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Christianity EtcRe: Will There Be 'free Will' In Heaven by Enigma(m): 11:35pm On Oct 16, 2011
^^^

Trolls try to disrupt, destroy or change discussion groups to fit their own agendas. Trolls are pinheads!
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Christianity EtcRe: Will There Be 'free Will' In Heaven by Enigma(m): 8:25pm On Oct 16, 2011
^^^

Trolls are pinheads.
These trolls like to visit and try to disrupt our happy forum. Their lowly reason for existence is to post provocative, hostile or annoying messages. They claim they are here to discuss, but in fact are just here to cause trouble.
Christianity EtcRe: Will There Be 'free Will' In Heaven by Enigma(m): 8:13pm On Oct 16, 2011
thehomer:
But the devil sinned in Heaven. How was he able to do this without temptation?
Trolls try to disrupt, destroy, or change discussion groups to fit their own agendas. . . .Trolls are pinheads.
These trolls like to visit and try to disrupt our happy forum. Their lowly reason for existence is to post provocative, hostile or annoying messages. They claim they are here to discuss, but in fact are just here to cause trouble. Trolls have an exaggerated sense of their own importance. Trolls will frequently use a persecution defence when they are asked to cease their anti-social behaviour. When someone asks them nicely to stop posting their negative comments, they claim innocent intent and will scream censorship. They will claim they are being singled out because of their unpopular viewpoints.

Trolls will only stay when they are fed or given attention. So please do not pet, respond to, or feed trolls. Doing so only results in their prolonged stay.
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Christianity EtcRe: Countdown To The Rapture? by Enigma(m): 8:06pm On Oct 16, 2011
Christianity EtcRe: Countdown To The Rapture? by Enigma(m): 7:19pm On Oct 16, 2011
^^^ My friend the mumu aka Mr Dunce! grin

Are you that daft or is it your dishonesty that makes you fail to see that you are the Chief Troll on this thread.

Anyway, you have long shown yourself to be a very limited person; limited to this kind of juvenile nonsense!

Hypocritical trolling mumu! smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Countdown To The Rapture? by Enigma(m): 6:26pm On Oct 16, 2011
thehomer:
Five days to the rapture. Are you ready?
Hypocritical troll! wink

Only good for this kind of juvenile nonsense. grin

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Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 4:54pm On Oct 16, 2011
grin Mumu evangelical atheists trolling Christian discussions all over the place and all over the forum ----- and now complaining about "trolling"!

Duplicitous whiny sissies!  smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 1:18pm On Oct 16, 2011
Now this is laughable!  smiley

Martian:
Why do you keep parroting the same terms over and over again. All you ever do is write evangelical atheist, dunning kruger effect,mumus, sussicorn bla bla bla.
We point out that the evangelical atheists are always parroting certain mantras, being old and even outdated arguments of the champions of the evangelical atheists. One of their local champions here, my friend Mr Dunce aka thehomer, justifies it by saying "it works".

Here we find one of them whining that we pre-empt their arguments. Of course as I said before, the evangelical atheists here become as clueless as fish out of water once you take them out of the comfort zone of repeating their mantras e.g. by preempting it. For example, my friend here had to resort to using "invisible body-guard" since we were already waiting for invisible pink unicorn and go on and on again about "burden of proof" to justify the daft false argument. wink

So yes, whether it is the unicorn, flying elves, Russell's teapot, Dunning-Kruger, flying spaghetti monster, burden of proof, no true scotsman fallacy (please remind me again of one or two others) ------ they all now simply induce one big fat yawnnnnnnn!  smiley



Martian:
Here, I'll give you two new terms to add to your vocabulary and repost a thousand times.

Enigma is a christian fundamentalist sanctimonious douche bag who suffers from True Believer syndrome and has frequent episodes of apophenia.
Small beer, I've been called much worse. But here is a thing:

Anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see a fool and you see the worst case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Only a fool can say that there is no God.  smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje & Co Lets Discuss The Origin Of Man by Enigma(m): 12:41pm On Oct 16, 2011
i really like the quote below so much because of the way it so accurately describes the approach of the evangelical atheists and their Sunday School level "theology" or understanding of the Bible.

Worth repeating. smiley

From http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible-pink-unicorns-et-al-part-1-4


Many atheists exhibit a lack of knowledge of the very theism against which they most often, if not exclusively, argue - the Bible's Judeo-Christianity. Worse yet, they think that they are well versed by claiming that they were "raised Christian" (whatever that means), "went to Sunday School," "was an altar boy," "saw the movie (hyperbole intended)," etc.

I am not one to claim that you must be a theologian to speak on, or against, Christianity nor a scholar to speak on, or against, the Bible. That is to be reserved for scholarly settings. Yet, one ought to be at least somewhat versed on the subject that one seeks to critique and be skeptical enough to double check both what one is being told as well as one's own positions.

I find that many atheists not only lack knowledge of Christian theology and the contents and contexts of the Bible but lack a basic understanding of natural theology / general revelation, which seeks to infer the cause of the universe from nature (nature not meaning biosphere alone but the universe as a whole).

Take a lack of knowledge of natural theology / general revelation - add to it a lack {of} knowledge of Christian theology and the contents of the Bible - mix that with a typically early age rejection of Christianity - blend it with the early, Sunday School, age understanding of theology - and finally bake it in the presuppositional oven of self-professed erudition and what do we end up with? . . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 12:35pm On Oct 16, 2011
Worth repeating again, considering that our evangelical atheist friends seem to be affected by its truthfulness --- maybe it'll make some of them rethink. (Weeeell loooong hope, I know smiley

From http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible-pink-unicorns-et-al-part-1-4


Many atheists exhibit a lack of knowledge of the very theism against which they most often, if not exclusively, argue - the Bible's Judeo-Christianity. Worse yet, they think that they are well versed by claiming that they were "raised Christian" (whatever that means), "went to Sunday School," "was an altar boy," "saw the movie (hyperbole intended)," etc.

I am not one to claim that you must be a theologian to speak on, or against, Christianity nor a scholar to speak on, or against, the Bible. That is to be reserved for scholarly settings. Yet, one ought to be at least somewhat versed on the subject that one seeks to critique and be skeptical enough to double check both what one is being told as well as one's own positions.

I find that many atheists not only lack knowledge of Christian theology and the contents and contexts of the Bible but lack a basic understanding of natural theology / general revelation, which seeks to infer the cause of the universe from nature (nature not meaning biosphere alone but the universe as a whole).

Take a lack of knowledge of natural theology / general revelation - add to it a lack {of} knowledge of Christian theology and the contents of the Bible - mix that with a typically early age rejection of Christianity - blend it with the early, Sunday School, age understanding of theology - and finally bake it in the presuppositional oven of self-professed erudition and what do we end up with? . . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 12:32pm On Oct 16, 2011
harakiri:
Er, really? And how do you know this? Because everyone ignored you? Can you bring up anything to prove that? You keep using the word "upstart" like it's going out of fashion. You know, there are some people you can use these cheap feeble outdated manipulative and cunning tactics on and get away with it. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM! Get it? You are way too dumb and daft to play with my intelligence and i mean that.

Now, get lost!
OK my upstart friend. After all the insults that you throw around all over the place you are complaining about "upstart"! Anyway, as I have observed before, the evangelical atheists are thin skinned and soon start whining like sissies and pansies after even only a small dose of their own medicine.

If you want to redeem yourself on the Leopold letter meet on the relevant thread; enough derailment of this one.

And as you evangelical atheists seem to be bothered by that quote because it is obviously true, I'll post again it next, to refocus this thread.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 9:26am On Oct 16, 2011
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Let me leave you with this:

As of today, the only person I know of in the WHOLE WORLD who thinks the Leopold letter is genuine is you, my upstart friend, harakiri.


That says a lot, aburo; says a lot!

I've got to dash now; maybe someone would have (privately/quietly) talked sense into you about the Leopold letter before I get back.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 9:15am On Oct 16, 2011
Look, let me help your daftness a little bit: do you see a single one of ALL the other posters who originally supported the Leopold letter now still maintaining that it is genuine?


Except you alone!!!!!

And that does not tell you something about yourself?

Pitiful!

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 9:13am On Oct 16, 2011
^^^ Waste of time.

You are still too daft to realise that the more you insist on the genuineness of the Leopold letter the more and the more and the more you declare yourself to be a fool! It would have been surprising except I now realise you are that daft.

Your task remains: produce the Leopold letter from the BBC website or from the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:46am On Oct 16, 2011
harakiri:
. . . The Leopold letter can be found in several online sources including the BBC website and the online catholic encyclopedia. . . .
Meanwhile see what I mean by about dishonesty? Here you are again lying blatantly!

Why not then produce the Leopold letter from the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia or the BBC website.

Just two links will settle it.  smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:41am On Oct 16, 2011
harakiri:
My friend, SHUT UP! ! !

You came to that thread boasting that you had "facts" and "logical analysis" that could debunk the Leopold letter to the Congolese as being fake. Till now, all you have done is show the dishonesty in Christians by beating about the bush, derailing topics and till date, you haven't brought forward this "evidence" you touted all over the place. The Leopold letter can be found in several online sources including the BBC website and the online catholic encyclopedia. The BBC website (and other websites) describes the horrors committed on the Congolese with pictures. The catholic encyclopedia mentions these horrors as well. Now, even a daft like you should know that if such a letter was fake, the Belgians would NEVER take such a smear campaign on their history lightly. There would be public outcry and a lot of fighting,court cases and libel charges. You even went as far as comparing such a historical letter to the 419 fraudulent scam letters (typical Christian cunning and dishonesty in action). I then told you to go to Google and type either "Fake King Leopold letter" or "King Leopold's letter to Congo is a forgery" and see if you get even ONE hit. Merely typing the words "fraud letter" on Google will bring out all those 419 letters. How on earth can you compare these two? Only a reetard is capable of such odd judgement.

What an ediot! If you think you can derail this thread with such a petty attempt, you'd better try harder next time.

Buffoon! ! !
^^ My dear upstart friend, have you been to the thread lately? I  know you ran away after your idiocy became evident to the world but I'm sure you would have peeped in; I could bump it up to remind you. And so far I have only posted quite limited material but enough to alert intelligent and honest people about the provenance of the letter.

One day, you'll grow up and perhaps learn how to think; maybe also one day you'll learn honesty ---- although I realise that is always something too much to ask of evangelical atheists. They simply don't do honesty!

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Christianity EtcRe: Religion Section Funny And/Or Memorable Quotes! by Enigma(op): 8:34am On Oct 16, 2011
Crude (deliberately so, evidently) but still chuckle-inducing. smiley

Gray Beard:
. . .

FOOOOOLISHNESS on the streets of ashkelon! How on earth does the something and nothing argument lead to a conclusion that the universe never existedhuhhuh? It only leads to a conclusion that sometyhing must have preceded it, where ya brain deyhuh?? Inside ya yanshhuhhuh

The second concusion you have up there is c.rap, because what we know about the big b.ang rebutts that s.hit.

Bros, i norr get ya time.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:12am On Oct 16, 2011
^^^ You know I warned you on the Leopold letter thread that I cannot now take anything you say seriously.

In fact, you have demonstrated your grave limitations at least twice --- one being when you could not understand my post about the limited intellectual options open to an evangelical atheist.

Anyway, when you can find the Leopold letter in your Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia  wink come and talk to me.  smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: ..... by Enigma(m): 7:53am On Oct 16, 2011
On the one hand, I imagine that the Jehovah Witnesses would be wary of being described as "freethinkers" in the same sense as the evangelical atheists like to deceive themselves.

On the other hand as pointed out recently:

frosbel:
^

Atheism is a religion. The way some of you {i.e. the evangelical atheists} go on about it here, even the Jehova Witensses will be green with envy !
. . . .
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 6:12am On Oct 16, 2011
Worth repeating.  smiley

From http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible-pink-unicorns-et-al-part-1-4


Many atheists exhibit a lack of knowledge of the very theism against which they most often, if not exclusively, argue - the Bible's Judeo-Christianity. Worse yet, they think that they are well versed by claiming that they were "raised Christian" (whatever that means), "went to Sunday School," "was an altar boy," "saw the movie (hyperbole intended)," etc.

I am not one to claim that you must be a theologian to speak on, or against, Christianity nor a scholar to speak on, or against, the Bible. That is to be reserved for scholarly settings. Yet, one ought to be at least somewhat versed on the subject that one seeks to critique and be skeptical enough to double check both what one is being told as well as one's own positions.

I find that many atheists not only lack knowledge of Christian theology and the contents and contexts of the Bible but lack a basic understanding of natural theology / general revelation, which seeks to infer the cause of the universe from nature (nature not meaning biosphere alone but the universe as a whole).

Take a lack of knowledge of natural theology / general revelation - add to it a lack {of} knowledge of Christian theology and the contents of the Bible - mix that with a typically early age rejection of Christianity - blend it with the early, Sunday School, age understanding of theology - and finally bake it in the presuppositional oven of self-professed erudition and what do we end up with? . . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 9:07pm On Oct 15, 2011
Ogaga's plagiarised quote below:

For nearly two thousand years Biblicists have been lecturing people on the importance of adhering to the Bible’s teachings on ethics, manners, and morality.  They quote Jesus and Paul profusely, with a liberal sprinkling of Old Testament moralism.  The problem with their approach lies not only in an oft- noted failure to practice what they preach, but an equally pronounced tendency to ignore what the Bible itself, preaches.  Christians practice what can only be described as “selective morality”.  What they like, they cling to and shove down other’s throats; what they don’t like, they ignore vehemently  Cheesy .  That which is palatable and acceptable is supposedly applicable to all; while that which is obnoxious, inconvenient, or self-denying is only applicable to those addressed 2,000 years ago.  Their hypocrisy is so rampant that even the validity of calling oneself “Christian” is in question. I see so many people enjoy quoting the Ten Commandments, the Sermon on the Mount, and some of Paul’s sermons, but don’t even PRETEND to heed other, equally valid, maxims.  I’ve mentioned pro-life and conservatism in other sermons. This one is going to sum up the rest of my beefs
Plagiarised from any of the following among many others:

http://www.evilbible.com/christians_are_hypocrites.htm

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pineville-wv/TN36SK52BI8QKD78D

http://www.sciforums.com/chistians-are-hypocrites-t-42174.html

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:46pm On Oct 15, 2011
[quote author=m-ployer link=topic=781971.msg9346882#msg9346882 date=1318707372]
just to mention a few,but if you ask me,the whole idea was to put some of you in check and under control.To think in the box and not out of it cos doing so would be a SIN.
You think I practice Christianity just to remain under control? grin[/quote]^^^ One interesting thing is that the evangelical atheists here cannot even think for themselves let alone think outside the box! Take them out of their comfort zone of parroting the arguments of their champion "thinkers" (e.g. define god, sussicorn, flying spaghetti monster, Dunning-Kruger effect, burden of proof, russell' s teapot etc and Sunday School level of Bible criticisms) the gormless fellows become as clueless as fish out of water.

Truth is that the indoctrination and brain-washing of the evangelical atheists is even worse than the case with the people they like to insult with wanton abandon.

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Christianity EtcRe: Question For Xtians by Enigma(m): 8:33pm On Oct 15, 2011
From http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible-pink-unicorns-et-al-part-1-4


Many atheists exhibit a lack of knowledge of the very theism against which they most often, if not exclusively, argue - the Bible's Judeo-Christianity. Worse yet, they think that they are well versed by claiming that they were "raised Christian" (whatever that means), "went to Sunday School," "was an altar boy," "saw the movie (hyperbole intended)," etc.

I am not one to claim that you must be a theologian to speak on, or against, Christianity nor a scholar to speak on, or against, the Bible. That is to be reserved for scholarly settings. Yet, one ought to be at least somewhat versed on the subject that one seeks to critique and be skeptical enough to double check both what one is being told as well as one's own positions.

I find that many atheists not only lack knowledge of Christian theology and the contents and contexts of the Bible but lack a basic understanding of natural theology / general revelation, which seeks to infer the cause of the universe from nature (nature not meaning biosphere alone but the universe as a whole).

Take a lack of knowledge of natural theology / general revelation - add to it a lack {of} knowledge of Christian theology and the contents of the Bible - mix that with a typically early age rejection of Christianity - blend it with the early, Sunday School, age understanding of theology - and finally bake it in the presuppositional oven of self-professed erudition and what do we end up with? . . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:30pm On Oct 15, 2011
Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]If u read my name clearly You'll notice i am from the southern part of Nigeria and our people are Christians mostly~ I mean , my name would have tell u i was a Christian and even then i wasn't an empty Christians just like u or some others who didn't care to search the Bible very well . I read the bible carefully with my brain understanding the whole Contradictions and deep secrets i realize '' Christianity ''- is just one confused and twisted side entirely . I have to quit very fast before it ruins my whole life-- indeed ,Christians are hypocrites for  obeying ignorance all these many years .

For nearly two thousand years Biblicists have been lecturing people on the importance of adhering to the Bible’s teachings on ethics, manners, and morality.  They quote Jesus and Paul profusely, with a liberal sprinkling of Old Testament moralism.  The problem with their approach lies not only in an oft- noted failure to practice what they preach, but an equally pronounced tendency to ignore what the Bible itself, preaches.  Christians practice what can only be described as “selective morality”.  What they like, they cling to and shove down other’s throats; what they don’t like, they ignore vehemently  cheesy .  That which is palatable and acceptable is supposedly applicable to all; while that which is obnoxious, inconvenient, or self-denying is only applicable to those addressed 2,000 years ago.  Their hypocrisy is so rampant that even the validity of calling oneself “Christian” is in question. I see so many people enjoy quoting the Ten Commandments, the Sermon on the Mount, and some of Paul’s sermons, but don’t even PRETEND to heed other, equally valid, maxims.  I’ve mentioned pro-life and conservatism in other sermons. This one is going to sum up the rest of my beefs.  grin
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@Ogaga4luv

Na plagiarism wey e now remain for you ---- or you think we can't detect that much of this your last post was copied from various websites?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 8:18pm On Oct 15, 2011
^^ And which other religion does the evangelical atheism religion respect?
Christianity EtcRe: Uk Atheists Push To Censor Academic Freedom by Enigma(m): 7:55pm On Oct 15, 2011
^^^ And that is in part what makes them religionists too, what makes them evangelical atheists. smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Enigma(m): 7:39pm On Oct 15, 2011
From http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/flying-spaghetti-monster-invisible-pink-unicorns-et-al-part-1-4


Many atheists exhibit a lack of knowledge of the very theism against which they most often, if not exclusively, argue - the Bible's Judeo-Christianity. Worse yet, they think that they are well versed by claiming that they were "raised Christian" (whatever that means), "went to Sunday School," "was an altar boy," "saw the movie (hyperbole intended)," etc.

I am not one to claim that you must be a theologian to speak on, or against, Christianity nor a scholar to speak on, or against, the Bible. That is to be reserved for scholarly settings. Yet, one ought to be at least somewhat versed on the subject that one seeks to critique and be skeptical enough to double check both what one is being told as well as one's own positions.

I find that many atheists not only lack knowledge of Christian theology and the contents and contexts of the Bible but lack a basic understanding of natural theology / general revelation, which seeks to infer the cause of the universe from nature (nature not meaning biosphere alone but the universe as a whole).

Take a lack of knowledge of natural theology / general revelation - add to it a lack {of} knowledge of Christian theology and the contents of the Bible - mix that with a typically early age rejection of Christianity - blend it with the early, Sunday School, age understanding of theology - and finally bake it in the presuppositional oven of self-professed erudition and what do we end up with? . . . .
Christianity EtcRe: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 9:22am On Oct 15, 2011
By the way, any person of intelligence and honesty (we can therefore immediately exclude the evangelical atheists of course) who reads the Wikipedia entry in the following link with proper comprehension would see why there are reasons to doubt that this purported Leopold letter is genuine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State_Propaganda_War

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Christianity EtcRe: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 8:54am On Oct 15, 2011
“The above speech which shows the real intention of the Christian missionary journey in Africa was exposed to the world by Mr. Moukouani Muikwani Bukoko, born in the Congo in 1915, and who in 1935 while working in the Congo, bought a second hand Bible from a Belgian priest who forgot the speech in the Bible. — Dr. Chiedozie Okoro
The Dr. Chiedozie Okoro mentioned seems to be (or to have been at some point) an academic in the Philosophy Department in UNILAG; could anybody with easy access to UNILAG please try and arrange a meeting/conversation with Dr. Okoro about this Leopold letter?

Also @ Dr Okoro (just in case you are a Nairalander or ever read here), your assistance in enlightening us will be much appreciated, thanks. smiley

As it happens, it appears that the proliferation of the letter on the Internet started following a column by Chinweizu in our own very Vanguard Newspaper (of 6th October 2005); Chinweizu in turn relied on the above Dr Okoro (with a Dr Vera Nobles) for supplying (info about) the letter.

See e.g. http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H-Africa&month=0510&week=b&msg=LcPDBrCP4UiAmglO2fWsCQ&user=&pw=

If there is anyone who is able to contact the columnist Chinweizu, it will be appreciated and any enlightenment that Chinweizu can provide would be most welcome as well. smiley

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Christianity EtcRe: Hurray! Evolutionists Have Their "missing Link" At Last! by Enigma(m): 7:27pm On Oct 14, 2011
Interesting read actually; thanks to David for pointing to it. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Uk Atheists Push To Censor Academic Freedom by Enigma(m): 1:29pm On Oct 14, 2011
Irrespective of the debate on evolution vs creation . . .

This kind of thing is partly why the duplicitous evangelical atheist mumus strenuously want to deny that atheism is a religion. If atheism is not regarded as a religion ---- then it can be taught where Christianity and other religions are prohibited.

The lying, dishonest, fraudulent mumus would on the one hand use the law to argue that atheism is a religion --- so as to secure some legal benefits; and on the other hand they would argue that it is not a religion so that they can push their idiotic agenda where other religions are prohibited.

Stooopid cheats!

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Christianity EtcRe: Post books That Will Boost our Spiritual Life here by Enigma(m): 12:03pm On Oct 14, 2011
muyoto:
Benny Hinn, Hagin, Kenyon, etc hereticshuh?

@frosbel, just wondering, exactly what [/i]church do you attend?
I'm afraid they [i]are heretics and false teachers who have misled a lot of people due to their greed and love of money and other material things.

Very sad. sad

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