.
Salam

Cc: Empiree Ladunal Mostyg Ikupakuti (Lol)

Everyone's full contribution would be greatly appreciated.
IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 8:53pm On Oct 11, 2018
IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 8:31pm On Oct 11, 2018
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:09pm On Oct 11, 2018
Someone Is Not Happy Right Now cheesy

IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:41pm On Oct 11, 2018
LATE SHEIKH YAYA SALATI AT INDA SALATI ULTRA MORDERN MOSQUE IN ILORIN...... ROHIMOHULLAHI.

https://www.facebook.com/mediamovementforislamiclecturesandevents/videos/2265917486757890/
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 11:19am On Oct 11, 2018
LadunaI:
Don't mind them, they can't do except missing everything together. Traditional religion, Christianity and Islam as if they are "one". Lol
they are very silly grin
IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 8:04am On Oct 11, 2018
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
usermane:
I never said Muslims shouldn't pray at the appointed time. I said no one should force Muslims to pray.




In our talk here so far, in this thread, I never said this.



I never said this in our discussion in the last 2 or 3 days. Are you deliberately derailing the topic? I said if a Muslim conclude salat is thrice daily, his conclusion should be respected. 5 salat should not be enforced on him.
Stop playing with my intelligence. Everything i mentioned is what you meant. It is even shameful that you repeated it. This should never come out of a faithful person. We all know your creed. You have argued this in the past and recently in other thread. You posted exactly what's on your mind. We all know that you have problems with major tenets of islam. Stick to criticisms of some hadith. Don't tamper with obligatory practices. I have zero tolerance for this.

There is no way you can refute 1400 years of these practices as passed down to us. And there is no room for other opinion(s) when it comes to obligatory practices like shahada, salat, zakat, haj. You have openly expressed your opposite views. You have argued that our shahada is wrong. Our salat is wrong(that's why you dont pray with fellow muslims). You have argued zakar 4 yrs ago. You have condemned sunnah practices of hajj. Therefore, kindly keep your fake manhaj with you



All irrelevant. Evident of your poor knowledge on forced Islam in those countries, closure of business in time of salat and enforced hair covering applies to non-Muslims.
You have made wrong allegation against me. Kindly quote me where i said @highlited please?.



Far as i know, this is what i said

Empiree:
Any non muslims living in those mentioned countries are not bound by the law in question.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:13am On Oct 11, 2018
Someone Is Not Happy That White People Are Coming To Islam

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:12am On Oct 11, 2018

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:02am On Oct 11, 2018

IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:11am On Oct 11, 2018
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree:
LadunaI:
Yeah, he did talked about it. He mentioned that generally speaking ruhaniya means spiritual, and all being occupying the spiritual space are technically known as ruhaniya. But specifically he said "ruhaniya" as an identity occupies/lives between 2-7 heavens.

He mentioned that hadrat Khidr metamorphosised into "ruhaniya" after engaging in chanting divine names. This seems to me like figurative expression. But Khidr(ra) is an "enigma" who is regarded as king/leader of rijalu ghayb. He is considered a murshid to so many AWLIYAHs guiding them to Allah.



Those are people refers to as rijalu ghayb, and Khidr being their leader guiding them, teaching them some ismu azam corresponding to their nature to become "archetype" like himself. Their anecdotes/activities were much more discussed in a book Imaginary Muslims.
Humm, nkan nbe faa. I actually missed some of ikupakuti's "tafsir" on this subject last year. Have to go through this thread again. So Khidr is not essentially human. He was "programmed" by Allah to play the role of teacher of Musa(as), just like Dajjal is a spiritual being "programmed" to appear in human form at his appointed time?. I think thats why Khidr was not subjected to sharia of Musa when he allegedly "killed" a boy. Knowledge of sufism is gold if pursued with ikhlas.




Actually, I watched that film sometime last year.As much as I like how the they depict spirituality, I don't subscribe to the idea of where a destiny of one person is substituted for another based on some people(pastor) privy to divine knowledge. I think that is explicitly prerogative of Allah, and partly what hadrat Khidr story somehow unravelled; the mystery behind some seemingly inexplicable situations. Altering, modifying or improving positively the "Destiny" of people through DIVINE directive though thru taught provoking actions, not necessarily exchanging someone destiny for another.
Lol, this is yoruba nonsense version. I dont take them serious. I only focused on spiritual realm aspect.

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