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Newnas:
Empir.ee, if AlBaqir is being sidelined it's normal in fact doing otherwise is the abnormal!

He knows -just as I know- that we practice different religions. All his taqiyyah camouflage is crap in my sight.

As for your claim that he makes some points, that doesn't negate his disbelief because the Messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam said about Shaitan the chief of evil: صدق الخبيث

Meaning: The filth said the truth

Even scholars dont believe ALL Shia are mushrik. You better slow down bro. This is not the way to go about differences. But like someone said earlier, it is your prerogative.

I thought this was cute


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ROBuwVjYM

[quote author=usermane post=48217772][/quote]Is this LAIL or not? .

Can you break your fast just about this sky?

I can say we are really on the same page base on your reply. I don't have problems with them.

sino:
The case of rajm is a case of abrogation, it is never a case of the Qur'an being incomplete as some of the shi'ah scholars believe. The ruling is clear in among the ahlu sunnah, anyone who believes the Qur'an with us is incomplete is a kafir, no excuses....

But this issue of Rajm, you will really have to write a CONVINCING EPISTLE to get me to believe this again. Yes, I grew up believing in it. I only changed my view in 2010 after some studies. I understand overwhelming scholars of Islam from the time gone by held this view so I can be wrong but i am yet to see anyone to convince me.

Again, I think you wrong about Shia here. They believe in hadd of Rajm as well. I remember demmzy15 opened a thread about it last year and AlBaqir criticized me but he later went off for a month and came back agreeing with me.

He was however sectarian by blaming it on Umar (ra)

I just had similar 2days debate with a brother on YouTube late last week. Rajm issue becomes problematic bcus its so called abrogation and chain doesn't reach the prophet (saw)
It stopped with Umar (ra). That's where I raised eyebrows.

Bcus I disagree, some think I'm pleasing non- Muslims but that's not the case unfortunately. It's just studies.

Forget about criticism of Qur'an. That's never gonna end. Even Qur'aniyun we have here doesn't criticize Qur'an, he only has mind of his own.

sCun:
Yoruba muslims consoling themselves. That dangerous religion will never be up to 1% in Igbo land.

Okay, sir. Keep eyes wide open. Remember it was 0%. Right before your eyes it reached 1%. Watch it as it reaches 5%, 15%, 25%, 35%, 45% and by the time it reaches 50% with your wide open, you know you done like dinner

parisbookaddict:
Lol... so christians are now accpeting Mohammad whose jihadists murder christians.. so that obscure muslim propaganda website which is run as a da’wah orgnisation is not lieing right.. mr muslim ur al taqiyya knows no bounds... [size=17pt]by the way that cardinal is dishonest or ignorant..mostly dishonest he has been accused of dishonesty in the past[/size]..

I didnt expect better answer from you. Since he's more knowledgeable and better than you in ALL respect, your opinion does not count

parisbookaddict:
I can answer that.. yes i am..

Let's see

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i believe in one God, Father son and holy spirit.

You just SHOT YOURSELF in the FOOT with your CONTRADICTORY beliefs

Perhaps, you could see they dont even want to engage you bcus they know your mindset is programmed. I didnt know i commented so i dont think it is necessary to do so now. Bro, i swear your wasting ur TIME.

sino:
^^^ See Empiree, it is not about elevating Sahih Bukhari to the Qur'an, but rather it is the wrong approach in criticism especially with regards to Islamic scholarship. Islamic knowledge has rules and regulations as all other forms of knowledge, you wouldn't accept the criticism of a book written by a Professor of Medicine by a secondary school science student, that is not proper, on what basis would the student stand such criticism?!

I perfectly understood this. This is why it is also wrong to simply conclude as Newnas did that Sahih Bukhari is 100% and even trying to stick to that. This brings question if there is difference btw this and Shi'a's creed on their "infallible 12 Imam". I know there is procedure and standard on Islamic Knowledge

If you want to critic a narration, here are the questions you should answer: Are you an hadith scholar?! If not, then who are the scholars you are referencing who had also critic the said narration? Do you have facts?! On what basis was the criticism on? Have you read the explanations of the said narration?! Have you read other narrations with similar information?! Is your criticism sincere and are you really open-minded?!

Exactly my point. Everyone seems to be partisan these days. You can spot that here on NL. I have said repeatedly here that some muslims would not accept opinion of other scholars who are not known to have studied in Saudi universities. I have also said repeatedly here that knowledge of Islam is NOT restricted to the Kingdom of Arabia. They only famous by virtues of Makkah and Medinah. Yes, i appreciate their struggles for Islam but it is very wrong to shun other scholars outside of Arabia. This was the Khutba two days ago. The locals do not appreciate their scholars at all. They dont want to fund research projects by their scholars. But when a scholar or simply alim is invited from Saudi or it environs, they feel good like "here comes knowledge". This is trending attitude online and offline now.

Far as me, I don't just post criticism of any hadith. Matter of fact, i believe i defend ahadith here than those who claim hadith is 100% accurate. I usually dont see them defend any except to say "he is Shia, misguided shaytan". "He is sufi deviant innovator". Bla bla bla. I don't learn anything like that. My point is, it is not enough to say scholars don't have problem with certain hadith. They have gone and we must continue where they stopped. Challenges and new challenges will evolve and we MUST confront them. Confronting these challenges require researching old scholars (not doubt). Edit their works and input our research rather than just copying and pasting and recycling everything over. Sick of that!


When i said i reseach too, say for instance non-muslims quote controversial ahadith, if i dont understand them, i simply run a quick research bcus i know there is possibility it was already refuted. I sometimes edit their works and insert mine. In that case it is not appropriate for me to post the link since i edited their works. Sometimes, i simply search wide scholarly opinion and conclude. There is no way those scholars could be perfect. That's why i believe a hadith Allah will rectify religion every 100 years


إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَبْعَثُ لِهَذِهِ الْأُمَّةِ عَلَى رَأْسِ كُلِّ مِائَةِ سَنَةٍ مَنْ يُجَدِّدُ لَهَا دِينَهَا

“Verily Allah sends to this Ummah at the head of every one hundred years someone who will renew the Deen for her”.

Related by Abu Daawood (4291) and was verified as Saheeh by As-Sakhaawiy in ‘Al-Maqqsid Al-Hasanah’ (149) and Al-Albaaniy in ‘As-Silsilah As-Saheehah’ (599).


I understand what you saying generally. This is why i do not agree with Sheik Ilory all the time as well in some of his criticisms. There is NO WAY we could erase unflinching efforts of these men who have gone by bcus without them, we are nothing. Criticisms of any hadith should be done by scholars not by every Tom, Dick and Harry. It is also wrong to say everything they did was perfect.

If care is not taken, and we just let everyone just jump on a narration and start criticizing without recourse to the proper methodology, it wouldn't be long when some Qur'anic verses would be criticized, under the pretext of "individual research" not to mention that some so called Muslims believe that the Qur'an had been tampered with, and their scholars affirm this and they believe the original Qur'an is in the hands of a strange person in occultation.

I know. I have raised this issue with Baqir about Sheik Habib and he understands. I am not gonna just criticize hadith without recourse. Pay attention @underlined, i think this is part of mistake of the past Ulama if you take the issue of Rajm as a case study. Some scholars have argued that it is like stabbing Qur'an in the back by saying verse of Rajm USED to be in the Qur'an. And these scholars are not even based in the West, otherwise some would have said they are trying to please kufar is the reason they said that. That issue needs review. By saying verse of Rajm USED to be in the Qur'an is tantamount to what Sunni criticized Shia of - that "Qur'an in incomplete". Correct me if I am wrong.



I said before that Sheik Ilori and his supporters vs 'salafis' who criticized him should have national televised debates and sort these issues out. Otherwise, if we keep quiet on these issues, in the name of Sahih hadith is perfect, or because we don't want to criticize Hadith collections, we will continue to have these munafiqs who embraced islam for this reason, studied arabic and islamic sirat and then deliberately apostatize to create confusion. This is the case of nincompoop who called himself "converted2islam". He is now using those ahadith and silly narrations to confuse people.

Let me repeat this. It is unwise for many brothers here to simply marginalize Albaqir etc solely bcus he is a Shia. I have notice that. Do you brothers think he doesn't make any point?. I swear he does. I just don't want to involve sometimes. His approach to argument is scholarly - little it may be compared to others who simply cancel him out in one sentence based on faction. I don't learn like that. This Is why i don't support any sects. Allah does not recognise these sects at all. I can only be dogmatic on obligatory Rituals and UNIVERSALLY accepted SUNNAH. Anything else is debateable with wisdom.


As always, Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaiy wasalam) says to follow his Sunnah and Sunnah of his Rashidun. He didnt say to follow Bukhari. Sunnah is spread in all Kitab Sittah and also committed to memory. I dont have problems with Bukhari collections. I only have problems when some say it is 100% and are not ready for different opinion. They say if you want to debate islam, ONLY Quran and Sahih Bukhari and perhaps, Muslim are the only welcomed sources. Anything else is Daif and fabricated. This is trending ideology now.



Finally, believe it or not, there is nothing they can do with Qur'an. Even a Quraniyoon we have here is not drunk to the point of criticizing Qur'an. So dont fear that at all. I guarantee you they cant criticize Qur'an even the worst deviant people have not done that. It would have been obvious by now if that was to be the case.

This Is The Interview He Played

https://salafiaudio./2013/03/22/was-shaykh-al-albani-the-first-to-classify-some-hadith-in-al-bukhari-as-weak-videoar-en/


Questioner:

O our Shaykh the question is; was the Shaykh preceded by anyone in declaring some Hadith in Sahih Bukhari to be weak and collecting them in a book. And if this has occurred were you preceded by some of the scholars in that? We would appreciate references may Allah reward you with good.

Shaykh Al Albani:

Define the demonstrative, “in that”; in what? Because your question contains two things. Have you been preceded in classifying some Hadith in Bukhari as weak and did you collect this in a book? So in your question, “have I been preceded in that”, what do you mean? Have I been preceded in classifying some Hadith in Bukhari as weak or have I been preceded in authoring a book containing these weak Hadith?

Questioner: Both

Shaykh Albani:

(Laughs) Both? As for if I was preceded in classifying some Hadith found in Bukhari as weak then this is a reality which is obligatory to acknowledge and it is not permissible to deny it; and there are numerous reasons for this.

First of all; all the Muslims whether they are from the scholars, the students of knowledge or the ignorant Muslims; they are all in agreement that there is no one who is infallible in this religion except the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings are upon him.

And from this we also understand another undeniable conclusion and that is, any book that crosses the mind of a Muslim, or any book title that he hears of, even before he reads the manuscript, it is incumbent that he must have firmly established in his mind that this book will surely contain some errors in it. Because the aforementioned belief states that no one will obtain infallibility except for the Messenger of Allah peace and blessing are upon him.


https://primaquran./2016/02/11/salafi-shaykh-al-abani-admits-of-course-bukhari-has-weak-hadith-and-mistakes/

PoeticJazco

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Walaikum Salaam


It is reported by way of the Messenger of Allah (SAW) that he said:


“Whoever makes tasbeeh (Subhana-Allah) after each Salat 33 times, tahmeed (Alhumdulillah) 33 times, takbir (Allahu Akbar) 33 times, and completes a hundred by saying: ‘La ilaha illa Allahu wahdahu la shareeka lahu, lahul mulku wa lahul hamdu, wa huwa ‘ala kulli shay’in qadeer.’ His sins would be forgiven even if they were as plentiful as the foam of the sea.” (Sahih – Muslim)

lexiconkabir:
He has already been replied on the alleged rape issue, if you are a yoruba speaker, download the refutation HERE

I listened to this lectures. He tried to refute Mudir on Saffiya and I commend that. However, this Sheik Jabata is also potential literalist. Was just shaking my head as he speaks on duas even though he makes few points. It is funny when he claims Jinn gives Sheik Akindele dua and he compared that to Jinn of the time of Nabi Sulaiman. Unfortunately, that was a different case.

hajlat:
Bismillah Rahman Raheem. Allahumma soli ala Seyyidina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa as haabihi waselim tesliiman.
Brothers and sisters in Islam, why are we insulting each other over an issue that can be solved brotherly using the examples laid down by the prophet SAW.
If any of you Islamic scholars believed that Mudeerul Markaz Agege, has erred in his teachings, nothing stops you in putting it into writing and send it to him and wait for his defense.
I was present at the venue and what I picked from his teachings was that whatever that is detrimental to the personality of the Prophet SAW is not acceptable no matter who wrote such and since such things were found in sahih Bukhari, the authenticity should be queried.
Mudeerul Markaz SHEIKH Habeebullah ADAM Abdullah al Ilory did not abuse IMAM BUKHARI, what he said was that the SAHIH BUKHARI we have with us has been adulterated and he proved it. If any scbolar has a different opinion let him compile his and let the Islamic world look into it.
Another point he raised was that the manuscript of Imam BUKHARI is missing. Where is the manuscript used in printing the present day SAHIH BUKHARI In circulation? Some people came into Islam during that time with the intention of adulterating the Islamic religion by inserting alien things Into the Qur'an, and when they failed they came in through the Hadith.
Those of you commenting without being there or don't have the opportunity of viewing the whole videos ( not one or two ) should please desist from hearsay.
I am a Muslim, not an Islamic scholar but I have an open mind to anything.
Readers let me tell you, all these so called Islamic scholars knew what Mudeer is driving at but they are covering it from you and me because they think the enemies of Islam can catch in there forgetting that there are some non Muslims that speaks Arabic fluently and they knew all these facts because it's the input of their stooge and they are using it among themselves to preach against Islam. Imagine a Hadith saying the Prophet SAW enters the rooms of all his 11 wives every night and that He has the power of 30 men.
Markaz has promised to upload the videos on YouTube.
Rabbi zidni ilman wal amal bihi. Am in

Well Said JazakaAllahu Khayran. This is what I was trying to tell lexiconkabir. The problem is, DOGMATISM. Some of us Muslims think that if past scholars, as learned as they were did not criticize Sahih Hadith or simply hadith, who is us muslims in 21st century to point out problems?. That's what some of our brothers think. This is very wrong.

I also notice that some muslims who criticize Mudir dont even know how to listen to him properly. I spot that actually. Sheik Ilory does raised valid points. I have said it here several times that no book on earth is 100% apart from Quran but some brothers keep elevating Sahih Bukhari as if Rasulullah(SAW) signed it off. Sheik Ilory played Sheik Albani's tape in his Ramadan lecture where Sheik Albani said that,



anytime we read any book other than Quran, we must know hat the book is bound to have error



He played it live for audience to hear. I am personally still investigating some stuff. The reason i became suspicious of Sahih Bukhari collections is bcus, for instance, some forms of dhikr practiced by Sufi recorded in other Kitab like Sunan Abu Dawood, Muwatta Malik etc are expunged from Sahih Bukhari. This is not to mean we condemn Imam Bukhari(RTA). That's not the point. I grew suspicion late 2014 in a thread opened by tbaba. I see clearly some texts are missing from it.


However, I definitely dont agree with everything Sheik ilory is saying. I disagree with his stands on The Return Of Isa(AS), hadith about Safiyyah, hadith on killing people who dont say Shahada etc. I believe the Sheik decontextualized those ahadith. I also believe that both sides are playing emotional gymnastic on their listening audience.

Whether these brothers like it or not, there are silly stuff in Sahih Bukhari collection that go against Quran and dent the image of Rasulullah(SAW). Like you rightly said, there are bunch of non muslims trained to speak arabic and they used it against muslims. This is why some muslim renounced islam bcus they never heard of it. Then, again, they left islam out of their own stupidity bcus those nonsense simply have nothing to do with FAITH. They missed that.


This is why when there is debate btw sections of muslims, those who cry "National Anthem" i:e Kitab and Sunnah, used Qur'an and Sahih Bukhari. Other parties use Qur'an, and other Kitab Sittah etc. I found out about this when i was listening to Sheik Akindele's lecture sometimes last year. He said,



"We called them to debate and they must present verified and authentic sources Quran and Sahih Bukhari and Muslim but they came with strange books not recognized"



He mentioned those books which are infact recognized by muslims. Point is, they have elevated Sahih Bukhari to the point where, if you debate then and quote from other sources, it would be easy for them to say "Daif, fabricated etc.

Let me repeat myself, I do not agree with what Mudir Murkaz is doing 100%. I believe there are some ahadith he simply doesn't understand. And i think he needs to open Q&A section for his audience to test their thinking faculty. They should not just hail him for whatever he says that makes sense to them.


That's how you test good students.

udatso:
Oh......i have known you here for some years now. I have just avoided engaging you in any way cos most brothers always do but at the end of the day, it doesn't change anything.
Empiree has explained and countered every point you raised but you keep dragging it further. He explained the meaning of lail as per the saum fast, not reciting loud.. ...but it never changes your view.
In my opinion, I think you decided to believe what you think is more comfortable to you.

Dont expect him to understand anything. Here is his latest saga.



Listen to this man again. Is he now going too far. What does he not understand?

usermane:
Left because Religion section mods were moving my threads to Islam sections [size=15pt]where they force me to testify to other than God[/size] before I post and then eventually delete my thread. So, I felt it was time I left. You have Nairalanders here who share your views and back you even in your absence, I have none.
You 're only retiring from this section right? It 'll be good to know another side of you.

What is it this man doesnt undersrtand?. Which "other God" Muslim affirm in saying:


[size=19pt]La illaha illa Allah, Muhammad Rosulullah[/size]


Is This Dude Insane or What ?


Which Other God Muslim affirm here "There Is No Deities Besides Allah, Muhammad Is His Messanger"


Can Someone help what I am missing here?

Listen to this man again. Is he not going far or what does he not understand?

usermane:
Left because Religion section mods were moving my threads to Islam sections [size=15pt]where they force me to testify to other than God[/size] before I post and then eventually delete my thread. So, I felt it was time I left. You have Nairalanders here who share your views and back you even in your absence, I have none.
You 're only retiring from this section right? It 'll be good to know another side of you.

What is it this man doesnt undersrtand?. Which "other God" Muslim affirm in saying:


[size=19pt]La illaha illa Allah, Muhammad Rosulullah[/size]


Is This Dude Insane or What ?


Which Other God Muslim affirm here "There Is No Deities Besides Allah, Muhammad Is His Messanger"


Can Someone help what I am missing here?

usermane:
On a lighter note, don't you get tired? Aren't you bored of all this? Isn't this robbing you precious time? I know you have points in your stand against Islam but I feel you need to relax and just let it pass sometimes.

Whatever you do, just remember that true believers in God are very, very few and however much you show the truth, most people would still hold on to falsehood. In every generation of man, the truth is always generally rejected and the genuine believers in God are very few.

Peace and Love

Is parrisbookaddict monotheistic ? Answer that please

parisbookaddict:
Catholic view of islam is that mohammed was a false prophet.. no priest will endorse islam but may accommodate muslims as is expected of good christians.. the church is too diplomatic and polite.. is this a good thing or a bad thing.. well it depends on your point of view on current affairs..

Christian scholars have begun to accept Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

March 1st, 2016
http://unveiling-christianity.net/2016/03/01/christian-scholars-begun-accept-prophet-muhammad/




[size=17pt]Catholic Cardinal Declares Mohammed A True Prophet Of God[/size]

https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/2016/07/catholic-cardinal-declares-mohammed-true-prophet-god/#



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no one cares about Catholic views of Islam. The question is what is there view about Protestant, Jehovah witness and other non Catholic? What is the view of those churches about the Catholic

yazach:
wear anything, don't limit it to robe but extend it to"wear nothing" I promise you that no Muslim will complain. Just tell the rascals among your members to please leave our Muslim alone and allow them to enjoy their religious right.

I want to repeat it do whatever you like, wage war against the government, we MUSLIM are less concern. LIVE AND LET OTHERS LIVE

Thanks

E.mpiree
le.xiconkabir
Ril.wan
Yaz.ach
Ype.ace
Dem.mzy15
,Rilw.ayne001

brothers, I think I said it wella

This is their [size=20pt]PROBLEM[/size], [size=40pt]JEALOUSY[/size]

They Want Everything That Muslims Have & they will NEVER be PLEASED

Burger Of The Century

Some nice homemade burger. Anyone in this forum can make this as I perfectly made it?

Recipes:

Burns
Ground beef
Sazon
Onion

But we didn't hear anything in the media...smh

Where are [size=1pt]annunaki2, truthman2012, parrisbookaddict, malvisguy2012[/size]

Quote Of The Day

Iykestix:
But this doesn't look like a principle again na
How is stepping into the toilet with a particular foot and and stepping out with a particular foot connected to cleanliness??

Or is looking at ones private part an act of dirtiness?

Why must private part cleaning be an odd number How is that connected to cleanliness??

And the part that says one shouldn't talk when one is not fully clothed, does this also apply to pregnant women who is in labor?

Pls your answers will be highly appreciated
WORDWORL.D
parisbook.addict

u here to learn or poke fun?

Scholar8200:
It is therefore curious if , as muslims claim, Jesus was caught up and NOBODY knew it was Him till about 6 centuries after!!! Not even the closest disciples knew this and were killed for proclaiming His death, burial and resurrection!!! Wouldnt that be cruel?

I want to believe you are not going to the way of these bozos

usermane:
Hadith, Tafsir, Sirah, History.... You 'd really trade clear Quranic directives to abide by those? You don't seem to know me or what drives my stand for sola scriptura.

We dont know what future holds. But say for instance, you eventually become "Islamic Studies Teacher" somewhere, how you gonna teach without highlighted part?.

Drinkwater06:
ANNUNAKI'S view on Catholic and Trinity.


https://www.nairaland.com/3086804/annunaki-read-old-testament#45332404

We should note that both truthman2012 and parisbookaddict subscribe to Trinity which makes them a false Christian according to annunaki.

Truthman2012 and parisbookaddict both believe those who don't believe in the Trinity concept of God are false Christian and are going to hell, unless they want to state otherwise here.

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TRUTHMAN2012 VIEW ON CATHOLICISM

Truth man have once said how the same satan that engineered the emergence of Catholics was also responsible for Islam.

In a nutshell, he sees Catholics as devil worshipping non Christians.

https://www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam

He later said they are idol worshippers:


Other popular Christian sites don't see Catholics as Christians https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

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unfortunately, her royal Majesty ifeann a.k.a parisbookaddict claims to be a Catholic


Although she once claimed not to be a Catholic, but she's finally come out open to say the truth...

But then according to truthman, she is Ian idol worshipper. Other Christians don't see her as a Christian

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In a nutshell, 2 of the above 3 guys are confused, the question then Is who and who?

You are truly investigative journalist. You choked them. She doesnt know what the hell to say but to get Muhammad(p) involved. That's why they hide their doctrines indivudually. They good at At-Taqqiya

parisbookaddict:
Trying to get me upset with my good friends a.nnunaki and truthman.
I respect their rights to have their opinions.

By the way U dont need to call me her royal Majesty. Parisbookaddict or ifeann is fine..apparently u are not a regular in the religion section, people who follow my comments here know i am a catholic. I am of the view all christians are one as long as ur follow biblical requirements set by christ our lord.


2. The devil/allah is working hard sowing discord amongst christians. I dont care if annuki or other christians believe the trinity or not. If u deny that jesus is the christ, son of God and God and deny the father and the son then u are the anti thesis of a christian. If u dont follow the teachings of christ, accept him in ur life, get baptised and love ur neighbour as ur self etc then u have a long way to go before calling ur self a christian.

3. I have read that paragraph of the catechism and it is very at first disturbing . until i saw a commentary given by a catholic scholar. Now lets breakdown that statement.
The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

Yes we have a creator, one being , a diety whom has a plan of salvation for all mankind be them jew, muslim, buddist, hindu

in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;

This is the place i have an issue with this statement.. the frist place amongst them is the jews who believe in one absolute God, the christian who believe in one God comprising of the father, son and spirit.
Then believe it or not, the muslims who believe in one god living above the kabab in mecca..

The problem again with this statement is that muslims believe in an old pagan diety who had 3 daughters now known as allah..

Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt know islam well .

these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

Yes all these faiths profess to hold the faith of abraham.. but muslims do not worship the God of Abraham..

Jehova is not allah..



In no text in judaism is it taught that;
1. You need to pray so demons dont get u in the toilet
2. Shaytan climbs in to ur nostrils in the night
3. U can clean ur butt with stones and
4. U can beat women
5. U should colect jizyah from non believers
6. U can rape women
7. U can marry your sons wife like mohammed did
8. U can rob people
9. U can perform nitah mutah
10. That jinns /invisible people exists to torment u.
Etc the list goes on and on


Yes i am catholic a proud one.. proud of the crusades that saved europe and liberated Jerusalem and spain,

proud of the countless catholic missionary schools,

proud of the countless catholic hospitals and charity organisations which take care of even muslims.

proud of the countless souls they brought to christ ..

Like my favorite protestant christian preacher rick warren said, "some christians forget that Christianity didnt start with Luther, for hundreds of years after st. Peter, the catholic church spread and defended christianity"

Who Needs Your Epistle.

Your Doctrines Are Choking Me

[size=1pt] plappville[/size]

parisbookaddict:
A large majority of Muslim women hate the burka and hijab their husbands force them to wear..

Still finding silly excuses. Is that Burqa up there?. Oh well, those nuns too were forced to wear their hijab as well.

This single mother was forced to wear hijab too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bazRRt4pY

This single lady was forced to wear hijab too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGh2V9b3R78

This was forced too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5EXVE_TGI

You must be SICK

its wicked to force people to wear those dark uncomfortable clothes especially in 40-50 °c temperatures as is common in arabia..

Who forced these nuns to wear hijab and smoking WEED at the same time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZR9bBIItM

Why dont you become nun, hypocrite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXpVWD_zGE

Keep deceiving yourself. What's the difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3bEDF0ekow

i recently saw a story of muslim women burning their burkas after there town was liberated from isis..muslim girls who migrate to the east are known to bin their hijabs when they stop living with their parents.. its very oppress to ostracise muslim girls who show their hair and refuse the opressive hijab.. muslim women amd men in iran have for 2weeks been protesting about the govts law on hijab for women which forces thwm to wear it agaisnt their will..

Save your story for Uncle Paul(Saul). Who FORCED THOSE NUNS TO WEAR THEIR HIJAB?

However i have no problems if a muslim woman decides by herself to wear a hijab showing her face. She has the right to.. some actually think allah will be pleased they wear it..

It is none of your business what a muslim woman wears. Your problem is you the truth but your heart is hardened.

On the other hand
A nun is a celibate who chooses and not forced to take the vow to serve God as a celibate.. there are dress codes to be adheres to as a nun, not that nuns never cover their face.. if they feel uncomfortable with the hair covering ,

Ok, sorry. It is also dress code for muslim. You dont decide what they wear. Celibate my foot. I dont think you know what happens afte they smoke that OSOGBO weed. They get high and wanna get BANGE D , too. Keep finding silly excuses when it suits you.

they are free to reject and leave the convent. There is no compulsion.. no stonings, no persecution, no honor killings as is common with muslim families who kill their rebellious daughters. .

Bla bla bla.......hypocrite! like there are no christians who have killed their children for religious reason or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSFd5abzznE

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I that case, why do you condemn one but detest the other?. Any reason for that?

That must have been painfull I think ^^