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bixton:
Maybe he didn't transmit his message well enough.



Let's assume he is a true gospel artists.

Is he also not a minister of the Lord?

What is the difference between the Pastor and the Choir brother/sister......Are they not all ministers unto the Lord?


In the days of the Prophets, those who were singers, those who played cymbals and other instruments were they not all ministers to the Lord and were they not partakers in the foods/finance that were stored in the store houses......?

You are mixing things up. Let's discuss it financially since you want to go that route.

Charisteristics of Ministers:

1. Anyone who volunteers their time for the gospel. Can be anyone. Pastor, singers, choristers, deacons, deaconess, bishops, elders, evangelists, apostles, etc. Anyone can be including Tim Godfrey. But is his mistratioms acceptable in God's presence. Thats for God to answer.

2. Those from the tribes of Levi worked full time in a particular synagogue. Part-time workers exist as well, and the majority of them are unpaid. Only Levites are fed and can claim to be paid. But you must be in that synagogue. If you compare it to today, ministers are expected to collect salaries rather than charging for each church they visit. The salary is for feeding them. Take a salary from an organization. Period

3. Singers among them sang Psalms. Authors are: Moses, David, Solomon, Sons of Korah, Aseph, Ezra, etc. Did they collect money from users of their songs, as they would with copyright? Tim Godfrey goes further to stop users on Twitter by asking X to ban the accounts if they don't pay him for using his song. Would you be able to use Psalms if you had to pay copyright?

I could go on and on about how wrong this guy is. And it is not Christlike. Do you see my point, or do you want me to continue? This man for Christ's sake is making millions with his YouTube channels. He wants to be paid by all churches where he goes to minister. That's getting paid for the sake of the gospel as against getting a salary. He isn't contented with his YouTube. Then imagine Tim saying, "Do not use my songs in your Twitter posts." Pay me first. Oh. Before I use his song to minister on Twitter, he needs to collect money. Think about it na. It means you are saying that any minister who preaches must first collect money. It is wrong.

There is a difference between demanding money before ministering and collecting an offering for you after ministering. The two are different. The latter is an effort to assist you with your expenses. If you are a minister and someone does not pay you and you genuinely cannot afford it, simply decline the invitation the next time without explaining why. It's wisdom. But you go ahead and demand that...pay me so and so and so because I need to pay my employees...mehn...that is rubbish. Simply decline the invitation if you know it will put you into debt. But when God tells you to go there, whether you have the money or not, you must go. And this is where he asks you to trust him for divine provision.

Iamzik:
The pastors also charge to preach so musicians quickly learnt from them

Yes, I know some do it. Not all. All the pastors who do such do not know Christ intimately again. The funny thing is that the Holy Christ may even still use them....that's the funny issue. But in my experience, the contract expires when their replacements launched out. The time of "grace" don sail across. Grace can be long. And when the person repents, mercy will erase the consequences like nothing happened.

So, they aren't doing the will of Christ selling the gospel. It isn't Christlike.

Tinhbu must have secured the friendship of people who can deliver Rivers to him. He must have had people who can defeat Ameachi before replacing Wike. And it is very possible he has such people.

Wike is useless without Tinubu's backing and that is his political final destination. The only reason Tinubu has him is for Rivers. And if others can deliver Rivers, he is finished. This is the truth.

People say that he will fight Tinubu. How? Struggle APC ticket with him? The only thing he has is Rivers. That's all. And I do not think he is the only person who wants to deliver Rivers to him. Last election, Tinubu had nobody and had to partner with him. But this time, I am sure many are ready to get the job for him. Fubara himself will jump at the offer if he hears that Wike is gonna be out.

realmarkanthony:
Well he may be right though and before anyone goes on to bash him, ask yourself when you are shouting and dancing in church on sundays and when you have the likes of big artists dropping songs for you that you love, those were not gotten through THANK YOU FOR COMING STATEMENTS.. a lot is being paid for behind the scenes so don’t come and say oh he should do it for free, studio sessions are not free, producers are not free, backups are not free, instruments in your church were not gotten for free from the sellers

The question is that is he ministering to get paid? Or to fulfill Jesus' command to give it out freely? What is the main motive behind ministering in churches?

Tim Godfrey is worse. As in, I strongly believe he doesn't know Christ. Why? Even you use his music on Twitter, he reports you and gets your account banned. He wants users on Twitter to pay him for copyright too. That is the highest nonsense I can ever imagine. Then, why sing for Christ? The money he is making on YouTube and other platforms aren't enough for him that he is blocking people who want to spread tje gospel through his music because he thinks he is the owner. Wow.

If he is the owner of his talent, why then say ge gives it all to Christ? Why say he is ministering?

Think about it.

No one who knows Christ closely and is walking in divine provision will ever collect money to minister in churches. As in collect money? No way. Ask any spirit filled person. He can defend himself and be right using this world's standard and list all his expenses. He can be right. But is he right with Christ? He doesn't still understand divine provison and walking with Christ. He isn't a Christian. He is a circular entertainer.

Monetizing the gospel of Chriat is wrong.

Christ Oyakhilome started paying them heavy fee cos he thought he was encouraging them, not knowing that he was making them businessmen of the gospel. Lol. It was too late before he realised it.

As a musician, if his talent is only making music, he can find other ways to monetize his gift like teaching, recording, or even use digital means. So, does it mean that all the money he has been making on digital platforms isn't enough for him that he wants to collect money while ministering on God's altars? He wants to collect money while the pastor preaching should give it out freely? So, why do they use the word "ministering" when they still want to collect money?

Well, I think he doesn't really know Christ. You cannot know Christ and charge money while ministering for Him. It is not possible.

JackDaAlienz:
This Noble prize mehnnn

How can someone make award and say it is the highest award on earth??

White people just dey use the whole world catch cruise.

If an African create award and say it is the highest award on earth.

White people go laugh am mock am join.
The same way Jamie carrigher mock AFCON
But call Europa one of the best in world

When black nations become rich, their voices will be heard too. But as long as their governements keeps going to them for aids, black nations will be nothing.

Orange fatty bom bom go soon go wild.

skywalker240:
Suadis have a secret motive i believe, you might be shocked they're the ones actually sponsoring and bankrolling these Islamic terrorists around the world both Shia and sunni

Anything and everything is possible. I have thought about it too. The anti-Christ is likely going to come from there. Everyone is falling in love with Saudi today. Hmmm!

ajalawole:
who will. Even Egypt. Egypt mind his own business they know how much the make from tourist yearly. Heard yesterday all the leader's in the middle East and Trump will fly into Egypt by weekend to sign paper on take over of Gaza. We pray once those hamas leave gaze they don't find there way to Africa.

Personally, I check middle east crisis with Bible since it's the main book with prophecies about the end time, and many things are checking out correctly. Going by this, I do not expect that there will ever be peace in the middle east soon. The only prophetical book getting it right so far says that the only person who will bring peace of the middle east crisis is the anti-Christ.

So, I do not see the Hamas leaving Gaza finally. Trump and Natenyahu are both going to compromise and this war will continue. There may likely be a temporary peace which I am sure will not last 3 months before issues start coming up again. Though, this war may stop temporarily, but the fight continues.

So, Hamas aren't coming to Africa on my opinion. Na fight to die to claim Jerusalem. Yeah, Gaza may have peace...but Jerusalem is still there. Hamas isn't going anywhere soon. Dem go die there.

farouk2much:
The problem is are we gonna buy it cheaper??

Quit the cheap mentality. The right word is "affordability". We should be able to afford it.

The price should be the same price it is sold in other African nations so as to discourage smuggling it out. No subsidy.

Govt should just improve our economy. That's all. If it's N2,000, we should mostly be able to afford it easily.

Cash is King.

When money talks, you listen.

I wish Nigeria become rich so we take charge of Africa. We suppose to be flying to Sudan, Liberia, and other places as the African big boy. Gone are the days we lead ECOMOG well. Those glorious days are almost getting over.

I am still watching Saudi Arabia. That nation. Hmmm. They are silently penetrating the world economy. They don't just involve themselves in the middle east crisis anyhow, and many have seen them as the easy going one despite the head quarters of Islam is there. Interesting. Just see how they are bending the strict Islamic rules to be accepted. Saudi......hmmm...

And Saudi may likely become a nuclear armed nation very soon. Mark my words. They know what they are doing. They are even penetrating the UK seriously....buying football clubs in the UK. They know what they are doing.

Nigeria....wake up!!!

psalmsmiles:
YOU CLEARLY ARE AN IGNORAMUS ON THE SUBJECT MATTER. FRAUD MONEY PAYS MORE THAN MOST LEGIT INCOMES EVER WILL. IT'S BASIC MATHS, MAN.

You have just described yourself.

Change your friends so the good ones can show you where to divert your skills and go legit. Your eyes go clear.

What an interesting discovery.

What I have noticed is that scientists have learned a big lesson not to go breaking things into pieces or introducing foreign substances without knowing the structure. They always want to understand the holistic approach first, and it makes sense to me. This is why GMO seeds failed, but a better modification is used.

Guess what? Anytime they understand the structure, the word "organic" is now used. It makes so much much. When you understand the structure amd framework, you can modify, edit, delete, paste, and do whatsoever without any negative consequences. And if there are, you can see the structure ahead and you prepare towards it.

What a discovery? This is huge. The climate, agriculture, blue ocean, etc that are all in trouble can be easily saved. And I was just addressing some people here that I do not believe Lagos is going to go under water with the way we are advancing. Terrific! Absolutely incredible.

But beware....at the end time, knowledge will increase. Mehn! The rate we are going is super high. Is the end extremely close?

Naija wicked small... You wan render them stateless? They wan hook them for Naija for 10 years after their deportation.

The only area we have not doing well is to eradicate corruption. Politicians are fast to punish others, but they are the worst when it comes to committing crimes.

Agriculture is still an area we haven't cracked in Nigeria. We moved forward with Obafemi Awolowo, but we lost it when we discovered oil. It is well.

Lagos go soon understand say ndigbo mean business with annexing Lagos.

And let me be clear, when they eventually get Biafra Republic, Lagos is still going to be their commercial state.

Omoh....see eh...obsession is a disease.

But motivation is healthy.

Progress in Lagos should motivate others to build theirs, but na obsession we dey see.

World Bank dey use style warn Tinubu not to do "abracadabra" with the figure. E don reach dem say he wan use ways statistics. Lord...save us from Nigeria.

Nigeria needs a rebranding. Lol. It's better Nigeria splits.....so that each region can start afresh. And we can give away the so called giant of Africa.

Under normal circumstances, the public should prevail on Tinubu to dismiss Umahi, but who will lead the protest? I suppose the only weapon Nigerians are still comfortable with is exposing certificate forgery. Only Tinubu has survived this so far smartly.

Humility and accountability should be enforced in public service.

georgeakins:
That you can commit crimes is not an indication of smartness.

This is how you encourage your people to do all sorts of things that tarnish the country's image.

I suppose you are the type to sleep deeply. You should wash your face thoroughly and read the posts on which you commented this morning.

It is very interesting to see how smart people do meaningless things that don't make sense.

Since this guy has access to apps and the skill to scam, he sure could have used the skill and tools legitimately. Many of these boys that involve themselves in these scams can easily go into marketing, branding, and even data analytics. Many of them can even be content makers. The same set of skills they use to scam are what they need to go legit na. So, what is the issue here? And legit makes huge cash, and even more than illegal activities.

Gone are the days such skills bring reward via cheating, but these days, there are many legit ways to monetize them. I still don't understand why they prefer scamming. Seriously....I don't get it.

If you to become a politician, what is so hard in running back to school to get a legit certificate even you.are 65 years? There are so many easy courses and even online these days na. Why do people prefer forgery?

The Bible is solid mehn. When it says that the anti Christ would bring peace to the middle east crisis, it is wow! As in wow! Those earlier before us can't even imagine the kind of mess in the middle east in their days. Now, see this again.

Make Trump dey play. He will not receive a Nobel Peace Prize because he will not resolve any issues there. Only the anti Christ will bring peace to the middle east. This war may end, but there will be more problems and crises to come. No peace in the middle east from what I am seeing.

Y'all better start reading history and check your bible for leads.

Goodluck!

Though, I know Obi is a low grade leader, but something in me just wished he became the president so that his hypocrite could be shown. But it is better that he doesnt near Aso Rock. Lol This is a governor who was so wicked during his reign. Gush! But cos he wants to be the president, he is forming Mr. Empathy.

Obi said govt should show empathy in Lagos where people build on drainage system cause harvoc. Oh! When others are suffering flooding, govt should show empathy on those who caused it. They should show empathy on people who deliberately disobeyed the law. Damn. What kind of human is this man?

If this Obi wasn't living in Lagos, I can still say...oh...ok. but this man lives in Lagos na. What kind of human is this man? Well, he ruled his home and can't even live there after his reign, but had to run to Lagos. This says a lot about him.

Thank God Obi was a governor. Ah! As in Thank God. Mehn! Obi is a bomb Nigeria needs to keep dodging.

Obi won't do himself any good running from one party to the other because politicians who do so lose at the end. All our presidents so far struggle it out in their parties, and I wobt ve surprised that Jonathan will be the one to solve the so called Wike's trouble everyone ran away from. Atiku always rub away, and he has been a loser ever since he ran away from OBJ. Obi too is following the same pattern instead of him to solve the "Abure problem" too and hold Labor party high. They will only make Tinubu and Wike extremely strong in Nigeria such that the next northern president will be their pet. And this is what is hung to happen most likely.

So, how does Pastor Adeboye know that the people of other nations don't know how to entertain themselves and smile in the face of problems since he only visited them and don't know them very well? We like praising ourselves too much when we should find solutions to our challenges.

Cromagnon:
So who will now choose inec chairman
Holy Spirit ba?

Illiteracy is a disease.

One week. I mean just only one week, and I have to do something. Hmmmm...

Here are Nigerian diseases:
1. Corruption
2. Over population loading
3. Religious intolerance
4. Tribal intolerance
5. And other issues.

The top on the list is corruption; hence, that is what I would do, but one week is too short. So, I would think of something that I could do which could have a positive impact on reducing corruption.

Ok. I know what I would do. I would pass the law to take INEC chairman nomination from the president and make the electoral system seamless and transparent such that politicians cannot rig elections again. Period.

You guys can start figuring out what this would do to Nigeria.

Cheers!

We will not be able to move forward unless we find a way to eliminate rigging from the election process. The types of leaders elected are not simply good. The standard is exceedingly low.

Variables:
We should be entering Britain as we like if not the greediness of the Briton

No, the British should want to enter Nigeria without visas, and we kick them away saying we don't want them. Meaning, we should have grown our economy, reduce the rate population is increasing, and become a nuclear power nation too. And above all, keep tje rest of West Africa growing too.