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parisbookaddict:
E.mpiree u havent answered, is this your definition of success. . And whats going on.. please give me all the info.. is it the Jews making muslims kill themselves or the igbos inventing bh or the west .. which one ..

you asked me obvious questions. And when did everything you stated began?

back here after 3 months. Let's see what i missed

parisbookaddict:
[s]You think this is a game..
If you are religious, you should know that the hereafter is not a joke, if u want to accept christ i will advice you to read the bible and visit as much catholic and protestant churches as you like.. there is a reason they exist. . Just dont go to the j.w and mormons...

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parisbookaddict:
You see why i accuse u of al taqiyya..
The murderer has not been caught so how do u know he/she is of faith..
And what do u mean paul's business, paul was a teacher, charity organizer (the first documented charity organizer in history), a righteous man who was eventually martyred. .

No christian can do that,
Probably a hateful godless person or even a disgruntled muslim who disagrees with the imam on theology(happens all the time in the middle east).

No, i dont expect the media to mention his religion. So far, he is described as hispanic male. Majority hispanic people are Catholics, religious or not

parisbookaddict:
Emp.iree u havent answered, is this your definition of success. .

I am not gonna get in any silly argument with you. Even dump people know whats going on.

parisbookaddict:
So mohammed has followers who behead thousands including muslims(more muslims have died by the hands of Muslims than by the soviets, west, jews, crusades combined ), perform honour killings, rape muslim women who dont use hijabs or dont cover properly , kill nonmuslims, have several failed states afgan, libya, Yémen, syria, somalia, pakistan, rob girls of their childhood, cry everyday on tv, blow themselves up killing fellow muslims, shia and sunni slaughtering each other for over 1300 years and yet the religion does not even have the most followers.sworn enemies the jews have a homeland in the very heart of the middle east even tho he promised jews will be driven out of arabia.. my friend that is failure and not success..

One of your brothers in faith just carried out Paul's business yesterday


https://www.nairaland.com/1794405/islam-muslims-side-talk-station/66#48482220

parisbookaddict:
Mohammed came up with a quran declaring himself a prophet.. so u want to convince us he is a prophet by his own quran. .

Dude, did he forgive sins or live a righteous life..no

Are there witnesses to his splitting of the moon "miracle" or flying donkey.. not even hadiths claim he was righteous..

I have grown tired of you but have not given up, and i must admit that i have been harsh on you lately. It is so frustrating how you want to insult people and ignore the truth brought to you.

Jesus will forgive you if you try and he will lead you out of islam.. u have invested a lot of time, works, ramandan fasts and quran recitations but it is not too late my friend..

Luke 7:41, 48-50 GNBDK

Then Jesus said to the woman, “Your sins are forgiven.” The others sitting at the table began to say to themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?” But Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

Have a nice week.

You have truth?. You are a joke of the century. Who are you trying to cajole when you can't even help yourself?. Okay, i will give you one last chance. If you can solve it then, i will listen to you.


[size=15pt]Which christian doctrine of the TWO MAJOR doctrines approved by Jesus?.[/size]


I am not talking about sects. I am talking about doctrine. When you figure that out, then, only then i will give you room.

parisbookaddict:
Very insightful and thought provoking quotes from brilliant authors, scientists, Christians, pagans and atheists. . Muslims cant organize words into such insight sentences. . Not a single muslim u quoted i wonder why..

Because of your criticisms of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), that's why he is a true definition of success today


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annunaki2:
As I said earlier, your religion has rendered you incapable of thinking, so I will pardon your ignorance.

Maybe you need to study history of Annunakis.

annunaki2:
If you were capable off thinking, you would have realised that the quotes you stated above are best applicable to you and other delusional muslims but alas islam has rendered you incapable of thinking. The joke is actually on you

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parisbookaddict:
You have heard about toilet jinns watching muslims when they use the toilet, here is more hilarious teaching of mohammed bin Abdullah

Sunan an-Nasai 671—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said: “When the call for the prayer is given, the Shaitan takes to his heels, passing wind loudly so that he will not hear the call to prayer. When the call to prayer is finished, he comes back.

I don't recall the last time i heard Jesus on your lips. I am sure during your Sunday service, you only think about Muhammad. That's good. Thanks for working for us ma'am

analice107:
Muhammed is Allah, and he is an elementary demon from the pit of hell.

“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.”
― Plato


“Humans see what they want to see.”
― Rick Riordan, The Lightning Thief


“No matter how busy you may think you are, you must find time for reading, or surrender yourself to self-chosen ignorance.”
― Atwood H. Townsend


[size=14pt]“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”[/size]
― Søren Kierkegaard



“Five percent of the people think;
ten percent of the people think they think;
and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.” You, analice107 belongs to the 85%
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“People are stupid. They will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true.”
― Terry Goodkind, Wizard's First Rule


“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead

[size=15pt]Muhammad Asad (pronounced [ˈmoʊ̯hämæd ˈæsæd] ( listen), Arabic: محمد أسد‎‎, Urdu: محمد أسد‎, born Leopold Weiss; 12 July 1900[17] – 20 February 1992[/size] was a Jewish-born Austro-Hungarian journalist, traveler, writer, linguist, thinker, political theorist, diplomat and Islamic scholar. Asad was one of the most influential European Muslims of the 20th century.[dubious – discuss]

By the age of thirteen, young Weiss had acquired a passing fluency in Hebrew and Aramaic, other than his native languages German and Polish. By his mid-twenties, he could read and write in English, French, Persian and Arabic. In Mandatory Palestine, Weiss engaged in arguments with Zionist leaders like Chaim Weizmann, voicing his reservations about some aspects of the Zionist Movement. After traveling across the Arab World as a journalist, he converted to Islam in 1926 and chose for himself the Muslim name "Muhammad Asad"—Asad being the Arabic rendition of his root name Leo (Lion).

During his stay in Saudi Arabia, he spent time with Bedouins and enjoyed close company of Ibn Saud—the founder of modern Saudi Arabia. also carried out a secret mission for Ibn Saud to trace the sources of funding for the Ikhwan Revolt. Due to these activities, he was dubbed in a Haaretz article as "Leopold of Arabia"—hinting similarity of his activities to those of Lawrence of Arabia.

On his visit to India, Asad became friends with Muslim poet-philosopher Muhammad Iqbal, who persuaded him to abandon his eastward travels and "help elucidate the intellectual premises of the future Islamic state". He also spent five years in internment by the British Government at the outbreak of World War II. On 14 August 1947, Asad received Pakistani citizenship and later served at several bureaucratic and diplomatic positions including the Director of Department of Islamic Reconstruction, Deputy Secretary (Middle East Division) in the Foreign Ministry of Pakistan and Pakistan's Envoy to the United Nations.

In the West, Asad rose to prominence as a writer with his best-selling autobiography, The Road to Mecca. Later, after seventeen years of scholarly research, he published his magnum opus: The Message of the Qur'an—an English translation and commentary of the Quran. The book, along with the translations of Pickthall and Yusuf Ali, is regarded as one of the most influential translations of the modern era. An ardent proponent of Ijtihad and rationality in interpreting religious texts, he dedicates his works "to People who Think". In 2008, the entrance square to the UN Office in Vienna was named Muhammad Asad Platz in commemoration of his work as a "religious bridge-builder". Asad has been described by his biographers as "Europe's gift to Islam" and "A Mediator between Islam and the West".







Thank You All For Your Humble Services For This Ummah
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[size=15pt]Arthur John Arberry (12 May 1905 in Portsmouth – 2 October 1969 in Cambridge)[/size] FBA was a respected British orientalist. A prolific scholar of Arabic, Persian, and Islamic studies, he was educated at Portsmouth Grammar School and Pembroke College, Cambridge. His translation of the Qur'an into English, The Koran Interpreted, is one of the most prominent written by a non-Muslim scholar, and widely respected amongst academics.

Formerly Head of the Department of Classics at Cairo University in Egypt, Arberry returned home to become the Assistant Librarian at the Library of the India Office. During the war he was a Postal Censor in Liverpool[citation needed] and was then seconded to the Ministry of Information, London which was housed in the newly constructed Senate House of the University of London. Arberry was appointed to the Chair of Persian at the School of Oriental and African Studies SOAS, University of London 1944–47. He subsequently became the Sir Thomas Adams's Professor of Arabic at Cambridge University and a Fellow of Pembroke College, Cambridge, his alma mater, from 1947 until his death in 1969. He is buried in Ascension Parish, Cambridge, together with his (by provenance Romanian) wife Sarina Simons/Arberry (1900-1973) whom he had first met in Cairo and then married at Cambridge in 1932.

Arberry is also notable for introducing Rumi's works to the west through his selective translations and for translating the important anthology of medieval Andalucian Arabic poetry The Pennants of the Champions and the Standards of the Distinguished. His interpretation of Muhammad Iqbal's writings, edited by Badiozzaman Forouzanfar, is similarly distinguished.

[size=15pt]Muhammad Muhsin Khan (Arabic, Pashto, Urdū: محمد محسن خان), born 1345 AH / 1927 CE,[/size] is a doctor and author of Pashtun origin, most notable for his English translations of Sahih al-Bukhari and the Qur'an, entitled The Noble Qur'an, which he completed along with Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali.

[size=14pt]Shaykh Muhammad Sarwar (Arabic: محمد سرور),[/size] is a Pakistani-born American Islamic scholar specializing in Islamic theology and philosophy. He is also known as the first representative of the late Ayatollah Abul-Qasim al-Khoei to the Shia Muslims of North America. His works include the first contemporary English translation of the Quran (1982), currently its sixth edition (2011), and books about Islam. In recent years, his primary focus has been the translation of Islamic ahadith from Kitab al-Kafi (eight volumes) and Bihar al-Anwar.

[size=14pt]Muhammad Habib Shakir (1866 in Cairo – 1939 in Cairo) (Arabic: محمد حبيب شاكر‎‎)[/size] was an Egyptian judge, born in Cairo and a graduate from Al Azhar University. Sheikh Mohammed Shakir b. Ahmad b. ‘Abd al-Qadir was born in 1282 Hijri/1866 CE in Jirja, a city in Upper Egypt. He studied and graduated from Al Azhar University. He died in 1358 Hijri/1939 CE in Cairo.

His son, Sheikh Ahmad Muhammad Shakir, wrote his biography in a treatise entitled Mohammed Shakir ‘Alam min A‘lam al-‘Asr

[size=13pt]Sir Abdullah Yusuf Ali (Urdu: عبداللہ یوسف علی‎), CBE, FRSL (/ɑːˈliː/; 14 April 1872[1] – 10 December 1953)[/size] was a British-Indian Islamic scholar who translated the Qur'an into English. His translation of the Qur'an is one of the most widely known and used in the English-speaking world. He was also one of the trustees of the East London Mosque.

Ali was born in Bombay, British India to a wealthy merchant family with a Dawoodi Bohra (sub-sect of Shia Islam) father. As a child, Ali received a religious education and, eventually, could recite the entire Qur'an from memory. He spoke both Arabic and English fluently. He studied English literature and studied at several European universities, including the University of Leeds. He concentrated his efforts on the Qur'an and studied the Qur'anic commentaries beginning with those written in the early days of Islamic history. Yusuf Ali's best-known work is his book The Holy Qur'an: Text, Translation and Commentary, begun in 1934 and published in 1938 by Sh. Muhammad Ashraf Publishers in Lahore, British India (that became Pakistan in 1947).

While on tour to promote his translation, Ali helped to open the Al-Rashid Mosque, the third mosque in North America, in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, in December 1938.

Ali was an outspoken supporter of the Indian contribution to the Allied effort in World War I.[2] He was a respected intellectual in India and Sir Muhammad Iqbal recruited him to be the principal of Islamia College in Lahore, British India. Later in life, he again went to England where he died in London. He is buried in England at the Muslim cemetery at Brookwood, Surrey, near Woking, not far from the burial place of Marmaduke Pickthall.


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[size=13pt]Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall (born Marmaduke William Pickthall, 7 April 1875 – 19 May 1936)[/size] was a Western Islamic scholar noted for his English translation of the Qur'an (1930). A convert from Christianity, Pickthall was a novelist, esteemed by D. H. Lawrence, H. G. Wells, and E. M. Forster, as well as a journalist, headmaster, and political and religious leader. He declared his conversion to Islam in dramatic fashion after delivering a talk on 'Islam and Progress' on 29 November 1917, to the Muslim Literary Society in Notting Hill, West London.

analice107:
This confirms Muhammed as a false prophet, but these people are so blinded by pride not to see the truth.

Wonderful, A prophet who receives revelations from Allah, by wearing Aisha's clothes. He actually dresses like a woman to receive revelations. That man was a psychopath.

"[size=17pt]Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things[/size]." ~Chapter (33:40) sūrat l-aḥzāb (The Combined Forces)



#EnoughSaid

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Was going to say that when i saw his post. I chose to let him be.

Maybe he's reasoning with Islam gradually

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#MashaAllah No Excuse For Salah

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Now, please dont ask me for evidence for this. This is logical deduction.


You see the Jews are very proud to this day and they feel they are superior. The same attitude they had in the time of the prophet(SAW) after they conspired to kill him(P), and Allah changed the Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca.




[size=14pt]"We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."[/size] Sura 2:144






This change of Qibla is an insult to the Jews. It pains the hell out of them that they sworn that if Muhammad(p) did not pay the price Muslims would. This is why they tried to corrupt Qur'an but Allah protected it. All their efforts aborted. But then, they easily infiltrated hadith because they lived amongst Muslims. They narrated bunch of negative stuff and placed them under famous Sahaba for Muslims to accept them.

So when a muslim reads hadith narrated by Umar, Ali, Ibn Abass and other famous companions, and the hadith is in conflict with Quran or dent image of Islam, we accepted these ahadith ONLY bcus it was narrated by trusted famous people. This is the biggest mistake we make as muslims And they placed these ahdith in Sahih to make it sound. This is greatest robbery of all time. This is what I was telling lexiconkabir that Jews/the 'mutashirk' as they are called have also narrated ahadith that our Ulama accepted without tough investigation just bcus they are placed under trusted companions (RohimohuAllah Ajimoi'n)

The Punishment Of Stoning To Death is found in the Old Law (The Torah). And I believe it is abrogated by Qur'an even though there are mutawatir ahadith on Rajm. The abrogation of rajm could better be understood with some historic context. Its all started when Rosulullah(sallahu alaiy wasalam) came to Medina. When he arrived Medina, he did not implemented Islamic Sharia. He found the Jews fasting ashura and he did and ordered muslims to do the same. He saw the Jews facing Qibla (Jerusalem) and he (SAW) and Muslims did the same.

I wont go into questions they asked the prophet(saw) to test his prophethood. Even though it was as clear as daylight to them, they rejected him. They hated the prophet(p) more when he ENFORCED rajm in their Holy Book. Jews NEVER carried it out UNTIL Rosullah(SAW) did. They changed rajm to blacking faces of adulterers etc. You know the story of a prominent Jewish Rabbi Abdullah Ibn Salaam so I wont go into that. That is the man that uncovered their scheme.



This is a very interesting story located in Seerat nabi. It happened after the prophet{p} arrived in Medina and Jews and Jewess were brought to him by the Rabbis for committing adultery. The thing is, they wanted to set him up exactly as they did to Jesus(p). Which means they were not really interested in the prophet's opinion to begin with.


They thought he would bring lesser punishment for adultery contrary to RAJM in their Torah. So the prophet asked them similar question as Jesus asked, that they should bring Torah since that is the Law. At this time, Qur'an's verse of FLOGGING either was yet to be revealed or not applied since Islamic Law was not in effect. When they brought their Torah, prophet(p) asked them to read it for the punishment for adultery. This is what (Qur’an 5:43) you quoted earlier is talking about. As the Rabbi was reading and got to punishment for adultery, he covered it with his finger. Meaning he hide the truth.




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Narrated Ibn 'Umar: A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess

Sahih Bukhari 8:82:809, See also: Sahih Bukhari 6:60:79, and Sahih Bukhari 4:56:829



The prophet clearly abrogated STONING for adultery from Tawrat or Old Testament. The new Law is FLOGGING mentioned in the Qur'an. Now, take Qibla (Jerusalem) for instance, remember Muslims used to face their(Jews) Qibla before Ayah of Qur'an was revealed 2:144. It was after it is clear that Jews, not did they only reject the prophet but now CONSPIRED to kill him. That's when Allah changed the Qibla. Changing of Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca is abrogation of old Qibla (Jerusalem). This abrogation is 100%, meaning we have nothing to do with old laws anymore. The abrogation is not part time. That's why we face Mecca today. There is no Rajm as hadd for the muslims.

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Walaikum Salaam

I thank you for bringing this up. Was going to quote some of them. I wouldn't argue over this at all, that's why i am reluctant to post on Rajm. I think you need to re-read everything you posted. But let me clear one misconception you seem to have about me. I think from your write up, you think i deny Rajam. That's not the case at all. I know it was prescribed in Torah. I don't deny that. I dont deny it is Allah's order in the Torah. Please clear this misconception first. Thank you.

What I am simply saying is that it is no longer Muslim or Islamic hadd. It is as clear as daylight that STONING is prescribed in the Torah. This verse you quoted,




“How do they ask you to judge while the Torah is with them, having the ruling of Allah? Still, they turn away, after all that. They are no believers.” (Qur’an 5:43)





You agree it is talking about the Jews. But I am talking about Muslims. You did not give EVIDENCE from Qur'an that STONING is for Muslims. I do not deny it is for the Jews. Please get this fact right. I am not denying or arguing Rajm is Allah's Law. But I am saying Rajm is the punishment for adulterers in the Jewish Holy text and still there today. Please re-read everything you posted including that verse of Qur'an in Maida.

Sura Maida 43 is NOT evidence of Rajm for the Muslims. It is referencing Hadd in the Jewish Law my brother. Please read what you posted. Maybe albaqir and Demmzy15 can help get my point across. Tafsir and ahadith you quoted simply reinforcing Rajm for the Jews not Muslims.

Finally, my point is Rajm was prescribed by Allah in the Torah but Quran abrogated it after prophet(SAW) enforced Rajm which was abandoned by the Jews and replaced with blackening faces. The ONLY 'evidence' you cited that seems that Rajm is applied on Muslims in the hadith you quoted,

6- Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Messenger- peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: In retaliation for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

You also quoted this one which, in fact still talking about Jews or christian or both

It is for this reason that Ibn Abbas- may Allah be pleased with him- said: "He who disbelieves in stoning (the adulterer to death) will have inadvertently disbelieved in the Qur'an, for Allah said, ‘O People of the Scripture! Now has come to you Our Messenger explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture’ (Qur’an 5:15), and stoning was among the things that they used to hide.''

Iykestix:
am still waiting for your answer

Did you read what he said?

WORDWORLD:
I have answered the question.. CHECK ABOVE and say no more...........to entertain any polemical piece. Peace my brother, take good care of yourself.

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That's why I didn't bother