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Aemmyjah:
You are attacking us for doing something that ur church knows nothing about
Ur church does not pass the bread and wine?

The goal post has been shifted, it's now about emotional blackmail

I quoted Jesus own statement about Emblem.

This is Jesus very own statement again: "Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.“ - NWT

MaxInDHouse:
You don't need to, the abuser has proved through his actions that he is not a true Christian:

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Romans 12:18

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 1 Peter 3:15

According to the above scriptures does the abuser proved to be a Christian?

So you know this and you'll be claiming you and your brothers are the True follower of Christ (because you claimed you're not a Christian) yet you and your brothers are full of insult & abuse on this same forum.

Hypocrite!

Janosky:
No Sir, the word @ Genesis 1 is God's creative power different from the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24, that is,God's messages, command that Jesus is doing obediently, John 12:49-50.
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This JaNosense keeps exposing his ignorance.

If The Word in Genesis 1 is the God's creative power.

Did The Word involve in creation activities before being called God's Creative power?

If your answer is Yes!

Then what did the word create?

MaxInDHouse:
I've answered because a machine can't explain the practical application of what we believe!

You didn't answer!

AI pulled Its results from different sources and in case of such question about Watchtower, it's evident that the AI pulled that directly from Watchtower.

So, you lied when you claimed Jesus ONLY became The Word after his mission on earth.

As a matter of fact, Jesus has been The Word long before creation.

MaxInDHouse:
Is AI part of those PRACTICING what JWs believe?

You haven't answered my question?

Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?

Aemmyjah:
Tell us the emblem Kumuyi gives wuna

I don't know any emblem Kumuyi gives, have you received emblem from Kumuyi before?

The criminal alongside Jesus also ate the emblem right?

Jesus gave him life on the cross.

Jesus' body and blood were on the cross when the thief had direct contact with Jesus.

So throughout Jesus ministry, he was distributing emblems so people can have life?

Jesus message is plain and easy to understand "Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect+ him on the last day; 55  for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.“ - NWT

Go bury ur head in sand

You have not shown me how the above verse was different from/contradict the EMBLEM

MaxInDHouse:
The point is you don't believe in our teachings so you can't understand what we are teaching.
Jesus has been God's spokesman in heaven before coming to the earth but it's after his earthly mission that we know him that's what qualifies him to be God's spokesman both in heaven and on earth: The WORD of God!

Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?

The fact that you lie can't justify my belief about Watchtower teaching.

It simply means you don't even understand the teaching of the body you claim you believe in

Aemmyjah:
Does this verse refer to the partaking of the emblems or exercising faith in the Ransom?
Your head is filled with sand 😂

Yes the verse is referring to EMBLEM.

You'll bury that your empty skull in shame by the time I start with you or as usual run away

MaxInDHouse:
According to JW teaching Jesus has been acting as God's spokesman in heaven

This is the point.

because of this is the reason Watchtower claimed Jesus is the Word.

So, you lied for saying Jesus ONLY BECAME THE WORD after his mission on earth.

That is the point.

Jozzy4:
This isnt a reference to Emblems of the Passover.

So what is this referring to?

Do you know the implication of the bolded red ? Did Abraham or Abel ate emblems ?

No, I don't.

Can you tell me?

Sand2022:
The Jehovah's witness leadership teach that only the 144,000 are anointed, and thus entitled to partaking of the emblems (bread and wine) during memorial.

Take note of what Paul said at 1cor 11

For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night on which he was going to be betrayed took a loaf, 24 and after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Ask yourself, what exactly is the "this" that you keep doing in rememberable of him?

Verse 25 answers:

Keep doing this whenever you DRINK it, in rememberable of me. Eating and drinking the emblem is what you're told to do to remember Christ's death. You're not simply to be an observer to remember him, you need to be a partaker.

That is in fact what Paul is telling the corinthians to do. He is reminding the Corinthians on the proper way to remember the death of Christ. He didn't say pass the emblem around to remember Jesus death, but that they should eat it as well. Eating the emblem makes you part of the body of Christ. If you don't eat the emblem, you're not part of Christ's body.

If you're not among the anointed, what more does it imply? Next time I will post about that.

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From their inaccurate translation one can still read Jesus message and no reasonable person will have second thought about its meaning unless someone who deliberately wants to twist the truth.

"So Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.  Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect+ him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.  Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him." - John 6:54-56 NWT

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misconstruing what we teach!

So AI is right?

Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9} it's after his successful earthly mission that he QUALIFIED to be called THE WORD both in heaven and on earth.

Can you hear the lying liar.



So you agreed that Jesus served as God's SPOKESPERSON in heaven before coming to Earth.

Which means I'm right all this while and you're the one lying.

The reason for that name The Word was because Jesus is God's SPOKESPERSON.

Oponu oniri oshi.

That's what Paul is saying in the Bible book of Philippians 2:8-9; Hebrews 1:1-2

No! That's not what Paul was saying just a delusion from your own delusional mind.

You're only bent on attacking me in person instead of humbly asking for the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of our beliefs!

Always playing the victim card.

You lied and your lie was shown to you instead of you to swallow it you want emotional victory.

It's evident Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth.

MaxInDHouse:
So the machine can teach you what you need to know but can't practice it shey?

Teaching me! Can you imagine this liar.

Look at the screenshot again: it says "According to Jehovah's Witnesses, before coming to earth,
Jesus existed as a spirit being in heaven, serving as God's first creation and "the Word," acting as God's Spokesman and helping in the creation of all other things."

It went further to say: "Here's a more detailed explanation:"

So which means the AI understood Watchtower explanation of Jesus being "The Word" ACCORDING TO WATCHTOWER OWN TEACHING.

Why did you think Jesus need to be human so we can learn through his actions?

Don't shift ground.

Everyone knows Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth as scripture says but only a lying liar like you arguing against the scripture.

Did AI misconstrued Watchtower is my question?

MaxInDHouse:
So it's AI that's teaching you!

No! AI only EXPLAINED Watchtower teaching.

And it's more knowledgeable than you.

So, if you accuse me of misconstrued Watchtower, does AI also misconstrue Watchtower?

Please what does your AI say about Creation story, Adam and Eve in Eden and Noah's Ark?

AI will tell you about Creation, Adam & Eve according to creationists perspective.

You think AI will say Creation is a myth or uphold Evolution over God's Creation

Meanwhile, your disagreement with both your organization and AI is evident that you're a chronicle liar.

Your claim first was that, that name was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

But Watchtower claimed Jesus has been "The WORD as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH."

The phrase "...AS A HUMAN ON EARTH" means while Jesus was on earth.

Jesus' mission on earth completed after resurrection and you as a JWs never believe Jesus remains human after resurrection.

But you want to make us believe that Jesus being the Word AS A HUMAN ON EARTH is still after Jesus' mission.

You're too dull.

Either Watchtower is wrong that Jesus has been the Word "...as a HUMAN ON EARTH" or you're the liar who try to shift the goal post here.

MaxInDHouse:
When did he became a human on earth?
And when was that appellation known among humans?

Here is the AI explanation again.

Shameless lying liar

MaxInDHouse:
Read and meditate on Philippians 2:8-9

This is what i've been telling you since nah!

It's after his successful earthly mission that he was given that APPELLATION!

You think I'm dull like you.

The statement read "as a spirit in heaven and AS A HUMAN ON EARTH"

Which means He has been The Word in heaven before coming to Earth and continuing being The Word on earth.

The is the same way AI put check it very well

Only a dull and unrepentant lying will twist a plain text

MaxInDHouse:
You misconstrued what we said that's why i'm putting you through after all you don't believe our teachings!

Of course, only someone deprived of formal education with a lying spirits will see a plain text like the above and call it MISCONSTRUED because he thought everyone is daft like him.

A personal title. “The Word” also appears in the Bible as a title for Jesus Christ, both as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth. Consider some reasons for this conclusion:

The Word lived before all other creation. “In the beginning was the Word . . . This one was in the beginning with God.” (John 1:1, 2) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation . . . He is before all other things.”—Colossians 1:13-15, 17.

The Word came to earth as a human. “The Word became flesh and resided among us.” (John 1:14) Christ Jesus “emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human.”—Philippians 2:5-7.

The personal TITLE "as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth" was explained in two ways:

1. The Word lived before all other creation: This is as a spirit in heaven
2. The Word CAME TO EARTH AS A HUMAN: This shows He has been The Word before coming to Earth.

Well if you disagree with scripture is it your own organization you can't disagree with.

MaxInDHouse:
LYING LIE LIAR LIE LYING LIAR LIE LYING.

What is the name Jesus was given after his successful earthly mission?

I answered:

"The word of God"

Present your own answer.

That's all!

See the shameless lying liar

Do you agree with your organization that Jesus bares the NAME THE WORD as HUMAN ON EARTH?

According to that article from your organization

Is my question

Janosky:

Emusan,Is Matthews 12:50 in your Bible?
Yes . Jesus died.

Emusan is Phil 2:8-9 in your Bible?
Yes.
Jesus died on a stake (stauros) .
Emusan, after Jesus died,what happened next in verse 9?
Which name, appellation was he given?

I've already addressed this but as you have nothing to offer other than dragging us back with your empty skull.

Phil 2:10 says the NAME(not a TITLE) is Jesus "...at the NAME of JESUS" that name "JESUS" is the key here.

Reason why the Apostles and the early Christians do things IN THE NAME OF "JESUS"

The Word has become FLESH with a NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME which is "Jesus"

Oponu JaNosense

MaxInDHouse:
He is just being aggressive for nothing!

Shameless Lying liar.

From your organization:

A personal title. “The Word” also appears in the Bible as a title for Jesus Christ, both as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth. Consider some reasons for this conclusion"

Notice how the name "The Word" said to be a TITLE(something never used in the scripture) for Jesus as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH.

Which shows Jesus has been The Word in heaven before coming to Earth.

But you a shameless lying liar who doesn't even follow his own organization teaching lied that the TITLE(as not found in the scripture) was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

Do you agree that Jesus bare that name THE WORD as human on earth?

In case you're blind I attached the screenshot as well

Janosky:
Emusan OPONU LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Shame on you, dunce.


According to jw.org, while Jesus is referred to as "the Word" in John 1:1, this doesn't mean he is the same "word" used in Genesis 1:1, which refers to God's creative power. "
Screenshot Evidence.

Very dunce WAILER

The fact that you can't provide evidence from your own organization but rush to AI shows you lack knowledge about your own organization.

Here is also another screenshot from your own organization and AI.

Which one do you disagree with?

Oponu JaNosense

Janosky:
John 14:24, Jesus is NOT his Father's words.

"The Word or Logos" is an appellation of Jesus a spirit being, different from God his Father's word, John 14:24.

John 14:24,Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12 is beyond your brain capacity to understand.
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The word of God is his Father's words, command, messages obeyed by Jesus from Genesis to Revelation.
Compare John 14:24 , Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12.

See this oponu....

Even your deluded organization says Jesus being the word of God is the same word at Genesis 1

Which everyone knows that at Genesis "...and God says" is the actual Word that created everything.

Janosky:
Which old testament prophet knew that the appellation "the Word" referred to Jesus?

Nothing like APPELLATION

There's ONLY NAME.

Where did you see appellation in the Bible?

possibly, most of the apostles don't know that appellation in John 1:1

Bible name say appellation but NAME.

Why do you people with your evil mind like your father the Devil changing the scripture.

Emusan, did Jesus expire at anytime?

The scripture: "In the beginning(before time) was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God...and The Word became flesh"

Does this show any expiration of time?

Matthew 27:50, the passage states that "Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up his spirit," signifying his death.

How does this against Jesus being The Word which is from Eternity to Eternity?

Janosky:
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.

Okay Mr just be deceiving yourself JaNosense

I bought a house through my Agent.
Is my Agent the buyer of the house.

No! Your Agent isn't the buyer neither can you claim YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE BY YOURSELF.

Can you say that?

I built my house through a Craftsman.
Is the Craftsman the builder?

Yes! The Craftsman is the BUILDER.

You are not the BUILDER.

Check your dictionary "To Build" is different from being a "BUILDER".

We keep teaching you those basic English since Watchtower deprived you people formal education.

Nah me wey tell Craftsman "Go build my 4 bedroom duplex for me",) I will take the glory (& say "I built my house" not my Agent (Craftsman).

You'll take the glory as The OWNER not as A BUILDER, you can't go to any construction site and for the BUILDER and the OWNER comes out unless if the OWNER is also the one BUILDING THE HOUSE BY HIM/HERSELF.

I know you don't even understand anything about construction project from inception to completion.

MaxInDHouse:
In the beginning WAS Mr President!

Just because Watchtower has brainwashed you about the truth of the God's word on Jesus Christ, you can spew this nonsense.

So Tinubu was also FROM BEGINNING which means no different from Tinubu and Jesus?

Very soon you will claim you're also from beginning to show there's no different between you and Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you find the word "APPELLATION" in the Bible?

No! because they don't have appellation.

Well that's the correct rendering not a name because it was GIVEN thousands of years after his birth which means it is not his real name!

No! The Word is a name from eternity to eternity.

If the name was given thousand of years after His birth that means the Scripture is lying by saying "and The Word became flesh"

Scripture have been provided yet you denied it.
Watchtower publications have been provided yet you denied it.

Can't you see your lying mouth being exposed?

MaxInDHouse:
You haven't answered my question.
Is Tinubu jagaban?

Do you believe Jesus isn't The Word of God?

Yes which is his Designation/ALIAS

Can JAGABAN appear in any Tinubu official documents?

This is not the first time I'm asking you this.

MaxInDHouse:
APPELLATION given to him after his earthly mission.

Do you believe Jesus is not the Word of God?

That is the question.

Before his earthly mission he is the angel of Jehovah who always represent God to save the Israelites {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} we know his angelic name when Daniel revealed it to us! Daniel 12:1-3

Jesus is the Creator John 1:1, 3; Col 1:16-17

He created ALL SPIRITS BEINGS INCLUDING MICHAEL.

MaxInDHouse:
The bearer of this APPELLATION became flesh and he was with God in the beginning and he was also a god!

But the Bible says it's "The Word" which is a NAME!

The Bible never says "He" was with God but "In the beginning was THE WORD"

At least TITLE is gone now, so we're left with NAME. So The Word is a NAME. Do you agree or not?

MaxInDHouse:
The APPELLATION given to him after his earthly mission not his name before coming to the earth!

Do you believe Jesus is not THE WORD OF GOD?

Is my question.

Provide where Jesus was called Michael before coming to Earth.

MaxInDHouse:
NO.
It's an APPELLATION!

The Word became flesh!

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

MaxInDHouse:
Where is the Bible verse that says the word is Jesus' name before coming to the earth?

John 1:1, 14

Or do you believe Jesus is not THE WORD OF GOD?