bennyann:
I was going through the book of Matthew when I noticed "the abomination of desolation" in the 15th verse of the 24th chapter.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
Mt 24:15 NIV

And my Bible referred me to the book of Daniel:

He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. ”
Daniel 9:27 NIV


“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Daniel 11:31 NIV


“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Daniel 12:11 NIV

There are various abominations in the Bible but which one is the abomination that causes desolation?

Any theologians in the house?

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Please anyone who can help

Its deep my bro, very deep!
Its prophetic, it will happen in Jerusalem, an attempt by the Devil, False Prophets and his agents to desecrate the temple and destroy the Jews.
It will be clearly seen by all, an erected statue, a set up kingdom and reign - II Thess 2:3-4..
It comes after the Rapture when the saints are caught up with Christ to be with Him forever.
The abomination of desolation will happen during the Great Tribulation which is for 7years in 2 phases of 42months (3.5 yrs). The Jews will take back control of the temple and go back to sacrifices before the Anti Christ will take over the cities, the temples and the places of worship.
Those in Christ Jesus would not witness it! May none of us witness it in Jesus name....Amen!!
God wants all to have knowledge of the latter events that would be unfolding soon.

felixomor1:


Oh Sorry, I am not done with sharing Scripture.
That one is supreme.
You know now.

What a wise response to douce the uprising of folly!
Your response would have shut even the devil up but like we know, he is too shameless to give up and so are his e-demons...
God Bless You Brother

I would rather all Jesus' disciples, not only Pastors take this seriously.
May your Well of Wisdom never run dry!
***I relate with the opposite sex with obvious carefulness as a principle as I avoid unnecessary smiles, touch, complement, discussion, privacy e.t.c to ensure my spiritual safety (as it were)***

alexialin:
Some peeps who do not believe in God will be like what's this one saying.
But one thing I will say is this.. Since I gave my life to Jesus Christ. Have had complete peace, Joy, transformation in all areas of my life.
I no longer sleep late at night, like I use to in the past. Sometimes 3am, am awake, thinking and pondering on issues especially money issues that needs solutions. But upon all my worries, where did it land me?
Either in the hospital due to high bp or at home or at work feeling dizzy and anxious.

People usually say this life is a race, and it's true it's a race but u are not in completion with anyone. The race can only be bearable when one allows God, though Jesus christ our saviour to take control and also believe God can do it. Many Christians, many Muslims pray waitng for God to Answer our prayers but at the end some receives great answers from God while some are still waiting in despair. Thinking why is God quiet?
Why is he not answering me? Is God deaf that he can't hear my cries? Is he blind he can't see the turbulence around me? For God sake where are u when I need u most! And God is still quiet watching.
My dear brethens, have been there before and have expericed such despair several times in the past. It got to a stage I was like God does not know what he's doing. Neither does he have the power to make wealth and prosperity.
But that's where I was completely wrong!

God has the power to give us every good thing our heart desires through christ Jesus, if and only if we believe in him.
Believe is not just going to church and sings and dance from morning till night while the next day one plots or thinks evil against his fellow. Man.

Believe is understanding who. Is God first? Who. Is Jesus Christ? What do God require from us to make us worthy of his presence and attention?
Those are intense question that leads one into God's heart.
We can be good people and still. Feel God is not answering our prayers. But being good is not the criteria.

The criteria is recognizing that God is the Creator of heaven and earth with everything there in. And he gave us his Son Jesus christ as a sacrificial Lamb to die for our sins and make us worthy in his presence. Whosoever cometh through Jesus christ will have complete salvation. With no reason to fear about recession, poverty, and the rest issues that plagues our minds daily.

Are u ready to give your entire life to Christ? Are u ready to serve and worship him. Whole heartedly? Are u ready to submit to the holy spirit? Let him take over?
I have given my entire being to Christ and it's been a joyful and peaceful ride.
Make a choice today and stand by it.. If u are for christ Jesus cheesy cheesy

God bless you as u understand and receive the words of the Lord through Christ Jesus..
Pardon my grammatical errors.. English is not my language smiley

God bless

May God keep you in the Faith!
Only dogs return to their vomit and pigs, after being washed, returns to wallowing in the mire...And without are dogs! A born again xtian who returns from His Master is so described and his stripes shall be more for he denied the faith.
But 'we are not of them that draw back to perdition but believe to the saving of the soul'...Amen!!

PastorAIO:


18I said to myself concerning the sons of men, “God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts.” 19For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. 20All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. 21Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth?

Please where is the differentiation in saying that they all have the same breath and they all go to the same place.

The passage is saying that those who are differentiating the destination (ie such as yourself) are merely speculating and talking about what they do not know.

Hey bro:
See this, vs 18-20, talks about the flesh i.e the body...It goes same place to the ground, its buried and decomposes: thats how it returns to the dusts
vs 21, this now differentiates the destination of the Spirit, your version calls it breathe...Gods breathe is Spirit having physical life through the body.
Thats why your version calls it breathe, my version - KJV calls it Spirit...Mans Spirit returns to the creator for judgment while that of beast is buried in the grave.
Rem ' it is appointed unto man once to die, after this judgment' - Heb 9:27

PastorAIO:


Let us do a proper study of the passages you are drawing from.

When Yahweh 'breathed' into Haadam so that he became a living being that was called Nismat. Yes? So Yahweh breathed Nismat into Haadam.

It would be a mistake to conflate Nismat with Ruach. I believe that Ruach is what you are trying to refer to when you talk of the spirit of God and the Spirit of Man. Nismat is just the air that goes into and out of our lungs.

Let us look at Genesis 7:22
22Everything on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life died.

The actual Hebrew says: All that had the Nismat of the Ruah of Life died.

These are two totally different things. So Ruach can Nismat, ie Ruach can breathe. But Ruach is NOT Nismat.

Furthermore we learn that all living beings have this Ruach of Life so it is not something exclusive to humans.

No I firmly disagree with your postulations.
The twist is: The breathe is what makes us all living bodies.
We are all Spirit beings; it wasnt just air, it was LIFE!
The air makes it possible for the Spirit to live in bodily form..When the air is ceased, the Spirit departs from the body and returns to the creator!
Spirit of Man never dies, only the body dies...Its eternal!

Hosannah:
The Creation

“In the beginning GOD created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1) “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the Word was GOD” (John 1:1) “And the LORD GOD formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul” (Genesis 2:7) “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3) “For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; GOD himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else” (Isaiah 45:18 ) “By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth” (Psalms 33:6) “The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. (Psalms 24:1)

The Sovereignty of GOD

“Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is GOD in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else” (Deuteronomy 4:39)
“Hast thou not known? Hast thou not heard, that the everlasting GOD, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? There is no searching of his understanding” (Isaiah 40:28 )
“Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our GOD, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:7-9)
“Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created” (Revelation 4:11)

JESUS CHRIST is the Son of GOD

“For GOD so Loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For GOD sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of GOD” (John 3:16-18) “Whosoever shall confess that JESUS is the Son of GOD, GOD dwelleth in him, and he in GOD” (1 John 4:15) “For there is one GOD, and one mediator between GOD and men, the man CHRIST JESUS; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time” (1 Timothy 2:5-6) “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible GOD, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: All things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist” (Colossians 1:14-17) “This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:11-12)

The Last Days

“That ye be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the LORD and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation” (2 Peter 3:2-4 ) “The LORD is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9) “For the LORD himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in CHRIST shall rise first:” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8 )

JESUS CHRIST is our LORD and Saviour

"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23) “But GOD commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8 ) “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the LORD;” (Acts 3:19)
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth The LORD JESUS, and shalt believe in thine heart that GOD hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation” (Romans 10:9-10) “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear GOD, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man” (Ecclesiastes 12:13) “That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our LORD JESUS CHRIST: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the KING of kings, and the LORD of lords;” (1 Timothy 6:14-15)
“I am ALPHA and OMEGA, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:8 )


"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding" (Proverbs 9:10)
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth forever" (Psalm 111:10)


To know more, read the Word of GOD daily in the HOLY BIBLE (king James version)

Good Thread. Keep Up the Good Work.
Pls dont mind the scornful, proud, arrogant, rebellious, God haters...They boast great things they cant do neither can they attain.
Their fathers tried so hard to keep the Gospel at bay but all their evil intents fell to the furtherance of the Gospel!
If they rise against us, in vain they do for the gates of hell cant prevail against the Church. Amen!

SAY NO TO DIVORCE...God hates it!

SEX in marriage is sacred and has its bounds!
Dont be ruled by lust, curtail it lest it embarasses you when your wife is away for 30mins...
That lady is your maid, sister in law or wife's friend; dont touch her lest you fall into shame.
Be a Man: A Man has Will! Dont do it!

Parental Training is more than finance, its ATTENTION.
Real Parents give attention to their children...This is investment!
If you would invest money, go to the bank...If you would invest attention and time, do that in your child!!

Say no to sexual immorality!
Dont marry on credit, pay your bride price!! If you dont pay and co habiting, it isnt Gods perfect will....See your woman's family asap and settle them.
I pray God will provide for all of us all we need to Marry Right!
This is God's Will!!

The end of the hypocrite will be bitter and worse than the Wicked.
In pains in Hell you will hear the unbelievers affirm 'but I thought you were a xtian, do xtians also come here'
Please lets examine ourselves, the day is far spent and now is our salvation nearer than when we believed..No amount of labour, xtian service, prayer shall save any man without Christ.
Its a call to re-examination and re-assessment, lets judge ourselves before the time lest we be found wanting before God and all our labour be in vain.
May Grace carry us all through the journey. Amen!

PastorAIO:


That is not what the passage says!!!

It's a question that is actually an admission of ignorance.

No I disagree with you.
Its rhetorical...Read from verse 18-22.
He talked about the certainty and equality of the end of both Man and Beast in death!
vs 21, he differentiates the conditions of after life for both Man and Beast: in particular he mentions the destination and end of both spirits. vs 19-20, he states the end and destination of both flesh/bodies ending in the dust.

PastorAIO:

Why do you say so? What are your reasons?

God's breathe of life is the Spirit in Man. God is emotional and God is Spirit so also is Man.

Pastafarian:

your arguments are always circular

I hope you aint seeking attention! Pls step aside!! Your FSM is for you and you alone...Ive been seeing you around.

randomperson:

Geez... Can't you reason? A brilliant doctor with potential leaves his developed country and moves to a small community in Namibia to help them with TB... which fame does he have? If he stayed back in his country, he could become a rich doctor with a lot of patients and be famous... But he prefers to help a small community that no one pays attention to... So he left fame at home to go and look for smaller fame...
Guy... You no try at all

Im sorry but you dont reason like an intelligent man!
You used 'could' - doesnt that infer some possibility.
So tell me the renowned doctors and others that were famous before they came to Africa...Wasnt it the African Project the cause of their fame?
Why has Ben Carson and the others not come down to Africa to help also and lets see how far they go?
Tell me just one renowned man that came to Africa to help...If you cant produce one, you have failed!

Amhappy:
Catholic Study Bible

John 3:14-21

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of man be lifted up,
15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life."
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
18 He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does what is true comes to the light, that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been wrought in God.

I will remain with this sweet abuser.

I remain with Him too!
Did the devil hear that? He has failed!
We aint deterred, we remain with Him!!

randomperson:

Another stupid comment!
Where a person creates a system that is riddled with injustice, people challenge it until it's changed... There was a time slavery was allowed in the rules, it was challenged until it was abolished...
But your god who claims to be all loving and all knowing and intelligent, creates a system with the kinds of flaws? That is a logical impossibility

Your case is the popular 'my people perish for lack of knowledge'
God created a system and put His image being - man in it to have dominion..Man corrupted himself and God redeemed man back upon mans choice.
The system had no flaws, man corrupted it!
Take this: God didnt create the earth to have dominion, He has Heaven as His dwelling place...He created earth for man's dominion...The inconsistent result you see is Man's effort without God!
God only has placed laws and principles upon which man would have dominion...You go beyond it, He shows up!
If you want to enjoy the earth, search the scriptures, the secret is there!
If I asked you, you sure will blame God for abortions, drug addictions, murder..
Slavery wasnt abolished, it only evolved!
What is slavery? You are always a slave without Christ! Freedom is in Christ!

PastorAIO:


I would ask 'where is the life' if you told me that 'the life is enveloped in the body'? If you can envelope something then it has a location.

So If I get you straight:

The Life of a man is the Spirit
The Existence is the Spirit
Spirit is emotional
Spirit is enveloped in the body.




I see emotions as a very human trait, not a divine trait.

Emotions is both human and divine!
Its a Spirit xtic - thats the real man, the body only plays out the script of the spirit.

PastorAIO:
What do you think of Ecclesiastes 3:21?

Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?

Beuautiful!
The Man, Spirit returns to God while the Spirit of the animal is buried with the body.
The mans body decays while the Spirit returns to God!
At death, the righteous man spirit goes into paradise while the unrighteous spirit goes to hell. That of the animal is buried with the body and remains there.

randomperson:

You're not knowledgeable. How many people with doctors without borders are popular, or how many red Cross Members are famous...
I know the only reason you try to be good is that you're scared of hell but there are people who are actually good people, that don't need any motivation to do good... People infinitely better than you are

Oh you are so limited in thinking!
So fame means you are known around the world?
Didnt you see a lady's post who has been in the US from birth and never knew Pastor Adeboye, does that mean Pst Adeboye isnt famous?
Fame is a state of being known by many people not all people!!

randomperson:

Stop being ridiculous... People who have given their lives to Jesus are the Christians...
If that is the criterion that means a boko haram terrorist that has killed, maimed and raped thousands of people will go to heaven if he accepted Jesus on his death bed while a person who has dedicated his life to helping people will go to hell...
Which kind of a sick, sadistic god creates that kind of system. Even I myself would have created a system many times better than that

See where you sham intelligence has failed and folly has risen beyond doubts.
He that starts a race and falls at the finishing line not crossing it and the snail runner who crosses the finished line, who wins the race/prize?
Every system is ruled by laws! Dont you know this?
Even in football, 200k petitions for PSG/Barca rematch but Uefa isnt going to oblige..There are rules, emotion has no roles..
Emotions and pity has no role!!
God forgives when you ask for it, repent and accept Jesus...Its Grace!
If you dont, even if you donate all your life, you are inches from Hell.
But thats not even you, I dont see any good you have even done, Jesus you dont want, your case is different!

randomperson:

It bothers me that Christians who claim to be the most moral are so morally bankrupt to be celebrating an idea that most people- whether good or bad are going to be burning for eternity... If as a Christian, you're satisfied with this and have never asked yourself the justice of it, then you're morality bankrupt...
And please there are people that are naturally good and altruistic without motivation.... Doctors that dedicate their lives to fighting TB and other diseases in poor African countries, people who give all their money to charity. These are good people...
I know that Christians try to be good because their religion requires them to be, so the idea of a person that is good without any selfish interest is foreign to you...

Are you still learning?
Isnt fame some incentive for doing good?
No one does good without motives for reward.
Ask our Oga that though we access nairaland for free, yet he has rewards as evidenced in fat bank accts.
Dont argue against facts and the obvious lest your folly become clear like crystals!

akintom:

Don't you know FSM?

A man at the mountain top wouldnt come to the valley to know whats there! The height is his advantage! He sees and knows all!! Thats me!!!!

Goahead:
Nairaland owner is a coward

Pls lets thread softly with Seun.
There should be a channel for complaints to Him.
I believe nairaland is for all and such prejudices can be addressed if the complaints is properly channeled
However, xtianity is used to oppositions, its been tested and here we are still standing!
Oppositions make us relevant! Let them keep coming!!

cc: my dear friend luvmijeje

randomperson:

Judgment?? So you believe only Christians will go to heaven while every other person will go to hell, irrespective of whether they are good people or not.

So you believe only those that participate at the olympics and enter into the race fulfilling the conditions of the game will win the gold medal?
My dear, there is no salvation in any other, there is no other name given amongst men whereby we must be saved...
There will no Xtian, Muslim, atheist, agnostic, idol worshipper in Heaven...Only those that have accepted Jesus and have been washed by the blood, those are the redeemed, only these will make Heaven at last!
Settle with Him and ecsape the damnation to come!

akintom:


You're just wasting your life with Yahweh. FSM can offer you the best. Only if you accept FSM as your creator. In FSM Kingdom, there shall be pleasure forever.

akintom, my Friend.
You don leave atheism, now its FSM.
Keep hopping around till you hop back to Him.
You will surely come around some day!

adepeter26:

only? nothing more?

For the unrighteous, unbelieving, perverts, corrupt, God haters, wicked, sinful, yes, nothing more...Judgment! Judgment!!
For the believing, chosen, forgiven, washed, saved, holy, there is more...Death is a transport to a Glorious Eternity of Worship, Reign, Awards, Glory, Rest!
Time will fail to recount those Glorious Experiences!
They are too precious pearls to cast before swines!!

PastorAIO:


What about uncreated man? Is he a spirit too? Like Jesus, begotten not made.

If the spirit is enveloped in the body, meaning that there spirit is contained within the body, then in what part of the body can we find the spirit?

If the soul is the mental capacity then what about the emotions? Is that spirit or soul or body?

If the spirit communicates with God then what does the mental capacity do?

Obviously I don't agree with this idea of a composite nature, but I am interested in why you are convinced of it.

The Life of a Man is the Spirit. Would you ask where is the Life?
Your existence is Spirit. At death, the Spirit is separated from the body on a final journey back to the creator as it were.
The Spirit is emotional not the soul! Isnt God emotional?
The soul is the reasoning faculty, its the choice you always have to make, your meditation happens in the soul.

randomperson:


You people really do make me laugh! So because I don't rely on a sky daddy for hand me downs, it means I have no hope? I have hope but not the false hope that your people hold on to and does nothing for you...
And yes, I know nothing about what's next after death but do you? Tell me what you know about what's next after death

So whats your hope?
After death, its judgment!

randomperson:

Exactly my point... Things are not necessarily better for me. If they are, it's not because I don't believe in god. Atheism or deism or whatever don't promise you riches, good health or protection. Christianity does but despite the promises of God littered all over the bible, Christians don't have it better... They suffer the same things others do... Therefore, their god was either lying to them or he doesn't exist at all...

So in this life and in that to come, you have no hope!
What a life you live, for nothing.
I live for God and I see the results on earth with a hope for the future!
Now not everyone who claims God or prays is of Him. God knows His own. There are principles to living in dominion, it doesnt drop from Heaven, its hid in Scriptures!
You know nothing about what next after death, so dont argue. You dont argue what you have no clue of.

randomperson:

Lolz... That's the lie they tell you people. Giving you false hope. That's how some Christians waited and waited till their old age and nothing significant happened in their lives... Christians keep believing it will be well not knowing some other Christians have died without things ever getting better for them.

So lets break it down here: Is it really better for you than most of us here? What are your yardsticks?
You, I mean you, what do you have to show for not believing God?