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MaxInDHouse:
Of course i'm a Christian

This is all what I want.

Now, back with the OLD GROUP NAME.

Which means, you're bearing the same name that is CURSED and BASTARDISED

Then you DON'T BELONG TO JESUS CHRIST

From your own mouth below as seen below on the screenshot.

Shameless lying liar Jws.

MaxInDHouse:
There is no Christian who doesn't attend church services so what is the name of your church?

I've told you above!

But don't deviate from the main point.

Jws are not CHRISTIAN according to you.

Evidence below again.

I told you this will continue to hunt you.

OnknownSoldier:
I get your point.

Now, you understand that Jws also discriminate about others.

Or you didn't see it from that angle.

MaxInDHouse:
Today there is over 41,000 different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, Jehovah's Witnesses organization is just one whereas all these different religions are claiming followers of Christ yet they can't be since they're not having the same line of thought in teachings and doctrines! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

So failure to mention the name of a church means you're not one of those claiming Christians you're just trying to hide your beliefs since each religion has their beliefs which differs!

Yes! I agreed!

I'm one of those claiming to be CHRISTIAN and the Holy Book told me I should not be ashamed of the name.

Now, you claimed YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

Why do you asked that person who is a Christian? Is my question.

The person says "they (Jws) are not Christian."


Below your statements

MaxInDHouse:
Are you a Christian?

Yes! I'm a Christian l.

What is the name of your church?

Follower of Christ Church.

MaxInDHouse:
Who are Christians?

You already agreed that Jws are not Christians.

You shouldn't ask that question.

OnknownSoldier:
Note, I will get back to you

Copy that!

OnknownSoldier:
Are you arguing for JW or others?

I'm using God's word against some Jws doctrines!

OnknownSoldier:
I don't know if you are correct with some of your claims but I think you sound correct.

When is the time for the online debate?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you a Christian?

Yes! I'm a Christian.

Unlike a lying liar Jws who claimed to have left a name for us and still going backyard to be claiming the same.

The fact is, you don't belong to Christ.

According to you yourself.

You and your cohorts have BASTARDIZED that group name so you just want to hide behind the billboard since you're ashamed of all the groups claiming that group name.

I asked again, what concern you with what we do with OUR NAME?

Are you a Christian?

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION!

Shameless lying liar.

So you want me to agree with you in the first place that the name CHRISTIAN IS CURSES AND BASTARDISED and that I don't belong to Christ as long as I associate myself with the name Christian which you'll later turn around and be claiming it.

Lying liar jws like his father the Devil.

This will continue to hunt you forever on this forum.

NewNigeria2:
Do you believe others experience over yours? God forbid me allowing other to think for me. I have my brain for a reason

Yes! Sometimes our experience might not capture the whole scenario of an event, so if another person comes with more details and facts, a reasonable and open-minded person will take that over his/her.

Read the whole thread, from beginning to the current page.

The OP shared his own experience likewise do many people who have had personal experience with Jws.

I don't think anybody is asking the OP to do away with his own experience but I see people trying to tell the OP that it's because he is not actually getting DEEP WITH JWS.

Aemmyjah:
I can read and understand unlike you

Even though you can read, it's evident you don't understand.

Max mentioned a cursed, old group claiming Christian

No! The CURSED AND OLD GROUP NAME is Christian he is talking about.

Not that OLD GROUP CLAIMING TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

So you can see you don't understand.

You yourself know Jesus said people wi use his name to do worthless works...
Go learn how to understand

Very well but that's not what your deluded brother was talking about.

Let me break it down for you!

1. He claimed the "NAME" is CURSED and BASTARDISED

NOTE: Emphasis is on the 'NAME'

2. because the NAME is now CURSED and BASTARDISED, Jehovah has given them a NEW NAME, which is Jehovah Witness.

3. So Jws have left the NAME CHRISTIAN for the Christendom which means having NOTHING to do with the name again.

4. Reason why he said "Whoever thinks he BELONGS TO CHRIST under the BASTARDISED AND CURSED OLD GROUP name(Christian) should think twice"

Now, you and him are still claiming YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN.

Do you agree with him?

NewNigeria2:
what happened to experience is the best teacher? So he should drop his experience and start believing stories with evidence to proof their authenticity? Lol. Na wao

Do you also disregard others' EXPERIENCE as well?

It will be a dishonest thing to think ONLY the OP have experience with JWs.

OnknownSoldier:
Would you like to be invited to an online debate that will be transmitted online?

I'm interested in this!

When should I be getting ready?

From the horse mouth

If shamelessness is a person.

Just bury your empty head in shame.

Shameless lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

MaxInDHouse:
Mention the name of the church you associate with if your people hasn't brought a CURSE on the group name "CHRISTIANS" ?

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only true CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION all others are FAKE defaming the group name with your wickedness.

Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Freethinkers including your church goers like you have all turned their backs on that group name that's why you're ashamed to mention the name of your church because you know that none of you have what it takes to prove that you're practicing what Jesus the man called CHRIST taught.

That's why you're always obsessed when you hear the name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as you know that we can prove before everyone that we know what it takes to be a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} under the command of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6

So if you're claiming CHRISTIAN without mentioning the group you associate with it simply means you already know you don't have what it takes to be a PRACTICING DISCIPLE of CHRIST so you just want to hide even though all sorts of atrocities has been committed with that name and you can't substantiate with scriptural references why those disobeying Christ still continue claiming they belong to Christ! Matthew 7:21-23

Aemmyjah:
Again, JWs are christians
True Christians

That means JWs don't "BELONG TO CHRIST"

According to your deluded brother.

Janosky:
Which Bible verse did you explain in the post he commended you for?

At least you can't deny that commendation.

If your brain is working well, you'll have known the thread isn't about explaining Bible verse but using SCIENCE to explain God's existence.

But as per JaNosense you are you won't understand that.

Because you copy scientific facts from science textbook you done dey WAILING mode.

When it comes to using online materials, I'm not as dishonest as you people. If I had copied any materials online I'd do that with a quotation mark and probably reference the author(s). Perhaps, as you people lack basic understanding of English Lang, you don't even know when and where to apply simple thing as question mark.

Just say you're too dull to compose a well and articulated sentences like I did on a science topic.

achorladey:
This is the point you were trying to make them understand but they want to muddle it up despite their own religious publications stating the same thing.....

God blessed you for this!

The brainwashed must have been too much.

achorladey:
The problem I see in his position is, the same Paul that was inspired to write the others included in the Bible is all of a sudden only holy spirit directed to write one not included and at the same time not inspired to have written it

Very funny.

Holy Spirit DIRECTED Paul to write some but since it's not included in the Bible means it's not INSPIRED.

I can't still trying to imagine why someone will make sure illogical statement.

See this question they asked those getting...
What he has just said is that religious organization he had defended in times past being Jehovah’s organization is just a claim claim claim like MaxInDHouse always claiming

They know the organisation claimed TO BE DIRECTED by Jehovah, Jesus and Holy spirit.

So, to create the confusion they have to make you agree that To Be DIRECTED is different from being INSPIRED.

I asked the other one in other thread HOW does the Holy Spirit DIRECT Watchtower?

His answer was "I can see the evidence today"

Can you imagine that?

I then told him he hasn't answered my question, my question is HOW?

Jozzy4:
Listen to yourself
Gods inspired letter isn't selected ? If the letter isn't selected , how is it inspired and beneficial for teaching?

- 2Tim 3:16,17

You still don't get it.

To be DIRECTED MEANS TO BE INSPIRED.

Proof that wrong first.

Yes! Many things Jesus did also came from God but were not even pen down talkless of compiling them.

oteneaaron:
If I may ask, who was in charge of this "selecting"?

By Catholic!

The reason I am asking is because I have read the Nag Hammadi Gospels aka Gnostic gospels which is a collection it early Christian and Gnostic texts discovered near upper Egyptian town of Nag Hammadi in 1945.

From my research, I found out that it was the Catholic Church that did this "selection" if not, why did the Church have to hunt these Gnostic Christians and burn many of them to death for the false claim of "heresy"?

Well Catholic opposed some things as Christianity was spreading.

This is why is highly important to embark on a research into the early origins of Christianity.

That has been done years ago reason why you can know about Gnostic gospels in the first place.

Aemmyjah:
The evidence is clear
No other organization can boldly claim so

The question is HOW?

Aemmyjah:
Well, only Christendom clergy says things in the name of their god... 'Thus says the Lord' 'The holy spirit just ministered to me'

Smile.... it's casted

So how does HOLY SPIRIT, Jehovah and Jesus are DIRECTING THE GB today?

Aemmyjah:
Oga
Even your 101 contradictions begs the question

No! It didn't.

Aemmyjah:
Was Abiathar the chief priest or high priest when David went to the city of the priests? Who did David ask?

Read what I posted again.

Your questions are in there!

Aemmyjah:
Samuel and the Apostles were false prophets too shey?

I never said so but according to your deluded brother which you agree with it means they are false prophets.

because Deu 18:22 says "If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared."

So show me from the scriptures where Samuel or the Apostle says anything in the name of God and later found out to be FALSE.

This is what you people failed to understand or deliberately ignored.

Watchtower speaks in THE NAME OF GOD not just mere EXPECTATIONS by their own knowledge.

How long it will take you people to admit this?

Jozzy4:
If Paul's missing Letter was inspired , why isn't it part of the scriptures inspired of God and beneficial for teaching?

Why was something inspired missing?

because it's not selected. Jesus did many things that were not recorded.

You don't need to change the meaning of a word to justify nonsense.

To be inspired simply means to be DIRECTED BY GOD.

Jozzy4:
Anything outside of the written scriptures cannot be said to be inspired.

Pure lie! Inspired has only one meaning.

Which is FROM GOD!

While you and I can claim to be directed by the Spirit in our day to day dealings, its never the same as been inspired.

It's the same.

Why are you people have this confidence in lying.

Inspired means from it's from God.

So, how can I say Holy Spirit directed me to do something but it means I WAS NOT INSPIRED.

Does it make any sense to you?

To you Holy Spirit can DIRECT ME AND at the end it will be ERROR.

For the records, we have at least one letter of Paul that wasnt in the scriptures. Was it directed by holy spirit for use in encouraging the brothers? Yes. But was it inspired ? No.

So what Holy Spirit DIRECTED wasn't INSPIRED.

If it was, it would be a part of the scriptures.

Your own personal opinion not general understanding of the usage of the word INSPIRE.

It's evident claiming to be DIRECTED BY HOLY SPIRIT = INSPIRED and Watchtower claimed to be DIRECTED BY HOLY SPIRIT.

80. Was the high priest Abiathar (Mark 2:26), or Ahimelech (1 Samuel 21:1; 22:20) when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?

(Category: misunderstood the Hebrew usage & misunderstood the historical context)

Jesus states that the event happened ‘in the days of Abiathar the high priest’ and yet we know from 1 Samuel that Abiathar was not actually the high priest at that time; it was his father, Ahimelech.

If we were to introduce an anecdote by saying, ‘When king David was a shepherd-boy…’, it would not be incorrect, even though David was not king at that time. In the same way, Abiathar was soon to be high priest and this is what he is most remembered for, hence he is designated by this title. Moreover, the event certainly did happen ‘in the days of Abiathar’, as he was alive and present during the incident. We know from 1 Samuel 22:20 that he narrowly escaped when his father’s whole family and their town was destroyed by Saul’s men. Therefore, Jesus’ statement is quite acceptable.

(Archer 1994:362)

@Aemmyjah
This is for you.

This is number 80 on the article 101 Contradictions in the Bible explained.

You can see how True Christian addressed this without making it looks like translation issue.

Aemmyjah:
Why then did they ask questions and I did not shy away from answering 4 people?

ASK THEM and not me or you want to to read people mind.

You could not address OP

You mentioned me here, don't forget!

Or you think the OP and I are living in the same house.

but you asked him to check 101 contradictions without mentioning anything about it

Yes because that will have saved him the stress and time he is wasting here.

but I dropped content's and added mine and answered questions

And what has your content achieved, does it satisfy the OP?

The content you drop is to make other translation looks fake and elevated your fraud NWT.

Aemmyjah:
He's doing that based on your definition of what is false which you alluded to us

This is the hypocrisy.

Someone said mark made mistake, you pick offense with it but trying to defend your deluded brother who claimed a Prophet also MADE FALSE PROPHECY.

False is false I don't have my own definition.

Watchtower made FALSE PROPHECY and no! It's not EXPECTATIONS.

To make it looks like it's an expectation still shows how dishonest you people are.

We were not correct as to predictions of certain dates in the past. Maybe too hasty then. I call it unrealized expectations.

You're still showing your dishonesty by calling it EXPECTATIONS.

You applied the name OF GOD to it and turn around to call it EXPECTATIONS, is that how it works?

They are expectations that were not just realized at the assumed time but they are still expectations.

Expectation is different from USING THE NAME OF GOD.

HOW LONG WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP THIS NONSENSE?

Some of the first century Christians had unrealized expectations too regarding Jehovah's day but it was later realized

But none of them said GOD REVEALED IT TO THEM

Look at the below statement and show where EXPECTATION appears here.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

Samuel also had it too. He knew that one of Jesse sons would be King but his idea of who it was was hasty and unrealized but through David, it became realized

This is pure lie which is lying against God and His Holy Word.

The scriptures says Samuel "THOUGHT" which is very clear, it was Samuel's opinion and the reason WHY GOD quickly CORRECTED SAMUEL.

Where did God correct Watchtower?

You may call it false

Yes! It's false and there's no amount of sugarcoat you people can do about it that will erase that.

the Great Tribulation is coming very soon.

You're not the only one who is expecting it

The real question is, are you on the Lord's side?

Jesus is coming for His own.

Some of us have prayed that they enter the new world (some even confident) they'll enter paradise but they've gone.

Provide scripture to support it.

Aemmyjah:
Even where I did copy and paste, I added my own clarification in italics which you cannot see and I still explained them and answered questions from Kobo, you, Fz and OP. I won't be able to do that if I don't understand

You confirm it yourself that you lack basic understanding of English Lang.

If you do copy and paste, it not your work you provide a quotation mark and probably reference the author then people with understanding of English Lang reading your post will be able to distinguish between your words and others.