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badbreathcure101:
hahahaha now let me shock u, go and google and google (5x hotel designs, 3ds, elevations , sections, dwg files and see how millions of results will come up.

Okay now google structural detailing and calculation sheet for a hotel design and see if google won't ask you if u knew what u spelled.

I have designed numerous hotels bro, passed approvals. Architecture is dead already. I saw a programmer some few days and he said computer has been able to bring architecture to everyone but their problem is structural designs. He asked if I could get him like 100 templates and i told him maybe whe he's 80years old. Lol

You must be delusional if you think there aren’t millions of structural drawings and calculation sheets on google and lots of extensive tutorials by all these Indian boys on YouTube.
And I find it laughable when you say Architecture is dead, I sure you are only trying to be funny or to sound woke. We all know it’s a lie �.
Architecture in the US, Canada, EU and Australia remains one of the best paid jobs. You should do enough to google it.

Then, In as much as I’m inclined to state that you are peddling falsehood, I must state that there is nothing to be proud of in being a quack. A lot of non Engineers in the construction industry knows a lot and designs structural drawings but that doesn’t make them professionals. A whole lot! Plenty! Go to lagos and see a whole bunch of them. They are all quacks.! They do these designs, look for a hungry lazy engineer, pay him 5-10K and gets him to stamp it for them.
Stop being proud of mediocrity, if you are a professional, you should be chanting against quackery and not being one yourself.

badbreathcure101:
lies. No architect can do structural drawing. Coz u did a bit of strength of materials doesn't mean u know jack shit about structures. U know the frightening thing about YouTube,there are millions of tutorials about architectural design and concepts development but i have searched and researched not a straight tutorial about structures, maybe YouTube takes them down idk but an architect dares structures without an engineers guardians is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
Lets not even go into analysis can an architect develope a workable GA, if yes then a sane architecture won't generate a design with some ridiculous cantilevers in the name of creativity.

The most important part is loadings and acting forces determination, u think those half baked softwares that gives you Y12 @ 250mm are correct abi? Okay go ahead and implement.

It’s a big lie on your part too to assume that a civil engineer can do architectural designs.
You think I’m talking about 2 bedroom bungalow here?
Aren’t you agreeing with me when I say that both are not professionals when it comes to the field of the others?
Can a Civil engineer design a massive architectural design? An airport? A stadium? An Opera? And other massive masterpieces?
Dare a civil engineer to come up with a buildable masterpiece. Isn’t it a disaster waiting to happen? The law won’t even allow it just as the law won’t allow the architect undertake a structural design.

You talk about ridiculous cantilevers? Why are you scared of challenges?
I have a lot of big time Nigerian Civil engineers most of them based abroad who love and live challenges. They have the biggest paid for-softwares costing millions and are ready to take on challenges like their counterparts in developed countries. You only need to improve yourself.

You don’t sit in your living room, do an architectural plan of a non functional 1 bedroom bungalow and assume that you have arrived.
And yes, the Architect can do structural drawing for little structures but that doesn’t make him a professional same a civil engineer that can designs 2 bedroom bungalow.

Oggolden001:
please sir i really need a break down to all of this. Are you saying a civil eng can design any structure? Nd again i knw u're experienced pls, is civil engineering maths really hard? Like HARD. Becuz i'm an average maths student who can cope wit phys nd chem. Pls advice

A civil engineer can only produce the structural drawings of an architectural design made by the architect.
The two professions goes hand in hand.
There are many fields in engineering however that doesn’t involve the architect at all.

Also, there are many fields in Architecture that doesn’t involve the structural engineer at all.
However, when they both meet, the Civil engineer works only with the design of the architect.

Do not listen to people who will tell you that the Civil engineer can do the Architects works or that the Architect can do the Civil engineer works.
They are misleading you.
It’s a blatant falsehood that will lend you in trouble in an organized society.

Pick the course that suits your skills and your knowledge of subjects. You have had amazing advices above. Listen to them and leave the ones encouraging Quackery.
I like to advice people to do things legally.

brandsoncharlie:
In civil engineering they're sub fields like structural engineering that only pertains to structural analysis and drawings which is a branch of civil engineering.
In building drawings there's construction engineering which is under civil engineering design building like residential buildings, skyscrapers and others, before engaging in building drawings you must meet certain requirements and standards from professional bodies ABET(accreditation board for engineering and technology) which requires you to obtain a training in programs such as auto card civil 3D softwares, advanced softwares such as REVIT, ETABs, STAAD etc.
Please chill, architecture still has a long way to be compared.

Bros, you need to chilll. Architecture is on a league of its own. Same with Civil Engjneering. You are the one comparing.

Secondly, stop quoting all these stuffs you are quoting, they are all nonsenses! The softwares you mentioned are needed for the structural engineer to do his structural drawings and designs and not to engage in Architectural drawings and designs. After all, Architects are taught basics of structural drawings, some even go ahead to learn Some structural softwares. Does that make them professionals? NO.
Stop spewing ignorance. It’s not healthy sir.

Thirdly, there is only a body in Nigeria mandated by Law to license Engineers and that body is COREN. ABET mandating you to learn softwares is for you to master your profession and not to practice architecture. If you do otherwise, you are a Quack and will be prosecuted if found wanting.

Stop arguing with emotion.

witworth:
in a better country... The two together is structural engineering. But Nigeria can divide even egg yoke into grains. All just for embezzling money for each department and they can't even build a cable suspension bridge themselves, they don't even have any.

In a ‘better country’. The two are not same. They are completely different with different career paths. Haba na.

Architecture is a very old prestigious discipline
Civil Engineering is another prestigious discipline itself.
They are not same. They work together but are definitely not same and especially in working ‘better’ countries.

flyinnizam:
which year did u get ur nin?

2017
I used the NIMC app around March this year to create a profile and link my sims. I’m now dumbfounded to see this nonsense this evening. Lol

DEADALIVE:
The from my own little experience while i worked with cranebourg and dantata construction company...The architect basically works for the company and he does exactly what he is instructed to do bu the project manager bearing in mind cost valuation.

That is a Company.
When it comes to Projects, companies becomes single entities.
A Construction company can be owned by anybody, it can be owned by an architect, a civil engineer or even a non professional.
But then when a project commences, they become an entity answerable to a Client who pays them. The client can be an individual, government or an entity like a company too.

Now, a client is only mandated to pay a contractor when a Payment certificate is issued and the Payment certificate can only be issued when the AI (Architects Instruction) is certified by the Architect to have been carried out by the Contractor.
It is standard and legal construction procedure.

Like I said, it’s a TEAM WORK.
I don’t like to see people comparing and downplaying the other professions. Everyone is important to the goal.

brandsoncharlie:
I didn't say an architect can't do structural drawings, in my secondary school days I was taught by an architectural lecturer who knows how to draft structural drawings into sections, so I was able to build up from there.
An architect does not have the knowledge of structural integrity of a building and the safety of factor over his counter part (civil engineer).
So chill an architect still has a lot of constrain.

Read my point again, I said we should stop encouraging quackery.

A civil engineer that undertakes architecture designs is a quack! He is not qualified to do so.
Same goes to the architect that does a structural drawing!

The both can have a little idea of the other’s works but they lack the proper knowledge. That’s what I’m saying.

DEADALIVE:
You are the one misleading the guy....the contractor or construction company is incharge of paying everyone....
The architect can not achieve his objectives without the structural engineer if not all his designs will be modified on site as construction proceeds

First of all, I’m forced to say that you are wrong, the CLIENT is in charge of paying everyone and not the Contractor. Infact the contractor depends on the Payment Certificate as issued by the Architect on a project to get his payment from the Client.

However, my analogy is only in reference to the example which he gave and which is a fallacy.
The Architects works before the Civil Engineer comes in all projects.
However in small scale projects like duplexes, etc whic does not involve tender boards, etc, you must agree with me that the Architect is always the only member of the construction industry that is commissioned by the client.
The architect in turn then employs a civil engineer to do the structures of his designs and pays him off.

That is the analogy I was giving to negate his claim that it is the civil engineer who employs the architect.
In that vein, I still insist that he was misleading young people.

However, I agree with you when you say that architects can not achieve his objectives without the inputs of others. But then same can be said of the others like the civil engineers. They will have nothing to work with without the Architects.

It’s A TEAM WORK

Miscellaneous:
Architects will employ civil engineers when job gets complex because they dont have broad knowledge of the behaviour of buildings. On the contrary, a civil engineer can do what an architect does so no need for him to hire one

NB: I'm talking about the Nigeria. So dont relate my posts to the abroad work atmosphere

Oggolden001 Ahmerdibnz

You mean a civil engineer can undertake a vast architectural design of a complex project? Like a stadium? Conference centers?

Stop this joke bro. It’s expensive and misleading to the younger generation. Someone in the construction industry shouldn’t be found saying this.

brandsoncharlie:
With civil engineering you can work anywhere but architecture has a lot of constrains.
Civil engineers design building plans too and execute the project as planned. There are so many projects that you can be contracted to supervise as such on like architecture.
The list is endless.

That is quackery. Stop encouraging quackery.
But then in Nigeria, everyone can do everything tho.
An architect in many instances with the use of some structural softwares and little coaching can do the structural drawing for his designs. So, that cancels your idea about a civil Engr doing an architects work.

Everyone can do everything but that is QUACKERY AND ILLEGAL!

Ahmerdibnz:
Go for civil Engineering, not because I'm a civil Engineer but i think it's better than Architecture

As a civil engr you will be the one to employ the architec.

Stop this bro. You are misleading the boy.
It’s a blatant lie!
It’s basically the other way round in a typical Construction setting.
The Architect does his designs, then employs the service of the structural engineer for the structure and pays him off.

It’s better to just advice the boy based on true facts and not your imaginations.

Saint99:
Go for Civil Engineering. In the nearest future, anyone with a good design software or App can design a building.

In the nearest future when the law is taken seriously, that is quackery and will land the so called ‘anyone’ in jail.

It keeps telling me ‘User ID does not exist’

But then I have my NIN and I used the NIMC app to register my phone lines.
Why then is it telling me ‘User ID does not exist’? even after requesting for pin? Nawa ooo

JeffreyJunior:
This guy doesn't have the looks and charisma of the kind of governor we need in my state biko.

Now it's gotta be Soludo and no one else.

Dude looks like Ugwuanyi... chai

BetExpert:
True, but why will City want to be complacent on the UCL finals that they have been chasing since forever and may never get this chance again in another many years to come? Ask yourself why will the same Man City that is the ONLY team in this UCL that didn't lose a single match want to be complacent in the finals they worked so hard to get to, beating the best teams like Dortmund with Haaland, PSG (that beat Bayern) etc, teams that would have destroyed Chelsea? Regardless, I agree with you, complacency can come for Man City but not tonight

Yen yen yen! Okoto meow meow�

Why not Thursday and Friday? E get why.
Someone would now rest Wednesday and Thursday, then suddenly go to work on Friday only to go back for the weekend.

You can’t even travel. Mtcheeew

YoungLionken:
You're the one shying away from the truth..

Before the Nigerian government knew, Ojukwu had already recruited his boys that had military training in Gabon...

It’s a Simple question and a simple answer.

Who declared War?
Shikena. Stop beating around the bush and sugar coating it.

I’m not asking you for reasons that led to the civil war. I’m only asking ‘Who declared the war’ and History tells us that it was Gowon and his SMC that declared War.
Thank you

EndBuhariNow:
and for ur mind u are telling someone that uses Nigeria data to access Google map,

Oga, those of us who have been there are telling you the reality of things.

You are sitting behind your desk somewhere far away typing in stuffs and getting fed by google map.
Airport to Onitsha is not more than 25 mins.

If you don’t believe us, leave your desk and take a drive yourself.
In your mind now, you are smart. Stay humble and admit corrections when one is made to you.

YoungLionken:
Just as I predicted..

How do you start a war, by gunshot? What about our forefathers that went to war with bows and arrows??

Ojukwu (indirectly) declared war by officially seceding from Nigeria( one good thing about the Igbos, is that, they are very smart or maybe cunning when dealing with people).

Ojukwu declared war by declaring the republic of Biafra on the early hours of July, with the knowledge that the Nigerian government would retaliate. And just as predicted..

Your last sentence has all the maturity in this context.. Welcome ...

You are running away from the fact.
Who declared war? It’s a simple question.

Nigeria did.
Secession is not war.
Nigeria might as well just let Biafra seceded peacefully but they declared a war. That’s my point.

Those who are against the siting of the Airport in Umueri are either Pained it’s not in their village (selfish interest) or are Ignorant on issue of Feasiblity studies for such projects.

Now listen, If you site the Airport in Onitsha, it becomes far from the populace in Awka. If you build it in Awka, it becomes Useless and far from the populace in Onitsha.

Now, don’t you think the Government was smart enough to build it in a centrally located place such as Umueri which is just approx. 20 and 25 mins away from Onitsha and Awka respectively?

Don’t condemn things because it doesn’t suit your agenda. The well-being of everybody is paramount and more important than a single persons selfish agenda.

And for those saying there is nothing in Umueri to warrant the airport being built there, Shege to all of una.
Should the Government keep pumping all her developments in selected few places instead of diversifying?
Anambra is looking to become a City State and not a State with one or two cities.

Hide your pains and selfishness and stop displaying it here on Nairaland. Ndi uchu!

EndBuhariNow:
Good development to ndi Anambra, but if you ask me , the geographical location of the airport is out of place . I checked the distance from nnewi to umuneri its 1:40 minutes drive and from onitsha to umuneri 1:20 minutes, remember this is Google calculation and if u add police checking points, Agbero stop and check tax receipts and long gueue of motorists trying to navigate through the traffic it will take you approximately 2 to 3 hours to get to the airport imagine wasting 3hrs on the road if u are coming from industrial hub of the state Onitsha and nnewi.. what's the need of wasting 3hrs going to Anambra airport when asaba airport is less than 40mins drive from nnewi and 25mins drive from onitsha, you might criticize me or call me all kind of unprintable names but Las Las people will opt for Asaba than this one in umuneri... what happened to oba airport Oba airport with it geographical location to nnewi and onitsha seaport would've been a moneybag to ndi Anambra generally , it would've drive massive development that will rival Lagos and others. Major sole reason of this airport is to cut short the stress our businessmen/women mostly from nnewi and onitsha passes through to access their various business destinations.. I honestly see no economic value of this place where it situated, at time we allow sentiments to be cloud of thinking faculty during decision making... he should've built it in Aguleri since he want airport to ferry him from his village to Abuja... once again I said congregations to Ndi Anambra... maybe ur Google map and mine are different

Oga, I find it better to ask questions when one is not in the know.

Onitsha to Umueri is approx 25mins. Same as from Awka.
Tha Airport is centrally located.

YoungLionken:
Pmb has failed woefully but I don't support the division of the country..

The Igbos are great but behave like the typical Nigerian lady..

They are always the first to look for trouble but,cry foul when their actions hit back at them!

Ojukwu started the civil war, we know how it went down. Nnamdi Kanu now...

Ojukwu didn’t start the civil war.
Read your history books and stop misinforming the public.

Gowon declared war on the break away Biafra Republic.
The first gun shot of the war was fired by the Nigerian Forces.

Having Said that, War is Bad but we don’t need to twist History to make our points. Thank you.

The stuffs they are holding might be fake anyway but they are obviously security operatives. How did I know?

Look at how they both held their fire arms.
Position of the finger around the trigger guard tells you what you need to know about a trained security operative.

Why is Chinwe Owoh not in the list? It’s not a complete list ooo. Lol

But truly speaking, I always cry along with Nkiru Sylvannus whenever she is crying. Chai.
And Nollywood always knows how to add some sorrowful music track to make you breakdown while watching the trio of Nkiru, Hilda and Chinwe Owoh ��

Try it in Nigeria. And
Firstly, your Pub would be closed or an accidental fire incident will erupt the next week burning your pub

Secondly, the DSS will invite you

Thirdly, The whole country will be divided in support according to your region. If you are a southerner, the south will support you and the north will oppose you, Vice verse.

Bro, you’ve answered the question yourself.
Cameroon doesn’t recognise Dual Nationality.
Nigeria does.

You want to go to America, a country that recognises dual Nationality which means that with a Nigerian Passport and fulfilling all obligations, you can also become an American Citizen while still a Nigerian Citizen.
Cameroonian passport wouldn’t let you become American.

Forget all the nonsenses you hear. In the comity of Nations, Nigerians as a people and not as a government are known more for their achievements rather than their short fallings. You can tap into that.

Corruption wise, Nigeria and Cameroon are basically same. Both countries are fantastically corrupt according to corruption indexes. So?

William Obiano - 6/10

Chucks234:
he wasnt born royal.

He was born a Greek Royal. The facts are there.

gnykelly:
Where is the money coming from. Cos i don't see it coming from your balance sheet.

Are you his accountant? Smh

adolfHitler1934:
If drunkenness is the medicine that makes him perform then why worry yourself....na your bele the drink dey go?

Please get him a tank load of liquor to make him perform excellently jare.

Gbam! You just said the plain truth. Non Omambala people and their hate for Obiano.

Why exactly are they pained? I don’t know. It’s no longer about his performance but about him drinking.
People sef.