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immaculatesense:
Sir.
There are no reasons to answer the questions after I have respected your observations.

Thanks

I can't see where I said YOU MUST ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

tctrills:
My question is more like, can we separate the honour of the Father from that of the Son? Do we give greater honour to the Father and a lesser degree of honour to the Son or do they share the same honour?

Nothing like separation of honor.

Jesus demands THE SAME HONOR GIVEN TO THE FATHER.

immaculatesense:
Sir.
You can't honour the Father and dishonour the Son. You can't honour the Son and dishonour the Father. Whenever the son is honoured, the honor is to the Father.[
Straightly answer your question.
The Son is honoured just as the Father is honored.
John 5:23
[23]so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Thanks.

@color-red part is a bit disinformation.

Pay attention to John 5:23 you quoted @color-blue, Jesus was basically saying is that THE EXACT HONOR ONE GIVES TO THE FATHER IS THE SAME HONOR TO BE GIVEN TO THE SON.

We can then ask, how do we honor the Father?

immaculatesense:
Sir.
You have filled everywhere with questions.
Okay sir. No vex.

Thanks.

Did you see any sign of anger in my post?

It's good as you couldn't address any of the questions.

immaculatesense:
Sir
I understand your thoughts quite clear.

You keep claiming you understood my point yet you haven't addressed it.

I eat the emblem in my own church and I fully partake in it.

GOOD which you believe it's in line with the scripture.

Can you eat emblem in your church if it's not in line with the scripture?

I was invited and I know their rules. I could have said no, I wasn't forced.

Of course, I know but what is the importance of granting such invitation when you know the scripture you so dear and hold as God's word is being disrupted.

When I got there, they quoted and quoted some scriptures out of context on why people should not eat it.

And you feel comfortable in such gathering when you know this is all about SALVATION and eternity.

Do you think Jesus will be in a place where God's word is being applied out of context?

I knew it was out of context but I am a man of peace.

A man of peace won't be in a gathering of mockers and be at peace with him/herself.

For you to be comfortable in such gathering when you know things pertaining to eternity is being disrupted is called for a concern.

I was not called to disrupt their service but just as a guest.

What is the purpose of being in that service that has to be about SHARING CHRIST BODY AND BLOOD as I posted in the above verse without be a partaker of it?

Not eating it IN THEIR ASSEMBLY does not have any consequence since I may still eat it in my church later this month.

So what is the purpose of you being in that service?

Was the service not about the EMBLEM?

Thanks.

You're welcome

immaculatesense:
I understand you.
But since I obliged to attend and I was not forced and this is not even my first time. I know that they do not eat the emblem in that assembly. It will be insensitive for me to just pick the emblem and eat when it is passed before me.
That was what I meant by that statement.

Thanks.

Even though you claimed you understood my point but you didn't address it.

Now, on to the @color part.

You're invited and OFFER the emblem but you decided not to partake based on a set rules by the organizer.

Was that food a sacrifice offered to an IDOLS? No!

This is a SUPPOSED FOOD that is about The Lord.

This is what the scripture says about emblem sharing: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ?  Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf."; 1 Corin 10:16 - NWT

If you read downward, you can see how Apostle Paul used that to address the food offered to an IDOLS and how a VISITOR should handle it.

Are you supposed to avoid a food blessed in the name of Jesus Christ when the food was not offered to an IDOLS?

Is the food offered in Jesus name not suppose to be one of the best food without restriction for believers to partake?

If the scripture even allows believers to eat the food offered to an IDOLS based on one's conscience, how much more will the food offered in Jesus name?

I saw a video of invitation posted by a JWs and from the video the speaker said "Millions of people around the world will be at the memorial and guess what, you can be among them"-(not a direct quote)

Then I ask, what is the essence of being in that memorial service and not PARTICIPATING in the emblem?

In the night Jesus made that statement, "Do this in the remembrance of me" - were only few people participated in the emblem or everyone present?

immaculatesense:
I am on my way to the memorial. I was invited by a group of wonderful friends. I had attended during my youth service some couple of years ago. I wish to have a wonderful time. Though I won't be eating the meal because I need to abide by their rules.

Thanks.

What is their rules?

You should abide by Bible rules, don't you think so?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sure you are not a good person

This is the issue when all you do is seeking the praises of men.

You claimed his is not a good person but was taking the glory for his comments about you and that of @achorladey.

You want people to take you serious now and see CJStarz as EVIL person but you forgot I warned you then.

Anyways, this keeps pointing to one fact that all your claims on this forum are just pure delusion.

This thread is on POLITICS section and @CJStarz never even mentioned you. What are you doing in POLITICS SECTION to have found his comment which has nothing to do with previous posts about you and him?

Why such vexations on a thread that has no connection with you nor any previous posts?

You need to give Internet a space, this is not your Hall where you can use manipulations or (elder) to fool people.

Gabrielshow24:
Is that a sign of concession? 🤔 Aemmyjah must be somewhat different from the rest. I’ve never seen Max agree before! He always changes his argumentative colors like a chameleon! 🤕From one slippery slope to another 🤔, he ultimately arrives at the inerrant conclusion that he is performing the Lord's work! His decision tree leading to this conclusion would leave most AIs frozen, as such a dastardly act defies any logical reconciliation. 😔

They do have a lot of disagreement amongst themselves it's just that lying liar Max that do portrait JWs as having one line of thought.

See evidence below

Or maybe he has not really gone deep into watchtower brainwashing.

Aemmyjah:
What is your church name
Cos I know this description is not in Deeper Life

Here come Mr intelligent

But you didn't ask about my church name when you quoted my post first.

It's time to display your Bible knowledge you ran to "what is your church name?"

If my church description isn't showing deeper life, does that mean you and all your deluded brother has been lying for saying I'm so and so person including someone who is well know to be JWs(Ex)?

No matter how long lie may run truth will always catch up.

achorladey:
I need to quote this post again to expose the werey peddling brains of Janosky aka JaNosense



Let's substitute so you see how manipulations and lies work in the realm of Jehovah's Witnesses when they have a cooked doctrine already and have to show horn it into the Bible as truth

But the prince*+ of the royal realm of Persia+ was standing in opposition+ to me for twenty-one days, and, look! Miʹcha·el,*+ one (head, senior and first) of the foremost* princes,+ came to help me; and I, for my part, remained* there beside the kings of Persia.

This is the werey peddling brains of Janosky telling us based on context

When you realized that Jehovah is even the Prince of Princes

Aemmyjah:
Maybe I don't know or I'm wrong about the emblems and you know better

You don't have the mind of your own about the emblem reason why you might not be partaking about the emblem despite claiming to be a follower of Christ, but had it been you read scripture without Watchtower brainwashed, you could have seen that eating the emblem has no discrimination as stated by Jesus and without partaking in the emblem you have no LIFE IN YOU AND YOU'RE NOT IN UNION WITH JESUS. John 6:53-56

Kindly demonstrate how you and your church are doing it
So I can learn better

Everyone who believed that he/she is a follower of Christ partakes in the emblem without separation in our church.

Which is in line with the scripture.

Does everyone who claimed to be follower of Christ partake in the emblem in your hall?

Aemmyjah:
Who said John 6: 54 to 56 is about the emblem

I said so and you disagree by asking me if it's about the emblem.

Do you agree that John 6:53-56 about the emblem?

You're suffering from dementia old man 😭

Says the person who can't remember how the discussion started.

Let me remind you. I quoted the OP by siting John 6 of which you quoted my post in disagreement and asked "Is John 6 (that I referenced) about the emblem?

Why did you ask that question?

Let's agree it's about the emblem

Which means you don't agree before.

So, what does John 6:53-56 all about?

Are you partaking of it?
When last?
Is your church observing it?

This shouldn't be your next question(s)

Your next question(s) should have been:
1. Does John 6 separate people into groups; as one group partakes and the other group are onlookers?

2. Does John 6 actually reflect the fact that ALL BELIEVERS are to be a partaker of the emblem?

Na JWs be your problem
Oldie 😂

Emotional crying and wailing

Aemmyjah:
Only among Jehovah's Witnesses do you see people mention and use God's name
Only among them do they express strong hope in the resurrection and a paradise earth
Only among them do they observe the Memorial on the same night it was instituted yearly
Only them preach in the same pattern of the 1st century Christians


Emusan will keep on asking stupid questions for his old age tagging us as if we are not doing the right thing where as he's in the dark and can't even mention his own church

If my form of worship is a problem to you
Meet ur wife to console you (if you have any)

This type of wailing and pain is second to none.

I didn't quote you on this thread, you're the person who quoted me first of which I told you by the time I started with you either you chicken out or find excuse to run away.

You quoted me by saying is John 6:53-56 about Emblem?

Which I answered boldly, Yes!


Till now, you haven't provided just a single point to counter my position of how John 6 I quoted wasn't about Emblem but ranting up and down deflecting from the main point.

Yet want to be claiming he is intelligent

What is so difficult for a self acclaimed most well vast in the Bible to provide more insight about John 6 and how it wasn't about Emblem?

Or you have searched through your publications and Google and you didn't see any material to do copy and paste

Aemmyjah:
A monkey that want to remove a driver from his car
Yet, he can't drive or move the car
That's what you are
Keep wailing and gnashing teeth

Ordinary simple Bible discussion is what is causing this severe pains

You started what you can't finish.

Low IQ is so bad.

MaxInDHouse:
I was talking to my brother not you!

Lie lie....

But it's about me

achorladey:
Na to run remain or start looking for back up from their Trinitarian mentors according to Janosky aka JaNosense

That publication needs to be protected by all means before they use new light to erase it.

MaxInDHouse:
My business is with the OP who mentioned me not you!

If you don't have business with me, so why did you talk about me?

MaxInDHouse:
What is the religion of the OP?

Am I the OP?

achorladey:
Where is Truthseeker10? He was the one that started using Daniel 8 :25.

That one will just find a way to change the gear and continue to repeat himself on his own question

MaxInDHouse:
So if i warned my brother not to answer you how come you now expect me to answer you?

You didn't warn but lied against me.

So if your point is true.

Address my post, which is:

Your own is to proof how this and emblem that some JWs eat are different.

I just confirmed my post that I didn't even ask you question but made the above statement.

You can see playing the victim card I talked about before

achorladey:
Jehovah is an Archangel paapaa going by what they put there

Abi are they not the ones always saying Arch means chief?

And it was clearly stated that "Micheal is ONE OF THE FOREMOST..."

That screenshot has opened a lot of carn worm

MaxInDHouse:
Because you asked me a question!

I asked because you talk about me.

So what is your next excuse?

achorladey:
Agree ke?

You know how he used to manipulate his own organization teaching.

That's why I asked

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode!

Continue on the default mode then.

When you wake up.

Don't forget the my question.

Do you agree with your organization that ONLY Jehovah God is the Prince of Princes?

MaxInDHouse:
He is the one who mentioned me here i have no business with you!

Why asking me about his/her religion then?

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode!

Because you're short of lies

Do you agree with your organization that ONLY Jehovah God is the Prince of Princes?

MaxInDHouse:
What is the religion of the OP?

Ask him/her

Why asking me?

MaxInDHouse:
empty

Default mode activated

Christ isn't the Angel of the Lord.

Do you agree with your organization that ONLY Jehovah God is the Prince of Princes?

MaxInDHouse:
You are just wasting your precious time he will continue arguing whether what he is saying makes sense or not all he is bent on doing is to attack all JWs.

Always playing the victim card

My point here is centered on John 6:53-56 which proves that emblem has no separation but what all believers need to partake and without eating the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood you have no life in you and you're not in union with Jesus.

Direct from perverted NWT:-
"So Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect+ him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him."

Your own is to proof how this and emblem that some JWs eat are different.

MaxInDHouse:
empty

Christ isn't the Angel of the Lord. I've answered this already.

Do you agree with your organization that Jehovah God is THE ONLY PRINCE OF PRINCES?