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^^^ That evangelical atheists are also religionists and should stop being hypocritical!

agog:
@op,
If Antony Flew who was a strong advocate of atheism, who had argued that one should presuppose atheism until empirical evidence of a God surfaces and who also criticised the idea of life after death, the free will defence to the problem of evil, and the meaningfulness of the concept of God could change his mind in 2004 that there is God, then you are doomed to still hold on to Atheism. Flew, stating that in keeping his lifelong commitment to go where the evidence leads, he now believes in God and later wrote the book There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind, with contributions from Roy Abraham Varghese.
OP, sure there is GOD.

Thank you! And remember that many of these our neophyte/sciolist evangelical atheists are still repeatedly parroting arguments used by Antony Flew ---- some of which Flew himself later described as obsolete.

Talke another one of their stock arguments: "only the theist has a burden of proof regarding the existence of God."

Well, it was Flew's argument and, guess what? Flew later rejected the same very argument and said that the evangelical atheists similarly have a burden of proof regarding their own insistence that there is no God!

Ah, toba don't get caught like this oh; always remember to at least include the link. But I do not really think you were trying to plagiarise.

They are both religions; not only that, they are now both evangelising religions.

Furthermore, while it may be true that some Christians do suffer from the Dunning-Kruger Effect, it is irrefutable that every single evangelical atheist suffers from the Dunning-Kruger Effect. 

@ Jimmy Boy

Kindly take part in the two polls below: please explain your reasons for your choices, thanks.


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=744234.0;viewResults

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Bump (considering the ongoing) "tithes" thread.

I'd be particularly interested to see people who believe that "tithes must be paid into church" give their reasons for that belief.

Please remember no winner and no loser and even if you don't want to give an explanation, still vote nevertheless,

Bump (considering the ongoing) "tithes" thread. 

I'd be particularly interested to see people who believe that "tithes must be paid into church" give their reasons for that belief.

Please remember no winner and no loser and even if you don't want to give an explanation, still vote nevertheless,

@ stagger

Please take part in this poll: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-747403.0.html

Also, kindly eplain the reason for voting the way you do/did.

Thanks.

^^^ Thank you! Jesus told us how to give to HIM ---- "as long as you did it for the least of these (your brothers) you did it for Me"!

zataxs:
@Enigma calling people mumu, simple exposes your own immaturity. And shows how fine living examples of Jesus result to insults when they are met with infallible logic. you simply do not have a anything to disprove what is being said. And you are suffering from a common problem Christians who consider themselves to be highly educated,  you turn to throw big names, left right and center without understanding them. You think that by mentioning certain complex ideologies it equates to understanding them.

I think nothing shows this problem better than this debate with Sam Harris and Deepak Chopra. I think one of the best debates of all times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8-Yxdphsg

Says the very MUMU who starts a thread "God Violated Mary Who Gave Birth To A Bastard son" 

Hypocritical MUMU!

Especially @ the posters saying "pay your tithes", "pay the tithes".

Please participate in the following two polls, thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=744234.0;viewResults

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-747403.0.html

While I will certainly continue to refuse to teach my mumu friend about Antony Flew's God, I'd like to leave a bonus on this thread --- of Antony Flew talking about Genesis 1. (As an incidental aside, my very same dishonest mumu friend actually posted on the very same thread, even on the very same page, in which I posted the video of Flew speaking about his god!)


EDIT the below was first posted here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-11284.672.html#msg8781133

The late Anthony Flew, one of the atheists' champions of all time who later renounced atheism, was asked:

HABERMAS: Then, would you comment on your “openness” to the notion of theistic revelation?

He replied:

FLEW: Yes. I am open to it, but not enthusiastic about potential revelation from God. On the positive side, for example, I am very much impressed with physicist Gerald Schroeder’s comments on Genesis 1. That this biblical account might be scientifically accurate raises the possibility that it is revelation.

Ah, my mumu friend pick race yet again ---- after being exposed once again for the juvenile operator that he is (just like "for first amendment purposes only"! 

^^^Stop spreading false doctrine! God does not ask anyone to pay "tithes"!

Study, study, study your Bible for goodness' sake!

^^^ Obviously all the intellectual excitement that followed Antony Flew's rejection of his former atheism religion passed you by or perhaps flew over your head. That is why you remain in the rut of your juvenile level "Antony Flew's God was not Jehovah" ---- that is apart from your intellectual dishonesty and fraud of course! 

Mumu, you forget that a person only had to read a newspaper at the time to know of Antony Flew's God! Even one of your fellow evangelical atheists did better in one of the other threads by quoting from the Independent Telegraph Newspaper --- but here you are operating at a juvenile level even lower than that. Anyway, I did advise you to ask him to be your teacher. You are just too dumb or too fraudulent to be my student. So, I continue to refuse to be your teacher. 

thehomer:
Aww still whining I see. Just type out the name of the God. Go watch the video you've hidden and type out the name of the God let's see if it is close to your Jehovah.

So Mr Dunce is even operating at the juvenile level of "Antony Flew's God was not Jehovah" and he comes here pretending as someone to be taken seriously?

One day you'll grow up Mr Dunce, or indeed Mr Fraud -- to use your shiny new moniker. 


You see, that poster really had your measure, you know!

Breeze5000:
. . . . A lot of them just make mouth and ask all those [size=14pt]kindergarten questions[/size] sometimes,  Like lil kids who ask! ask! and ask without pausing to think or imagine if what they are saying makes sense. [/b]Since they are the ones that says there is no God, the burden of proof lies with them and [b]I don't see them coming up with anything meaningful! . . . .

^^^^ Another mumu!

^^^ God does not even ask anyone for tithes!

@ Agbo2

Please try and answer the questions in the two poll threads below honestly and intelligently and you will know what is the right thing to do!  

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=744234.0;viewResults

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-747403.0.html

^^^ I am certainly not going to read that your penultimate post unless and until it is properly presented.

^^^ Look, when you learn how to post properly I will try and bother to read your post.

I'm not about to waste any time on that incoherent rubbish up there.

^^^ And since you are still a dunce (now a fraud as well!), I continue to refuse to be your teacher on that particular point --- just as I did on that original thread! 

^^^ You are a disgraceful liar! No shame!

Even when your lies clearly find you out, you still persist in making a fool of yourself.

From now on I place you in the category --- "to be pitied"!

Nevertheless, I have now officially added Mr Fraud to your other moniker of Mr Dunce.

Obviously, the question of what God he believed in was answerd when I posted a video of him explaining with his own mouth ----- though very deliberately in another thread.

So when did the issue of Jehovah or some bronze age god arise.

Pathetic liar!

Mr Dunce (soon to be renamed Mr fraud), below are the two things:

A. Your dishonest re-phrasing.

thehomer:
Awww dullard go through the thread and find out what I was asking for.
What is the name of this God? Is it Jehovah? How does this God support your bronze age beliefs?

B. Your old question (in various guises)

thehomer:
Which God did Anthony Flew believe in?

In a different form:

thehomer:
I wasn't aware that he believed in any particular God. Your post seemed to indicate otherwise. So which God was it? . . . .

And again:

thehomer:
Assume I'm ignorant, why don't you simply point out the God he believed in?

And you are not ashamed to say (or lie bold-faced) that you were not asking me about his "beliefs"?

thehomer:
. . . . Note that I never asked about his beliefs just about his God.

At what time did you ask whether it was Jehovah or some bronze age god?

You are a disgrace and a waste of time for being a liar in addition to being a dunce.

Poor comprehension Mumu --- just follow the link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Compare the question you kept asking like a robot on that thread with the dishonestly modified version of that question that you present on this thread.

Look at the post above yours as edited: read your first question (and compare to your blatant lying here); then follow the rest of that thread.

Jokes aside: you really are a disgrace for making any pretense to intellectualism being such a blatant liar!

Put it in your pipe ---- and smoke it!

Ah, Mr Dunce; na so you dey shamelessly intellectually dishonest. 

Anyway, the thread is there and I've even already linked to it above.



EDITED In fact here is the link to where your folly on that thread started: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-715030.32.html

Anywhere you see an evangelical atheist, even on his own, you see a fool and you also see the very worst case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Only an omniscient person or a fool can say there is no God.

You forget that I pointedly posted a video of Antony Flew speaking about his god with his own very mouth on another thread going on at the very same time of that debate! I just deliberately refused to be your teacher on that particular point, in that particular thread!

Here, remember the below --- it was after that post that you started using "whining"; obviously the post must have hit bullseye!

In that case enjoy it again!

From here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-715030.64.html#msg8812668

Oh, the evangelical atheists are still here whining!

OK, here again one more time:

Breeze5000:
. . . . A lot of them just make mouth and ask all those kindergarten questions sometimes, Like lil kids who ask! ask! and ask without pausing to think or imagine if what they are saying makes sense. [/b]Since they are the ones that says there is no God, the burden of proof lies with them and [b]I don't see them coming up with anything meaningful! . . . .