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 Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dilemma by Enigma(m): 10:25am On Oct 14, 2011 |
Whatever one thinks of Pascal's wager, while the evangelical atheist mumus would have you believe that it has been "refuted" they conveniently "overlook" the fact that the so-called "refutation" is based on spurious and false logic - typical of the mumus' sleight of hand.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 9:23pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
 More trolling, then!Anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see a mumu and the worst case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Fact! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 9:04pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
Hmmm, flying spaghetti monster. That's one down.  How many more to go from the evangelical atheists' stock? Invisible pink unicorn? Sussicorn? Russell's teapot? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
^^^ When some people have become figures of fun, they are to be taken seriously only when necessary; otherwise they are to be treated as . . . well, figures of fun.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 5:30pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
^^^Abeg go siddon. What I said stands and is indeed ipso facto or if you like res ipsa loquitur (I guess your "lawyer" is around, I would expect him to be able to explain those; but then, maybe not). Anyhooooo the fact remains: no matter the circumstances anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see the worst case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. QED Edited - typos and all that. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 5:16pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
thehomer:As I have said repeatedly: anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see the very worst case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Moderators Rename The Religion Section To: "Bash Christianity" Section? by Enigma(m): 5:11pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
One interesting thing about the evangelical atheists in particular is their thin skin! They had been having a field day for quite sometime and then when they got a comparatively small dose of their own medicine for a few days many of them started whining like sissies and pansies - complaining that their very legitimate title of evangelical atheist (among others) is offensive and all that! Nonsense --- if you can dish it, be prepared to receive it when it comes your way! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 2:17pm On Oct 13, 2011 |
davidylan:You expect him, him of all people, him, to stop saying nonsense! That will be the day. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 11:02am On Oct 13, 2011 |
I was hoping to hear from either cold or Idi-Amin who are the other people championing this Leopold letter. As cold in particular don disappear, e be like say the thread has been an own goal in the end. {Digression: reminds of watching poor and beloved Odiye score an own goal in 1977 to keep Naija out of the world cup; that period 77-82 in particular was rather painful for Naija's world cup aspirations; in those days grown men on TV e.g. Dele Adetiba, Yinka Craig (RIP) etc used style style to conceal tears as Naija suffered another heartbreak! Hmmm, those were the days! } |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Lead You To Marry Someone You Don't Love? by Enigma(m): 10:45am On Oct 13, 2011 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Lead You To Marry Someone You Don't Love? by Enigma(m): 10:16am On Oct 13, 2011 |
debosky:Cool, I agree with you by and large on the interpretation of Hosea. On the general topic title, I personally would say 'never say never'. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can God Lead You To Marry Someone You Don't Love? by Enigma(m): 9:20am On Oct 13, 2011 |
@ debosky I don't know if this has been mentioned but please read the book of Hosea! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Money Cometh & The Anointed Money Ritual: Exposed! by Enigma(m): 8:22am On Oct 13, 2011 |
^ No matter how many times one sees it, it is still just insane. Muguness is almost as bad as mumuness! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:11am On Oct 13, 2011 |
Even the poster cold wey start the thread and bin dey make shakara don take style disappear (army don disappear . . . . dem regular trade mark )At least the disappearance fit mean say hin get some small sense pass the other gormless mumu. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 9:10pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
Provide some evidence that the Leopold letter is genuine --- or face the reality of what you are. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:41pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
As I always say: anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see a mumu! And it is amazing how they are all, to a man, incredibly stooopid, obtuse and dishonest. A wise and honest person would have said loooooooong ago: "surprisingly, I cannot find anything to prove that the letter is genuine, you know"! And the discussion would have long moved on. Instead the evangelical atheists would rather lie, wriggle, play all kinds of sleight of hand ---- until they are exposed for the mumus that they are. Happens all the time! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:08pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
All the above is your own problem! What you have to do, which you have failed miserably at and which you are either too proud or dishonest to acknowledge, is show some proof that the Leopold "letter" is genuine! Show me the money! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 7:46pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
So far you have shown that the Leopold "letter" exists or is "genuine" in just the same way as you atheists' favourite things e.g. Russell's teapot The invisible pink unicorn The flying spaghetti monster Sussicorn etc etc, please add others that I have forgotten presently, thanks. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 6:26pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
See your life outside! So you never had any proof of the genuineness of the letter? Of course you never did! You see I knew that already; I even gave you several chances to back off ---- but you were too unwise to see that I was giving you escape routes. Now, you have come to a dead end. You cannot find the letter in the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia that you were making noise about. Now you've linked to a copy of the letter ---- when everyone knows that there are copies of the letter extant. Just like there are copies of letters by Sanusi, Soludo --- you name it --- offering to deposit millions in total strangers' bank accounts. If you are the kind of person who reaches a conclusion on a simple matter so shoddily and who is so unwise to take an escape route or to know when to back-pedal, don't you now realise that it is a bit presumptuous of you to be able to speak about the non-existence of God? Again, I would have said to you "think about it" but I now realise it would be wasted. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 5:59pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
^^^ OK please quote the Leopold Letter from a page in the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia and provide a link directly to the page. Is that too hard for you ----- or perhaps you need to face the fact that you are just deceiving yourself? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 5:54pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
harakiri:Where is the Leopold Letter in the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia?!!! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 5:37pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
In honesty I actually really hate name-droppers, as I was telling the former American president Bill Clinton the other day. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 5:14pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
For starters you have not shown where the Leopold Letter is to be found in the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia!!!! Secondly, everyone knows the letter is on the Internet just like there are several {other} 419 letters on the Internet. So providing two links is nonsense**; oh what about all those 419 letters in the name of Sanusi, Soludo, etc etc --- sooooo their presence on the Internet means they are genuine? Oh yes, the late Chief obafemi Awolowo captured it very sagely when he said: "don't believe everything you read on the Internet!" I have actually resolved not to school you on this letter other than to expose the absurdity of your situation but let me give you just a little Bosom-bit*. This is the apparent origin of the letter, I would have said to you "think about it" but I don't think I would now bother with even that! “The above speech which shows the real intention of the Christian missionary journey in Africa was exposed to the world by Mr. Moukouani Muikwani Bukoko, born in the Congo in 1915, and who in 1935 while working in the Congo, bought a second hand Bible from a Belgian priest who forgot the speech in the Bible. — Dr. Chiedozie Okoro * Language filter again ---- I guess bosom-bit is nice enough! ** In fact none of your links is even to the letter at all ---- let alone to its source! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 4:45pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
Why are the atheists always like this --- obtuse or dishonest! I said you insulted people (not necessarily me) - which you did - or are you about to deny that? Where is the Leopold letter in the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia? Please provide that first before we go further. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 4:16pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
^^^ So basically, you were just talking nonsense when insulting people on this thread since you have no proof that the Leopold "letter" that you've been relying upon is genuine! The question now is are you a big enough man or an honest enough man to admit that you do not know and have no proof of the genuineness of the Leopold letter? Note also: you are now asking me to school you about the genuineness of the letter; I can do so ---- but you have to at least show some humility as well as intellectual honesty. In fact, that point about 'intellectual honesty' is very much the connection to the now tiresome atheists claim that "only theists have a burden of proof"; I had assumed you were clever and honest enough to see and acknowledge the link. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 2:45pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
Nope! I don't operate like that. If I say I have something then put money on it that I have it. So what is it: are you going to honestly face/address the issue I posed to you in my last two posts? If you are not, then I cannot ever take you seriously if you again say "only the theist has a burden of proof" --- (really, not that I ever took those who say such things seriously anyway). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 2:24pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
@ Harakiri Let me put it in another way for you: let us say your letter exists in just the same way as you atheists' favourite things e.g. Russell's teapot The invisible pink unicorn The flying spaghetti monster Sussicorn etc, please add the others that I've presently forgotten. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 2:22pm On Oct 12, 2011 |
Look at this: Scenario 1 Harakiri: I disbelieve the existence of God because there is no proof. Enigma: can you prove there is no God? Harakiri: I don't have to prove there is no God; only those who say there is a God have a burden to prove that he exists Scenario 2 Harakiri: see, this Leopold letter shows that Christians are fools. Enigma: Can you prove to us that the letter is genuine and not fake. Harakiri: No, you prove to us that the letter is fake and is not genuine. @ Harakiri, do you not think something is wrong with that kind of approach? If on the one hand you say it is those who make a claim regarding god that have a burden of proof, then is it not also the case that it is those of you who put forward this letter (and were insulting people all over the place) who have a burden of proof, a burden to prove that the letter is genuine? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:39am On Oct 12, 2011 |
I have deliberately been cautious with my language to provide occasion for proof. Let us see if cold, harakiri etc have anything as backup. Otherwise, there are certain facts and logical analysis of other events and genuine letters that suggest that this particular one is fake. Even internal analysis of the letter suggests that it is fake; look, even in the 19th century there was such a thing as diplomatic subtlety and it is unlikely that any sensible "diplomat", especially a king, would have written in such overt terms. Anyway, I will wait to see what support anyone can put forward as proof of genuineness before putting the other matters I referred to into consideration here. Again though I maintain my caution and I am simply asking currently to be educated on the genuineness of the "letter". |
| Christianity Etc › Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:10am On Oct 12, 2011 |
I still have not found any evidence that the Leopold "letter" is genuine*; so I'm still honestly waiting to be educated!  Does any of the other protagonists want to try and provide proof - especially those throwing insults all over the place on the back of the "letter"? cold aka opening poster? harakiri? etc etc? * PS I acknowledge that I don't yet have enough evidence that it is fake yet. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nigeria-guinea Next Saturday (0-1) Today's Prophesy By T.b. Joshua by Enigma(m): 11:49am On Oct 09, 2011 |
Let us start with some positives in favour of TB Joshua, he said some things that are accurate albeit in generic terms: 1. Whoever scores first will "carry the day" 2. It will not be favourable for Nigeria However, let me also say upfront that, while I have no proof, I strongly suspect that this particular video has been doctored with careful editing. In fact I suspect the same of other TB Joshua prophecy videos. Specifically on the one above: 1. When TB Joshua's followers and supporters told us of the prophecy before the match, according to them, TB Joshua said the teams were struggling for one goal e.g. Joagbaje:2. In fact the first person to start a thread on the prophecy did confirm a prediction of 1-0 and headlined that in thread title. (EDIT i.e. this very thread) 3. A Newspaper claims (unless they are lying) that TB Joshua confirmed to them that the result would be 1-0 Link: http://tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/sports/5490-eagles-beware-prophet-tb-joshua-warns.html AS Nigeria gets set for the crucial 2012 Nations Cup qualifier against Guinea today at the Abuja National Stadium, renowned cleric, Prophet Temitope Joshua said the team needs serious prayers to emerge victorious in the encounter.My own suspicion is that the video above has been edited such as to cut out those bits suggesting (strongly, apparently) a 1-0 result; in other words some "film-trick" is going on here. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Watch The Video Clip Of When Tb Joshua Predicted Guinea Vs Nigeria Match by Enigma(m): 11:44am On Oct 09, 2011 |
Let us start with some positives in favour of TB Joshua, he said some things that are accurate albeit in generic terms: 1. Whoever scores first will "carry the day" 2. It will not be favourable for Nigeria However, let me also say upfront that, while I have no proof, I strongly suspect that this particular video has been doctored with careful editing. In fact I suspect the same of other TB Joshua prophecy videos. Specifically on the one above: 1. When TB Joshua's followers and supporters told us of the prophecy before the match, according to them, TB Joshua said the teams were struggling for one goal e.g. Joagbaje:2. In fact the first person to start a thread on the prophecy did confirm a prediction of 1-0 and headlined that in thread title. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-773184.0.html 3. A Newspaper claims (unless they are lying) that TB Joshua confirmed to them that the result would be 1-0 Link: http://tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/sports/5490-eagles-beware-prophet-tb-joshua-warns.html AS Nigeria gets set for the crucial 2012 Nations Cup qualifier against Guinea today at the Abuja National Stadium, renowned cleric, Prophet Temitope Joshua said the team needs serious prayers to emerge victorious in the encounter.My own suspicion is that the video above has been edited such as to cut out those bits suggesting (strongly, apparently) a 1-0 result; in other words some "film-trick" is going on here. |
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