Polygamy isnt Gods Will! Society is against it, Morals against it. Its enough for a man to have a wife!!

Polygamy isnt Gods Will! Society is against it, Morals against it. Its enough for a man to have a wife!!

Its too late to quit! The Master's coming is near and His reward is with Him!!

Only one way to God. Jesus is The Way, Truth and Life! Seek Jesus while you may.

Tough times dont last, only tough people do!

petra1:


What more can I say . You've said it all.

There is a funny development . It's believed by many scholars that the antichrist will build the new temple in jesrusalem . I was shocked while making a search online to discover that Jewish religious leaders wrote to president Putin and president Donald trump to help them build a new temple . Whoever build that temple is the antichrist .


https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78372/bin-exclusive-sanhedrin-asks-putin-trump-build-third-temple-jerusalem/amp/

Hmmn but the anti christ will not be enthroned until:
1. The temple is rebuilt and jewish worship & rituals is restored
2. After the rapture
This would mean then who builds the temple isnt necessarily anti christ but may in essence be working for it.
As it is, the muslims have the use of the Jewish temple which the Jews must capture.

MZLady39:


Oh okay....
My brother....my brother....you want to open up my brain?
Our appearance should be modest. We aren't to duplicate the world. There should be a contrast.
For example, I gave up make-up years ago....(which bothered me at first but eventually I accepted) and began dressing more modestly. Because a woman may have "it", doesn't mean she should flaunt it.
The point is to radiate an inner beauty that surpasses the outer beauty.
The Holy Spirit has to arrest the heart though. And it's a daily process. The change starts inward and then moves outward.
Brother, that's all I'm gonna give you for now

Pls dont give more!
You just served me plates of my best delicacies!!
Permit me to enjoy it till....
You are blessed. I let you be!!

jiggaz:
In our bid to live a morally upright life after accepting Christ as our Saviour, many of us believers misunderstand God's grace and consequently Romans 6:1 - “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?” We read this and start preaching the Ten Commandments as a measure of righteousness. This is usually because we somehow think that "other believers" but "surely not us" will go berserk with sin we preach God's grace without adding the Ten Commandments to "put believers in check."
This thought has its root in the belief that God's work cannot succeed without our making it so by some forceful effort on our part, much like how "Uzzah put out his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it, for the oxen stumbled." in 2 Samuel 6:6. Uzzah must have had only good intentions but he still died from his action.
Like Uzzah, proponents of this mixture of Law and Grace try to "help God" to "steady His ark" by introducing law-keeping (attaining righteousness via human effort) to the New Covenant of God's grace; even when it is written that "The letter kills." God doesn't need anyone's help to steady His ark (that's us believers in Christ. His Spirit dwells in us.) Without Christ, we can do nothing.
Would you really give your own child a gift that has a slight chance of killing him? How much more our loving Saviour in whom "we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence," Ephesians 1:7-8 here tells us His grace is showered on us with wisdom and prudence, not just anyhow that we could misuse it.
Those who misunderstand and quote this verse to us “grace people” also seem to believe that all we want to do is sin when the exact opposite is the case (only by God's grace are we this way!) Like our heavenly Father, we “grace people” hate sin with a passion!
So why did Paul ask this question“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?” in Romans 6:1? Paul made some statements in the preceding chapter (Romans 5) which led to his asking this particular question. Before we address these, let’s bear the following verses in mind (Sorry, this could be a little long)
Romans 3:20 says “For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are.” Law-keeping can never make one right with God or earn them a commendation. Rather, it will bring condemnation, the curse and judgment.
Galatians 3:10 says “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” Those who are trying to keep the Ten Commandments in order to get right with God are under the curse!
Galatians 5:4 says “For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.” This means that if you believe that it is your law-keeping/what you do or don’t do that makes you right with God, you can call on the name of Jesus all you want but it will be an effort in futility. You can’t mix law and grace; the Law did not come through Jesus Christ. Grace and Truth did. And this Truth is not the Ten Commandments. Christ Himself is the Truth.
Back to Romans 6:1 - “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?” The “What shall we say then?” tells us that Paul was questioning something he said in the preceding chapter (Romans 5) and he said a lot of our salvation in Christ in Romans 5!
In Romans 5:19, Paul says: “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.”
Here, Paul tells us that Adam’s disobedience is what made everybody sinners. Our sins do not make us sinners. We sin because we are sinners through Adam’s disobedience, not the other way round. Whether you do good or do bad, without Christ, as long as you are Adam’s seed, you are a sinner. In this state, even if you spend your entire life in a bubble doing “righteous things,” and not thinking a single, slightly mean thought, which no one can, in God’s eyes, you would still be a sinner and in the same boat of unrighteousness as paedophiles and murderers. The good things we do here can never make us righteous in God’s eyes.
By the same token, Christ’s obedience makes everyone who believes and receives His gift of righteousness 100% righteous in the sight of God. This blood-bought righteousness is the only one that “cuts it’ with our heavenly Father. The bad things we do cannot make us lose this righteousness, just as the good things we did before we became born-again could not change our sinner status. In Christ, we are 100% righteous because God put our sins on Jesus so that we can be righteous in Him according to Paul in 2 Corinthians 5:21-
“For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
Verse 19 in NLT version says “And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.”
How is it that we do not question the result of one man's disobedience (eternal condemnation) yet question that of one Man’s obedience (eternal Righteousness?)
Verse 20-21, the last verses before Paul’s question “What then shall we say?” go on to say:
“Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, 21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
In essence, Paul tells us in verse 20 that the law was given so that people could see how sinful they were (“that the offense might abound.” ) But as the people sinned more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant (“But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more.”) Verse 21 tells us that just as sin ruled over the people and brought them to death
(“so that as sin reigned in death,”) now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (“even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”)
Believers, this is the crux of the gospel that Paul preached, THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Paul preached that Christ’s obedience is what makes us righteous in the eyes of our heavenly Father, and not our law-keeping/what we do or do not do. Paul preached righteousness by faith, not by works or keeping the law in order to be made right with God.
Paul preached that Sarah (Grace) does not need Hagar (the Law) to raise Isaac (the church.) Grace is more than enough!
And the religious leaders of his day were enraged!
They wanted their Law that they could not even live by because it made them look better than the tax collectors and sinners! They persecuted Paul, just as today, preachers of God's undeserved, unmerited favour, the same gospel that Paul preached, are falsely accused of preaching that it is okay to sin because "we have grace!"
For this grace gospel that he preached, Paul was imprisoned, scourged, stoned and left for dead and murdered on the orders of the religious leaders of his day who were dogged about keeping the Law that Christ has delivered us from, just like their counterparts today who preach that our law-keeping and self-righteousness is what makes us right with God, even though Christ has fulfilled all of the Law's righteous demands for us! Even though trying to be justified by the law is the way to get cut off from Christ!
For this gospel of the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ that Paul preached (justification by faith and not by law-keeping,) He was falsely accused by the religious leaders of his day of preaching that it is okay to sin because of grace.
THIS IS WHY PAUL ASKED THE QUESTION IN ROMANS 6:1
“WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN? SHALL WE CONTINUE IN SIN THAT GRACE MAY ABOUND?”
HE WAS ASKING THE QUESTION:
“Do all these things I have said, including the truth that God’s grace super-abounds when sins increase; that we are made righteous by “one Man’s obedience” and not our law-keeping; that we are made right with God because of His free gift even though we are guilty of many sins; do these things that I said mean that believers can just go and be sinning anyhow?”
Believers, this is why Paul asked this question. He didn’t ask it in the context in which many people bandy the verse about today – usually as a reason to go back under the law that Christ has already fulfilled for us with his death! He asked because he wanted to clarify that the gospel that he preached - righteousness by faith and not by law-keeping - is not a license to sin but the key to right living!
No wonder he said “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ…”

What he preached – justification by faith and not by works of the law or keeping the Ten Commandments - was considered shameful by the Pharisees and scribes who held on to laws that they could never keep for their own righteousness, the same laws (the Ten Commandments) that those who misunderstand Romans 6:1 struggle and fail to keep even today, shunning the grace and gift of righteousness that God freely gives to us in Christ.

If you are a pastor and you have not been misunderstood and accused of preaching "easy grace" by anyone like Paul was, please ask God to show you the Truth. There is a double curse in Galatians 3 for anyone that preaches a different gospel than Paul did, specifically those who preach that believers still need to keep the Law in order to be right with God or do such and such before God will bless or help them. This is the Law and "we are not under Law but under Grace." This is the burden that Christ came to lift from our shoulders - the Law. Why do we try so hard to put the church under the spirit of bondage again to fear? Romans 8:15 says of those of us in Christ -

"For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading again to fear [of God’s judgment], but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons [the Spirit producing sonship] by which we [joyfully] cry, “Abba! Father!”"

Now to Paul’s response to his Romans 6:1 question “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
Romans 6:2 "Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”

Believers, Paul’s response here simply means that we have moved from the country of Sin to the country of Grace where we have God’s Righteousness as gift. Just as we could produce only sinful deeds before Christ delivered us from the consequences of Adam’s disobedience, as the righteousness of God in Christ, believing in His righteousness that we receive as a gift and not that which is from our law-keeping, we will produce righteousness.

Verses 15-17 say even more: 15 "Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! 16 Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. 17 Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. 18 Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living.”

A slave will do his master’s bidding. Slaves of God’s Righteousness (the gift, not of works) will live right. Slaves of sin will continue to sin.

But how is one a slave to sin? 1 Corinthians 15:56 says “…, and the power of sin is the law.” The Law gives sin its power over man. Anyone who is trying to keep the Law in order to get right with God is a slave to sin!
Also, notice that “choose to obey God" in v.16 is not obeying the Law but obeying Paul’s teaching: RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH AND NOT BY WORKS.
Those who struggle under the weight of laws that they cannot keep reap a harvest of sinful deeds as it is written in Romans 7:5-

5 “When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death."

What law-keeping does is arouse evil desires that produce a harvest of sinful deeds. " Old nature" here refers to the sin nature that all acquired as a result of Adam's disobedience.
Verse 6 tells of the experience of us who are the righteousness of God in Christ: "But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit.”

The difference between us "grace people" and believers who still fight to keep the Law in order to get right with God or receive from Him is that by His grace, we know we are already 100% right with Him because of what Christ did for us and that He gives us all things freely with Christ according to Romans 8:32, and not because we fasted or went to some mountain to neglect our bodies. We do not have to struggle to live right by our own effort. The Holy Spirit transforms us to the image of our Lord’s glory (2 Corinthians 3:18,) ridding us of the desire to sin and causing us to do God's will. We also are not cut off from Christ as those who try to get right with God by keeping the law are, according to Galatians 5:4 -

"For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace."

Pastors and leaders, stop worrying about what other people will "use God's grace to do" and preach it. Don't try to steady the ark of God like Uzzah did. Don't add the Ten Commandments to righteousness by faith. The law is not of faith. Titus 2 tells us that Grace is our Teacher, not you or I. Tell people about God's grace and let Grace, in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, do the rest!

Believers, ask our Lord God to lead you on the path of righteousness. The Holy Spirit will teach you all things!

Believe Right and you will Live Right." ad

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God Forbid...How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein!

MZLady39:


Brother,
I'm humbled...by your words...and guess what?
I'm stillI getting humbled daily. I'm finally "getting it". Of course you know I'm quite vocal here...but I respect a man's role...which of course he shouldn't abuse.
Well..I'll have to pray about how to express this...but it will happen.
Tell me please what you mean by "treat" the topic on NL?

I meant you create a thread to disect that issue.
Whats your take on a womans appearance?

MZLady39:


Lol...brother. I see you are using my words.
Well...a jezebel spirit entails lots of things.
But I'm mainly speaking about most women's innate desire to exercise "control". The tendency to usurp the man's role..(family, church, career etc). "Control" is the essence of the Jezebel spirit.
Her tone and persona are harsh many times. I'm trying to move away from that. That's what I get from her lots of times.
Believe it or not, but I love the roles that men & women have...separate but equal...and which should complement each other

I wont say all there is my heart.
God that has kept you till now will keep you to the end! Amen!!
Its easy to see in you a woman ready for God's use, you have the word & meekness...Many of our women have lost it! I just hope some of them are really in Christ as they profess.
Please you need to treat this topic on nairaland...Its good if it comes from a woman.
**xtianwoman needs to see this!**

MZLady39:


Wasn't trying to be rude..but contrary to what's been said about me, I do take into account areas where I need growth...hence the reason I asked.
Pertaining to Juanita Bynum, my measuring stick is Jesus. I'm not interested in speaking or being like her, with all due respect...although some things she says are true.
Not to condemn her (cause I don't know her heart), but I'm not into the "title" thing. I don't think I have the gift of a prophetess...God will reveal to me the exact gift (s).
Just to be fair, I did go & listen to 2 brief messages to see if they were like the past and ummmm....
Well..ummm... I don't want a "Jezebel" spirit which is easy to possess as women.

How do you mean when you say Jezebel spirit?
Pls be blunt and very honest

GodsMopol:
guide your heart with all diligence, for out if it, flows all the issues of life, prov4:23. we ought to know that our heart is more like the power house as a Christian, its been long I posted on this platform, apologies, my browsers giving me headache.

how are you doing, am good, where are you chatting from and bla bla bla, sorry, I don't know why I did that, just playing jare. yea, I see too many serious Christians now aday, you are too spiritual, you don't interact, you don't watch football, you don't even smile, all you gat in your mind and that small heart of yours is rapture, as though the world should come to an end and you should escape quickly. what's it with you, lemme say this, I know the thought I have, said the Lord, Thoughts of good and not of evil, you want the world to come to an end and you never thought of doing or getting some people to heaven with you, you should go to hell if I were God, many are dying day in, day out, so many are struggling with sin and you could be of help somehow, why not become an evangelist on Facebook or social media, where you would teach people things that pertain to the kingdom, and you never can tell how many lives you could be saving or assisting in one sphere or the other. pls repent, I'm not saying your heart shouldn't be on heavenly things, but don't be too boring, Paul said

Colossians 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

did you see that, Paul rejoiced in all his sufferings, go and play tennis, be fun again, probably through that, you would bring more people to the kingdom, because your boring life is not bringing people to Christ

Hmmn very good post.
Unique but rich in content!
I must say its dicey, easy to be misunderstood!
Fun is good if it would have limits.

LiberaDeus:


you can go to hell with your stupid imaginary punishment and blessing.

Slowpoke quoting the bible for me. The Quran also states that the infidels and the rejecters of Allah will burn in hell forever.

I will school you in the origin of your petty holy babble.

I have one question for you christard,
Who wrote the bible? I hope it makes you think

All I see is emotions!
I cant answer cos your question is to Christards....Let Christards answer.
If you address me properly, then we start from there.

LiberaDeus:
I want to comment on this thread for the purpose of educating christards like Analice and Junia who think a born again cant become a freethinker.

I know you christards think the freethinkers here were never really christians. Let me tell you categorically what i was before i saw the real light of reason and truth;

1. I was lost( or so i thought). I didnt have christ, i didnt have hope of salvation even though i was a cultural christian.
2. I had a true conviction where i felt unworthy, sinful and asked Christ to come and wash me away from my sins. I accepted christ that day and felt saved, clean, cleared and good.
3. I got involved in the church more often, i read and studied the bible.
4. I prayed in tongues
5. I received rhemas ( or so i thought)
6. I heard a still small voice
7. I received prophecies
8. I had the hope of heaven and glory.
9. I adored reasonable men of God

Believe you me there is nothing you are doing now that i didnt do in my born again days.
In all these experiences, what seperates me from you is something special? a thirst for knowledge

You christards are not intellectually curious or thirsty thats why you will be stuck in religion for ever. By the time i thought i was growing spiritually, i was doing something that you guys never do which is; reading on a wide variety of subjects just based on curiosity.

Based on the way you guys talk, none of you can stand me in knowledge of science, history, archaeology, politics etc. Your minds are stuck in a rot thats why religious dogma will reign supreme over you and i dont blame you at all.
But if you come here claiming enlightened liberated souls are nothing but lying, mischievious folks who were never christians then i must call you out. Please read about Dan Barker, Theresa Mcbain etc. There are uncountable freethinkers that were once just like you.

I know its hard for you to accept that after your step of faith that one can find another truth greater than yours. Your religion is nothing more than a mental cage so you can keep throwing your stupid " no true scotsman fallacy".

The Bible clearly states that 'a dog returns to its vomit and a washed pig returns to wallowing in the mire' - II Pet 2:22
But 'we are not of them that draw back to perdition but believe to the saving of the soul' - Heb 10:39
But 'without are dogs...' - Rev 22:15 Therefore, no backslider shall inherit the Kingdom of God! The punishment is much for such.
Any man who has gone back to sin, is called to repentance before judgment!

enshy:
Paul says 'I pray God that your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ' - I Thess 5:23
So we can affirm that every man has a composite nature.

You didnt see the quoted ba? You need Hebrews to understand that. Did you not see the use of the conjunction 'and'? In English, what does 'and' mean?
God created man in His image - Isnt this in Gen 1:27?
That God is Spirit - Isnt this in John 4:24?
Are inferences not made from scriptures?
Biko!

cc: PastorAIO

PastorAIO:


Let me clear the mud for you a bit. You came here saying that man is a composite of soul spirit and body, abi?



Man created in God's image does not mean man is composite of tripartite anything.
I put it to you that you are just making up your tripartite composite postulations.

All the questions I've asked you you've failed to answer them. Instead you respond with questions, though I'm generous enough to even answer your questions. Can you answer this question here:


At the moment, if you say 20 things only one of them can be found in the bible. The rest, 19, are from either your imagination or from some diabolical source.

You cant take the whole knowledge once, I take it gradually with you.
First In what image was man created? Dont run from the question..Is it clay as you stated?
I will walk you through the affirmation of Mans composite nature in scriptures!

PastorAIO:


Let me clear the mud for you a bit. You came here saying that man is a composite of soul spirit and body, abi?



Man created in God's image does not mean man is composite of tripartite anything.
I put it to you that you are just making up your tripartite composite postulations.

All the questions I've asked you you've failed to answer them. Instead you respond with questions, though I'm generous enough to even answer your questions. Can you answer this question here:


At the moment, if you say 20 things only one of them can be found in the bible. The rest, 19, are from either your imagination or from some diabolical source.

Pls dont add lies to support your claims...That I detest, I run from lies to support claims.
All Ive said is anchored on the passages Ive quoted and the one you quoted from.
Tell me in what image did God create man? You dont know and you are not ready to know. I dont need Hebrews to understand Bible, I have the Holy Ghost.
To correct you: Nismat doesnt mean air pls google it.

PastorAIO:


Let me clear the mud for you a bit. You came here saying that man is a composite of soul spirit and body, abi?



Man created in God's image does not mean man is composite of tripartite anything.
I put it to you that you are just making up your tripartite composite postulations.

All the questions I've asked you you've failed to answer them. Instead you respond with questions, though I'm generous enough to even answer your questions. Can you answer this question here:


At the moment, if you say 20 things only one of them can be found in the bible. The rest, 19, are from either your imagination or from some diabolical source.

Answer mine and I answer yours!
Are those statements not from scriptures? If they are? In what image then did God create man?

akintom:
The Christians claim that Holy Spirit helps/empowers them to have self control, but a look at the logic below, the Holy Spirit turned out to be an irrelevant factor, as far as behavioural control mechanism is concerned.


If,

* Christian + self control = moral

* Non-Christian + self control = moral

But,

* Christian + self control + holy ghost = moral

* Christian - holy ghost + self control = moral

Hence,

* Holy ghost is irrelevant factor.

Fundamentally, the Holy Spirit doesnt usurp authority or possess to make you do things without your consciousness - thats the operation of a demon!
The Holy Spirit has the gentle nature of Christ, He instructs, teaches, guides, comforts, empowers, strengthens and leads!
All these He does through His Word, inner conscience, the still small voice, visions & revelations, messages of annointed men of God e.t.c.
A man who would be so influenced with the Holy Ghost is one who has so submitted the entirety of His Will to Him.
Self control is in the submission criterion of being influenced by the Holy Ghost...The Bible says 'walk in the spirit, you wont fulfill the lusts of the flesh'
Selfcontrol is a work of Grace started at salvation and at sanctification, the flesh is nailed! Amen!!
***Pls note Holy Ghost is not same as speaking in tongues***

GodsMopol:


you're always trying to force yourself into thinking you are an atheist, but I would telling you, stop fooling yourself, its not helping matters, Jesus has forgiven your sins, 2000 years ago, you are just merry-go-rounding without a station, like an astronaut without gravity, its fun to keep floating even when you know its taking you no where, obinaco, go to church, get on your knees, and pray

Bro, seems you know something about him.
May he find Grace and Mercy with God!

analice107:

Lol. You are the one probably on Weeds. Daniel, prophesied Kingdoms, kings, rulers, empires long before they existed, they all came to pass. He prophesied about Alexander the Great, long before he was born, it came to pass.

It prophesied that all these empires will break dividing into factions, it came to pass. It began with Alexander the Great after his death.

It prophesied about a world government that will comprise of strong and weak nations trying to work together, the United Nation is here.

You think you funny? Wait till you get resurrected.

Resurrected to stand before the Great White Throne Judgment.
He will be dumb before God...Words will fail him, he will be so humble begging for a second chance.
No 2nd chance, let all accept Jesus now for judgment is coming.

alBHAGDADI:
Pls, read the below

“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Daniel 11:31 NIV

He will be a Muslim leader who will appease the muslims to remove their mosque for the Jews to have their temple rebuilt. He can only convince the muslims if only they see him as their leader.

No sir.
The Jews will have had control over their Temple because they will be offering sacrifices at the time since there would be no more Grace, Prophets nor Prayers to be heard...Heaven is locked at the period.
The Anti Christ will then be able deceive the Jews with signs and lying wonders thinking he is sent from God until he reveals himself as Anti Christ.

PastorAIO:


None of these your questions are concerns of mine. If you have anything you want to say about Yahweh in the bible and the creation of Man as told in the bible then I insist that you back up what you are saying with passages from the bible. Otherwise you are just making things up.

From the op to now everything you've said has been pure confection from your imagination. Nothing to do with the bible or Hebrew thought on the matter.

So its no more in scriptures that 'God created man in His image'...The scripture doesnt tell you that 'God is Spirit'
Tell me you dont know where those are in scriptures and Ill help you.
Please if you dont know, say it dont confuse others with Hebrews.
Now to my question: If God put air into clay to make it living soul, is Gods image clay? what is the image He created?
Google nismat and ruach and see it means almost same thing...At times, its used interchageably.
Pls if you dont know, learn or be mute lest you confuse others!

akintom:
I am born again too. Since the day i gave my life to FSM, i have enjoyed peace like a river.

*no more imaginary enemies
*no more worries about Jewish Idol
*no more waste of resources at Temple of Jewish Idol

Come taste the FSM, and your life will not remain the same.

My Friend, I see you have taken so much interest in FSM now.
Is it logical?
Sincerely, you are one I wont forget!

analice107:

Yes indeed. You put it so simply for those who already understands, but for those who don't, it's still deep.

The Abomination that causes desolation is the Person of Anti Christ sitting in the Jewish Temple requiring every living soul to bow down and worship as God, This will formally bring to pass the wager satan made in Isa 14.

Before this time, the Jew's will believe this Antichrist guy for his charisma and ability to put up seemingly workable policies which for a time will favour them, they will work with him through out his first half reign.

There's a Mosque standing in the Temple site today, those who do not know may think Islam is powerful to have bulldozed it's way into the Holy City of God and desecrate it by building that Mosques there, but Prophet Daniel says, After Christ dies, the daily sacrifices will cease for a season, then commence again.

Well, we know from Scriptures that, the Jews will be made to reject Christ, so that the Gentile's dispensation can commence, but if the Jews rejects Christ as the ultimate sacrifice, wont they keep up with their daily animal sacrifices? definitely they will, hence, the destruction of the Temple, exile of the Jews, and the room for Gentles to Trample on the Holy city for a season bringing to fulfilment of Rev. 11:2.

We know that no Jew can offer any Sacrifice outside of the Temple, so the sacrifices ceased. When they were gathered back, according to the Prophesies, they longed to return to their daily sacrifices, but an Idol's Mosques is standing in the site, so they can't. they have been longing and planing to rebuilt, it will only be rebuilt when the time is right.

The Scriptures tells us to count from when the Jews will be gathered again back to their own land then we will have an idea or clues as to when the Rapture of the saints shall be.

Now, after Rapture, the Antichrist will show up mesmerizing people, bringing solutions to problems that has lasted for ages. The Jews especially, shall be favoured above all. The Muslims shall take their Mosque out of that place, because the Temple shall be rebuilt, daily sacrifice shall resume. In that Temple, the Antichrist shall enthrone himself, declaring himself God, bringing to pass Isa 14:12-14.

The Jews, will reject him and call him an impostor. This will be the abomination that causes desolation.

The desolation will be as a result of the persecution that the Jews will suffer in the hands of the Antichrist for rejecting to declare him God. This will bring Rev. 12 to Fulfillment.


It's all revolves around the Jews. Wonder why Islam is so fixated with the Jews and everything Jewish?

Satan hates the Jews because everything revolves around them.

He will pretend to like them by favouring them, Only with a motive of having them declare him as God, if this is done, then satan will feel fulfilled that God's people have unanimously declared him God before the world.


Although, many worship him but, he is not satisfied with secrete worship, he wants it done publicly and in Yahweh's Temple.

So, Yeah, a lot is ahead of those who will miss Rapture. There shall be no dull moment for the seven years that the Antichrist guy will be around.

So detailed my dear.
Thanks!
The conclusion, let everyone escape the tribulation to come!

obinna58:
sorry I'm not guilty of what u mentioned. If only I could see physical evidence about God But none I heard sule performed miracle yesterday in WDC

You want God to appear to you. He didnt appear to any of us! Blessed is He who hasnt seen yet believed! My rule: You are guilty as charged!!

PastorAIO:


It's not simple and straight anything. You are still just making up doctrines. Yahweh breathed Nismat into Clay and it became a living thing. There is no mention of Ruach in the passage. Can you support anything you've just said from a biblical passage?

and nismat is not 'my nismat'. I am not a hebrew, it is not my language and it is not a concept that I made up. I found it there when I was studying the bible. Please don't give me the ownership of something that I don't own, I cannot afford to offend the owner.

If God breathe into clay, where was the spirit? how did spirit come by?
God created man in His image, is this the clay? what is the image at creation?
My point is nismat isnt air save if your own nismat is air! Nismat is breathe not air!!
Nismat and Rauch are almost same yet distinct! They are complementary of the other!!

obinna58:


I was
At least I grew as a religionist to a certain level

I gave my life to Christ, later realize he z not worth it

Junia is so right.
You were born again with mouth and you just confirmed it.
See God is not worth it, He is not worth serving when you are unserious, a sinner, corrupt, pollute! Anyone that dies in that condition ends up like the unbeliever in Hell.
You realized well but acted in the negative. Your response is faulty..You should rather get serious by repenting and live a new life devoid of sin in total submission to His Will.
God help you...We will be praying for you!

PastorAIO:


It is quite unfortunate that instead of simply answering my questions to follow the point I'm trying to show you you respond with more questions that betray your lack of understanding. N E way I'll be generous and answer your questions.

No, the bible was not translated from French it was translated from Hebrew and often a lot gets lost in translation which is why I'm trying to help you by referring you to the original text.


It would help you greatly in understanding the scriptures if you made reference to the Hebrew bible. Luckily for you you don't have to go and learn Hebrew before you can study the original hebrew. We live in an information age and all this information is readily available for those that truly seek to be informed.


In answer to you question I'll do you as you do me, I'll respond with a question.
What do you think of this bible verse and it's relevance to what you are asking me?

24And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him. 26Then he said, “Let me go, for the day has broken.” But Jacob said, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.” 27And he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel,f for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel,g saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”

And this one:

And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the ... Genesis 3:8

What form was Yahweh in these passages, Physical or non physical?

Bro, your nismath gave rauch a living existence in body form!
Rauch is Spirit and its created.
Nismat is breathe, life, existence not just air!
Its not exacly same yet not so distinct!
The two complemented the creation and birth of man.
No gain saying here...Its simple and straight!

PastorAIO:


I believe it was created.

If you believe the spirit was created, what is the purpose of nismat? What role does it play?

PastorAIO:


Men, you can disagree as firmly as you like, as firm as a pharmacy if you like, that doesn't change what the passage is saying. And it is not my postulation it is simply what the passage says.

Nismat is not Ruach. That's all.

What Yahweh breathed into Haadam was Nismat. All living beings have Ruach so it is not something that is unique to Mankind. Therefore these your postulations on composite nature of man are just things that you are making up as you go along.

I have never said they are directly same. I have said Gods Breathe gave the Spirit life/existence through the body for all Man is created a Spirit! Birth brings the natural existence in body form.
And where did the Ruach come from if God breathe Nismat? You said all living beings have Ruach, where did it come from?

PastorAIO:


Why are you dribbling yourself like this na?

Forget my version your version KJV whatever. What does the original Hebrew say? Where and when does it use Nismat and where and when does it use Ruah?

Was the Bible translated from French? Isnt it from Hebrew?
Do I now need the Hebrew Bible to understand scriptures? Must I understand Hebrew to read Bible?
That passage explains itself and shouldnt cause much tension to understand.
Is God in natural body form? Isnt He Spirit? Ask yourself in what form was Man created? In what form do we return to God? Answer the questions to help your undertstanding.